Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

2018-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl 
On Wed Mar 21 2018 17:51:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Miss Lizzy
 wrote:
> I'm about to get a new laptop as my current one is not in compliance with the 
> new General Data Protection Regulations (it's just over 10years old with 
> Windows 7 so no longer supported by Microsoft regarding patches).

Eh? Not sure where you got that information, but Windows 7 isn't end of
life until January 20th 2020, so you still get security updates until
then (another 1.75 years).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

2018-03-22 Thread jorge Rodríguez 

Hi Lizzy:

    I use GNU / Linux and happy with it...but if you want to keep 
windows there is a possible to install both operative system together in 
your laptop. It would be used Dual Boot process with an .iso file of 
Ubuntu for example.


Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El 22/03/2018 a las 15:52, Luca Daghino @ Libero escribió:

Il 21/03/2018 22:51, Miss Lizzy ha scritto:
I'm about to get a new laptop as my current one is not in compliance 
with the new General Data Protection Regulations (it's just over 
10years old with Windows 7 so no longer supported by Microsoft 
regarding patches).


It has been suggested I use LibreOffice rather than Microsoft Word, 
Excel etc.


I've read a few articles on Libre, but what I would like to know is - 
you say Libre is an 'open
Source software', and input/ patches is by anyone, that's the way 
I've digested it. So my concern is, do you actually mean 'anyone' or 
are the patches development by your own team of software developers?  
You can obviously see where I'm going with this.


I also noticed the software package name has changed over a 
relatively short period of time. Is it just in name or do folk have 
to keep down loading new packages?


Would appreciate your comments as soon as you can please.

Kind regards
Liz D'arville

Sent from my iPad


My comment is to keep your laptop and install linux on it... :)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

2018-03-22 Thread Luca Daghino @ Libero 

Il 21/03/2018 22:51, Miss Lizzy ha scritto:

I'm about to get a new laptop as my current one is not in compliance with the 
new General Data Protection Regulations (it's just over 10years old with 
Windows 7 so no longer supported by Microsoft regarding patches).

It has been suggested I use LibreOffice rather than Microsoft Word, Excel etc.

I've read a few articles on Libre, but what I would like to know is - you say 
Libre is an 'open
Source software', and input/ patches is by anyone, that's the way I've digested 
it. So my concern is, do you actually mean 'anyone' or are the patches 
development by your own team of software developers?  You can obviously see 
where I'm going with this.

I also noticed the software package name has changed over a relatively short 
period of time. Is it just in name or do folk have to keep down loading new 
packages?

Would appreciate your comments as soon as you can please.

Kind regards
Liz D'arville

Sent from my iPad


My comment is to keep your laptop and install linux on it... :)

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[libreoffice-users] query re. LO 5 ...

2018-03-22 Thread anne-ology 
   ... this new version seems to be lacking a great feature which I
enjoyed in the LO 3;
 back then, & on the MsFt-compatible computer, I was able to
make PPs, saving each version then I would place each of these together to
save only the best parts.

   But this feature seems to be lacking now - if it still exists, could
someone please let me know how to access. Yes, I can see how to insert
images, ... but not how to insert PPs.

   Maybe changing to a Mac wasn't a good idea after all; I sure wish I
knew how to get it to quit attempting to change the spelling of words & how
it only pretends to remember passwords part of the time.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

2018-03-22 Thread Philip Jackson 
On 22/03/18 08:12, toki wrote:
> That is because LibO practices release early, and release often:
> * Every six months, a minor number release is made;
> * Every six weeks, a point release is made;
> * Roughly every fortnight, a release candidate/beta version is made
> available;
> * Every week, a weekly build is made available. This is for the brave;
> * Every night, a nightly build is attempted. This is for those who live
> on the wild side, doing dangerous things;
> 
> Two stable versions of LibO are available:
> * Still, which is the more stable, and bug free version;
> * Fresh, which has all the new bells and whistles, with their associated
> bugs;

A great and useful summary - thanks.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

2018-03-22 Thread Virgil Arrington 


On 03/22/2018 03:12 AM, toki wrote:
>
> The most stable option, is to install the Still release, every six months.
>
> jonathon
>
>
And, you don't even have to do that. I'm still using LibreOffice 5.1.6 
on my computer, and it works fine. I'll upgrade when I need some 
functionality or bug fix that isn't in 5.1.6. When that day comes, I'll 
follow Jonathon's advice and use the most stable Still release.

Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

2018-03-22 Thread zahra a 
hello.
yes, the libreoffice is one of the opensource programs which anyone
can submit patches and new codes.
i have problem of supporting diacritics for arabic and persian,
developers told me if you know someone who can help you for resolving
your issue, tell to join us and fix the issue.

On 3/22/18, Gilles Gravier  wrote:
> Liz,
>
> 2018-03-22 5:51 GMT+08:00 Miss Lizzy :
>
>> I'm about to get a new laptop as my current one is not in compliance with
>> the new General Data Protection Regulations (it's just over 10years old
>> with Windows 7 so no longer supported by Microsoft regarding patches).
>>
>> It has been suggested I use LibreOffice rather than Microsoft Word, Excel
>> etc.
>>
>> I've read a few articles on Libre, but what I would like to know is - you
>> say Libre is an 'open
>> Source software', and input/ patches is by anyone, that's the way I've
>> digested it. So my concern is, do you actually mean 'anyone' or are the
>> patches development by your own team of software developers?  You can
>> obviously see where I'm going with this.
>>
>> I also noticed the software package name has changed over a relatively
>> short period of time. Is it just in name or do folk have to keep down
>> loading new packages?
>>
>> Would appreciate your comments as soon as you can please.
>>
>>
> A (good) open source project is managed the same way as a good proprietary
> software. In the sense that when new code is written, it gets reviews
> according to predefined project governance, and then accepted or rejected.
> That's the difference (in the open source world) between the contributors
> (people who write code, patches, or even documentations, or participate in
> driving community activities...) and the committers, who are the people who
> can accept new contributions into the code base.
>
> So when somebody writes a patch for a bug (you can, too, if you want, and
> have the skills) and contributes it, it gets fully reviewed and (possibly)
> approved and committed.
>
> This happens for patches correcting issues, as well as all new code
> bringing new functionality. This ensures that the project also keeps on
> track with what the project strategy team is looking for.
>
> Does it mean that no bugs get missed? No, of course. But that's the same as
> for any software project. What it means is that there is the same type of
> quality control mechanisms as for proprietary projects... but many many
> more eyes looking at the code for bugs. So in average (COVERITY 2014
> report) open source code tends to actually be higher quality than
> proprietary with a density of 0.61 bugs per thousand lines of code for open
> source versus 0.76 for proprietary (page 6 of the report available here :
> http://go.coverity.com/rs/157-LQW-289/images/2014-Coverity-Scan-Report.pdf).
>
> Note that in the paragraphs above, I didn't mention what project this
> applies to. It's because it applies to ALL software projects (open source
> or not, LibreOffice or others). :)
>
> Enjoy the great software LibreOffice from The Documentation Foundation !
>
> Gilles
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

2018-03-22 Thread Gilles Gravier 
Liz,

2018-03-22 5:51 GMT+08:00 Miss Lizzy :

> I'm about to get a new laptop as my current one is not in compliance with
> the new General Data Protection Regulations (it's just over 10years old
> with Windows 7 so no longer supported by Microsoft regarding patches).
>
> It has been suggested I use LibreOffice rather than Microsoft Word, Excel
> etc.
>
> I've read a few articles on Libre, but what I would like to know is - you
> say Libre is an 'open
> Source software', and input/ patches is by anyone, that's the way I've
> digested it. So my concern is, do you actually mean 'anyone' or are the
> patches development by your own team of software developers?  You can
> obviously see where I'm going with this.
>
> I also noticed the software package name has changed over a relatively
> short period of time. Is it just in name or do folk have to keep down
> loading new packages?
>
> Would appreciate your comments as soon as you can please.
>
>
A (good) open source project is managed the same way as a good proprietary
software. In the sense that when new code is written, it gets reviews
according to predefined project governance, and then accepted or rejected.
That's the difference (in the open source world) between the contributors
(people who write code, patches, or even documentations, or participate in
driving community activities...) and the committers, who are the people who
can accept new contributions into the code base.

So when somebody writes a patch for a bug (you can, too, if you want, and
have the skills) and contributes it, it gets fully reviewed and (possibly)
approved and committed.

This happens for patches correcting issues, as well as all new code
bringing new functionality. This ensures that the project also keeps on
track with what the project strategy team is looking for.

Does it mean that no bugs get missed? No, of course. But that's the same as
for any software project. What it means is that there is the same type of
quality control mechanisms as for proprietary projects... but many many
more eyes looking at the code for bugs. So in average (COVERITY 2014
report) open source code tends to actually be higher quality than
proprietary with a density of 0.61 bugs per thousand lines of code for open
source versus 0.76 for proprietary (page 6 of the report available here :
http://go.coverity.com/rs/157-LQW-289/images/2014-Coverity-Scan-Report.pdf).

Note that in the paragraphs above, I didn't mention what project this
applies to. It's because it applies to ALL software projects (open source
or not, LibreOffice or others). :)

Enjoy the great software LibreOffice from The Documentation Foundation !

Gilles
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice - patches

2018-03-22 Thread toki 
On 03/21/2018 09:51 PM, Miss Lizzy wrote:

>do you actually mean 'anyone' or are the patches development by your own team 
>of software developers? 

Anybody can submit patches.  However, not all patches are accepted.

> I also noticed the software package name has changed over a relatively short 
> period of time.

That is because LibO practices release early, and release often:
* Every six months, a minor number release is made;
* Every six weeks, a point release is made;
* Roughly every fortnight, a release candidate/beta version is made
available;
* Every week, a weekly build is made available. This is for the brave;
* Every night, a nightly build is attempted. This is for those who live
on the wild side, doing dangerous things;

Two stable versions of LibO are available:
* Still, which is the more stable, and bug free version;
* Fresh, which has all the new bells and whistles, with their associated
bugs;

> Is it just in name or do folk have to keep down loading new packages?

Whilst the point releases are usually bug fixes, they do occasionally
include additional functionality, and capabilities.

The most stable option, is to install the Still release, every six months.

jonathon


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