Re: [libreoffice-users] Customizing styles and keeping them in templates in Writer?

2023-11-24 Thread Eric Beversluis
I was wondering about the same thing Philip mentions, but then I saw 
that when I opened a new document, all the custom styles where there. 
But then I realized that it's probably because there is already some 
dummy text in my template which appears in a new document--it helps me 
remember what's in the template. Without the dummy text, clicking on 
"All Styles" or "Custom Styles" is likely necessary.


I hope that works for bunk3m.

On 11/24/23 17:57, Philip Jackson wrote:
I've made my own templates for various categories of documents and 
equipped each template with its own sets of customised styles. They 
work fine. I did the set up some years ago and don't recall exactly 
what steps were required but I don't recall any particular difficulty.


I do remember that when I first used one of my templates, my 
customised styles didn't show up but that was a simple oversight on my 
part. In the sidebar panel (Ctrl-F5) which displays the styles, I had 
never noticed the selector at the bottom which by default shows 
'Applied styles'.


With a new blank document, there'll only be a default paragraph style 
displayed. When I clicked on the drop-down list and selected 'All 
styles', there were all my custom styles.


I don't suppose you've made the same oversight?

Philip

On 24/11/2023 20:22, bunk3m wrote:

Hello,

I'm using LO 7.6.2.1 on Win11 and Mac.

I can't get the styles to work and stick in templates.  I've used styles
and templates in MS Word for 30 years before switching to LO in the 
past 5
years.  I've read the help, Writer User Guide and Designing with LO 
2nd Ed.
and apparently have missed something conceptual as I can't get the 
styles

to stick within the templates.

I've created the styles in blank documents and then saved the 
document as a
template.I expected that the paragraph, font, list formats & styles 
that I
created would be saved in the template and reusable in subsequent 
documents

created from the templates.

But when I use the templates to create a new document, none of the
previously created styles are there.  I find I have to recreate all the
styles again as they aren't anywhere within the template.  So far 
it's been

a colossal waste of time.

I've found that all the "Youtube University" and User Guides are
superficial when it comes to styles.  My goal is to set up a set of
corporate styles that can be used by numerous people in our 
organization to

ensure consistency.

Can someone direct me to some more detailed documentation on how the 
styles
are supposed to work?  Perhaps with some more detailed documentation 
I can
figure out what or how these are supposed to work ... or file a bug 
reports.


Thank you in advance.
B.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Customizing styles and keeping them in templates in Writer?

2023-11-24 Thread Philip Jackson

I've made my own templates for various categories of documents and equipped 
each template with its own sets of customised styles. They work fine. I did the 
set up some years ago and don't recall exactly what steps were required but I 
don't recall any particular difficulty.

I do remember that when I first used one of my templates, my customised styles 
didn't show up but that was a simple oversight on my part. In the sidebar panel 
(Ctrl-F5) which displays the styles, I had never noticed the selector at the 
bottom which by default shows 'Applied styles'.

With a new blank document, there'll only be a default paragraph style 
displayed. When I clicked on the drop-down list and selected 'All styles', 
there were all my custom styles.

I don't suppose you've made the same oversight?

Philip

On 24/11/2023 20:22, bunk3m wrote:

Hello,

I'm using LO 7.6.2.1 on Win11 and Mac.

I can't get the styles to work and stick in templates.  I've used styles
and templates in MS Word for 30 years before switching to LO in the past 5
years.  I've read the help, Writer User Guide and Designing with LO 2nd Ed.
and apparently have missed something conceptual as I can't get the styles
to stick within the templates.

I've created the styles in blank documents and then saved the document as a
template.I expected that the paragraph, font, list formats & styles that I
created would be saved in the template and reusable in subsequent documents
created from the templates.

But when I use the templates to create a new document, none of the
previously created styles are there.  I find I have to recreate all the
styles again as they aren't anywhere within the template.  So far it's been
a colossal waste of time.

I've found that all the "Youtube University" and User Guides are
superficial when it comes to styles.  My goal is to set up a set of
corporate styles that can be used by numerous people in our organization to
ensure consistency.

Can someone direct me to some more detailed documentation on how the styles
are supposed to work?  Perhaps with some more detailed documentation I can
figure out what or how these are supposed to work ... or file a bug reports.

Thank you in advance.
B.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Customizing styles and keeping them in templates in Writer?

2023-11-24 Thread Eric Beversluis
The only other thing I can think of is that there's some step in 
creating and saving the template that you're missing.


If no one else can help, later I'll open Write in M$ Word and try to 
guess what step you might be missing.


Eric

On 11/24/23 15:08, bunk3m wrote:

  Thank you Eric.

I have a number of templates.  For example, templates for different types
of reports, memoranda, letters etc.

I did create a default template initially.  I thought it would be something
like the "normal" in MS Word.  It contained all the styles.  Then I created
one a template for a report based on the default.  Unfortunately neither
the default or the report template kept the list styles or paragraph styles
created in either.  The only thing that stuck was the fonts but those are
set as default in the User Preferences and not in the template.

I'm not sure how making one of these templates the default will fix the
missing styles within each of the templates as it hasn't worked so far.

B.

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 14:39, Eric Beversluis <
ebe...@researchintegration.org> wrote:


Have you made your template your default template?

On Linux: Files/Templates/Manage Templates. Probably similar on Windows.

On 11/24/23 14:22, bunk3m wrote:

Hello,

I'm using LO 7.6.2.1 on Win11 and Mac.

I can't get the styles to work and stick in templates.  I've used styles
and templates in MS Word for 30 years before switching to LO in the past

5

years.  I've read the help, Writer User Guide and Designing with LO 2nd

Ed.

and apparently have missed something conceptual as I can't get the styles
to stick within the templates.

I've created the styles in blank documents and then saved the document

as a

template.I expected that the paragraph, font, list formats & styles that

I

created would be saved in the template and reusable in subsequent

documents

created from the templates.

But when I use the templates to create a new document, none of the
previously created styles are there.  I find I have to recreate all the
styles again as they aren't anywhere within the template.  So far it's

been

a colossal waste of time.

I've found that all the "Youtube University" and User Guides are
superficial when it comes to styles.  My goal is to set up a set of
corporate styles that can be used by numerous people in our organization

to

ensure consistency.

Can someone direct me to some more detailed documentation on how the

styles

are supposed to work?  Perhaps with some more detailed documentation I

can

figure out what or how these are supposed to work ... or file a bug

reports.

Thank you in advance.
B.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Customizing styles and keeping them in templates in Writer?

2023-11-24 Thread bunk3m
OK. I think I did.  Please let me know if it didn't work properly.

I hate gmail for trying to modify anything typical in an email.  It's a
piece of shit web software. :-)

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 15:08, bunk3m  wrote:

> Thank you Eric.
>
> I have a number of templates.  For example, templates for different types
> of reports, memoranda, letters etc.
>
> I did create a default template initially.  I thought it would be
> something like the "normal" in MS Word.  It contained all the styles.  Then
> I created one a template for a report based on the default.  Unfortunately
> neither the default or the report template kept the list styles or
> paragraph styles created in either.  The only thing that stuck was the
> fonts but those are set as default in the User Preferences and not in the
> template.
>
> I'm not sure how making one of these templates the default will fix the
> missing styles within each of the templates as it hasn't worked so far.
>
> B.
>
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 14:39, Eric Beversluis <
> ebe...@researchintegration.org> wrote:
>
>> Have you made your template your default template?
>>
>> On Linux: Files/Templates/Manage Templates. Probably similar on Windows.
>>
>> On 11/24/23 14:22, bunk3m wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'm using LO 7.6.2.1 on Win11 and Mac.
>> >
>> > I can't get the styles to work and stick in templates.  I've used styles
>> > and templates in MS Word for 30 years before switching to LO in the
>> past 5
>> > years.  I've read the help, Writer User Guide and Designing with LO 2nd
>> Ed.
>> > and apparently have missed something conceptual as I can't get the
>> styles
>> > to stick within the templates.
>> >
>> > I've created the styles in blank documents and then saved the document
>> as a
>> > template.I expected that the paragraph, font, list formats & styles
>> that I
>> > created would be saved in the template and reusable in subsequent
>> documents
>> > created from the templates.
>> >
>> > But when I use the templates to create a new document, none of the
>> > previously created styles are there.  I find I have to recreate all the
>> > styles again as they aren't anywhere within the template.  So far it's
>> been
>> > a colossal waste of time.
>> >
>> > I've found that all the "Youtube University" and User Guides are
>> > superficial when it comes to styles.  My goal is to set up a set of
>> > corporate styles that can be used by numerous people in our
>> organization to
>> > ensure consistency.
>> >
>> > Can someone direct me to some more detailed documentation on how the
>> styles
>> > are supposed to work?  Perhaps with some more detailed documentation I
>> can
>> > figure out what or how these are supposed to work ... or file a bug
>> reports.
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance.
>> > B.
>> >
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>>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Customizing styles and keeping them in templates in Writer?

2023-11-24 Thread bunk3m
 Thank you Eric.

I have a number of templates.  For example, templates for different types
of reports, memoranda, letters etc.

I did create a default template initially.  I thought it would be something
like the "normal" in MS Word.  It contained all the styles.  Then I created
one a template for a report based on the default.  Unfortunately neither
the default or the report template kept the list styles or paragraph styles
created in either.  The only thing that stuck was the fonts but those are
set as default in the User Preferences and not in the template.

I'm not sure how making one of these templates the default will fix the
missing styles within each of the templates as it hasn't worked so far.

B.

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 at 14:39, Eric Beversluis <
ebe...@researchintegration.org> wrote:

> Have you made your template your default template?
>
> On Linux: Files/Templates/Manage Templates. Probably similar on Windows.
>
> On 11/24/23 14:22, bunk3m wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm using LO 7.6.2.1 on Win11 and Mac.
> >
> > I can't get the styles to work and stick in templates.  I've used styles
> > and templates in MS Word for 30 years before switching to LO in the past
> 5
> > years.  I've read the help, Writer User Guide and Designing with LO 2nd
> Ed.
> > and apparently have missed something conceptual as I can't get the styles
> > to stick within the templates.
> >
> > I've created the styles in blank documents and then saved the document
> as a
> > template.I expected that the paragraph, font, list formats & styles that
> I
> > created would be saved in the template and reusable in subsequent
> documents
> > created from the templates.
> >
> > But when I use the templates to create a new document, none of the
> > previously created styles are there.  I find I have to recreate all the
> > styles again as they aren't anywhere within the template.  So far it's
> been
> > a colossal waste of time.
> >
> > I've found that all the "Youtube University" and User Guides are
> > superficial when it comes to styles.  My goal is to set up a set of
> > corporate styles that can be used by numerous people in our organization
> to
> > ensure consistency.
> >
> > Can someone direct me to some more detailed documentation on how the
> styles
> > are supposed to work?  Perhaps with some more detailed documentation I
> can
> > figure out what or how these are supposed to work ... or file a bug
> reports.
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> > B.
> >
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>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Customizing styles and keeping them in templates in Writer?

2023-11-24 Thread Eric Beversluis

Have you set your template as your default template?

On Linux: Files/Templates/Manage Templates. Probably similar on Windows.

On 11/24/23 14:22, bunk3m wrote:

Hello,

I'm using LO 7.6.2.1 on Win11 and Mac.

I can't get the styles to work and stick in templates.  I've used styles
and templates in MS Word for 30 years before switching to LO in the past 5
years.  I've read the help, Writer User Guide and Designing with LO 2nd Ed.
and apparently have missed something conceptual as I can't get the styles
to stick within the templates.

I've created the styles in blank documents and then saved the document as a
template.I expected that the paragraph, font, list formats & styles that I
created would be saved in the template and reusable in subsequent documents
created from the templates.

But when I use the templates to create a new document, none of the
previously created styles are there.  I find I have to recreate all the
styles again as they aren't anywhere within the template.  So far it's been
a colossal waste of time.

I've found that all the "Youtube University" and User Guides are
superficial when it comes to styles.  My goal is to set up a set of
corporate styles that can be used by numerous people in our organization to
ensure consistency.

Can someone direct me to some more detailed documentation on how the styles
are supposed to work?  Perhaps with some more detailed documentation I can
figure out what or how these are supposed to work ... or file a bug reports.

Thank you in advance.
B.


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[libreoffice-users] Customizing styles and keeping them in templates in Writer?

2023-11-24 Thread bunk3m
Hello,

I'm using LO 7.6.2.1 on Win11 and Mac.

I can't get the styles to work and stick in templates.  I've used styles
and templates in MS Word for 30 years before switching to LO in the past 5
years.  I've read the help, Writer User Guide and Designing with LO 2nd Ed.
and apparently have missed something conceptual as I can't get the styles
to stick within the templates.

I've created the styles in blank documents and then saved the document as a
template.I expected that the paragraph, font, list formats & styles that I
created would be saved in the template and reusable in subsequent documents
created from the templates.

But when I use the templates to create a new document, none of the
previously created styles are there.  I find I have to recreate all the
styles again as they aren't anywhere within the template.  So far it's been
a colossal waste of time.

I've found that all the "Youtube University" and User Guides are
superficial when it comes to styles.  My goal is to set up a set of
corporate styles that can be used by numerous people in our organization to
ensure consistency.

Can someone direct me to some more detailed documentation on how the styles
are supposed to work?  Perhaps with some more detailed documentation I can
figure out what or how these are supposed to work ... or file a bug reports.

Thank you in advance.
B.

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