Re: [libreoffice-users] OpenOffice - LibreOffice
On 3/5/2011 6:19 AM, Isabel Marc wrote: Hello, I have MICROSOFT Office XP Pro and use a lot of databases (self)made with ACCESS. Because I want to use some of these programs/files on another computer I have installed Open- and LibreOffice. It seems that with both systems I can open an Access-file but: - in the navigationbar of Tables: -- the original tables are present -- the original query's are present - the navigationbars Query's and Forms and Reports are empty I cannot find a way to have the forms/reports in this. The original Access-file also is setup to open this with a particular form so this also will not function. Do I have missed something? Thanks I don't think you've missed anything, there is nothing for Access/Base that corresponds to the Word/Writer, Excel/Calc, and PowerPoint/Impress interoperability. The underlying models are quite different between the two. In general, you have to recreate forms and reports after making the data tables accessible (generally through a connection, or by copying them into Base's internal HSQLDB database). Here's a link to some more information: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Connecting_to_Microsoft_Access -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] soffice.bin - Entry Point Not Found
This may be an issue for the developers rather than the users -- it certainly is not a problem that's come up here. If you haven't yet done so, you might try checking the MD5SUM of the file you downloaded to see if you got a good copy of the file, and if not, uninstall, download a new copy, and reinstall. If your copy is good, using the reinstall Repair option might help. Maybe somebody else will have more suggestions -- hope so. On 2/27/2011 1:34 PM, Ernest H Harris wrote: I did not receive a reply. So, I thought I would re-send. I can not find a solution. Ernest From: Ernest H Harrise.h.har...@sbcglobal.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 5:07:17 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] soffice.bin - Entry Point Not Found I just installed LibreOffice 3.3.1. The installation appears to be successful. However, when I attempt to run the program, I receive the message: soffice.bin - Entry Point Not Found The procedure entry point osl_setEnvironment could not be located in the dynamic link library sal3.dll. I took a snapshot of the error message. Is is permissible to include attachments in these messages? I am running Windows 7 SP1 (32-bit). What must I do to correct this? Ernest -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't subscibe to the list
On 2/24/2011 5:12 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-23 2:16 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: On 2/23/2011 11:11 AM, NoOp wrote: On 02/23/2011 03:39 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-23 3:03 AM, James Wilde wrote: Not so. I moderated Mr Sutton's post. Is there not a way for moderators to add some kind of 'moderated post' header or body tag to these kinds of messages? If not, there should be, otherwise how is anyone to know? Agree. Something along the lines of: If these lists work like the OOo ones, the *only* thing moderators have the capability to do is either reject the message or allow it to go to the list. They can't affect the subject or content of the message at all. Maybe one of the moderators will confirm that this is true for these lists, too. There was a header added that list members could filter on (and look at if they wanted) to tell which ones were moderated and which ones weren't. My understanding is these lists don't add that header. Right, there is no such header. The Archived-At header was added, perhaps intending to help with following the discussion through the archives, but I talked about why this doesn't really work in an earlier note on this thread. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't subscibe to the list
On 2/23/2011 11:11 AM, NoOp wrote: On 02/23/2011 03:39 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-23 3:03 AM, James Wilde wrote: Not so. I moderated Mr Sutton's post. Is there not a way for moderators to add some kind of 'moderated post' header or body tag to these kinds of messages? If not, there should be, otherwise how is anyone to know? Agree. Something along the lines of: [Moderated]subject If these lists work like the OOo ones, the *only* thing moderators have the capability to do is either reject the message or allow it to go to the list. They can't affect the subject or content of the message at all. Maybe one of the moderators will confirm that this is true for these lists, too. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting
On 2/22/2011 7:35 AM, Karl-Heinz Gödderz wrote: Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 10.04, LibreOffice 3.3.0 If I change a style/format I can't revert it with the revert/back-button, is this a bug? Assuming you mean Ctrl-Z (or Undo), I have no problem doing this on Win7. Next question: how to fix/pin the formats/styles-menu? Cheers Karl-Heinz The toolbar can be docked to an edge -- I typically drag it to the right edge, and when the gray frame appears I drop it. Sometimes if LibO terminates abnormally the setting can be lost (or at least, that's the case with OOo; haven't seen this yet with LibO). -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top-posting
On 2/18/2011 11:30 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-17 9:18 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: The presence of archives, or people coming in to a discussion that's already underway, is the main reason that mailing lists differ from normal conversational e-mailing where there may well be only two parties, or several people who have all been there since the beginning, where everybody just needs to see the most recent addition to the conversation (or occasionally look deeper into the material for reference) and top posting is the most effective way to keep communications going. That makes much more sense on a FORUM... But, Barbara, honestly, I guarantee you the vast majority of people who participate on mail lists do not go to the archives to read entire threads... ever. They come here to post a question and get an answer. Understood. But we do have archives, and we do try to encourage people to use them. That's why I say there's not ever likely to be a totally satisfactory solution to this. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top-posting
On 2/17/2011 6:58 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 07:58:08PM +, Tom Davies wrote: snip. At first i was prepared to accept that there might be technical reasons why bottom posting is better but now i am beginning to think that anything except top posting is insane. That's undoubtedly the reason many mailing lists suggest doing it. You have something against trimming quotes? I don't know if you'd count this as a technical reason, but archives are a lot more generally useful if threads can be read top to bottom, instead of somewhere near bottom to bottom, somewhere higher up than before to where I was before, etc. The presence of archives, or people coming in to a discussion that's already underway, is the main reason that mailing lists differ from normal conversational e-mailing where there may well be only two parties, or several people who have all been there since the beginning, where everybody just needs to see the most recent addition to the conversation (or occasionally look deeper into the material for reference) and top posting is the most effective way to keep communications going. But this whole discussion has been held so many times that we're *very* unlikely to come to a fully satisfactory conclusion. It can take on a fervor that always reminds me of Jonathan Swift's Lilliputians and their big-endian/little-endian wars. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Very basic questions
On 2/7/2011 4:54 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Yes, LibreOffice can open any and all documents created in OpenOffice. There are no problems there afaik. The problem with .doc files (or .docx) is NOT between OpenOffice and LibreOffice. Such files saved by either LO or OOo and then opened in the other look the same. (except that LO can add .svg pictures which OOo can't handle yet). Frequently, documents saved by any version of MS Word and then opened with any other version of Word or any other program do have problems with layout. Usually it is just pictures but sometimes other objects that have not been formatted inline (whatever that means) have wandered off-course slightly but can be dragged back into place. On different machine's word-processors tend to re-organise layouts a little to take into account the printer settings on that machine. This makes it even more important to format pictures and objects inline rather than 'floating' or 'skating' around over the top of text (at least that is the way i understand 'inline' at the moment). There appears to be 5 ways around the layout problems. 1. Use File - Export to pdf because pdf retains exactly the layout regardless of printer settings or anything. Perhaps send the .doc along with the .pdf (which i re-save as a .gif as it can be much lighter-weight). People can see the layout of the pdf and then edit the .doc. Annoyingly, pdf is difficult for most people to edit but at least the layout is unchanged. 2. Make sure pictures and objects are formatted inline when you edit/create a document. 3. Drag the pictures and objects back into the right places. 4. Give everyone links to download LibreOffice (or OpenOffice but preferably LibreO) whenever you send out documents. 5 Use the .odt format instead. Most MS Office users can read/write/edit these now. Only MS Office 2003 and earlier can't and most users of those older products might appreciate upgrading to LibreO anyway. I wouldn't recommend this. MS-ODF differs in a number of ways from everybody else's ODF, and spreadsheets in particular get really mangled. The problems are not as apparent with text documents, but Some people are managing to use both OpenOffice and LibreOffic on one machine but it generally seems to cause problems. I gather that these problems are being worked on. I would recommend only having 1 or the other at any one time as there are unlikely to be any differences between documents produced by either except that LibreO has a bit more functionality and a more aggressive update schedule. Regards from Tom :) From: Luukluu...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 7 February, 2011 12:03:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Very basic questions On 07-02-11 12:44, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hello, On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:17:50 - Robertmlbrnrob...@rob29.plus.com wrote: Hullo, Some very basic questions that I don't see in your FAQs ! I've been using Open Office for some years now and want to change to Libre Office. Will Libre Office open all the files I have made with Open Office ? Yes, it will open the files that you've created with OpenOffice.org. But there are some problems, especially with pictures in .doc-files at least there are a lot of problems reported her about that Can Libre Office and Open Office both be installed and used on one machine ? Yes, I'm using LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org on the same computer. I haven't experienced any problems. Some problems seems to 'go away' when openoffice.org is de-installed... Regards, Sigrid Just to add somethings to this questions. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars
On my Win7 system, all the toolbars for Writer forms behave properly (I didn't try all the controls, though). The problem I found was that I couldn't set up list box options (bug 33537). I do find it fairly difficult to tell if Design Mode is on or off, though, the contrast is not very high. On 2/1/2011 5:13 AM, Mobidoy wrote: I will give it another try but, before I do so, I will do a clean install just in case old LibO Settings could act on it. Just need to finish this form first for some clients then I will have plenty of time to play wit it :) Chris On 11-02-01 03:35 AM, Alexander Thurgood [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: Le 29/01/11 06:27, Mobidoy a écrit : Hi, In BASE I am trying to edit a form I have but, there is no dialog box opening when right clickig - selecting control. Without it, not much can be done. Also, I could not get the control bar so, cannot add anything. Could someone verify they are also affected by this ? As I said in my previous post, I can get the properties of the control to display by right clicking on it. I can also see the Design Mode toolbar, and can activate / deactivate it. This is with LibO final, Mac OSX 10.6.6 Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [hidden email] /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=2395864i=0 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Base-form-editing-creation-impossible-missing-dialog-boxes-and-Menu-bars-tp2369127p2395864.html To unsubscribe from Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars, click here http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=2369127code=Y2hyaXN0aWFuLnBhcmVudDAxQGdtYWlsLmNvbXwyMzY5MTI3fDY5MDk4MzE0Nw==. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe
On 1/31/2011 7:57 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi James, Barbara, *, 2011/1/30 James Wildewilde.ja...@gmail.com: On Jan 30, 2011, at 21:47 , Barbara Duprey wrote: On 1/30/2011 6:35 AM, James Wilde wrote: Sorry, no, Phil. No-one can unsubscribe you. Here's a suggestion: Empty your mailbox of stuff from users@libreoffice.org. Then unsubscribe from the address you believe you are subescribed under, which naturally enough is the one which receives the emails. There is normally only a few seconds' delay between sending your message and getting the reply to act on. If you don't get one, check an incoming email and see if the address is the one you thought. You might have another email address which you forward to your main address. The address to send your mail to is at the bottom of this mail. Clicking or right-clicking on that should open an email message to send. No, that goes to users+help, not to users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org (apparently to accommodate the differences for people who subscribed to the digest -- or used -nomail, in which case I have no idea why they'd bother to unsubscribe). Whoever is trying to unsubscribe will probably get there in the end, though. But if they don't know the subscribed address, they'll need to look at the Return-Path header and pick out the indirect form (using equals instead of at) of the subscribed address, and unsubscribe that. Yes, the footer says clearly: Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org So you send a message, to get the unsubscribe instructions. As you said, there's a difference in the mailto-address for the regular mail and the digest version of the mailing list. The no-mail option exists for those people who follow the lists through a news gateway like gmane. You need to be subscribed, to send messages, but you'll get the replies through your newsreader. So there's no need to send you the mails extra. What I meant was that there's info in the help about how to unsubscribe a no-mail address, and I really don't know why anybody would bother! Do you know why the subscription is necessary for Gmane (etc.) when it isn't for the OOo lists? Apparently there are some significant differences relative to ezmlm handling. The main problem I see is that the moderators are the only ones who know that a user is not subscribed, so they have to give instructions about how to follow the thread. The tricky part is that they can't supply specific links (those don't yet exist at the point of moderation), and the user needs to be able to reply as well as view, to supply additional info, for example. So they have to get search instructions, and how to subscribe no-mail. Question to moderator/owner -- the help doesn't describe anything that uses the indirect form in the case of a subscribed address that is no longer directly accessible. Does that capability exist? How does it work, if so? As to your question, I don't know the answer, and we'll have to wait for the owner. I'm just a moderator. I don't know, if this possibility exists for the lists at libreoffice.org. I am a moderator too, but I haven't come across anything like it. I might ask on the moderators list, if this is possible - if James isn't faster. :) Sigrid There are hints in the Return-Path header that the indirect address (with an equals instead of an at) can be used here, too, but the use of parameters (with minus signs) complicates it. I would guess that the indirect address would be attached to the command part after a hyphen (or plus?), with the parameters following after a space, but I'm not sure. On the OOo lists, I always recommend the indirect form for subscribe/unsubscribe, to avoid issues with munging and with not using the same account for both actions. Guess I could try it and see! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe
On 1/30/2011 6:35 AM, James Wilde wrote: Sorry, no, Phil. No-one can unsubscribe you. Here's a suggestion: Empty your mailbox of stuff from users@libreoffice.org. Then unsubscribe from the address you believe you are subescribed under, which naturally enough is the one which receives the emails. There is normally only a few seconds' delay between sending your message and getting the reply to act on. If you don't get one, check an incoming email and see if the address is the one you thought. You might have another email address which you forward to your main address. The address to send your mail to is at the bottom of this mail. Clicking or right-clicking on that should open an email message to send. No, that goes to users+help, not to users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org (apparently to accommodate the differences for people who subscribed to the digest -- or used -nomail, in which case I have no idea why they'd bother to unsubscribe). Whoever is trying to unsubscribe will probably get there in the end, though. But if they don't know the subscribed address, they'll need to look at the Return-Path header and pick out the indirect form (using equals instead of at) of the subscribed address, and unsubscribe that. Question to moderator/owner -- the help doesn't describe anything that uses the indirect form in the case of a subscribed address that is no longer directly accessible. Does that capability exist? How does it work, if so? //James On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:28 , Phil Thane wrote: Hi, I subscribed to the list when LO was first announced because I'm a journalist with regular Linux / FreeSoftware features to fill. It was great, but now there is way too many people and my mailbox is getting swamped. I emailed the Unsubscribe address a while ago, but didn't get a reply - unless of course it was swamped by the LO mail I deleted! Please can someone unsubscribe me, or switch me to a weekly digest version? -- regards Phil Thane Bryn Villa Penycoed Road Llangollen LL20 8LR Wales (UK) ++44 (0) 1978 861677 (landline) ++44 (0) 7971 087623 (mobile) Skype: philthane www.pthane.co.uk -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] The RTF export and import stuff
On 12/22/2010 2:35 PM, Miklos Vajna wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 09:29:40PM +0530, shirish ???shirisha...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, nice Miklos. Its not everyday that a developer comes up and shares his work with us users. It would be nice if you would blog about it sometimes, maybe tag it so somebody like me who doesn't have any programming knowledge (and doesn't want to) can come and see what progress is being made in that. What you linked is already the list of posts tagged as 'libreoffice'. :) On the other side, what would you say would be a good strategy to push other text-editors to use the spec. or come close to it. What they need to look at, I can atleast ask in abiword, gedit and other open-source text-editors even if its just as a wishlist bug. Would need that info. That may sounds too obvious: most of the spec is clear, so what a developer of a text editor can do is really 1) read a part of the spec 2) as a reference implementation, you can have a look at what MSO does, as long as the blackbox model it provides helps you. Lastly, I have just subscribed to the nomail version of the list. While the traffic is not much now, in the coming days I do feel its going to be big and I don't want to be distracted by other discussions. As already said not a programmer so many things which would be discussed may be those as well as other wishlist stuff. If you have a specific document in odt format which is not exported properly in RTF and it is in MSO, then you are welcome to report it following http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport and as my free time permits, I can try to fix it up. Unless he's following on Nabble or somewhere, Shirish (shirisha...@gmail.com) probably didn't see this -- note the reference to the nomail version. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Survey: Usage of LibreOffice components
On 11/30/2010 2:32 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-11-30 3:13 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: On 11/30/2010 10:18 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: Am 30.11.2010 09:47, schrieb Arda Tunccekic: Maybe Quickstarter was usefull with the slow loading StarOffice suite, but OO and LO already load up pretty quick. And no one uses it here as I see. I don't use it too. I think it would be switched off by default or removed.. Disagree... makes a *big* difference in LibO startup time here... Sample/simple document opening time: With Quickstarter running: about 1 second Without Quickstarter running: about 8 seconds I don't really care what the default is, but it definitely should not be removed completely until a *lot* more optimization is done. Do you by any chance have the option to check for updates enabled? That makes a very dramatic difference in startup time, and is really not particularly useful given the frequency and scope of updates (i.e., replacements). No, I generally turn that off at install time, but I just went to check/confirm this, and now I can't seem to find that option anywhere... pointer? I'm using OOo 3.1.1 on Win7-64bit, and it's under Tools Options, OpenOffice.org, Online Update, Check for updates automatically. Sorry, I don't know if the LibO beta has a corresponding option. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] decimal points in a column
On 10/12/2010 12:21 AM, David Nuddleman wrote: Table of several columns in Writer. Creat one column of figures, right-justified. Line up by decimal point keeping two decimals places. If enter 17 (no decimal point), interpret to 17.00. If enter 17.1, show 17.10 -- without entering trailing zero. Can't find setting or mention in index, or under menus for formatting, alignment, or auto-correct. To save keystrokes, can this be done in a table? It should work if you select the column, right-click, and select Number Format. Then select Number and one of the formats that shows two decimal places, and set the decimal places value near the bottom of the dialog to 2. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.