Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)
Notepad was still in Windows distributions the last time I was aware. Windows 7 included it, and i think Windows 10 still includes Notepad. If not, there is a free program named Notepad++ . Another fairly independent way to distribute documents is by outputting to PDF. Every platform that I know of supports PDF. On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, anne-ology > wrote: >Thanks for this information; > some on this list might enjoying knowing about it. > >Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the > list; > I am not interested in changing. > > > > From: Tim Deaton > Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden > formated text in odt) > To: anne-ology > > > I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for several > years now as my text editor. After using the free version (NoteTab Light) > for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version. I still don't use any > features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the authors > deserved something for their excellent work. > > You can find the free version here: > http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light > > I think you'll really enjoy it. > > -- Tim Deaton > > > > On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote: > > If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think > > you'll have a non-formatted document; > >if so, then using a simple text document should do this. > > > > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on > > all MsFt machines, but now not; > >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be > glad > > to upload to you if you so wish. > > > > > > > > From: Walther Koehler > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > > > > > > Dear LO users, > > > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text. > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text > in a > > simple way? > > Is it possible by a macro? > > > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file > > without > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties) > > > > Thank you in advance > > > > Walther > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- -- Barry Smith Secure Computer Service c 704-497-4217 e bnsmith...@gmail.com e scs.bns...@gmail.com e barry.judy.sm...@gmail.com w1 http://bit.ly/l8QJup w2 <http://bit.ly/l8QJup w2> http://scs-llc.info/ Feel free to donate to my survival fund at http://j.mp/OOSsz6 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Unknown Infection
I just received the following response from trex5...@aol.com directly to me. Sending it to the list. Wanted it on the same thread, thus the copy-paste of his response. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:58 AM, wrote: > Thank you, it was a false alarm. I used AVG 2013. The virus database was > 3204/6473. I am terribly sorry if this has caused any concern. I didn't pay > attention carefully to the How To Report section on the LibreOffice website. > Used the wrong link haha. I'll refer to the security link on the website > next time. Thank you and I appreciate your understanding. > > Regards, > Trex5473 > I also received the response directly to me instead of the list, with good information. Copy-paste again. On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: > > I have heard of anti-virus packages in the past having a false positive for > a part of LO system. But it has been maybe 6 months to a year since I have > heard of one doing this, if my memory is correct. > > Yes, we need the anti-virus package name and what it states is the virus > involved. > > To be honest, it could be a virus that infected the file on/by his/her > system so it would "activate" every time LO starts up, instead of the file > being download with the infection. > > I know that I run anti virus on my most active systems daily automatically > so I can keep infections off my system. I even have my Linux system run its > anti virus starting before hours midnight nightly. With 3 drives totaling > of up to 5 TB of storage space, sometimes it does not finish till after I > have breakfast. I keep my Windows laptops protected by Comodo Internet > Security Suite - the free version - and run other security package weekly > and/or monthly. Windows users need all the protection they can get to stop > all of those nasties that people are getting every day or so. Peace, -- Barry Smith Secure Computer Service c 704-497-4217 e bnsmith...@gmail.com e scs.bns...@gmail.com w1 http://bit.ly/l8QJup w2 http://scs-llc.info/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Unknown Infection
I'll bet a mention of he infection would help. This would allow someone to look up the virus signature, and see if the signature exists. Also, a mention of the virus program, and your virus database version, since some virus programs use different virus signatures at different times. Peace, On Sunday, July 7, 2013, trex5...@aol.com wrote: > Hey, LibreOffice. I scanned my computer for any problems, and found that > there's some kind of infection in the soffice.exe file. I'm running > LibreOffice 4.0.0.103 on Windows 7. > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: > users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- -- Barry Smith Secure Computer Service c 704-497-4217 e bnsmith...@gmail.com e scs.bns...@gmail.com e barry.judy.sm...@gmail.com w1 http://bit.ly/l8QJup w2 <http://bit.ly/l8QJup w2> http://scs-llc.info/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet -- General searching guidance...
MiguelAngel wrote: > El 12/02/12 16:04, Barry Smith escribió: >> Thank you for your help, Miguel. >> >>> =MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!B$2:B$1491,0) >> >> That is part of the problem. That says within the WB1 column, that >> there is a match on the 122 row, but the actual row is 123... so MATCH >> gives a row relative to the top of the vector. That is even better than >> I was hoping for (I was thinking that I'd have to subtract a scalar >> because the matrix started in Row 2 (or 3, since I'm trying to create >> the stats before the draw on 2/8). >> So, I dupe the MATCH function for each WB column, and can I then use MIN >> to find the first occurrence... >> >> Something like >> =MIN( MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!B$2:B$1491,0), >> MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!C$2:C$1491,0), >> MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!D$2:D$1491,0), >> MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!E$2:E$1491,0), >> MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!F$2:F$1491,0) ) >> >> That would give me the lowest row in the matrix where N(A2) is found... >> I think. >> >> Thank you for your help, Miguel. >> >> Paz, (escribo español también) >> > For you can use a matrix fomula: > =ArrayFormula(MIN(IF('20120208'!B$2:H$1490=$A2;ROW('20120208'!B$2:H$1490);99))) > > This is how is view in google docs, > > To enter in LibreOffice, intruduce the formula: > =MIN(IF('20120208'.B$2:H$1490=$A2;ROW('20120208'.B$2:H$1490);99)) > and finish with Crtl+Shift+Enter > > Take care of sheet separator, if you use Libo or google docs. > > Miguel Ángel. > > Wow! I read about array functions somewhere in the LO docs, but I had no idea how to use them. Also, I'm only using LO. I tossed the xls up to Google docs so that people who wanted to help could see the sheets that I was working with. > To enter in LibreOffice, intruduce the formula: > =MIN(IF('20120208'.B$2:H$1490=$A2;ROW('20120208'.B$2:H$1490);99)) > and finish with Crtl+Shift+Enter I'll have to study that formula carefully... =MIN(IF('20120208'.B$2:G$1490=$A2,ROW('20120208'.B$2:G$1490)," ")) Column H is the PowerPlay column - it doesn't fit into the domain for Powerball Draws... and the Ctrl+Shift+Enter... I tried just Enter and got an Err: 504. I copied the formula for B to G, pasted, and finished with Ctrl-Shift-Enter, and it worked. Thank you for your help, Miguel. I need to learn more about "array" functions... the one applied when you use the Ctrl-Shift-Enter. Back to the design table. :) Paz, -- Barry Smith e bnsmith...@gmail.com w http://bit.ly/l8QJup -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub
drew wrote: > On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 07:10 -0800, Pedro wrote: >> drewjensen wrote >>> PDF is just another throw back to printing on dead trees in this regard, >>> where the creator of the file sets the size of the layout when the file >>> is generated. >>> >>> This has additional implications, such as page counts and the use of >>> page numbers in a table of contents and index, >>> >> That is a little unfair on PDF! PDF is excellent for archiving documents as >> IF they were printed. It saves on trees and it saves on disk space (compared >> to digitized images of documents). > Hi Pedro, > > 1st - if we continue this, and I would not mind at all, how about we > kick it over to the discuss list? > > But for the moment. > > So we are in agreement - PDF does a great job of replicating the printed > page. > >> The fixed page size and numbering is extremely important when you are >> referring to some portion of a document. It doesn't make sense to say, "in >> the third paragraph of page 20" and then because the text was re-flowed to >> fit in a 3" screen that paragraph is in page 100... > Well, stop thinking that way (hey didn't I adomish against such > statement in a recent email...ah humans we are all schytzoid)... > > Instead of saying "see the scratch mark on tablet 4", use a hyperlink. > It will be just as valid when the pages flow differently on different > devices. > > >> Another big advantage of PDF (when loaded in a PC, Win or Linux, and >> probably on a Mac) is that you can embed the fonts so you know your page >> will look *exactly* like you designed it. Apparently this does not work in a >> Kindle, so it is expected that they will look different because fonts are >> being replaced (as in an epub) > Yup - embedded fonts = hard coding. > > I'm not saying there is no place for PDF and it's like just that there > are other ways to view the world, the new world. > > // drew > >> Just my 2 cents ;) >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Write2epub-tp3732714p3735140.html >> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > Hi, Group. I read the whole thread, and came back to this note as a jump-in point. My opinion is epub is fine for portable devices, and that PDF does it's best to duplicate the printed page. My pet peeve (to consider) is that most PDF ebooks that I have used (and couldn't use) were either jpg pages (I had to tweak cups-PDF myself) or just not built to be "Searchable". When I open an e-book for a programming book or a reference book (no matter the format), I'm not looking to read it from cover to cover. I'm looking to find an answer to a problem. I know the keywords that I'm looking for, and I want to search. I don't want to roll through a TOC, I don't want to flip back to an index... I want to !search!. Before my Ubuntu box crashed, I had found a procedure using two Linux tools (one was called "cuniform" I believe). One tool would OCR the scanned graphic pages (for some reason it worked only with 150cpi/dpi scans) and create an XML list of words, and where they were on the page and on what page. The next step was h2-something which would merge the PDF and the XML list and create a "searchable" PDF. Please, continue with the war and peace treaties. I have included my one cent (used to be two cents, until the taxes went up... again). -- -- Barry Smith Secure Computer Services v 980-819-7397 c 704-497-4217 e bnsmith...@gmail.com w http://bit.ly/l8QJup DUNS 83-099-9384 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet -- General searching guidance...
Thank you for your help, Miguel. > =MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!B$2:B$1491,0) That is part of the problem. That says within the WB1 column, that there is a match on the 122 row, but the actual row is 123... so MATCH gives a row relative to the top of the vector. That is even better than I was hoping for (I was thinking that I'd have to subtract a scalar because the matrix started in Row 2 (or 3, since I'm trying to create the stats before the draw on 2/8). So, I dupe the MATCH function for each WB column, and can I then use MIN to find the first occurrence... Something like =MIN( MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!B$2:B$1491,0), MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!C$2:C$1491,0), MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!D$2:D$1491,0), MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!E$2:E$1491,0), MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!F$2:F$1491,0) ) That would give me the lowest row in the matrix where N(A2) is found... I think. Thank you for your help, Miguel. Paz, (escribo español también) -- Barry Smith e bnsmith001[at]gmail[dot]com MiguelAngel wrote: > El 12/02/12 0:37, Barry Smith escribió: >> I have always been fascinated by statistics. >> >> I'm trying to understand the math behind powerball statistics, but my >> spreadsheet experience is having trouble meeting the bill. >> >> I'm trying to duplicate the statistics that I saw on >> http://www.simplypowerball.com/?q=node/33 , most simply the GMO column >> "number of games since last hit". >> >> So far, I imported the current powerball winning numbers text file from >> http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winnums-text.txt >> >> After import, the sheet '20120208' contains draws including 20120208 and >> has 8 cols from the original data-- >> A "DrawDate", >> B "WB1", >> C "WB2", >> D "WB3", >> E "WB4", >> F "WB5", >> G "PB", >> H "PP", >> and I added a column I "Draw DOW", >> which is simply a DOW number from the draw date in Col A. The value is >> either 4 for Wed, and 7 for Saturday. Plan to use that info later >> somehow. >> >> Next, I added another sheet which will scan the draws from first sheet, >> and report back the same stats from the SimplyPowerball webpage. >> >> The first task is getting the GMO column working. In order to do that, >> I need to understand how to lookup data in an array, report the row, and >> then to subtract a constant. >> Since the last draw is in row 2, I think I need to subtract 1. Yet I >> digress. >> >>> From sheet 'Pre-2008 WB' I'm trying to figure out how to scan array >> '20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491 row-by-row, and find the first row with a >> number that I'm looking for (which is in 'Pre-2008' in column A, which >> contains the sequential list of white balls 1 thru 55). >> >> I keep getting an error 502... which doesn't tell me what part of my >> function is invalid. >> I have tried LOOKUP function, MATCH function, and currently I am trying >> the HLOOKUP function. >> The current cell has the formula >> [=HLOOKUP(N(A2),'20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491,0)] . >> A2 contains the number 1, so I'm attempting to just find that a 1 has >> ever been drawn at the moment. >> Ideally, the formula should contain a ROW function (I think), and >> subtract 2... >> to show me before 2/8, when was a 1 drawn as a whiteball. >> >> I have thrown a copy of my current spreadsheet onto the web on my >> GoogleDoc account. the file link is http://bit.ly/wjJtXu . >> I will continue to fiddle with the formula, but if someone would be so >> kind as to teach me a little about how to find the row of the last time >> that a number was drawn... I would be grateful... because the error from >> Libre office doesn't really point me in a direction to fix the error. :) >> >> Thank you, >> > May be this is what you are looking for: > > =MATCH(N(A2),'20120208'!B$2:B$1491,0) > > Miguel Ángel. > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet -- General searching guidance...
I have always been fascinated by statistics. I'm trying to understand the math behind powerball statistics, but my spreadsheet experience is having trouble meeting the bill. I'm trying to duplicate the statistics that I saw on http://www.simplypowerball.com/?q=node/33 , most simply the GMO column "number of games since last hit". So far, I imported the current powerball winning numbers text file from http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winnums-text.txt After import, the sheet '20120208' contains draws including 20120208 and has 8 cols from the original data-- A "DrawDate", B "WB1", C "WB2", D "WB3", E "WB4", F "WB5", G "PB", H "PP", and I added a column I "Draw DOW", which is simply a DOW number from the draw date in Col A. The value is either 4 for Wed, and 7 for Saturday. Plan to use that info later somehow. Next, I added another sheet which will scan the draws from first sheet, and report back the same stats from the SimplyPowerball webpage. The first task is getting the GMO column working. In order to do that, I need to understand how to lookup data in an array, report the row, and then to subtract a constant. Since the last draw is in row 2, I think I need to subtract 1. Yet I digress. >From sheet 'Pre-2008 WB' I'm trying to figure out how to scan array '20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491 row-by-row, and find the first row with a number that I'm looking for (which is in 'Pre-2008' in column A, which contains the sequential list of white balls 1 thru 55). I keep getting an error 502... which doesn't tell me what part of my function is invalid. I have tried LOOKUP function, MATCH function, and currently I am trying the HLOOKUP function. The current cell has the formula [=HLOOKUP(N(A2),'20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491,0)] . A2 contains the number 1, so I'm attempting to just find that a 1 has ever been drawn at the moment. Ideally, the formula should contain a ROW function (I think), and subtract 2... to show me before 2/8, when was a 1 drawn as a whiteball. I have thrown a copy of my current spreadsheet onto the web on my GoogleDoc account. the file link is http://bit.ly/wjJtXu . I will continue to fiddle with the formula, but if someone would be so kind as to teach me a little about how to find the row of the last time that a number was drawn... I would be grateful... because the error from Libre office doesn't really point me in a direction to fix the error. :) Thank you, -- Barry Smith e bnsmith...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Spreadsheet -- General searching guidance...
I have always been fascinated by statistics. I'm trying to understand the math behind powerball statistics, but my spreadsheet experience is having trouble meeting the bill. I'm trying to duplicate the statistics that I saw on http://www.simplypowerball.com/?q=node/33 , most simply the GMO column "number of games since last hit". So far, I imported the current powerball winning numbers text file from http://www.powerball.com/powerball/winnums-text.txt After import, the sheet '20120208' contains draws including 20120208 and has 8 cols from the original data-- A "DrawDate", B "WB1", C "WB2", D "WB3", E "WB4", F "WB5", G "PB", H "PP", and I added a column I "Draw DOW", which is simply a DOW number from the draw date in Col A. The value is either 4 for Wed, and 7 for Saturday. Plan to use that info later somehow. Next, I added another sheet which will scan the draws from first sheet, and report back the same stats from the SimplyPowerball webpage. The first task is getting the GMO column working. In order to do that, I need to understand how to lookup data in an array, report the row, and then to subtract a constant. Since the last draw is in row 2, I think I need to subtract 1. Yet I digress. >From sheet 'Pre-2008 WB' I'm trying to figure out how to scan array '20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491 row-by-row, and find the first row with a number that I'm looking for (which is in 'Pre-2008' in column A, which contains the sequential list of white balls 1 thru 55). I keep getting an error 502... which doesn't tell me what part of my function is invalid. I have tried LOOKUP function, MATCH function, and currently I am trying the HLOOKUP function. The current cell has the formula [=HLOOKUP(N(A2),'20120208'.B3:'20120208'.F1491,0)] . A2 contains the number 1, so I'm attempting to just find that a 1 has ever been drawn at the moment. Ideally, the formula should contain a ROW function (I think), and subtract 2... to show me before 2/8, when was a 1 drawn as a whiteball. I have thrown a copy of my current spreadsheet onto the web on my GoogleDoc account. the file link is http://bit.ly/wjJtXu . I will continue to fiddle with the formula, but if someone would be so kind as to teach me a little about how to find the row of the last time that a number was drawn... I would be grateful... because the error from Libre office doesn't really point me in a direction to fix the error. :) Thank you, -- Barry Smith e bnsmith...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO on Lucid...
Hi, gang! Summary (before I get wildly off-topic) -- Thank you for a great app in LO... Keep up the great work... Okay... keep reading at your own peril. ;) You were warned. :) I have had an interesting month. For a while now, I have been cron'ing a backup of ~ to my 2T USB drive, as well as forcing myself to remember to do most of my work on the USB. I upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 maverick to Ubuntu 11.04 natty (I was surprised one night by Update Manager, so I let it upgrade to natty), and things quickly started going completely _batty_! (I chose a word that rhymed with natty... although a few curse words were what originally came to mind). I almost freaked when the upgrade started deleting all of my apps, and only replacing some of them apps in natty, and I really was nervous when it replace OoO with LO. LO is now my standard suite on Linux and Windows, and I'm still "converting" others from M$ to OoO and now LO in Windoze. So I went to natty Gnome2 and LO... tried to install Gnome3 for Evolution... very bad idea. Gnome3 would not display so I had to install natty Xfce. natty Xfce just wouldn't do some things that I was used to in Gnome2 (like mount my darn 2T USB), and I lost all of my Evolution email archives, so I installed KDE and swiched to kdm... hoping to magically "find" my evolution email structure somewhere. I somehow ended up booting Xubuntu, and using kdm/KDE... I'm not sure how I did it. Apparently, all of my Gnome2 programs were still there, but I had to find them and run them from the commandline... until I started figuring out how to add items to the menu... yet I just wasn't satisfied with KDE. One or two massive updates, and long unstable boots watching Xbuntu . . . . ... I said time to go back to LTE plus PPAs. KDE was still was not as strong as Gnome2... so I punted and called it a wash! I re-installed the last LTE which was Lucid 10.04.3. Found out that you have to amputate and donate your left forearm to science in order to install LO on Lucid, especially when Lucid is fresh. I added the LO PPA, and compiled one "sudo apt-get install" for LO including all of the "Suggested" packages (sort of as an exercise to see how many packages I had to install. The only meta package (LO) didn't include msttcore-whatever or Java-anything... I know that my final all-in-one install for LO and all that it needed was more that a single 23x80 Terminal screen could display... not to mention the research for "no candidate for this package" that I had to research. During the install of LO, dpkg couldn't find some script files or something, and dpkg was wonky on a couple of installs of Firefox 6 or Thunderbird 6... It eventually cleared up again and is working right... I say ALL of that to say -- Ubuntu is probably the most flexible platform for installing things... from synaptic apt-get aptitude dpkg to yum rfm packages. I'm just glad that I was able to get back up and running... and install LO into lucid (along with other apps)... all in less than a week. :) I've given up on evolution, when I can to what I need in TB-enig-Sunbird. Oh, you might have figured out, encryption is an important thing to me, by my last statement. Thank you for a great app in LO... Keep up the great work... so people will stop asking me to download an illegal copy of MS Office for them. ;( -- Barry Smith e bnsmith...@gmail.com w http://bit.ly/l8QJup -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted