Re: FW: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice impress presentation - metropolis - exported as PDF, doesn't display correctly on some devi

2021-05-24 Thread Cuyahoga Falls
I understand, but keep in mind that Templates are not quite the same as 
Master Slides. You can select a Template when you are creating a new 
presentation, and to be sure, the Template will contain one or more 
Master Slides.


But, once you've created a presentation, you can still change the Master 
Slide which controls the way the slide appears. "Metropolis" is both a 
Template and a Master Slide. You get to the Master Slides through the 
"Sidebar" which should be visible on the right side of your screen. If 
it isn't, click on "View", "Sidebar" to make it show up. The Sidebar 
contains all sorts of controls under various sub-menus called 
"Properties", "Slide Transition", "Animation", "Master Slide", "Styles", 
and so on.


If you click on the Master Slide icon on the Sidebar, you should see an 
array of available Master Slides. The ones you have available may depend 
on your particular installation, OS, etc. On my Windows machine, for any 
given presentation, I can choose from about 29 different Master Slides, 
some of which I created, and others that came with my particular LO 
installation. I didn't have to download any additional templates.


With any given slide showing, you can left click on an available Master 
Slide, and that MS will immediately be applied to the showing slide. You 
can select a different Master Slide for each slide of your presentation. 
Or, if you prefer, you can right click on an available Master Slide, and 
select "Apply to All Slides." In your situation, as a way to 
troubleshoot your presentation, I would select a different Master Slide 
for each of your slides in the presentation. I would then export the 
presentation as a PDF and then transfer and open it on an Apple device. 
I would expect some of your slides to be properly displayed and others 
to be messed up. I would then make a note of the Master Slides that 
worked and those that didn't.


Good luck.

Virgil

On 5/24/2021 2:14 PM, Daffy Duck wrote:

Thanks.

I did download some templates

https://dohliam.github.io/libreoffice-impress-templates/ 
<https://dohliam.github.io/libreoffice-impress-templates/>


But most of them don't seem to work?

On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 17:21 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Yeah,I don't think changing the font will fix it. I would try 
changing the Master Slide to something other than Metropolis. You can 
apply different Master Slides to different slides and see which ones 
work with Apple devices.


Virgil



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 Original message 
From: Daffy Duck 
Date: 5/24/21 12:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: FW: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice impress presentation 
- metropolis - exported as PDF, doesn't display correctly on some devi


I changed the font to Arial, same problem on iphone.

On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 21:19 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
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> Date: 5/19/21 4:10 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Daffy Duck 
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice impress presentation - 
metropolis - exported as PDF, doesn't display correctly on some devi

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> Metropolis is not a template. It is a Master Slide. You get to 
Master Slides on the control panel on the right side of the screen. 
There should be an array of available Master Slides. Right click on 
one of them and you can apply it to all slides.

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>  Original message 
> From: Daffy Duck 
> Date: 5/19/21 3:59 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice impress presentation - 
metropolis - exported as PDF, doesn't display correctly on some devi

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> I see how to get to master, but I still am unable to see how to change
> the current template.  I have searched on Google, etc, and don't see
> how to do that.
>
> I see how to do file/templates and manage, but that's it.
>
> FWIW, when I do that, I don't even see metropolis template.
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> On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 15:22 -0400, Cuyahoga Falls wrote:
> > I would only add that, after changing the font in the styles, you may
> > also have to clear any direct formatting that you may have previously
> > applied on a given slide or slides. Highlight the text on the 
slide and

> > click on "Format > Clear Direct Formatting". This will then apply the
> > style-controlled font to the selected text. *Caution:* It will also
> > eliminate any other specific formatting that you had previously 
applied,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice impress presentation - metropolis - exported as PDF, doesn't display correctly on some devi

2021-05-19 Thread Cuyahoga Falls
I would only add that, after changing the font in the styles, you may 
also have to clear any direct formatting that you may have previously 
applied on a given slide or slides. Highlight the text on the slide and 
click on "Format > Clear Direct Formatting". This will then apply the 
style-controlled font to the selected text. *Caution:* It will also 
eliminate any other specific formatting that you had previously applied, 
such as boldface, italics, color, etc. It will get you back to the 
original font of the style used in the master slide for the presentation.


But, based on my earlier experimentation, I don't think just changing 
the font will fix your problem. I created a slide presentation using 
Metropolis as you describe and converted it to PDF and sent it to both 
my Android phone and Apple iPad. On the Android, the PDF everything 
displayed fine. On the iPad, I got missing text and text cutoff as you 
described. I then changed the font on the Metropolis theme to a font I 
knew worked on the iPad in other situations and I got the same results 
(missing text and text lines cutoff). I'm convinced your problem is with 
the Metropolis theme itself. If I were you, I would select a different 
master slide theme and right click on it and then click "apply to all 
slides" and see if that helps.


Virgil


On 5/18/2021 11:36 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
No. On the right of the Impress window click the styles and formatting 
icon.
Click the style you used for the test and right click modify. On the 
font tab change the font to the one you want to use.


On 19/05/2021 14:16, Daffy Duck wrote:

So, on any particular slide, I go to format/style and change the font.
 It doesn't seem to do anything?

On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 09:29 +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote:

I just did a quick test, if you modify the style(s) you used and change
the font there it will change your presentation.

On 19/05/2021 05:38, Daffy Duck wrote:

I guess my question is, in that case, how would you easily change the
font for a 50 page presentation?

On Mon, 2021-05-17 at 19:37 -0400, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

Shot in the dark.

You can probably assume those fonts that currently work on Iphone 
with

Metropolis are available by default.

Find out the fonts that aren't working and substitute with other 
default

fonts that are used on Iphone.

Use only those font inside Metropolis.

Hope this helps.


On 5/17/21 4:27 PM, Daffy Duck wrote:

Seem to have the same result :(

I wonder if I just have to ditch metropolis?

On Mon, 2021-05-17 at 15:39 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

On 16 May 2021 at 18:27, Daffy Duck wrote:

Subject:    [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice impress
presentation - metropolis - exported as PDF, doesn't
display correctly on some devices
From:   Daffy Duck 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date sent:  Sun, 16 May 2021 18:27:18 -0500


I made a presentation with impress, used Metropolis theme.

I then exported it as PDF.

The problem is, some, when opening on such things as iphones, 
get the

text cut off, like the top part of the text is not showing, etc.

Others, until they turn the phone sideways, it doesn't display 
the text

correctly.

How do I make sure the text looks correct for all, or at least 
most,

users on different devices?

Note an expert, but something you might try.
Open file, and go to File/Properties/Fonts
There are two check boxes for embedding fonts.
Don't know if either or both would make a difference.
Might be some font that you used isn't included on these
devices and they are using a different font that throws
everything off?
Not sure why this isn't listed under the PDF options as a
choice?
Had a spreadsheet I exported that had this issue with
some fonts, and believe this fixed it? But it was long ago..
Worth a try. Worst thing, it makes no difference. File will
be bigger since fonts will be included.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice impress presentation - metropolis - exported as PDF, doesn't display correctly on some devices

2021-05-17 Thread Cuyahoga Falls
Your problem made me curious, so I played a bit. I took one of my slide 
presentations and applied the Metropolis master slide theme to all the 
slides. I then exported the file as PDF, HTML, and XHTML  and then sent 
them to my Samsung A51 smartphone.


The PDF displayed just fine on my Samsung phone. I then opened the file 
on my iPad and immediately saw what you are talking about. The text was 
lost on all my slide titles and on some slides, it was cut off. It only 
happened on the Apple device, and not on the Android device.


I then used my original LO file, which was NOT made with the Metropolis 
master slide theme. I used a master slide that I had created myself and 
it loaded just fine on my iPad.


It appears as if the problem is within the Metropolis master slide theme.

As some suggested using HTML, I tried exporting the file as both HTML 
and XHTML, and both were much more challenging and I received a wide 
variety of results depending on the various HTML variables I applied. 
However, despite all my experimentation, I didn't find any HTML export 
solution that gave me everything. Some resulted in a separate file for 
each slide, some resulted in a loss of slide structure and others 
resulted in a loss of graphics. In short, I wasn't satisfied with any of 
the HTML solutions.


If I were you, I would try a different master slide theme. The 
Metropolis clearly creates a problem, but I don't know why. It's not 
just a font issue. I changed the font on my Metropolis based 
presentation to Sitka Text (the font used in my self-created theme) and 
it was still getting cut off on the Apple device.


Virgil


On 5/17/2021 1:18 AM, Daffy Duck wrote:

It's an instructional presentation.  I want to distribute it as a
single file that anyone can open.

PDF really is the best option, but as mentioned, I'm having some issues
with the fonts on the iphone.

On Mon, 2021-05-17 at 00:25 -0400, John Kaufmann wrote:

Without knowing what you are exporting, I would not make a suggestion, but did 
you consider HTML?

On 2021-05-16 23:43, Daffy Duck wrote:

Yes, for distribution to a large amount of people, none of which use 
libreoffice.



On Sun, 2021-05-16 at 23:36 -0400, John Kaufmann wrote:

On 2021-05-16 19:27, Daffy Duck wrote:

I made a presentation with impress, used Metropolis theme.

I then exported it as PDF.

The problem is, some, when opening on such things as iphones, get the
text cut off, like the top part of the text is not showing, etc.

Others, until they turn the phone sideways, it doesn't display the text
correctly.

How do I make sure the text looks correct for all, or at least most,
users on different devices?

Don't use PDF. The whole idea of PDF is to represent a physical page; it is not 
intended to adapt to different screens of a large range of sizes. Is there some 
reason for exporting to PDF?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't edit a paragraph style anymore

2021-04-22 Thread Cuyahoga Falls
I'm using an older version of LO (6.3.4.2 on Windows), but you might 
look under "Tools", "Chapter Numbering." It is there that leading text 
to numbering is controlled, rather than in the paragraph styles.


I have found that MS-Word and LO deal with chapter/outline numbering 
differently and I have always gotten translation problems with automatic 
numbering when trying to save an LO document to a Word format (.DOC or 
.DOCX). I have found that (.DOC) is better behaved than (.DOCX). You 
might also try saving as an .RTF format. Another variable that affects 
the results is the program that will end up reading your exported file. 
Each program reads Word documents differently.


You can also experiment with the wealth of different ways LO handles 
numbering. There are many settings and many options within the settings. 
For example, you can follow your numbering with one or more spaces or 
with tab stops. That will make a difference when translating to 
different file formats. You can keep your heading text flush left or 
create hanging indents with the numbers outdented, which will also make 
a difference when saving to other formats. I have spent hours playing 
with the treasure chest of numbering options in LO... which may help 
explain why I've never finished my Great American Novel.


Virgil



On 22/04/21 5:09 pm, MR ZenWiz wrote:

I have written a number of novels using Writer, currently running LO
7.1 (on Xubuntu 20.04)..

All the chapter headers are modified 'header 3' style paragraphs with
numbering turned on and the word "Chapter" preceding the number.

Unfortunately, when I try to save this in either .DOC or .DOCX format,
the "Chapter #" piece is outdented so the actual title starts at the
left margin, which is not an acceptable format for publishers or even
editors to read/publish.  It also looks really screwy.

When I went in to edit the style, there is nowhere I can see/find such
that the "Chapter" part can be edited or removed.

How do I do that?

I tried looking in LO Help, but I'm not even sure how to query for
this feature that used to be there.

Any suggestions that work would be most welcome.

Thanks.

Mark





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer: Fake vs. Real Superscripts in advanced fonts

2020-12-07 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

On 12/6/2020 6:00 PM, Richard England wrote:


"cuyfalls",

I may not have your discerning eye, but using LO v7.0.3.1 on a Fedora 
v33 box, when I check the automatically converted superscript with one 
that is created manually by selecting the ordinal abbreviation and 
changing it to a superscript they look identical for me. I checked two 
different fonts. My OCD may not be as intense as yours.  :-)


Could be a difference in LO releases or operation system fonts (?).

~~R
StGeorge  


Richard

A lot depends on your OS and its available fonts. Not all fonts have 
advanced features built in. I have found that Windows 10 seems to have 
more fonts with the available features than my implementation of Puppy 
Linux. On Windows, I can use Sitka Text, Palatino Linotype and Linux 
Libertine G to achieve true and proper superscripts. I'm sure there are 
others; I just haven't checked them all yet. On my Puppy Linux system, 
it seems that only Linux Libertine G and Source Serif Pro have the 
available features. Having never used Fedora, I have no idea what you 
might have available to you. If you're at all interested in fonts, I 
would highly recommend obtaining Linux Libertine G and its sans serif 
companion Linux Biolinum G. They are available in the Ubuntu-based 
repositories, so I assume they would be in whatever Fedora uses.


To see what advanced features are available on your particular machine 
for a given font, from within LO, click on Format > Character > Font and 
then click on the "Features" button directly below the font-size drop 
down list. You will then see a dialog box that will show the available 
features for that font. Not all features are available for all fonts, so 
you'll have to scroll through each font and click "Features" to see 
which ones are available.


Your results will also depend on how you "manually" create a 
superscript. As with all things LO, there are multiple ways to skin the 
cat and not all of them produce the desired results.


There are at least four different ways to obtain superscript ordinals. 
The first three listed below will produce what I'm calling "fake" 
shrunken superscripts with lighter stroke weight and condensed spacing. 
Only the fourth will produce properly weighted and spaced superscripts.


*Option 1* (fake superscript) --  With the option to "format ordinal 
numbers suffixes" selected in Tools > AutoCorrect Options > Localized 
Options just type the number desired (1st, 2nd, etc.) and press spacebar 
and the ordinal will automatically be converted to a "fake" superscript.


*Option 2* (fake superscript) -- With the AutoCorrect option 
UNnselected, type the number desired. Then select the ordinal ("st," 
"nd," "th", etc.) and click on the superscript icon in the Formatting 
Toolbar (assuming that icon appears in your particular toolbar as they 
are customizable). This will also produce a "fake" superscript. This is 
simply a manual way of achieving the same result that the AutoCorrect 
option automatically obtains.


*Option 3* (fake superscript) -- Again with the AutoCorrect option 
UNselected, type the number desired and select the ordinal. Then click 
on Format > Character > Position > Superscript. This is just another way 
of achieving the same results as found in Options 1 and 2, and will 
produce the same "fake" superscript. However, with this option, you can 
manually control how much LO shrinks the superscript and how much it 
raises it above the surrounding text. At least, with this option, you 
can reduce the adverse effects of LO's default font shrinking.


*Option 4* (true superscript) -- This option depends upon the font you 
use. Many fonts will have access to true superscripts; others will not. 
In Windows, for this test, you can use Palatino Linotype or Sitka Text. 
In Linux, if you have it, try Source Serif Pro. For both OS's you can 
use Linux Libertine G (http://www.numbertext.org/linux/). As with the 
other options, type the desired ordinal number in the appropriate font 
and select the ordinal to be raised to a superscript. Then click on 
Format > Character > Font. Make sure your desired font is selected in 
the drop down list of fonts. Then, click on the Features button 
immediately below the font size drop down box. In this dialog, you'll 
see a host of advanced features available for the font you've chosen, 
and the features will be different for each font. With Sitka Text, 
Palatino Linotype (Windows) and Source Serif Pro (Linux), you'll have an 
option to select superscript. Click on that. You will then immediately 
see the font name change to something like "Sitka Text:frac=1". 
Everything after the : consists of a code implementing an advanced 
feature. The "frac=1" implements true fractions. (On my LO, this seems 
to be a default setting). The "sups" implements true superscripts with 
the "&" separating the codes. In addition to selecting features from the 
dialog box, you can manually type in the codes once you get to know 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer: Fake vs. Real Superscripts in advanced fonts

2020-12-07 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

Michael,

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look at it from that angle. It's such an 
obvious solution, I should have thought of it myself.


Virgil


On 12/6/2020 4:56 PM, Michael H wrote:

What you're looking for is the autocorrect autoreplacements table.

Tools --> Autocorrect --> Autocorrect Options.

Turn off the fake ordinals on the Localized options tab.

Then you can add entries in the Replace tab for the values you want, 
like 1st -> 1ˢᵗ.


There may be a way to introduce a character style method with this 
table, so that copy/paste won't produce weirdness like the ordinal 
glyphs might if the pasted field doesn't have ordinals in the active 
font, but this is where you'd do it.




On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 2:56 PM Cuyahoga Falls <mailto:cuyfa...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


I have a question dealing with one of the advanced features of
today's
fonts: superscripts.

Using LO, one can automatically get ordinal numbers using the
Autocorrect feature. Type 1st and the "st" is automatically
converted to
a superscript. However, the superscript is an artificially created
superscript where the "st" is shrunken and raised. The stroke
weight is
correspondingly reduced resulting in a superscript that looks
disproportionately light when compared to other letters.

Today's modern fonts have better technology. Many fonts have built in
superscript glyphs that are properly sized and weighted. LO can
access
these features graphically through the "features" option in the
Format >
Character dialog (or "Font" tab in paragraph or character style
dialogs). If I click on the "features" option, and select
"superscript,"
LO will insert an additional code in the font name that will call the
properly designed glyphs. Thus, for example, "Sitka Text" becomes
"Sitka
Text:sups" and the superscript inserted is properly sized and
weighted.
I can get the same effect by typing the appropriate code in the font
name box rather than selecting from the graphical menu of optional
"features" in the character style dialog.

The typographic benefit is that, by selecting the advanced
superscript
of the font, one gets a true superscript that is not just shrunken
letters with reduced stroke weight. The stroke weight remains
consistent
with the weight of the normally sized font. As an OCD challenged font
freak, I prefer using the true superscripts rather than the
artificially
produced shrunken superscripts, which brings me to my question.

As far as I can tell, LO's automatic insertion of ordinal
superscripts
using the Autocorrect function always inserts artificially
generated and
shrunken superscripts rather than the true properly proportioned
superscripts contained within advanced fonts. Is there a way of
directing the Autocorrect function to use proper superscripts if they
are available rather than always creating artificially shrunken
ordinal
superscripts?

It's a bit of a pain to have to manually reformat each ordinal
number to
use the proper superscript. Even if I use character styles, that is
still more labor intensive than simply typing "1st" and spacebar and
getting the desired effect. If I could direct the Autocorrect
function
to select true superscripts rather than artificially generated
superscripts, that would be great.

For what it's worth, I'm using LO 6.3.4.2 on Windows 10.

Thanks.

Virgil


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[libreoffice-users] Writer: Fake vs. Real Superscripts in advanced fonts

2020-12-06 Thread Cuyahoga Falls
I have a question dealing with one of the advanced features of today's 
fonts: superscripts.


Using LO, one can automatically get ordinal numbers using the 
Autocorrect feature. Type 1st and the "st" is automatically converted to 
a superscript. However, the superscript is an artificially created 
superscript where the "st" is shrunken and raised. The stroke weight is 
correspondingly reduced resulting in a superscript that looks 
disproportionately light when compared to other letters.


Today's modern fonts have better technology. Many fonts have built in 
superscript glyphs that are properly sized and weighted. LO can access 
these features graphically through the "features" option in the Format > 
Character dialog (or "Font" tab in paragraph or character style 
dialogs). If I click on the "features" option, and select "superscript," 
LO will insert an additional code in the font name that will call the 
properly designed glyphs. Thus, for example, "Sitka Text" becomes "Sitka 
Text:sups" and the superscript inserted is properly sized and weighted. 
I can get the same effect by typing the appropriate code in the font 
name box rather than selecting from the graphical menu of optional 
"features" in the character style dialog.


The typographic benefit is that, by selecting the advanced superscript 
of the font, one gets a true superscript that is not just shrunken 
letters with reduced stroke weight. The stroke weight remains consistent 
with the weight of the normally sized font. As an OCD challenged font 
freak, I prefer using the true superscripts rather than the artificially 
produced shrunken superscripts, which brings me to my question.


As far as I can tell, LO's automatic insertion of ordinal superscripts 
using the Autocorrect function always inserts artificially generated and 
shrunken superscripts rather than the true properly proportioned 
superscripts contained within advanced fonts. Is there a way of 
directing the Autocorrect function to use proper superscripts if they 
are available rather than always creating artificially shrunken ordinal 
superscripts?


It's a bit of a pain to have to manually reformat each ordinal number to 
use the proper superscript. Even if I use character styles, that is 
still more labor intensive than simply typing "1st" and spacebar and 
getting the desired effect. If I could direct the Autocorrect function 
to select true superscripts rather than artificially generated 
superscripts, that would be great.


For what it's worth, I'm using LO 6.3.4.2 on Windows 10.

Thanks.

Virgil


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Editing Impress Master Slides

2020-10-24 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

On 10/24/2020 11:12 AM, Michael H wrote:
I think what you want is "clear direct formatting." In LO 6.3 this is 
on the right-click menu for each object in a page, but it doesn't show 
up when you have multiple objects selected, and it doesn't show up 
when you select the page on the page browser.


It would be nice if 'clear local overrides' was programmable to a key 
in 'customize keyboard' but I don't see it there.


Thank you for the suggestion, but I don't think it works on my problem. 
When I right click on a text box on a slide and then click "Clear Direct 
Formatting" it clears the formatting of the text itself (boldface, 
italics, etc.), but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the geometry 
of the text box that holds the text. When I edit a master slide, usually 
what I am editing is the layout, meaning the placement and size of text 
boxes on the slide. When I apply the edited master slide to all slides, 
there are always some slides that don't accept the changes, while others 
do.


I have tested this on several different slide presentation files, 
starting from scratch in each case. I have been careful *not* to apply 
any direct changes to text box geometry on individual slides before 
editing the master slide. Even so, after editing the master slide, the 
changes are never applied to all slides in a presentation and clicking 
"Clear Direct Formatting" doesn't seem to help.


Virgil







On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Cuyahoga Falls <mailto:cuyfa...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


As a college professor, I use slide presentations daily. I have
used a
variety of solutions including LaTeX/Beamer, Markdown/Slidy, and
LO Impress.

Impress is obviously very full-featured and easy to use with its
WYSIWYG
user interface. However, I have been bothered by what appears to be a
strange behavior in Impress.

There are times when, after creating a slide presentation with 15
to 20
slides, I find I need to edit something globally, such as the size or
shape of a text box on the slides. To do this, I go into the
appropriate
Master Slide and make my changes. I then click to apply the Master
Slide
to all slides, but then when I go back into the slide presentation, I
find that my changes are only applied to some, but not all of the
slides. I then find myself having to go into each slide to reapply
the
same changes on a slide-by-slide basis that I had tried to apply
globally by changing the Master Slide.

I'm finding that, when working with Impress, I have to carefully
design
all of my slide formatting *before* composing my content, because
if I
have to change formatting later, I have no assurance that the changes
will take effect globally. This is obviously the opposite of the
behavior in LaTeX or Markdown, where the formatting can be
designed at
any point in the process with predictable results.

Has anyone else noticed this behavior? Is this a bug, or can anyone
suggest anything I might do differently?

I am currently using LO 6.3.4.2 on Windows 10, but I have noticed
this
behavior for years on a variety of LO versions on both Windows and
Linux.

Virgil



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[libreoffice-users] Editing Impress Master Slides

2020-10-22 Thread Cuyahoga Falls
As a college professor, I use slide presentations daily. I have used a 
variety of solutions including LaTeX/Beamer, Markdown/Slidy, and LO Impress.


Impress is obviously very full-featured and easy to use with its WYSIWYG 
user interface. However, I have been bothered by what appears to be a 
strange behavior in Impress.


There are times when, after creating a slide presentation with 15 to 20 
slides, I find I need to edit something globally, such as the size or 
shape of a text box on the slides. To do this, I go into the appropriate 
Master Slide and make my changes. I then click to apply the Master Slide 
to all slides, but then when I go back into the slide presentation, I 
find that my changes are only applied to some, but not all of the 
slides. I then find myself having to go into each slide to reapply the 
same changes on a slide-by-slide basis that I had tried to apply 
globally by changing the Master Slide.


I'm finding that, when working with Impress, I have to carefully design 
all of my slide formatting *before* composing my content, because if I 
have to change formatting later, I have no assurance that the changes 
will take effect globally. This is obviously the opposite of the 
behavior in LaTeX or Markdown, where the formatting can be designed at 
any point in the process with predictable results.


Has anyone else noticed this behavior? Is this a bug, or can anyone 
suggest anything I might do differently?


I am currently using LO 6.3.4.2 on Windows 10, but I have noticed this 
behavior for years on a variety of LO versions on both Windows and Linux.


Virgil



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Presentation - video record

2020-06-16 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

On 6/16/2020 2:14 PM, charles meyer wrote:

I'm trying to coordinate a presentation with Libre Presentation.

Can Presentation record screens on your laptop like MS Power Point?

If so, could you please share those steps?

Thank you.

Charles.



I don't think Presentation can do it natively. I use free third party 
programs to accomplish this. In Windows, I use a free program called 
ShareX, which works just fine.


You can also do it through Zoom and include your own picture in a corner 
of the screen through its screen share feature.


In Linux, I use Kazam.

Virgil


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Document hierarchy and Indexing [as applied to LO Guides]

2020-06-16 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

On 6/16/2020 3:54 AM, John Kaufmann wrote:

Hi Robert,

On 2020-06-16 03:38, Robert Großkopf wrote:

...
newbies will create all content in one document. So it is no problem 
to set


Level 1 ~ Heading 1
Level 2 ~ Heading 2
Level 3 ~ Heading 3

But if there are separate document for each chapter of a guide you
couldn't get a well formed Master Document for a guide. Heading 1 must
be there in Level 2 and the Title of the separate Documents must be in
Level 1.

Hope the global documents have been created the same way, as, for
example, the German Base Handbuch.


Thanks for that. I knew there must be something I was not seeing, and 
will consider the implications of Master Document construction. (Will 
post again when I have thought it through.)


In any case, though, shouldn't the same construction logic apply to 
all LO Guides?


Regards,
John



This thread reminds me that LO's greatest advantage is that the user has 
complete control over everything...


And LO's greatest drawback is that the user has complete control over 
everything...


Virgil


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font colors on Windows vs. Linux

2020-03-02 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

On 3/2/2020 1:19 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi all.
When comparing the palettes can you please advise the top row
description, I find this varies.
i.e. on my linux machine top row is greys graded light to dark, left to
right. Are all your palettes of 12 columns similar colour arrangement.
steve.


Since I started this, let me echo Heiko's reference to this site, 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/04/10/new-standard-color-palette/


In it you will see that color palettes have been evolving over the years 
with LO. It shows three different palettes that have been used as 
"standard" in the past five years or so. You'll find yours with gray 
shaded light to dark from left to right and others with gray shaded dark 
to light from left to right.


I also learned that the palette that a given LO installation uses is 
somehow stored in the user profile. By renaming the profile on my older 
Linux LO installation, it updated my standard palette to match that on 
my newer Windows LO installation.


That's not necessarily a great solution for me as I now have dozens of 
Impress presentations with colors that are no longer found on the new 
standard palette, not to mention that renaming the user profile always 
results in the loss of other customization.


Virgil


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font colors on Windows vs. Linux

2020-03-02 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

I stand corrected.

I had previously renamed the user profile on my Windows machine, without 
effect. It never occurred to me to rename the user profile on my Linux 
machine.


I just went in and renamed the user profile on my Linux machine, and 
that, in fact, did have the effect of calling up the newer color 
palette. So now, my Windows and Linux installations of LO have the same 
"standard" color palette.


My apologies for wasting everybody's time.

Virgil


My apologies for having not tried that earlier. I had always thought 
that my problem was with my Windows installation


On 3/2/2020 8:45 AM, Heiko Tietze wrote:

It might help to clean the user profile, see 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile. Background to the color 
palette update can be found here 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/12/30/new-color-palettes-in-libreoffice/
 and there 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/04/10/new-standard-color-palette/.

Cheers,
Heiko

PS: Colors are stored as RGB values in documents, there must not be any 
difference between $FF (Red) on Linux vs. Windows or between different 
versions.

On 02.03.20 12:32, Philip Jackson wrote:

I have never had much use for the color palettes other than the occasional use 
of red for the odd word in Writer. So this thread provoked a bit of curiosity 
to check on my machines.

My W10 box has LO installed from the LO website - recently updated to 6.3.5.2 
and the standard color palette is 12 columns by 10 rows. The drop down lists 8 
palettes.

My UbuntuStudio box shows 2 standard palettes (in a drop down list of 9 
palettes) :
- one with 12 cols by 14 rows with 7 more colors on the 15th row.
- the other standard palette has 12 cols by 10 rows

For years, I have used the Ubuntu distribution of LO but recently I changed to 
the PPA which purports to maintain the latest LO stable release. It recently 
updated my copy to 6.3.5.2.

I imagine the color palette situation on my Ubuntu box reflects the history of 
my LO installations from Ubuntu over the years. Although I am surprised that 
two palettes with the same name can exist in the drop down lists.

Philip

On 01/03/2020 21:49, Dan Lewis wrote:

I use the Ubuntu O/S; LibreOffice 6.3.5.1 and 6.4.1.1 are from the LO website. 
In both cases, the standard pallet contains 12 columns and 10 rows.

Dan

On 3/1/20 2:36 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

I notice the same thing, but my linux version is 6.3 from the openSUSE
repository and not the LO website and the win 10 install is 6.4 so I
could not say that that hasn't caused the difference. I have noticed the
palettes changing over time and a while back I created my own custom
palette (including company branding colours) so I could have consistency.
steve

On 02/03/2020 07:19, Cuyahoga Falls wrote:

I have two laptops running LibreOffice. One is a Sony Vaio with LO
6.0.6.x and Linux Mint 18. The other is a Lenovo with LO 6.0.7.x and
Windows 10.

I recently opened an Impress Presentation on my Windows machine to
work on. At one point, I wanted to change the color of my font on one
of my slides. I went to the font color icon on the toolbar and clicked
the down arrow. I immediately noticed that the selection of available
colors was different that that available on my Linux computer.

To be more specific, if I click on the font color icon on the Windows
computer, I get a selection of available colors arranged in 12 columns
by 10 rows. For this example, I am using the colors available in the
palette called "standard." The top row shows 12 shades of gray. In the
second row, the color choices are "Yellow," "Gold," "Orange," "Brick,"
"Red," "Magenta," "Purple," "Indigo," "Blue," "Teal," "Green," and
"Lime." Then under each color column are boxes called Light  or
Dark  followed by a number. So, for example, if I look at the
"Blue" column, the top color is represented simply as "Blue." Below it
are color boxes called "Light Blue 4," Light Blue 3," and so on down
to "Light Blue 1," then followed by "Dark Blue 1," up to "Dark Blue
4." Each column is similarly arranged under its respective color.

On my Linux computer, the "standard" palette consists of 12 columns by
15 rows of colors. The color row below the row of gray, is represented
by the colors, "Yellow," "Orange," "Red," "Pink," "Magenta," "Purple,"
"Blue," "Sky Blue," "Cyan," "Turquoise," "Green," and "Yellow Green."
Then below each main color are boxes ranging from  1 to 
9 with no light or dark designations.

In short, the "standard" font color palette on LO in Windows is
different from the "standard" palette on LO in Linux Mint. Moreover,
the color re

Re: [libreoffice-users] Font colors on Windows vs. Linux

2020-03-02 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

On 3/2/2020 8:45 AM, Heiko Tietze wrote:

It might help to clean the user profile, see 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile. Background to the color 
palette update can be found here 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/12/30/new-color-palettes-in-libreoffice/
 and there 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/04/10/new-standard-color-palette/.

Cheers,
Heiko

PS: Colors are stored as RGB values in documents, there must not be any 
difference between $FF (Red) on Linux vs. Windows or between different 
versions.


Thank you for the suggestion and links. As to the user profile, I did 
clean it by renaming it before I posted my original message. It had no 
effect.


The links are informative. They help me understand that this whole color 
palette issue is a fluid one. I notice, however, that the links discuss 
color palette changes that were made in the days of LO 4.x and LO 5.x. 
Both of my installations, whether Windows or Linux, are in the LO 6.x 
range. For example, according to your links, the standard color palette 
on my Linux LO 6.0.6 is very similar to that used in LO 4.3 whereas the 
standard palette used on my Windows LO 6.3.4 is most similar to that 
used in LO 5.4. I would think that, by now, there would be greater 
uniformity between the Windows and Linux versions of LO in the same 
release range.


Virgil


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font colors on Windows vs. Linux

2020-03-02 Thread Cuyahoga Falls

On 3/2/2020 6:32 AM, Philip Jackson wrote:

...

I imagine the color palette situation on my Ubuntu box reflects the 
history of my LO installations from Ubuntu over the years. Although I 
am surprised that two palettes with the same name can exist in the 
drop down lists.


That was my surprise as well, which prompted my original post. I teach 
at a local college as well as my church and always use slide 
presentations for my classes. My Windows box is newer with a nice long 
battery life for teaching a class without having to plug things in. My 
Linux laptop is old and tired, so I tend to use the Windows machine more 
often. However, for a reason I haven't yet figured out, it doesn't work 
well with my church's Epson projector. The projector keeps resetting 
itself in the middle of a presentation, so, I still use my Linux 
computer to show my slide presentations at church.


What this means is that I create and edit my slides on my Windows 
computer and then transfer them over to the Linux computer for showing 
in church. Since I can never leave things alone, I am constantly doing 
final editing on the Linux computer, which is how I discovered the 
difference in color palettes. I use blue and red font coloring for 
highlighting and I was surprised to find out that "Blue" on my Windows 
LO installation is different than "Blue" on my Linux LO installation, 
and that the "standard" palette on Windows LO doesn't include "Blue 4," 
which is what I use on Linux LO. The result is that colored text on a 
slide created in Windows LO is a different shade than colored text on a 
slide edited in Linux LO.


I have to believe that, having different color resources on the 
different versions of LO would make life frustrating for people sharing 
documents between Windows and Linux computers.


Part of me was wondering if this is something dictated at the level of 
the operating system. However, because I'm constantly searching for 
different/better solutions, I also use LyX/LaTeX/Beamer and 
RMarkdown/Slidy to create slide presentations, and I haven't noticed any 
differences in colors between my Windows and Linux installations of 
those respective respective systems.


Virgil


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[libreoffice-users] Font colors on Windows vs. Linux

2020-03-01 Thread Cuyahoga Falls
I have two laptops running LibreOffice. One is a Sony Vaio with LO 
6.0.6.x and Linux Mint 18. The other is a Lenovo with LO 6.0.7.x and 
Windows 10.


I recently opened an Impress Presentation on my Windows machine to work 
on. At one point, I wanted to change the color of my font on one of my 
slides. I went to the font color icon on the toolbar and clicked the 
down arrow. I immediately noticed that the selection of available colors 
was different that that available on my Linux computer.


To be more specific, if I click on the font color icon on the Windows 
computer, I get a selection of available colors arranged in 12 columns 
by 10 rows. For this example, I am using the colors available in the 
palette called "standard." The top row shows 12 shades of gray. In the 
second row, the color choices are "Yellow," "Gold," "Orange," "Brick," 
"Red," "Magenta," "Purple," "Indigo," "Blue," "Teal," "Green," and 
"Lime." Then under each color column are boxes called Light  or 
Dark  followed by a number. So, for example, if I look at the 
"Blue" column, the top color is represented simply as "Blue." Below it 
are color boxes called "Light Blue 4," Light Blue 3," and so on down to 
"Light Blue 1," then followed by "Dark Blue 1," up to "Dark Blue 4." 
Each column is similarly arranged under its respective color.


On my Linux computer, the "standard" palette consists of 12 columns by 
15 rows of colors. The color row below the row of gray, is represented 
by the colors, "Yellow," "Orange," "Red," "Pink," "Magenta," "Purple," 
"Blue," "Sky Blue," "Cyan," "Turquoise," "Green," and "Yellow Green." 
Then below each main color are boxes ranging from  1 to  9 
with no light or dark designations.


In short, the "standard" font color palette on LO in Windows is 
different from the "standard" palette on LO in Linux Mint. Moreover, the 
color represented as "Blue" on my Windows machine is decidedly different 
than the color called "Blue" on the Linux machine.


I must say I have been using both computers for over a year now and I 
often share LO files between the two computers. It was only recently -- 
in the past week -- that I noticed the difference in standard color 
palettes. I could have sworn that the two palettes were the same in the 
past, but I can't think of anything I could have done to cause the 
Windows LO "standard" color palette to suddenly change.


In an attempt to "fix" things, I downloaded and installed LO 6.3.4.2 to 
my Windows computer, and also renamed my user profile. Neither had any 
effect on the way the "standard" font-color is represented.


I know this is longer than anyone would like, but if anyone can confirm 
similar behavior on their Windows vs. Linux installations of LO, or 
recommend any action, I would appreciate it.


Virgil


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