Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,

2014-04-06 Thread James Knott
Jim Seymour wrote:
 No, they didn't.  Early Apple PCs ran the MOS Technologies (later:
 Mostek) 6502.  CP/M never ran on anything but the Intel 8080 and
 Zilog Z80. (And only on the latter because it was a superset of the
 former.) Eventually, Kildall realized the 8-bit processors' days were
 numbered (duh) and created CP/M-86, but, by then, it was way, way too
 late.

There was a Z80 CP/M card available for Apple computers that was made by
Microsoft.  There were also clones of that card available.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] RE : Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,

2014-04-06 Thread James Knott
Jim Seymour wrote:
 Nor was CP/M-86 vapourware.  It was short-lived, because Kildall was
 way too late to the game, but it did exist.  IIRC, the DEC Rainbow
 dual-booted CP/M-86 and DOS?

CP/M-86 was also one of the 3 operating systems that were initially
available with the IBM PC.  The third was called (IIRC) pCode or
something like that.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,

2014-04-06 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 Comparing to this, MS Word which used easy and open file format was a
 clear winner. 

Gee...   I coulda sworn April 1st was last week.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,

2014-04-05 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 On 04/04/2014 05:56 PM, CVAlkan wrote:
 Not sure if my recollections are correct, but I don't believe either DOS
 (before 2.x) or the DOS version of Word were written by Microsoft. I
 seem to
 recall that both were purchased and re-branded.

DOS was bought from Seattle Computer Products and it was originally
intended to be a hardware test system, while waiting for CP/M-86, rather
than a proper OS.
 Do not remember 8 inch ones.  I remember 10 inch, and then the 5.x
 inch ones. [single sided and then double sided]


The first floppies, as invented by IBM, were 8.  There never were 10
floppies.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird - too many Address Books

2014-04-04 Thread James Knott
Scott Castaline wrote:
 I've always used as my first entry in each address book @@@. That
 seems to still work as far as I can tell. My understanding is that the
 bots can't seem to deal with that entry or it'll ignore the rest once
 it encounters it.

Where are those bots running?  Is this a Windows thing?  I run Linux
on my computers.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Won't print portrait

2014-04-03 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 What printer are you using?  And what printer driver?  PDF or
 Postscript lever 1, 2, or 3?

 Which version was the last it worked?  The same and now it does not work?
 If that is the case, it may be a problem with the config users files.

I don't recall how long ago, as it's been a while since I printed an
envelope.  However, it's a Dell 1110 with the Dell 1110 Foomatic/gdi
drivers.  However, further testing reveals it may be a printer problem,
as I can print to PDF properly. 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO for iPad, big deal or big yawn

2014-04-02 Thread James Knott
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
 Le 01/04/2014 17:01, Tom Davies a écrit :
 Hi :)
 A ZdNet article titled (obviously) Office for iPad, big deal or big
 yawn allows people to vote and so far the big yawn side is winning.
  HoooRaaah! ;)  The big yawn side appears to largely be supporting
 OpenSource.

 http://www.zdnet.com/debate/office-for-ipad-big-deal-or-big-yawn/10137467/

 I haven't got any smartphone, so I'm just wondering: what use for office
 software on such a small screen as a smartphone one? Is the software
 usable at all?


It's more for tablets, with their larger screens and even keyboards. 
However, there's no reason why an app wouldn't run on a phone, unless
specifically configured not to.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MSO for iPad, big deal or big yawn

2014-04-01 Thread James Knott
Pedro wrote:
 Maybe Apple fanboys don't care...

 The problem (for LibreOffice and other Open Source office projects) is that
 they are also offering it for free for the Android platform

 http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37434-microsoft-office-for-iphone-and-android-now-completely-free/

 If until now the only reasonable free option for the Android platform was
 Kingsoft Office (which is quite good but from an unknown company), with
 Microsoft the game has changed completely.

 It's a shame none of the Open Source office's has the manpower to build an
 Android version. Now it's too late ;)



There is AndrOpen Office.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice

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Re: [libreoffice-users] direct formatting and styles

2014-03-28 Thread James Knott
Virgil Arrington wrote:
 At the risk of beating a horse to death, today I stumbled on an online
 rant against MS-Word.

The first word processor I used, as opposed to line oriented text
editors, was the one that came with VAX VMS on the VAX 11/780.  Later, I
used PC-Write, on DOS, and then Describe, on OS/2, at home and Wordstar
2000 at work.  Fortunately, I've never been in a position at work where
I couldn't install OpenOffice or LibreOffice, to avoid using Word.  When
I was at IBM, I also used Lotus Smart Suite.  I have also used Word
Perfect 5.2, but preferred Wordstar 2000.

When I set up computers these days, I always install OpenOffice and/or
LibreOffice.  On Windows systems, I also include the Microsoft viewers. 
I haven't installed Microsoft Office anywhere, since the days of Word 6.

I have long paid attention to the dirty tricks MS has used to force
market share.  As a result, I always try to promote alternatives.  I run
Linux on my home computers, previously OS/2.  I only have one computer,
my notebook, that has Windows installed, but that's only because it came
with it.  It spends most of it's time running Linux.


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[libreoffice-users] Can't change digital certificate folder.

2014-03-24 Thread James Knott
I'm trying to configure LibreOffice to use digital certificates for
signing documents.  Under OptionsSecurity, There's a Certificate
button, which opens a panel for configuring where the certificate is
located.  However, it appears to be impossible to change that location. 
After clicking OK and restarting LO, as required, it's back to the
original setting.  Is it not possible to change this?

tnx jk


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[libreoffice-users] Font size in PDF form

2014-03-17 Thread James Knott
I'm trying to fill in the info in a form provided in PDF format.  While
I can open it in Draw and type in the info, the font is too large for
the area.  Is there any way that I can change the overall font size,
instead of having to do it in each field?  I have tried the Format 
Character method, but that only affects the current field and not the
whole document.

tnx jk

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font size in PDF form

2014-03-17 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Err,
 Ctrl A = select all?

 Alternatively is each field use the same style name?  Could you just
 modify the style?
 Regards from

Ctl-A affects the entire document, not just the boxes I enter text into.

How do you change font size in styles?  I can open the Styles toolbar,
but don't see any way to change the font size.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thunderbird - too many Address Books

2014-03-14 Thread James Knott
Nino Novak wrote:
 Am 14.03.2014 14:00, schrieb Custfold:
 I'm getting a bit annoyed at having my address book split between
 Personal Address Book and Collected Addresses, with an attempt at
 getting a Master Combined address book not too successful

 Can someone tell me the sequence/commands to combine the disparate
 collections under a single umbrella?

 At some stage I'll also need to bring over an Evolution address list -
 big file.
 Interesting question/need.

 The only idea I have is to have a common master address database which
 in turn is then used by the different (mail) applications.

 It might also be possible to combine the different back ends into one
 front end. But not without major programming efforts, as far as I can
 judge. Curious what other people think.

 However, in a first effort, I'd try to get rid of the Collected
 Addresses data in Thunderbird by merging them into my Personal
 Addressbook and accordingly changing the destination under Preferences 
 Composition  Addressing - Automatically add ...
 But it's only a workaround.

Problem is, that collected address book contains everyone you've sent an
email to.  Do you really want all them in your main address book?  Just
add the people you want to your main book and occasionally clear out the
collected addresses.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] lost money

2014-03-03 Thread James Knott
myfmh...@ybb.ne.jp wrote:
 I donated Japanese yen through MasterCard on 3 Mar. 2014 to get LIBREOFFICE 
 by your internet form ,but the softwear could not downloaded. 

 Please send me how to download.


You don't have to pay to download LibreOffice.  It's always free from
www.libreoffice.org, where you can find the Japanese version.
www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=rpm-x86_64lang=javersion=4.2.1

As I said, you don't have to pay, but donations are always appreciated. 
Also, make sure you go to the correct site.  There may be some who
charge for something that's free.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-26 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 Now once we have LO for Android and Mac i devices,

There is a version of OpenOffice for Android now available.  That will
certainly meet your requirements for working with ODF on a tablet,
though you'll want one with a large display.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-26 Thread James Knott
Jim Seymour wrote:
 I agree, re: The role of I.T.  I.T. is not an end, but a means.

   ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-26 Thread James Knott
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 10:08 -0500, James Knott wrote:

 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice

 That doesn't work on my Kindle - tried it and kept getting an error
 message about not being able to download resources...



That would be a Kindle problem then.  It installed fine on my Nexus 7
tablet.  There is also an OpenOffice document viewer available.

A friend of mine has similar issues with her Kobo book reader.  It's a
customized Android tablet that can't install many apps.  I would
recommend people buy proper tablets than Android book readers, even if
though they may be cheaper.  Android tablets are also available with
bigger displays than book readers, which make them more useful for some
things.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-26 Thread James Knott
James E Lang wrote:
 I wish I could afford to purchase a 10 Android tablet. As it stands I am 
 running this app on my 4.1 Motorola Atrix phone and though it's imperfect I 
 am thrilled to be able to do so. Some day …   :-)

I have a Nexus 7 tablet and Nexus 5 phone.  There are certainly things I
can do on my phone, but prefer to do on my tablet, due to the larger
display.  There are also things I do on my tablet that would be better
on a larger one.  However, regular Android devices should allow you to
run all apps, regardless of whether the display size is really the
best.  On the other hand, ereader tablets often won't let you even
install or run something you need.  There are also some low price
tablets that limit your options.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-26 Thread James Knott
Jonathon wrote:
 Two major issues with tablets as desktop/laptop replacements, is that they 
 are neither multi-tasking, nor multi-user.

Later versions of Android support multiple users.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-25 Thread James Knott
Virgil Arrington wrote:
 A few years ago, most lawyers in the U.S. used WordPerfect, and they
 really liked it. It had some features that were very suitable for the
 law office. However, most of their corporate clients were using Word.
 (Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft). Over time, law offices
 began migrating to Word, not because they liked the program better,
 but because they needed file compatibility with their clients. Now,
 WordPerfect is all but an afterthought.

After one of one of the anti-trust cases, Microsoft received a large
document in WP format.  They had to go out and buy a copy of Word
Perfect, to read that document.  ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-25 Thread James Knott
Doug wrote:
 but when I really
 need to get down and dirty, WP is the place to be. 

Many years ago, I occasionally had to use WP at work.  I much preferred
Wordstar 2000.  Back then I was using PC-Write at home.  ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-23 Thread James Knott
Stephan Weinberger wrote:
 Maybe i'm not going to make friends, but OOXML strict actually *is* an open
 standard. The real problem is, that MS-Office until 2013 was not capable of
 creating strict files, but wrote OOXML transitional instead (which may -
 and as a matter of fact always did - contain proprietary stuff). 
 So almost all OOXML files out in the wild today are in fact not 'real' OOXML
 but just proprietary, legacy office formats encoded in an XML-structure.

IIRC, that strict OOXML, as rammed through ISO, contains a lot of
proprietary blobs.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Has anyone seem this 4.0 article, yet?

2014-02-18 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 I just received an e-newsletter that referred to this article.

I just read that article.  We must get the same newsletter.  :-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users]

2014-02-13 Thread James Knott
maddie10...@gmail.com wrote:
 are people with libreoffice able to have an account that they can save work 
 to so that they don't have to use the same computer all the time.

 I am a middle school student and I am doing this from a home computer and I 
 want to be able to access my spreadsheets from my school computers and ipads 

If I understand you correctly, this isn't a question about LO, but about
remotely accessing your data.  Applications such as LO store the files
in your own folder on your computer.  If you want to access them from
another device, you need some method to access those files.  This is
easy enough on your own network, but from school you might need to save
your files on the cloud, using something like Dropbox or Google Drive.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Scam????

2014-02-08 Thread James Knott
Earl Beavers wrote:
 Have I been scammed? I agreed to a $5 charge but the program would not 
 download or react in any way.

 I feel like a dunce.

I assume you downloaded from somewhere other than www.libreoffice.org. 
If so, you may have been scammed, or at least paid when you didn't have
to.   While LibreOffice will happily accept donations, they're not required.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread James Knott
Mark LaPierre wrote:
 MS is lost in the concept of making all interfaces look the same on
 Windows Phone, Surface, and desktop.  MS Office 2013 totally ignores the
 setting and scheme that you have on your desktop.  I'm talking serious
 eye strain.  People have been complaining about it for more than a year
 but MS says they have no plans to change it.


I guess they forgot that some people, with poor vision, need high
contrast to see things.  My vision is fine, but I find some people have
no concept of making things readable.  For example I have seen grey text
on light blue background that was a real struggle to read.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] mail format

2014-01-17 Thread James Knott
Doug wrote:
 Is there a way to make Libre save in MS Word 1997-2003 .doc format as
 a default?
 If so, how?
 Using version 4.1.
 Thanx--doug


Yes, click on ToolsOptionsLoad/SaveGeneral and make your selection there.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import into a Template

2014-01-12 Thread James Knott
Tinkerer wrote:
 I have downloaded a c,s.v file from my Bank and created a Template for the
 Bank listing.
 I can load the Bank file into a new Spreadsheet and I then have to reformat
 it.
 Why can I not Import it into the Template, or is there another way?



Templates are used to create documents in a standardized way.  You're
not supposed to write to them.  What you should be able to do is create
a custom spreadsheet template for that bank info then create a new
document and import the data into it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Import into a Template

2014-01-12 Thread James Knott
Tinkerer wrote:
 That is exactly what I am trying to do.
 I open the CSV Template then I go to Insert Sheet from File  OK and it
 creates another sheet either before or after the sheet from the Template.
 I finish up with a two sheet file, one sheet Formatted and the other sheet
 with the Bank info.
 What I want is a straight Import to wherever I have put the cursor.
 No complicated choices either. 

Create your document first from the template, then insert the data. 
This is the way templates work.  For example, I have a standard form
that I use to create letters.  I started by creating a new document from
the default template, made my changes and then saved as my Letter
template.  Now, when I want to create a letter, I make a new document
from that template and go from there.  You do not add data to a
template, but you can create a new one by creating a document the way
you want and then save that as your new template.  Then use that
template to make a new document.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] immediate rename of command line converted documents

2014-01-09 Thread James Knott
e-letter wrote:
 If a m$ document is stored on a public web server (E.g.
 http://path.to.document.com/file.doc), is it possible to change
 directly the name of the converted file which is created in the local
 directory? Otherwise, 'mv' can be used after conversion, but it would
 be able to rename within the LO command options, something like:

 libreoffice -convert-to odt http://path.to.document.com/file.doc
 -outdir ~/tmp -rename-to newfilename.odt


Once you have a document loaded into LO, you can use Save as to change
the name and even format.

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Re: Formats failed marketing, was: Fwd: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-12-18 Thread James Knott
tk wrote:
 There is AndroidOpenOffice.

I tried that a while ago, on my Nexus 7, and it didn't work very well. 
I uninstalled it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-12-02 Thread James Knott
Robert Holtzman wrote:
 Linux is a clone of UNIX, an epitome of a proprietary operating system.
 Wrong yet again, oh trolling one. Linux was derived from minix. 


Actually, Linux created Linux in part because he found Minix so
limiting.  However, the goal of both was a Unix like environment.  The
interesting thing is that many of the GNU apps, developed for Linux,
have found their way to the various commercial Unixes.

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Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-12-01 Thread James Knott
Virgil Arrington wrote:
 So, my computer has Office (Starter version), LO *and* WordPerfect, so
 I can talk to just about anybody.

No PC-Write???  ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-30 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 Just think about it: there was NOT A SINGLE successful FOSS-created
 project so far.

Ever hear of Linux?  Besides those of us who use it on our desktops, it
also runs about 95% of the super computers, most of the Internet (along
with Apache), including the likes of Google, Yahoo and more, Android
smart phones, embedded in appliances such as TVs, Bluray players etc.
and it's the OS used on the space station.

Why do you keep trying to prove how ignorant you are?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-30 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 Because people buy computers to work, not to tinker with.

There are many who don't need Windows but are forced to pay for it with
a computer.  Take a look at the strong arm tactics MS has used over the
years to see how they got to this point.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-30 Thread James Knott
M. Fioretti wrote:
 *Big* charities often have the problems that Jonathon said. Very small
 organizations, instead, need to spend zero time/money on
 maintaining/re-learning the software they have to use, because it
 would be all resources subtracted to working in the streets with the
 people they assist. That's why they stick to proprietary software in
 general, not just MSO.

You've just described why it's better to move from older versions of MS
Office to LO or OO than to have to learn how to use the ribbon etc.

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Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-30 Thread James Knott
Peter West wrote:
 If people writing documents on their private computers had been obliged to 
 but a copy of MS Office, alternatives would have been embraced much more 
 enthusiastically.

FWIW, several years ago, I bought a copy of PC-Write for DOS.  It was
shareware, but if you paid for it, they sent a manual.  I might still
have that manual here somewhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC-Write

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-30 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 James Knott  сообщил(а) в новостях
 следующее:529918d1.30...@rogers.com...

 ...and then hold [created documents]
 hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office.

 There is immense number of software capable import DOC files, due to
 their format being virtually unchanged since 1997 or 2007. Including
 the Word Viewer, of course.



The problem is so many are not aware of alternatives.  If they want to
access their documents, they think they have to pay MS.  I do what I can
to educate them.  BTW, several years ago, I worked for a company that
used OpenOfice.  However, I suspect it was because they were too cheap
to pay for MS Office.  ;-)


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Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-30 Thread James Knott
James Knott wrote:
 FWIW, several years ago, I bought a copy of PC-Write for DOS.  It was
 shareware, but if you paid for it, they sent a manual.  I might still
 have that manual here somewhere.

Found it.  Now, I wonder if PC-Write is available on the web somewhere.  ;-)

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Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
 Also on newer machines MS have started running a cunning scheme
 whereby people get to use a trial version of MS Office which then
 stops working after a month or so.  In order to keep on using it
 people have to pay an extra bit.

That happened to a friend of mine about 3 years ago.  She's now running
OpenOffice.


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Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread James Knott
John Meyer wrote:
 I didn't know we considered trialware cunning.

They let people create  edit documents for a while and then hold them
hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office.

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Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

2013-11-29 Thread James Knott
Paolo Debortoli wrote:
 think microsoft did the same politics with charities and schools:  discounted 
 prices (but they are still stealing money somehow...)

One thing MS got caught doing was providing free software to charities
and then claiming full retail value as a tax deduction.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Resale Rights

2013-11-24 Thread James Knott
Alfie Mc wrote:
 Hi im a big fan of your free software and wondered if i could attain resale 
 rights thus allowing me to distribute your product within the uk on cd roms 
 which will definitely promote your product/company.

As I understand it, there are no resale rights.  You are free to
distribute LibreOffice and charge a nominal fee for a CD.  OpenOffice
had details for those wanting to do similar, but I don't see anything
about it on the LibreOffice site.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request - Categories for special characters

2013-11-22 Thread James Knott
Mark Bourne wrote:
 I always think of # as being a sharp sign.

 The musical sharp symbol is slightly different: ♯

Yeah, it is a bit flat to be a sharp sign. ;-)

I've always known it as a number sign.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread James Knott
josephine mcdonald wrote:
 hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble 
 downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a donation??   
   can you help?

You don''t have to make a donation to download, though it's certainly
appreciated.  Where are you trying to download from?  I just tried
www.libreoffice.org and the only mention of donation was at the bottom
of the first page.  I was able to go directly to the download page
without having to make any donation.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing Apache OO on same distro as LO - for alternate use

2013-11-18 Thread James Knott
john herron wrote:
 Can Apache OO be installed alongside LO (to run at different times)?

Both can be installed and even run at the same time.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] presentation question

2013-11-13 Thread James Knott
On 11/12/2013 11:08 PM, June Newman wrote:
 I have libreoffice installed on a mac with os x 10.8.  If I prepare a 
 presentation and put it on a flash drive, will it play on a windows computer. 
  I don't have the right adapter to connect to a digital projector, and need 
 to use a windows laptop. 


A presentation created in LibreOffice will work on any other computer,
Mac, Windows or Linux, with LibreOffice.  It might also work with recent
versions of MS Office.  You can also get portable versions of
LibreOffice which can be installed on the flash drive for use with
Windows computers that don't have it installed.
http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable

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Re: [libreoffice-users] presentation question

2013-11-13 Thread James Knott
June, it's not necessary to cc to anyone.  If you send to the list, we
will see your message.


On 11/13/2013 08:53 AM, June Newman wrote:


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Subject: DRM books

2013-11-10 Thread James Knott
Daniel wrote:
 Is there an extension in LO in order to read DRM ebooks?

Why would you want to read ebooks in an office suite, when there are
already many apps for that task?

BTW, other than library books, I try to avoid DRM.  I don't have a
single DRM book that I own a copy of.  The books I buy, I get from
O'Reilly, which are DRM free.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Wordstar

2013-11-06 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 So you've just made that malarkey up? Wow.

He is correct in saying MS did a lot of things to cripple competition. 
That AARD code was one.  They also used hidden API as was revealed when
Borland sued them and more.  They have a very long history of playing
dirty, up to and including extortion.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Wordstar

2013-11-06 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 James Knott:

 That AARD code was one.  They also used hidden API as was revealed when
 Borland sued them and more.

 'AARD code' was not in any retail version of Windows. It is fake.




Well, you 'd better thel that to the guys at DR-DOS and also those in
the antitrust case, as that was one of the things shown in it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Wordstar

2013-11-04 Thread James Knott
Marc Grober wrote:
 And I wish I was still able to use wordstar ;-)

I used to use Wordstar 2000 at work.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-03 Thread James Knott
Valter Mura wrote:
 Seems to be the same story as Netscape vs. Internet Exploder... oops 
 Explorer...

MS was also late to the game for the Internet.  Apparenly BG didn't
think much of it.  IIRC, they bought another app to make IE.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft
 Office?

 Microsoft mostly.

IIRC, they bought what became Excel and I believe Word too, from other
companies.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread James Knott
Virgil Arrington wrote:
 StarOffice users are Linux users? . . . .
 I have never seen StarOffice available for Linux.  StarOffice was a MS
 OS package not a Linux package, when it first came out, so StarOffice
 audience was a Windows audience and not Linux.  Actually OOo, AOO,
 and LO may have its roots in StarOffice, but they are not StarOffice by
 any means. 

StarOffice was not from MS.  It was originally written for CP/M on the
Z80, by a guy who started StarDivision.  I first came across it on
OS/2.  StarDivision was bought by Sun, who kept StarOffice as the
commercial version of the open source OpenOffice.  LibreOffice was
created from OpenOffice, when Oracle, after buying Sun, couldn't decide
what to do with StarOffice and OpenOffice.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread James Knott
baldwin linguas wrote:
 I can remember writing college papers with Clarisworks.
 And there was Wordperfect from Corel.
 Although, I'm uncertain whether these were before or after MSOffice.
 I saw them both before I ever heard of MSOffice, though.

 Let's see...Clarisworks was released 1984.
 StarOffice (Sun) was released in 1985.
 Lotus 1 2 3 was released in 1983, but apparently Lotus Notes wasn't until 
 1989.
 Wordperfect for DOS was released in 1989.

 And MSOffice was released in 1991.

 Of course, neither Staroffice (Sun), Lotus (IBM) nor Wordperfect
 (Corel), had a full suite, initially,
 as far as I am aware, but Clarisworks/Appleworks did, well before MSOffice.
 OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice, of course, are both children of the
 old StarOffice.

I used to use PC-Write on DOS many years ago.  IIRC, the same company
had a spreadsheet and database available.  Of course, if we don't limit
ourselves to PCs, the mainframe and minicomputer world had office
software long before there was such a thing as a PC.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

2013-11-02 Thread James Knott
James Knott wrote:
 I used to use PC-Write on DOS many years ago.  IIRC, the same company
 had a spreadsheet and database available.  Of course, if we don't limit
 ourselves to PCs, the mainframe and minicomputer world had office
 software long before there was such a thing as a PC.

Forgot to include the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staroffice


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Huge security bugs

2013-10-29 Thread James Knott
Marcello Romani wrote:
 Am I the only one smelling a troll here ?


And here I was thinking it was my socks!  ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Huge security bugs

2013-10-28 Thread James Knott
I have been using LibreOffice and OpenOffice before it for many years
and have never seen such behaviour.  As for associating older files,
that's an operating system function, where all files of a specific type,
no matter how old, are associated with the specified app.  So, if you
associate XLS files, then every one of them on your computer will now be
associated with LibreOffice, no matter how old.  You cannot control this
according to age.

Jan wrote:
 Today in good faith I downloaded and for trial your Libre Office pack. I
 installed it and already during the installation I expressly didn't wish
 it to associate with files created by other software. After I launched
 it then, it immediately and completely illogically asked me about
 “restoration” of files I had at the time open in running Open Office. I
 didn't authorize such nonsense, but your software instead of leaving the
 files alone deleted the files and destroyed my unfinished work. It
 deleted several dozens of open locked versions of both MS-Excel and Open
 Office spreadsheets I was working on, caused immediate crash of Open
 Office subsequently, while even - perhaps to add insult to injury -
 associated itself AGAINST my authorization with old versions of the
 files created in Open Office and MS Excel - which could be all described
 as most violent malware behavior imaginable. Your pack maybe is for
 free, but the damages caused to me by its behavior on my computer,
 intruding files created by other software, I estimate to several
 thousands USD on lost data, calculations and graphical representations,
 which took me several weeks to put together, analyze and plot.
 Nobody can wonder I'm now considering gain publicity for whole affair
 and get your software blacklisted by antimalware providers, because it
 clearly behaves against the general contract and legal regulations,
 intruding and destroying intelectual property created using the software
 provided by third parties.

 Dr. Jan Zeman





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Font charts

2013-10-14 Thread James Knott
Ken Springer wrote:
 Back in the 8-bit computer days, it was easy to find simple charts for
 various things, like this simple ASCII font chart.

 LMAO!!!   Forgot to include the link!

 http://www.asciitable.com/

 Does anyone know of a similar simple chart for modern/contemporary
 fonts?  Everything I've found so far, for charts, are far more complex
 than I'm looking for.


One of the things that's making what you want more difficult to find is
unicode.  Unicode supports many thousands of characters, so it's a large
table.  You can search on unicode to find the tables.  However, you may
be going about this the wrong way.  Is there a specific set of
characters, such as for another language?  If so, you can enable other
keyboard layouts and switch among them.  For example, I have
International English enabled so that I can get a variety of symbols and
also the Greek layout for characters that are commonly used in
electronics.  I just press CtlShift to switch.


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Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-09 Thread James Knott
Robert Holtzman wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:52:09AM +0200, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  But I like compiling from source complains the battle scared OS
  pioneer!
  
  [1]http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-cod
  e
 The link leads to not found, at least for me.

Did you notice that e that wound up on the next line?  You may have to
add it to the URL.

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Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-08 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 I think we would have more Linux users if packages like LO can be
 installed with one click of the mouse onto the install file as Windows
 does with the .msi file.

That can already be done.  Generally, if a package is available as an
RPM or DEB file, then clicking on it will run the installer.

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Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-08 Thread James Knott
Jay Lozier wrote:
 My observation is that for the many users of Linux, Windows, and Macs
 will have about the same experience once installed and configured. I
 have a couple of friends who have me take care of the Linux boxes. They
 do not seem to have any trouble with Linux once I got it set up
 correctly.

Jay, could you please configure your email program so that it clearly
shows what you are replying to, as my message does here.  Your posts
simply show your comments as a continuation of someone else's message. 
This makes it difficult to determine what you wrote and what you are
replying to.  Her is an example:

I do agree that once you figure out that blasted wrench thingy, Linux
gives you a better ride than Windows.  Also, how many OSs will give
you the flavor options for their desktop environment as Linux does? 
They tried to do that with Windows before, and even MS tried to get
people to like their new one.  But when you get down to it, only Linux
has the variety of an ice cream shop.  Why go to a shop [OS] that offers
one or two flavors, when there is a better shop that offers 20 or more
flavors to choose from?
.
Hi

My observation is that for the many users of Linux, Windows, and Macs
will have about the same experience once installed and configured. I
have a couple of friends who have me take care of the Linux boxes. They
do not seem to have any trouble with Linux once I got it set up
correctly.


Your text apparently starts from the word Hi and there is nothing else
to separate your comments from the previous person's.

Most (all?) email programs should show clearly what you're replying to. 
Are you, by chance, just editing and resending a received message,
instead of replying to it?  If so, please stop, as your replies are
making it difficult to separate who wrote what comments.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Duplicate messages

2013-10-08 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
 Is anyone else still getting extra duplicates a day or few after the original 
 posts?  

They seem to have stopped for me.


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Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-08 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 Have you tried to do that for LO?
 How many package files need to be run to install LO on a Linux box? 
 There are 52 .deb files to run/install in the 4.1.2 64-bit Debian
 install, plus the help pack, plus the language pack if needed.

 Like to do a single click or double-click to install all of those files?


The problem is with the way LO is distributed.  I have no idea why they
do it that way.  There are other programs available where clicking on
the RPM works fine.

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Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-08 Thread James Knott
Paul wrote:
 There is nothing inherent in linux that makes it harder (barring the
 sheer number of distros; see below), it depends purely on how much
 effort the developers are willing to go to for any particular linux
 distro.

Don't forget, LO is included in many distros.  It might not be the
absolute latest, but it would be farily recent.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 'deployment'

2013-10-07 Thread James Knott
Milos Sramek wrote:
 A friend recently asked me, if it is possible to remotely install and
 configure LibreOffice on numerous client machines - so that the admin
 does not have to run from one computer to the next to do the job. Is
 that possible for LO?

Yes, it's certainly doable.  It's easy enough on Linux and there are
tools available on Windows for that too.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: boot-loaders, was: Fw: Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-07 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 People keep telling me to use a different /home partition, but I never do.


When you do your next upgrade, get another drive for /home and use the
original for everything else.  Then copy your entire /home directory to
the new drive.  When you install the next version, you can specify the
mount point for home, but do not format it.  Go from there and you're
done.  If you don't want to install another drive, just create the
separate partition when upgrading and copy your data back to it.  On my
computer, I have a 160 GB /home and 60 GB for everything else.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: North America Pub Chat

2013-10-07 Thread James Knott
Dave Liesse wrote:
 And, of course, our daylight (summer) time has to be different from
 the rest of the world.  We start earlier and end later than the
 European countries

And different again from the Southern Hemisphere, where they're wrong by
6 months..  ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading Latest Windows Release

2013-10-06 Thread James Knott
Brian Grainger wrote:
 To Whom it May Concern,

 Trying to download and install the latest Windows version of
 LibreOffice from a machine in the UK running Windows 7 and Internet
 Explorer.

 Using the standard process for downloading from the download page the
 LibreOffice install file came as a *.MAN file. Clearly this would not
 install. When I changed the filename to *.msi it would install. My
 friend, who was actually trying to do the install before he called me
 out, would have no idea about doing this and there were no
 instructions to do this on the Installation Instructions web page.


I downloaded the Windows version and didn't have that problem.  It
downloaded as an MSI file and that also showed on the site, when I
placed the mouse pointer over the link.  Where did you download from?  I
downloaded from www.libreoffice.org.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Repositories, was: Fw: Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-06 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 ...Because Linux is inherently broken and cannot run vanilla builds of
 software. Also repositories keep prehistoric versions of apps only,
 backporting only the security issues fixes, which have to be manually
 picked from the developer's VCS and manually patched in. So to fix a
 bug in Foo 0.8.1 you need to upgrade your entire OS to get Foo 0.10.3
 instead of simply installing 0.8.2 or 0.11.1.

Well, it's clear you're clueless.  Have you actually used Linux and
installed apps on it?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: boot-loaders, was: Fw: Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-06 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 It was really nice of Windows to stop allowing me to boot into Ubuntu
 after I upgraded from Vista to Win7.  I had to use a boot fixer disc
 to give me back my Ubuntu.  At least that laptop is the one I use only
 once in a while, since I have a small drive in it, compared to my other one.

I have never had a problem with not being able to access Linux when
Windows is on the system.  Windows installs will always break the boot
loader, so you have to be prepared to deal with that.  However,
reinstalling Windows from the DVDs has never trashed Linux, though I
have heard some recovery discs will.  So, as a rule, unless I have no
alternative, I install Windows first and then Linux.  With my ThinkPad
E520, the first thing I did was to build the recovery DVDs and then used
the Windows tools to shrink the partition, to make room for the Linux
install.  I have not had to reinstall Windows 7 since then.  On my old
ThinkPad, I did reinstall from DVD, but it did not touch the Linux
partitions, only the boot loader.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloading Latest Windows Release

2013-10-06 Thread James Knott
Brian Barker wrote:
 Could some helpful person with the right sort of account please report
 this as a bug at the LibreOffice site?  Meanwhile I may contact
 catn.com directly. 

Go tho the LO site and place your mouse pointer over the link.  What
file name shows up at the bottom of the browser?  What file name shows
up in the download panel?  As I mentioned earlier, I downloaded and
installed the latest version without that problem,   I used Firefox, on
Windows 7, to download it from www.libreoffice.org.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: boot-loaders, was: Fw: Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-06 Thread James Knott
Don Myers wrote:
 I started with Ubuntu with version 8.10, and have had each version
 since then. I generally find it easiest to do a clean install. One
 advantage of that is every 6 months I have a complete backup of my
 hard drive. The second advantage is it is very easy to do. Each
 program has its own hidden file under the home directory, such as
 .thunderbird, .mozilla, .filezilla, gimp-2.8, etc. Once the new
 install is completed, and you have the programs installed that you
 wish from the repository or the ppa, open each one one time to create
 the .whatever hidden file. Then simply delete that file and replace it
 with the backed up file, and you have all of your settings, e-mail,
 bookmarks, server settings for filezille, and everything exactly the
 way was. Very easy and very fast. Much, much, much faster than doing a
 clean install of Windows.

Why not just have a separate /home partition?  That way, you don't have
to delete  replace the app files.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Duplicate messages

2013-10-04 Thread James Knott
Wolfgang Keller wrote:
 Didn't you post that question yesterday already?

It's like déjà vu all over again.  ;-)


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[libreoffice-users] Duplicate messages

2013-10-03 Thread James Knott
Has anyone else been getting duplicate messages from this list?  For the
past couple of days, I have been receiving messages from this list that
I had already received 2-3 days earlier.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Duplicate messages

2013-10-03 Thread James Knott
Virgil Arrington wrote:
 So, you should get two copies of this email. However, I've never had
 to wait 2-3 days for the second copy. It usually comes within minutes
 of the first message.

This morning I received some from Sept 30 and Oct. 1, including one from
me, which I had already seen.  When I first noticed this, I checked my
trash folder and saw there were indeed duplicates.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Duplicate messages

2013-10-03 Thread James Knott
Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 But the first day it happened, it also happened outside of the LO
 lists and included ALL of my email and newsletters recieved that morning.

It's only happening with the LO list.  I use Seamonkey email.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO on La Gendarmerie Nationale computers ?

2013-10-03 Thread James Knott
Brian Barker wrote:
 At 18:14 03/10/2013 +0200, M Henri Day wrote:
 Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols has published an interesting article,
 *French police move from Windows to Ubuntu Linux* (
 http://www.zdnet.com/french-police-move-from-windows-to-ubuntu-linux-721479/
 ), over at ZDNet. It deals explicitly with a migration from Windows
 XP to a «customized version of Ubuntu Linux», but if, as I presume,
 LO is included as the standard office suite, ...

 Perhaps not.

 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/03/french-police-saves-millions-of-euros-by-adopting-ubuntu/
 (from 2009) says
 The Gendarmerie began its transition to open source software in 2005
 when it replaced Microsoft Office with OpenOffice.org across the
 entire organization. It gradually adopted other open source software
 applications, including Firefox and Thunderbird. After the launch of
 Windows Vista in 2006, it decided to phase out Windows and
 incrementally migrate to Ubuntu.


Either way, they're not using Microsoft Office.  They're using open
source software that's supported on multiple platforms and share common
standardized file formats.  This ends the MS lock in for them.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO on La Gendarmerie Nationale computers ?

2013-10-03 Thread James Knott
I've just received a batch of resent messages, such as the one below,
from some idiot joto2...@verizon.net, who thinks it's fun to resend
messages without adding any content.

joto2036 wrote:

 - Original Message - From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO on La Gendarmerie Nationale
 computers ?


 Brian Barker wrote:
 At 18:14 03/10/2013 +0200, M Henri Day wrote:
 Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols has published an interesting article,
 *French police move from Windows to Ubuntu Linux* (
 http://www.zdnet.com/french-police-move-from-windows-to-ubuntu-linux-721479/

 ), over at ZDNet. It deals explicitly with a migration from Windows
 XP to a «customized version of Ubuntu Linux», but if, as I presume,
 LO is included as the standard office suite, ...

 Perhaps not.

 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/03/french-police-saves-millions-of-euros-by-adopting-ubuntu/

 (from 2009) says
 The Gendarmerie began its transition to open source software in 2005
 when it replaced Microsoft Office with OpenOffice.org across the
 entire organization. It gradually adopted other open source software
 applications, including Firefox and Thunderbird. After the launch of
 Windows Vista in 2006, it decided to phase out Windows and
 incrementally migrate to Ubuntu.


 Either way, they're not using Microsoft Office.  They're using open
 source software that's supported on multiple platforms and share common
 standardized file formats.  This ends the MS lock in for them.


   

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Ruth Ann wrote:
 I am curious as to how the Provider works.
 Thank you for telling us about it.
 I installed Provider in Thunderbird last night and see that I now have
 a tab for Google Calendar next to my tab for Lightening.
 My Google calendars display, and I was able to add an event to Google
 calendar from the Thunderbird window, but it is not showing up in the
 Thunderbird/Lightening calendar. The synchronize button is now
 active on the Lightening tab, but nothing seems to happen when I click
 it.

 So I guess what I am asking is does the Provider add-on just let me
 see/update Google Calendar in a tab in the Thunderbird window, or is
 there a way to use it to synchronize the Google calendars with the
 Lightening calendars?

I'm not sure how you got that.  I have a calendar tab next to the tab. 
The calendar shows my own personal Google calendar, along with that for
a group I belong to.  I don't have a separate Google Calendar tab. 
Lightning syncs with both my own and the group calendar.  I'm not sure
what you did wrong.  Perhaps the best thing to do would be to remove the
provider  Lightning and start over.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Ruth Ann wrote:
 I have been using Lightening and Google both for a long time.
 In the past, I have always just made separate entries in both
 calendars - synchronized them manually so to speak.
 So, I have always had a Calendar tab next to my email tab in
 Thunderbird. Then last night, when I installed the Provider add-on, I
 got a third tab that says Google Calendar and shows all the events
 from my Google calendars.
 It looks like it belongs there. Are you saying that I should just have
 the one calendar tab?

Yes.  Installing Lightning enables the calendar tab.  After installing
the provider, I was then able to add the Google calendars to that tab. 
So, when I look at Thunderbird, I see a tab for email and one for
calendar.  When I go to the calendar tab, I see the 2 Google calenars I
use listed on the left side, below the month calendar.  I can add as
many different calendars as I wan't, including a local one there.  To
create a new calendar, I just right click in the area at the left and
select new calendar and I go from there.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Typing in Greek

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
John Jason Jordan wrote:
 What have I missed?
Have you enabled a Greek keyboard? I have configured mine for U.S.
English, International English and Greek. So I can easily switch layouts
to type stuff like ³¤€óÓæςερτδωδσ© and more.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Alex Thurgood wrote:
 Please also note that the Gdata provider 0.25 currently causes
 Thunderbird to hang, requiring the user to restart TB in safe mode.

I haven't had that problem with the Provider for Google Calendar on
either Linux (version 24.0) or Windows (v17.0.3).  It just works.
However, I also wonder if Ruth has something else installed, such as
Google Calendar Tab.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Is that 
 http://www.sogo.nu/english.html

No, nothing to do with it.  This is Google calendar in Thunderbird.

 I might be interested in trying to get that working in a couple of weeks but 
 first need to see some screen-shots and stuff so i will hunt around their 
 site later.  So far i have been stuck on trying to get Evolution to work 
 because it's practically a drop-in replacement for Outlook but unfortunately 
 i got into a big row on their forum/mailing list.  
 Thanks and regards form 
 Tom :)  



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Alex Thurgood wrote:
 Also bear in mind that the Google Data provider and Lightning
 extension are said not to work with the newest version of Google's
 calendar communication protocol API meaning that if nothing is done
 about it, the whole thing will become a white elephant.

Does the new protocol precluded them leaving the existing methods in place?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Ruth Ann wrote:
 Now that is pretty nifty! ;-)

You can also connect to Google Calendar with your tablet or smart
phone.  I also use gcontact sync to sync my address book with GMail.  Of
course, my tablet and phone contacts are synced too.


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[libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-09-30 Thread James Knott
Occasionally on this list, someone asks about open source email 
calendar that can be used with LibreOffice.  Here are instructions for
using Google Calendar with Thunderbird.  You can use the Thunderbird
Add-Ons manager to install both Lightning and Provider for Google
Calendar, instead of going to a web site and downloading the package.
This also works with the email program in Seamonkey, but Thunderbird
works better with LO.

https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/using-lightning-google-calendar


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't uninstall because not an administrator?

2013-09-26 Thread James Knott
Doug wrote:
 Using the command prompt in administrator mode, there is a subdirectory
 that I can't uninstall. How do you get elevated privileges in the
 command prompt? (Win 7 PRO-64.)

Create an icon. on the desktop or Start menu, to run a command propmpt. 
You can then right click on it and select Run as administrator.  You
can even change the properties,so that it always runs as administrator.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Created PDF files to not appear as recently created / used

2013-09-10 Thread James Knott
Robert Orzanna wrote:
 I noticed that LibreOffice's PDF creator does not add the created PDF
 to the list of recently created files. Through google I found a
 related bug report but without any comments on it yet.

My understanding of that recent files lists are files you recently
edited and are therefor likely to be editing again.  That would not be
the case with PDFs.  Creating PDFs would be more like printing the
document and I don't recall there being any recently printed documents list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Breaks in Writer

2013-09-08 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
 For most people the answer is to shrug and pay the money because they are 
 unaware of any other option and wherever they bought the machine from is 
 unlikely to know either (or at least not admit to knowing).  



 I just did a quick search for computers on Amazon (since it happened to be 
 open due to someone else's post) and found about 3 out of the first 5 
 machines it listed claimed to have OpenOffice pre-installed, one of the 
 machines was a chrome-book and the other just didn't seem to mention any 
 programs bundled with the computer.  


 So, things do seem to be improving a bit but i imagine MS will fight against 
 that.  

When I got a new Thinkpad, a couple of years ago, the first things I did
were:
1) Build a set of recovery discs.
2) Repartition and install Linux
3) Remove all the crapware from Windows, including that free MS Office.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Same document and different count of sides under windows and linux libreoffice versions

2013-09-04 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
 A4 as used by almost the entire rest of the world (incl Canada).  

Actually, we use US Letter in Canada.  I have never seen A4 available
in stores.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mobile devices?

2013-08-29 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
 I just had a glimpse of an Android and it looks like it's got a
  mini-Usb socket in the top.  If that could break-out to a powered 
 usb-hub then surely you could get keyboard, mice, maybe even screens working 
 off the Android?  


 So 1 docking station at work and 1 at home might be enough to do emailing and 
 more serious stuff there and still be able to keep an eye on things when 
 travelling around or out?


 Or is Android just not yet set-up to do this sort of thing?  

Every mobile device is required to have a USB connection for power.  It
doesn't have to be used for anything else but generally is.  I don't
know about keyboards though.  However, keyboards are supported via Blutooth.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

2013-08-28 Thread James Knott
rost52 wrote:
 The metric system has it is advantage in the factors of 10 or 1/10. I
 consider this as the reason why most countries adopted the metric system.

It was also designed as a logical system, tied to defined physical
constants.  I recently watched a video about how the new standard for a
kilogram was the number of atoms in a precisely measured silicon
sphere.  The kilometre was originally defined in relation to the
distance from the equator to the poles, but is currently determined by
the wavelength of light emitted by the kryton-86 items.  This shows the
metric system is defined in terms of physical constants and not some
unmeasurable item such as the length of a long dead king's arm.

 If a country is serious about a change, than all measures must be
 provided for a while in both units and after while the old units must
 disappear.

In Canada, when Km and °C came in, there was a switch over date, the
road sides had stickers placed over the old speed limit in miles to show
in Km.  Weather reporting swithed to Celcius.  As for physical things,
there was a date given, where dimensions had to be specified in metric,
but this applied to things made after that date and older items could
still be sold.  However, manufacturers switched production well before
that date.  The switch over was also phased in, so only one thing
changed at a time.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

2013-08-28 Thread James Knott
Brian Barker wrote:
 The kilometre [...] is currently determined by the wavelength of
 light emitted by the kry[p]ton-86 items.

 Sorry, but for the avoidance of confusion, you are thirty years out of
 date.  Since 1983, the metre has been defined as the distance
 travelled by light _in vacuo_ in a specified time.  This has the
 effect of *defining* the value of the speed of light, of course.

It's still tied to a physical constant.  Now, what's the speed of dark? ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

2013-08-27 Thread James Knott
Ruth Ann wrote:
 Metric just never caught on here in the USA. And I noticed that as the
 signs were replaced, the news ones just gave the distance in miles again.


You can thank Reagan for that one.  Peanut Carter had implemented a plan
to convert, but Reagan killed it.  This was the same period as when
Canada switched.
 Oh, and our cars still do show the speed in both miles per hour and
 kilometers per hour - but I think that is probably just in case we
 happen to visit Canada (who has gone metric, I think) :-)

Both Canada and Mexico along with every other country an American can
drive to, uses Km.  The U.S. is stuck with 2 third world countries as
the last holdouts.  How does it feel to have the U.S. on par with
Liberia and Myanmar (Burma).

Regardless, thanks to world trade, more and more U.S. companies are
having to work with the metric system, if they want to sell elsewhere.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with definite integral

2013-08-21 Thread James Knott
Uwe Dippel wrote:
 I have yet to find a nice way to draw the vertical line that is usually
 used in solving definite integrals; the one where one writes upper and
 lower limits as sub and sup.
 Can anyone suggest anything better than | which comes out looking quite
 wrong?

Are you using Math?  It's used to include math expressions in Writer.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread James Knott
Felmon Davis wrote:
 anyway, I agree with Tom we shouldn't disagree about agreeing to
 disagree.

I disagree.  ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread James Knott
Mark's Google A/c wrote:
 I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
 mailing list over the last few weeks.

 After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
 wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
 people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?

 Mark Stanton




I occasionally get bounced mail from the different lists I'm on.  It's
usually the recipient that has the problem.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-17 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
 James Knott:

 Here's an article you can show to others.
 http://lifehacker.com/battle-of-the-office-suites-microsoft-office-and-libre-1147940828


 What a ridiculous article. The LO suite inadequacy is clear to any who
 worked with it more than 15 minutes. The reason for this is
 implementing features by an order from Sun/Oracle/RH/whatever or by
 cargo-cult feature transfer. It is clear that no one actually did
 their work with it by themselves.




Dang.  I left my shovel down in my car.

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