Re: [libreoffice-users] Problems opening LibreOffice
As far as I can tell Libreoffice is available from TDF at this link. https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/ The charge is only if you acquire it through the MAC App store. I believe all you forego getting it directly from TDF is automated updates via the App store. ~~R On 5/1/24 11:56, Wendy Becker wrote: I recently got a new MacBook Air and I am not able to open LibreOffice on my new computer. I have had it on my old iMac for years. After speaking with Apple they suggested I contact you so that I don’t have to pay the $8.99 fee to get the latest updates. I would appreciate you assistance. Thank you, Wendy Becker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Labels created in Writer shifts downward while printed
Another (final) thought. Are you using 100% scaling when printing? If there is any scaling or "fit to page" in effect that might be a problem. If that does not help I hope someone else comes along with a better suggestion. Good luck. ~~R On 3/22/24 18:19, Hartman Tam wrote: Hello Richard, Thanks for the quick response. I tried both the paper tray and manual feed slot which both have the same problem. This lead me to believe that if slipping actually occurred, it will be the rollers deep inside the printer. Unfortunately, the printer user manual which doesn't include instructions for cleaning the roller inside the printer but the paper pickup roller serving the paper tray only. And I would like to add, the shift is gradually/accumulative. That means, the first row is well aligned, and start from second row it starts to shift down a little bit, third row doubles that, and so on. This lead me to believe it shouldn't be a slipping issue as it won't be that consistent. Thanks, Hartman On 23/03/2024 00:46, Richard England wrote: I don't own this printer model but it sounds like the paper could be slipping inside (and the rollers aren’t moving the paper through the printer correctly). Try cleaning the rollers inside the printer with a lint free damp cloth (make sure not too damp and printer is switched off and unplugged) ~~R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Labels created in Writer shifts downward while printed
I don't own this printer model but it sounds like the paper could be slipping inside (and the rollers aren’t moving the paper through the printer correctly). Try cleaning the rollers inside the printer with a lint free damp cloth (make sure not too damp and printer is switched off and unplugged) ~~R On 3/22/24 17:13, Hartman Tam wrote: Hello all, I'm creating some labels in Writer. After it being printed, each label shifted downward gradually. This happens with and without any formatting. I have checked I have my label setup correctly. I also tried disabled my printer's scaling but doesn't help. My printer is Brother MFC-L2710DW. Did I miss anything? How can I solve this? LibreOffice version: * Version: 7.3.7.2 / LibreOffice Community * Build ID: 30(Build:2) * CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3 * Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-GB * Ubuntu package version: 1:7.3.7-0ubuntu0.22.04.4 * Calc: threaded Jumbo The label I'm using: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B093TM72T7 Thanks, Hartman -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
How was the document created in LibreOffice saved? It you are in the habit of storing all your documents as PDF files then this would be expected. ~~R On 10/29/23 16:43, Mike Flannigan wrote: On 10/29/23 18:41, Kenneth Groninga wrote: There are 2 instances. I have an old written document that I want to edit.. So I scan it and file it in My Documents . Then I open it in Libre Office Writer to edit it and I can not edit the document. That is normal. If scanning turns the documents into an image file, it cannot be edited by Writer or Draw. I mean you can make marks on the document, but you cannot change the text. Also I type a document in Libre Office Writer and save it in My Documents. Later I want to edit it so I open it in Libre Office Writer and again I can not edit it. Why can I not edit these documents? That is not normal. You should be able to edit it. So when you type something to edit it, does anything happen? Can you get a blinking cursor? Kenneth Groninga On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 3:58 PM Mike Flannigan wrote: What you are doing is not normal. Why scan it? Why not just open the text file in anything and edit it? If you want to go back and forth between text and image file, you can. On Linux I use tesseract to do ocr. Mike On 10/26/23 10:05, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit it? Kenneth Groninga -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Incorrect envelope dimensions passed to print driver
John,
Your investigation is greatly appreciated. When you finally have an
answer, please report it hear, even if it is just the bug report reference.
I've been fighting this on my Fedora Linux systems as well.
~~R
On 4/12/23 09:04, John Kaufmann wrote:
To the base description below, I should add a couple points:
(1) We have an easy alternative to print these envelopes: Export the
file as .DOCX to MS Word, which passes the page size and orientation
without hiccups, then prints directly. [I found that I could also
export the .ODT file to Word, but then it needs some repair before
printing is possible.] But I'm trying to fix this because I want to
use LibreOffice, not MS Office.
(2) When printing from LO Writer, the Print dialog box has not only a
"Preview" section on the left side, but a "Page Layout" section on the
lower right side (which seems initially disconnected from the Preview
section). The Page Layout section has two fields:
- "Paper size" [initially blank, and cannot be changed until the
"Orientation" field is triggered];
- "Orientation" [initially "Automatic"; the other options are
"Portrait" (which then *GETS THE RIGHT DIMENSIONS, BUT WITH
ORIENTATION REVERSED*!) and "Landscape" (which, though it is the
correct orientation, does nothing until the "Paper size" field is
triggered -- and then the "Paper size" field does not have a matching
entry).
This seems to sharpen the troubleshooting focus, but I know nothing
about the LO-print_driver interface, and in particular know nothing
about why the Print dialog box has yet another "Paper size" list from
the one LO maintains for Page format and the one that the print driver
maintains for printer operation. Where can I get information about
these structural questions?
On 2023-04-12 03:20, John Kaufmann wrote:
LibreOffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10 -
Before reporting this as a bug, I would like to put this question
here, because I am missing something.
LO includes in its paper size library "#6-3/4 Envelope", a common
North American size defined as:
3-5/8 (3.63) in (inches) high by 6-1/2 (6.5) in wide in the
customary landscape orientation.
When selected as the paper format, it sets up perfectly ... until
it's time to print.
Then it passes to the "Print" dialog box (for a Konica Minolta C368,
in either PS or PCL6 driver) a size of
6.5 in high by 5.5 in ("User Defined") wide.
That of course is not landscape orientation, and the accompanying
figure (on the left side of the Print dialog box) is shown
accordingly - that is, in portrait, not landscape, orientation. Yet
if I select "Properties" in the dialog box, to go to the printer
driver's own settings, it is portrayed in landscape orientation,
though still incorrectly sized:
5.5 in high by 6.5 in wide ("Custom Size").
The fact that orientation shifts when passed to the Print dialog box,
then shifts again when passed to the printer driver, clearly seems to
be a bug, and I intend to report it as such -- as soon as I
understand why dimensions change. Moreover, what is passed to the
Print dialog box is specific to the print driver. For printers I had
available, different drivers yielded the following:
High Wide Printer / Driver
3.63 6.50 *Original document in LO 7.4.2.3*
3.08 3.63 Brother HL-L2360
8.50 11.00 Epson XP-6100
8.50 11.00 HP LaserJet 2200 (PCL5)
6.50 5.50 KM C360 or C368 (PCL6 or PS)
8.50 11.00 MS Windows Print to PDF
3.63 6.50 MS Windows Fax [*THIS GETS IT RIGHT* and even
identifies "#6 3/4 (Personal) Envelope"]
3.63 6.50 MS XPS Document Writer [*THIS GETS IT RIGHT* (same as
Fax)]
8.00 11.00 OneNote
Bottom line: It's clearly possible to get this right, but rare; most
printers/drivers tested got it wrong in one way or another. Of
course this is not just about a particular envelope size, or even
envelopes generally; it is clearly a paper size issue. Bug 146213
(filed in Dec.2021 for LO 6.3.0.4) traced a similar problem for B5
paper size. It was never assigned, so never resolved, so I'm trying
to take a more systematic approach. Is there a coherent way of
thinking about this?
John
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about Saving Doc
On 11/10/22 09:30, James Knott wrote: On 2022-11-10 12:08, ddalem...@aol.com wrote: I recently installed LibreOffice on my laptop and find that I cannot Save to a USB flashdrive for possible future editing AND delete the document from my laptop. Deleting document on my laptop (in LibreOffice) leaves anything I think I’ve Saved to usb drive blank as well. My wish is to create a document in LibreOffice and save it to usb flashdrive without it remaining on my computer, so that if I wish to edit any of it in the future I can retrieve the document via my usb flashdrive and modify as needed….without its content remaining in my laptop between creation and editing. Pls help me understand how to do this.Thanks very much! That sounds like it might be a permissions issue. Can you write to USB from other apps? Or it could be that the file system caches data and it hasn't been written to the flash drive before it is removed. Was the correct removal/dismount process followed for you OS? ~~R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] is lomath compulsory for displaying formulas in lowriter
Libreoffice Math is the equation editor so yes, it will be necessary to create math formulas/equations in Writer. ~~R On 9/3/22 10:50, jindam, vani wrote: hello lo users, i did not install lomath on debian sid. obviously, math formula is not visible in .docx. is lomath is mandatory to view math formulas in lowriter? regards, jindam, vani -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Using Base to front-end a spreadsheet. Can you insert a new record/line?
Is there a way to use LO Base connected to a spreadsheet to insert a new row in the spreadsheet via Base? Any tips, directions, howtos, or confirmation that it can or can't be done would be appreciated. -- ~~R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing labels from a database is missing every other page
Is there a page break inserted at the end of the template page? ~~R On 12/15/20 8:53 AM, Harvey Nimmo wrote: and finally It is not as bad as I had surmised. All the is happening, is that the label printing process is generating an extra blank page between valid pages. All labels are actually printed. Only the blank label pages have to be extracted from the print job (and reused!);-) On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 17:39 +0100, Harvey Nimmo wrote: Sorry, I forgot to provide the LO version I am using: LO Version: 6.4.5.2Build ID: 40(Build:2)CPU threads: 2; OS: Linux 5.3; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI- Language: en-GBCalc: threaded And additionally, I should day that the odt label file generated shows 13 pages in the statistics at the foot of the window, but fails to show the blank pages, i.e. only 7 pages are shown. CheersHarvey On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 17:30 +0100, Harvey Nimmo wrote: What could be going wrong here? Can anyone help? I am trying to print a set of address labels (3x5 per page) using LO Base connected to a remote MariaDB. The report facilities correctly show the data I want to be printed. The label procedure apparently produces the label report corresponding to selected db-records and correctly shows the number of A4 label pages generated (13). However, on printing them to actual labels, every second page is blank. Inspection of the print file using print preview indeed shows all even pages to be blank, and exporting the file to PDF compresses the whole file automatically to 7 pages. What must I do to get the labels from the even pages printed out? Cheers Harvey -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer: Fake vs. Real Superscripts in advanced fonts
"cuyfalls", I may not have your discerning eye, but using LO v7.0.3.1 on a Fedora v33 box, when I check the automatically converted superscript with one that is created manually by selecting the ordinal abbreviation and changing it to a superscript they look identical for me. I checked two different fonts. My OCD may not be as intense as yours. :-) Could be a difference in LO releases or operation system fonts (?). ~~R StGeorge On 12/6/20 1:56 PM, Michael H wrote: What you're looking for is the autocorrect autoreplacements table. Tools --> Autocorrect --> Autocorrect Options. Turn off the fake ordinals on the Localized options tab. Then you can add entries in the Replace tab for the values you want, like 1st -> 1ˢᵗ. There may be a way to introduce a character style method with this table, so that copy/paste won't produce weirdness like the ordinal glyphs might if the pasted field doesn't have ordinals in the active font, but this is where you'd do it. On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 2:56 PM Cuyahoga Falls wrote: I have a question dealing with one of the advanced features of today's fonts: superscripts. Using LO, one can automatically get ordinal numbers using the Autocorrect feature. Type 1st and the "st" is automatically converted to a superscript. However, the superscript is an artificially created superscript where the "st" is shrunken and raised. The stroke weight is correspondingly reduced resulting in a superscript that looks disproportionately light when compared to other letters. Today's modern fonts have better technology. Many fonts have built in superscript glyphs that are properly sized and weighted. LO can access these features graphically through the "features" option in the Format > Character dialog (or "Font" tab in paragraph or character style dialogs). If I click on the "features" option, and select "superscript," LO will insert an additional code in the font name that will call the properly designed glyphs. Thus, for example, "Sitka Text" becomes "Sitka Text:sups" and the superscript inserted is properly sized and weighted. I can get the same effect by typing the appropriate code in the font name box rather than selecting from the graphical menu of optional "features" in the character style dialog. The typographic benefit is that, by selecting the advanced superscript of the font, one gets a true superscript that is not just shrunken letters with reduced stroke weight. The stroke weight remains consistent with the weight of the normally sized font. As an OCD challenged font freak, I prefer using the true superscripts rather than the artificially produced shrunken superscripts, which brings me to my question. As far as I can tell, LO's automatic insertion of ordinal superscripts using the Autocorrect function always inserts artificially generated and shrunken superscripts rather than the true properly proportioned superscripts contained within advanced fonts. Is there a way of directing the Autocorrect function to use proper superscripts if they are available rather than always creating artificially shrunken ordinal superscripts? It's a bit of a pain to have to manually reformat each ordinal number to use the proper superscript. Even if I use character styles, that is still more labor intensive than simply typing "1st" and spacebar and getting the desired effect. If I could direct the Autocorrect function to select true superscripts rather than artificially generated superscripts, that would be great. For what it's worth, I'm using LO 6.3.4.2 on Windows 10. Thanks. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Tab Stops
Argh, Left, Right, Indeed,as others have said, LEFT click INSERTS tab and RIGHT click adjusts the tab SPACING My bad. This is they way I recall doing this before. ~~R StGeorge On 11/4/20 9:19 PM, Richard England wrote: LO v7.0.3.1 on Fedora 33 and right click on the ruler inserts a tab for me. ~~R On 11/4/20 7:43 PM, Joe Conner wrote: I have LibreOffice 7.0.3.1 running on Ubuntu 20.10 64-bit. What happened to the former ability to right-click on the top ruler and insert a tab stop? If the feature still exists, where was it moved to and why? Blessings, Joe -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Tab Stops
LO v7.0.3.1 on Fedora 33 and right click on the ruler inserts a tab for me. ~~R StGeorge On 11/4/20 7:43 PM, Joe Conner wrote: I have LibreOffice 7.0.3.1 running on Ubuntu 20.10 64-bit. What happened to the former ability to right-click on the top ruler and insert a tab stop? If the feature still exists, where was it moved to and why? Blessings, Joe -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Re: Line spacing on Writer
Thank you Brian, Bruce and Erik for your excellent advice on how to fix line spacing, and I don't know how in a billion kazillion years that I could ever possibly thank you! So this horse walks into a bar and the bartender says -- "Hey, why the long face?" On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Erik Jan wrote: > Bruce Hohl schreef op 06-08-16 om 20:39: > >> Go to "View > Non-Printer Characters". This will show the paragraph >> breaks, etc. >> Position the cursor within a paragraph or select (highlight) desired >> paragraphs. >> Open "Format > Paragraph" and go to the "Indents & Spacing Tab". >> You can view and change spacing setting here. >> >> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Richard Foulk >> wrote: >> >> I’m using LibreOffice Writer to write a novel and the line-spacing is all >>> messed up. Single, 1.5, double-spacing all on the same page. >>> >>> I’ve tried Format-spacing, Windows-paragraph and everything else -- but >>> nothing works. >>> >>> Can you please help me? >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> What I do, is the following: > > When I have imported a file from MSOffice and get problems like you are > describing, I copy (Ctrl-C) the problematic paragraph, delete the > problematic paragraph, make a new one with the desired paragraph style en > paste the text with Ctrl-Shif-Alt-V. This way of pasting deletes all > formatting from the text and accepts the style of the chosen paragraph. > Later I delete al superfluous Windows styles that encumber the document. > > I hope this helps; good luck. > > Erik > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Line spacing on Writer
I’m using LibreOffice Writer to write a novel and the line-spacing is all messed up. Single, 1.5, double-spacing all on the same page. I’ve tried Format-spacing, Windows-paragraph and everything else -- but nothing works. Can you please help me? Thank you -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Spreadsheets
Hi I am trying to create a spreasheet that will track my budget. I want to have a form that will insert a payment every four weeks or monthly by date. Is this possible to do please? Thanks -- Richard Brown Community Organiser 07747 343637 http://cdco.org.uk/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] FEATURE REQUEST -- for the Sort options in Calc
For logical and safety reasons, and for compatibility with Microsoft Excel, I suggest that: * The Sort Option "Range contains column labels" be_unticked by default_. * Allow the sort options to be customized (optional). It is good that LibreOffice has this option, but a beginner don't know that option and will sort what he/she has selected, and it is frustrating to see that the first column is not sorted at all, thinking it's a bug (like I did). Thank you! Cheers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Sort Bug ?
Hello at the nice people at LibreOffice! (especially you :-) ) I'm using LibreOffice version 4.4.1.2 I was very surprised to see a bug (?!) in the internal SORT function of Calc. Please fill the following cells with a simple letter: L17=Z L18=B L19=Y L20=R L21=Q L22=P Now select those 6 cells and click on the Down/Up arrow in the toolbar (Sort), select Sort Key 1 : Z, Ascending, then click OK. Expected result was B-P-Q-R-Y-Z, but the Z did not move at all ! =-O This is undoubtedly a serious bug... and nobody has detected this before? How strange. Hopefully I could be of help making the software still better! Cheers Richard -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Automatic chart data range adjustment - is it possible?
TomW fairpoint.net> writes: > On 2014-06-13 15:03, Regina Henschel wrote: > > Richard Heathfield schrieb: > >> [...] > >> In Excel, I would specify a table and create the chart from the > >> table. Then, adding a row to the table would automatically > >> regenerate the chart to include the new data. > >> > >> Is this possible in LibreOffice? > > > > [...] The trick is, to add a dummy row [...] > > After reading this, I recalled something I had seen in the Options Dialog: > > Tools|Options|Calc|General|Expand references when new columns/rows are > inserted > > With this enabled, if you go to the select next empty row below your > data, then insert a row, it expands the chart reference. > This works with Version 3.6.7.2 (Build ID: e183d5b), Version: 4.2.4.2 > Build ID: 63150712c6d317d27ce2db16eb94c2f3d7b699f8 and Version: > 4.3.0.0.beta2 Build ID: a06aa316117a6ff0f05c697c82831c227812d810, all on > Vista. Hi TomW. Thanks for giving this some thought. I looked, and that option is indeed available in my version of LO. The problem with the dummy record solution is that you have this dummy record on the end of your data... and the problem with your solution is that you have to remember to *insert* a row rather than just add one... which means writing a reminder there, which means you effectively have a dummy record anyway, but one that isn't included in the graph data. So it is a marginal improvement on Regina's suggestion. A better solution would be for LibreOffice to support tables. >From what I've seen in my tour around various support channels, though, it may be that LibreOffice people think "table" means "a word-processory sort of grid thing", rather than "fantastically powerful spreadsheet concept". Ah well. Anyway, yes, that's an improvement, and I'll adopt it immediately. Thanks! Regards Richard Heathfield -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Automatic chart data range adjustment - is it possible?
Regina Henschel t-online.de> writes: > > Hi Richard, > > Richard Heathfield schrieb: > > > > In Excel, I would specify a table and create the chart from the table. Then, > > adding a row to the table would automatically regenerate the chart to > > include the new data. > > > > Is this possible in LibreOffice? > > Yes, the trick for it is a very old one. Oh deary deary me. My reply, like Gaul, divides into three parts: (a) "How stupid of me not to have thought of that" - Thomas Huxley (b) "How stupid of LO to require that" - Moi (c) "Thank you" - Moi aussi Cheers, Regina, you're a star. Regards Richard Heathfield -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Automatic chart data range adjustment - is it possible?
Every day, I add another row to my spreadsheet. This row's data must be included in an existing chart, so the data range must grow by one row every day. (The data hardly matters - if it helps, one example would be a record and graph of all daily maximum temperatures since date X.) In Excel, I would specify a table and create the chart from the table. Then, adding a row to the table would automatically regenerate the chart to include the new data. Is this possible in LibreOffice? Up until now, my workaround was to specify an excessively large data range, cheerfully add my data once per day, and just update the range whenever reality caught up with it. Alas, a few days ago I finally updated to Precise Pangolin (or whatever it's called), and this installed an update to LibreOffice which "helpfully" rounds down my deliberately inflated data ranges. If I could stop LibreOffice doing that, that would be an acceptable solution. Any ideas much appreciated. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Additions
Dear Sirs/Madame: I wonder if I could make a suggestion for improvement to the program. Somehow, early on, Microsoft built into Word an ability of the program to suggest various ways to correct grammar. I wonder if the same could be done for Writer? I switched to Linux after getting frustrated with Microsoft's crashing in 1998 and have not gone back since, neither have I the energy to put up with their crap: do you think that you can help me out? Thanks, Richard Vickery -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Easy QA Task - Need Volunteer(s)
Hello Joel, I will review the site. I assigned it to myself. Having a bit of a problem, though, getting in to http://qa.libreoffice.org/ Is the site down? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > We have a really easy task that QA needs done - looking for a volunteer to > take care of it and give feedback. > > Here is the bug report for it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ > show_bug.cgi?id=71755 > > Can we get a volunteer or two? > > Any questions can be sent me way or to Florian R. > > > Thanks in advance! > > Best, > Joel > ___ > List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list > Mail address: libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org > Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/ > mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ > -- Refracta, DoudouLinux. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Base to Heroku PostgreSQL requires "SSL=true"
LO: Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID: 400m0(Build:2)) OS: Ubuntu 13.04 Java: java version "1.7.0_21" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.3.9) (7u21-2.3.9-1ubuntu1) OpenJDK Server VM (build 23.7-b01, mixed mode) Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into opening a bug report. On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 23/05/13 05:59, Richard Broermsa Jr. a écrit : > > Hi Richard, > > It might well be that a postgres SSL connection isn't supported in your > version of LO. > > Which version of LO, which OS and which version of Java ? I don't know > whether the main developer of the LO postgres support code reads this > list very often, otherwise you will probably have to open up a bug report. > > > Alex > > > -- Regards, Richard Broersma Jr. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Base to Heroku PostgreSQL requires "SSL=true"
Hello, As the subject line describes I'm trying to connect to Heroku PostgreSQL via JDBC and ODBC. However, the required connection string using JDBC yields the following error message: SQL Status: 08006 SSL error: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target Connecting via ODBC works. However, for some reason, only the public schema shows. Other schema are not listed. Any thoughts? Regards, Richard Broersma Jr. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Update- Odd problem LO with Mac running 10.7.5
I have an update-- After tinkering with the screen resolution I've discovered that the problem seems to only appear at certain resolutions: 1024 x 768 (stretched) both full screen and windowed-screen display correctly 1280 x 960 (stretched) both full screen and windowed-screen display correctly 1280 x 1024 (stretched) full screen doesn't display correctly, windowed-screen does 1344 x 756 regular: full screen and windowed screen display properly 1344 x 1008 (stretched) full screen doesn't display correctly, but windowed screen does 1600 x 900 (regular) both full screen and windowed-screen display correctly (go figure) 1920 x 1080 (regular) full screen does not display correctly but windowed-screen does anything higher seems to display incorrectly. Since it's the largest screen version of the iMac, I typically have my resolution set at 2560 x 1440, which doesn't display properly in either windowed-screen or full screen. New update: It does this when running LO under Windows 7 too. It's not OS specific. I think it's just a problem with the Metropolis theme definitions. Rich Lewis -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Lewis Date: Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:04 PM Subject: Odd problem LO with Mac running 10.7.5 To: users@global.libreoffice.org I haven't seen any information on this in the list of "annoying bugs" so I thought I'd post it here. I'm creating instructional design to teach our 8th grade students how to use LibreOffice Impress. However I'm running into a snag on my own Mac, developing the multimedia presentation. The slideshow utilizes the Metropolis theme. When I play the slide-show in full screen mode, only about 1/4 of the screen shows the blue background. The rest of the background is white, and since the text is white it disappears. I switched it to windowed mode to see if it made any difference. The blue background still doesn't fill the slide area. I've enclosed a jpg screen-shot of what it looks like. Filename: LO_Problem.jpg Here's some of my system specifics: iMac Intel 2.7 GHz Core i7 with 27 inch screen, 12 GB memory. OS X Version 10.7.5 LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID: 4c82dcdd6efcd48b1d8bba66bfe1989deee49c3) TinderBox: MacOSX TDF Release, Branch:libreoffice-4-0, Time: 2013-03-26_15:52:16 Any ideas what could cause this problem? I'm in a pickle if I can't teach LibreOffice Impress with a Presentation built in LibreOffice Impress! :) Thank you, Rich Lewis Sacred Heart Catholic School, Muenster, TX Director of Technology and Computer Teacher rlew...@gmail.com, rle...@shmuenster.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Odd problem LO with Mac running 10.7.5
I haven't seen any information on this in the list of "annoying bugs" so I thought I'd post it here. I'm creating instructional design to teach our 8th grade students how to use LibreOffice Impress. However I'm running into a snag on my own Mac, developing the multimedia presentation. The slideshow utilizes the Metropolis theme. When I play the slide-show in full screen mode, only about 1/4 of the screen shows the blue background. The rest of the background is white, and since the text is white it disappears. I switched it to windowed mode to see if it made any difference. The blue background still doesn't fill the slide area. I've enclosed a jpg screen-shot of what it looks like. Filename: LO_Problem.jpg Here's some of my system specifics: iMac Intel 2.7 GHz Core i7 with 27 inch screen, 12 GB memory. OS X Version 10.7.5 LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID: 4c82dcdd6efcd48b1d8bba66bfe1989deee49c3) TinderBox: MacOSX TDF Release, Branch:libreoffice-4-0, Time: 2013-03-26_15:52:16 Any ideas what could cause this problem? I'm in a pickle if I can't teach LibreOffice Impress with a Presentation built in LibreOffice Impress! :) Thank you, Rich Lewis Sacred Heart Catholic School, Muenster, TX Director of Technology and Computer Teacher rlew...@gmail.com, rle...@shmuenster.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Resolved, sort of: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Writer Find & Replace format broken
On 10/18/2012 07:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 10:22 18/10/2012 -0700, Richard C. Steffens wrote: I've been using LibreOffice on Ubuntu 10.04 for many months. I transcribe recorded interviews. The format includes the identification of the speaker at the left margin followed by what they said. To speed up the typing I use the short abbreviation I: when the interviewer is speaking, and M: or F: when the interviewee is speaking. When I'm all done I use Find & Replace to change I: to Interviewer:, and then change M: (or F:) to Interviewee:. This process has been working fine for months. The day before yesterday it stopped applying the italic format during replace.How do I figure out what happened, and then how do I fix it? o In the Find & Replace dialogue, click More Options. o With the cursor in the "Replace with" box, click Format and then click Italic under Typeface on the Font tab. (You don't need to select a Font or Size.) Is that what you are doing? Yes. The format attribute of the "Replace with" text appears to be remembered; Yes. I have noticed that. did you perhaps for some reason click No Format and cancel your italics the day before yesterday? Certainly not intentionally, but who can say for sure. I trust this helps. Oddly, it now works, again. Here's the procedure I've always used: o Copy the text I want to use as the replacement to the clipboard. o Highlight the first instance of the text I want to replace. o Click o Paste the text I want to use as the replacement into the Replace with box. o Click on More Options. o Click on Format. o Click on Italic in the Style column. o Click Ok. At this point I see the words "Italic, normal" under the Replace with box. I saw those words when this wasn't working, too. o Click Replace All. That always used to work, and now it works, again. The only explanation I can think of is that I needed to learn how to achieve the same results using AutoCorrect, which works fine and saves me a couple of steps when I'm finished with the transcription. So, I called this "resolved, sort of" because it works correctly again, but I don't really know why it didn't work for a short while. Thanks to all for the tips and hints. -- Regards, Dick Steffens -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Writer Find & Replace format broken
I've been using LibreOffice on Ubuntu 10.04 for many months. I transcribe recorded interviews. The format includes the identification of the speaker at the left margin followed by what they said. To speed up the typing I use the short abbreviation I: when the interviewer is speaking, and M: or F: when the interviewee is speaking. When I'm all done I use FindReplace to change I: toInterviewer:, and then change M: (or F:) toInterviewee:. This process has been working fine for months. The day before yesterday it stopped applying the italic format during replace.How do I figure out what happened, and then how do I fix it? The last few interviews have been only a few pages long, so reformatting each Interviewer: and Interviewee: by hand wasn't too big of a problem. I'm about to start on some longer interviews and I want to fix the problem before I start.-- Regards, Dick Steffens -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Opening a second document into libreoffice from the command line.
Hello. Running a LibreOffice on a mac. Needing to use a command line to open an unusual extension directly into calc ... open -a LibreOffice.app --args --calc ## where ## is the filename. This works perfectly for the first file. But, attempting to use this for a second file, fails to load. Using ... open --new -a LibreOffice.app --args --calc ## works fine. But is there a way to NOT have a second (or more) copies of LibreOffice opened? Thank you. Richard. -- Richard Quadling | rich...@fantasyshopper.com | http://www.fantasyshopper.com Fantasy Shopper <http://www.fantasyshopper.com/> http://www.fantasyshopper.com/ Fantasy Shopper: a fun new website where you can fulfill all your shopping fantasies! With more than 300 real shops you can build your Fantasy Wardrobe with real clothes, style outfits for you and friends and compete with the community for real prizes. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How do I open a file with a .tsv extension as a .csv file on a Mac OSX (Lion?) using OpenOffice Calc.
On 14 September 2012 16:33, Jay Lozier wrote:
> On 09/14/2012 11:21 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
>
>
>
> On 14 September 2012 16:04, Jay Lozier wrote:
>
>> On 09/14/2012 09:46 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> As an experiment, change the extension on one of a copy of a files from
>>> *.tsv to *.csv. From your description, it sounds like *.tsv is a tab
>>> delimited text file and *.csv nominally is comma delimited text file.
>>>
>>> When importing into Calc make sure to highlight Tab as the delimiter not
>>> comma, Calc will remember the last delimiter used.
>>>
>>> If this is successful there are two possible options: change the default
>>> settings of the program that generated the file or determine an "easy"
>>> way to convert the *.tsv files to *.csv files.lo
>>>
>>>
>> This is what I already do. It is painful. I work on these file and then
>> they are shared and stored and processed by other systems (not just me).
>> Renaming them excludes them from everything EXCEPT calc.
>>
>> I think if I can get Calc to run automatically, with the double clicked
>> (or CMD+O for open - just found that today), then I'll be a LOT happier.
>> --
>> Richard Quadling | rich...@fantasyshopper.com |
>> http://www.fantasyshopper.com
>>
>> Fantasy Shopper <http://www.fantasyshopper.com/>
>> http://www.fantasyshopper.com/
>>
>> Fantasy Shopper: a fun new website where you can fulfill all your
>> shopping fantasies! With more than 300 real shops you can build your
>> Fantasy Wardrobe with real clothes, style outfits for you and friends and
>> compete with the community for real prizes.
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> If you want to try using the command line you might try the following
>> scripts in Terminal:
>> 1)
>>
>> this shell script should do it - note that I use copy instead of move,
>> for test purposes
>>
>> for i in *,tsv
>> do
>> b=basename $i .tsv
>> cp $i ${b}.csv
>> done
>>
>> 2)
>>
>> rename "s/\.tsv$/.csv/" *.tsv
>>
>> \ and/or $ may require escaping in your shell
>>
>> Both are Linux/Unix scripts and the recent Mac OS is a derivative of BSD;
>> a Unix derivative very similar to Linux. I would create a folder of
>> duplicates.
>>
>> A hat tip to the Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts for the scripts.
>>
>> A quick search indicates that *.tsv files are often exported by Quicken.
>> They are a non-standard format; *.csv is easily understood by spreadsheets
>> and databases.
>>
>> --
>> Jay lozierjsloz...@gmail.com
>>
>>
> OK. I've clearly not explained myself. And I know Windows isn't
> Mac/*nix/etc.
>
> I know I can rename the files back and forth all day long. That is
> EXACTLY what I'm already doing. It is plainly a stupid way to go.
>
> I know I could type lovely long command lines - but why? I want to just
> double click a file and get it to do what I want. And I can't seem to find
> even the simplest questions.
>
> If I could find the mechanics that associates a file extension to a
> program, I'd be onto a winner with the 'open -a ...' option.
>
> 'open -a LibreOffice.app --args --calc
> /development/_data_canonical/acczuk.tsv'
>
> works perfectly from the command line. It does exactly what I want.
>
> So, how do I make THIS the command that is ran when I double click a
> file?
>
> Not sure the command on a Mac, there should be an option to assign tsv
> files to any program. On Windows/Linux it is normally do with a right click
> and selecting the program to use. There may be an option to set the choice
> as the default program.
>
>
>
> --
> Richard Quadling | rich...@fantasyshopper.com |
> http://www.fantasyshopper.com
>
> Fantasy Shopper <http://www.fantasyshopper.com/>
> http://www.fantasyshopper.com/
>
> Fantasy Shopper: a fun new website where you can fulfill all your shopping
> fantasies! With more than 300 real shops you can build your Fantasy
> Wardrobe with real clothes, style outfits for you and friends and compete
> with the community for real prizes.
>
>
>
> --
> Jay lozierjsloz...@gmail.com
>
>
Non Mac users of LibreOffice are completely missing the fact that
LibreOffice.app is all that the UI shows. Not calc, or whatever the other
modules are called.
And so, I can EASILY associate a tsv file with LibreOffice. No problems
there at all.
But it opens it in the word processor.
I want to associate it with the
Re: [libreoffice-users] How do I open a file with a .tsv extension as a .csv file on a Mac OSX (Lion?) using OpenOffice Calc.
On 14 September 2012 16:33, Jay Lozier wrote:
> On 09/14/2012 11:21 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
>
>
>
> On 14 September 2012 16:04, Jay Lozier wrote:
>
>> On 09/14/2012 09:46 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> As an experiment, change the extension on one of a copy of a files from
>>> *.tsv to *.csv. From your description, it sounds like *.tsv is a tab
>>> delimited text file and *.csv nominally is comma delimited text file.
>>>
>>> When importing into Calc make sure to highlight Tab as the delimiter not
>>> comma, Calc will remember the last delimiter used.
>>>
>>> If this is successful there are two possible options: change the default
>>> settings of the program that generated the file or determine an "easy"
>>> way to convert the *.tsv files to *.csv files.lo
>>>
>>>
>> This is what I already do. It is painful. I work on these file and then
>> they are shared and stored and processed by other systems (not just me).
>> Renaming them excludes them from everything EXCEPT calc.
>>
>> I think if I can get Calc to run automatically, with the double clicked
>> (or CMD+O for open - just found that today), then I'll be a LOT happier.
>> --
>> Richard Quadling | rich...@fantasyshopper.com |
>> http://www.fantasyshopper.com
>>
>> Fantasy Shopper <http://www.fantasyshopper.com/>
>> http://www.fantasyshopper.com/
>>
>> Fantasy Shopper: a fun new website where you can fulfill all your
>> shopping fantasies! With more than 300 real shops you can build your
>> Fantasy Wardrobe with real clothes, style outfits for you and friends and
>> compete with the community for real prizes.
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> If you want to try using the command line you might try the following
>> scripts in Terminal:
>> 1)
>>
>> this shell script should do it - note that I use copy instead of move,
>> for test purposes
>>
>> for i in *,tsv
>> do
>> b=basename $i .tsv
>> cp $i ${b}.csv
>> done
>>
>> 2)
>>
>> rename "s/\.tsv$/.csv/" *.tsv
>>
>> \ and/or $ may require escaping in your shell
>>
>> Both are Linux/Unix scripts and the recent Mac OS is a derivative of BSD;
>> a Unix derivative very similar to Linux. I would create a folder of
>> duplicates.
>>
>> A hat tip to the Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts for the scripts.
>>
>> A quick search indicates that *.tsv files are often exported by Quicken.
>> They are a non-standard format; *.csv is easily understood by spreadsheets
>> and databases.
>>
>> --
>> Jay lozierjsloz...@gmail.com
>>
>>
> OK. I've clearly not explained myself. And I know Windows isn't
> Mac/*nix/etc.
>
> I know I can rename the files back and forth all day long. That is
> EXACTLY what I'm already doing. It is plainly a stupid way to go.
>
> I know I could type lovely long command lines - but why? I want to just
> double click a file and get it to do what I want. And I can't seem to find
> even the simplest questions.
>
> If I could find the mechanics that associates a file extension to a
> program, I'd be onto a winner with the 'open -a ...' option.
>
> 'open -a LibreOffice.app --args --calc
> /development/_data_canonical/acczuk.tsv'
>
> works perfectly from the command line. It does exactly what I want.
>
> So, how do I make THIS the command that is ran when I double click a
> file?
>
> Not sure the command on a Mac, there should be an option to assign tsv
> files to any program. On Windows/Linux it is normally do with a right click
> and selecting the program to use. There may be an option to set the choice
> as the default program.
>
>
>
> --
> Richard Quadling | rich...@fantasyshopper.com |
> http://www.fantasyshopper.com
>
> Fantasy Shopper <http://www.fantasyshopper.com/>
> http://www.fantasyshopper.com/
>
> Fantasy Shopper: a fun new website where you can fulfill all your shopping
> fantasies! With more than 300 real shops you can build your Fantasy
> Wardrobe with real clothes, style outfits for you and friends and compete
> with the community for real prizes.
>
>
>
> --
> Jay lozierjsloz...@gmail.com
>
>
Non Mac users of LibreOffice are completely missing the fact that
LibreOffice.app is all that the UI shows. Not calc, or whatever the other
modules are called.
And so, I can EASILY associate a tsv file with LibreOffice. No problems
there at all.
But it opens it in the word processor.
I want to associate it with the co
[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I open a file with a .tsv extension as a .csv file on a Mac OSX (Lion?) using OpenOffice Calc.
Seems I've forgotten to reply-to-all (sorry peeps) ... OK. I've clearly not explained myself. And I know Windows isn't Mac/*nix/etc. I know I can rename the files back and forth all day long. That is EXACTLY what I'm already doing. It is plainly a stupid way to go. I know I could type lovely long command lines - but why? I want to just double click a file and get it to do what I want. And I can't seem to find even the simplest questions. If I could find the mechanics that associates a file extension to a program, I'd be onto a winner with the 'open -a ...' option. 'open -a LibreOffice.app --args --calc /development/_data_canonical/acczuk.tsv' works perfectly from the command line. It does exactly what I want. So, how do I make THIS the command that is ran when I double click a file? -- Richard Quadling | rich...@fantasyshopper.com | http://www.fantasyshopper.com Fantasy Shopper <http://www.fantasyshopper.com/> http://www.fantasyshopper.com/ Fantasy Shopper: a fun new website where you can fulfill all your shopping fantasies! With more than 300 real shops you can build your Fantasy Wardrobe with real clothes, style outfits for you and friends and compete with the community for real prizes. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How do I open a file with a .tsv extension as a .csv file on a Mac OSX (Lion?) using OpenOffice Calc.
Hello. I'm new to using a Mac and some of the things I can do in Windows I'm unable to even work out the question for on a Mac, so please bear with me. The files are generated from an automated system, several hundred a day and have a .tsv extension (can't change it for every file). The files are UTF-8 encoded text files with TAB separated content. I need to be able to double click the file and have it open in Libre Office Calc. Even if it has to ask me to choose the delimiter to process it with. I've no idea if this is possible. On Windows, I'd associate .tsv with Excel and all would be "just done". I can't even find Calc for LibreOffice, only the LibreOffice.app in my Applications directory - again, this may be me - I'm VERY VERY new to Mac and the differences are sometimes confounding. If I try to open Libre Office first and then open a Spreadsheet file, the open file dialogue doesn't allow me to pick the .tsv files. They are all greyed out. Really stuck. Renaming the files first, editing the content as I need, and then reversing the rename takes forever on a mac - OK I know this bit is me, I'm so used to doing everything from the keyboard and having to constantly go to the mouse to do things just beeps me off a bit. If I get Finder to open .tsv files all the time, they open in the word processor part. Any useful suggestions would be brilliant! Thank you. Richard Quadling. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How do I link data from a LibreOffice Database (linked to a MySQL Server) to a LibreOffice Spreadsheet?
Hi. I'm on a Mac and trying to replicate a process I'm very familiar with on Windows using MS Excel. I have a database (a MySQL database) and I want to create a spreadsheet that will allow users to quickly query the database and get reports/counts/etc. In Windows, I create views on the database and use MS Query / ODBC to link between Excel and the database. All works exactly as you'd expect. No drama, hassle or anything. I'm no longer working in a Windows environment and I'm struggling with what seems to be a fairly obvious use case. I've been recommend LibreOffice, and for the bits and pieces I've used so far, I'm impressed. I've managed to create a database link and I can create views and store them and, on the surface, it looks OK. When I look at the spreadsheet, I can see no way to link to the database. When I open the Navigator, I can see Database Ranges - but that's not what it seems. Now, I know I can cut'n'paste the data. This is NOT what I want. The use case is it allow a user to open the spreadsheet and either automatically or manually update the data from the database. No complex cut'n'paste or 20 click madness. Any real help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards, Richard. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend : Fantasy Shopper @RQuadling : http://e-e.com/M_248814.html : http://bit.ly/9O8vFY : http://fan.sh/106/5tw -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Font attributes will not save in Calc
I have tried saving font changes (to Arial Black from Times New Roman) many times in Calc. I need this due to problems with poor vision. Each time I reload the document I have to do it again (block, change, and re-save). It is a three-page spreadsheet. Am I doing something wrong? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Font-attributes-will-not-save-in-Calc-tp3448157p3448157.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
Yes, Zed, but that DOES NOT WORK!! -Original Message- From: Zed [mailto:z...@zed.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:22 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation "Richard" wrote: > HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried > many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, > land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. The following appears at the bottom of every post you receive. Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Zed -- Zed COMPUTER LITERACY? You mean my computer can READ?! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] OT: Error in list headers
Thanks, James - I'll try that, although my hopes are dim at this point that that will work. Richard -Original Message- From: James E. Lang [mailto:jim+...@lang.hm] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:12 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] OT: Error in list headers The list headers include this line: List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:users+h...@libreoffice.org> Instead of "+help" it should be "+unsubscribe" -- Jim --On Monday, May 30, 2011 01:32:19 PM -0400 Richard wrote: > I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. > PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number > where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. -->8== > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Thanks. I do have a way to specify these messages as JUNK, and not even open them, BUT, they are still downloaded before being rejected as junk, so I get all this garbage going thru my system before the being dumped into the trash. $*#@*&* You get the idea. Thanks for your input, Roland. Richard -Original Message- From: Roland Hughes [mailto:rol...@logikalsolutions.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:23 PM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken Richard, If actual IT professionals set up the server correctly, you send a COMPLETELY EMPTY MESSAGE to users+h...@libreoffice.org No SIG files, no subject, no message body. Given the organization of the Web site, and those genetic miss-fits from management that hang out here and speak directly out their rectal orifice without even the tiniest shred of knowledge...I would not be surprised to find out that doesn't work either. Management = genetic miss-fits promoted to their level of inability. Of course, you email system ought to provide a Web interface. Open your browser without your email client being opened and go to that Web page. Find messages from Tanstaafl and flag them as junk mail. Do this on the server via the Web interface and it will stop gigs of useless bits from attempting to come down your dial up connection. On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 13:31 -0400, Richard wrote: > HELP!!! > I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to > unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. > PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where > I can UNSUBSCRIBE. > > rich...@hornick.us > > -Original Message- > From: Joep L. Blom [mailto:jlb...@neuroweave.nl] > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 11:19 AM > To: users@libreoffice.org > Cc: Roland Hughes > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken > > On 30/05/11 15:58, Roland Hughes wrote: > > Joep, > > > > Professional IT workers never remove any portion of the post because > > when you go through a SOX audit, and then through court, you get in a > > whole lot of trouble for doing it. > > > > Now, people who once got paid for writing a program or use Microsoft > > products may well have different opinions since their not the ones > > working on multi-million dollar projects for Fortunate 500 companies. > > > > There is a long drawn out history of people deleting what they didn't > > read then denying things were said. > > > > Bottom posting wastes vast quantities of developers time scrolling to > > the end. Full quoting is a policy mandated by most major corporations > > and IT organizations because it allows management (and the legal team) > > to jump into the conversation at any point. > > > > I wouldn't even be on this list had the Web site been designed by > > software professionals instead of whoever was used. > > > > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 12:05 +0200, Joep L. Blom wrote: > > > >> On 30/05/11 08:45, Roland Hughes wrote: > >>> Neither bottom nor interleaved posting methods are used by professional > >>> IT workers. Microsoft developers yes, but not professionals. > >>> > >> > >> Sigh! Roland your remark is utter nonsens. Many lists courteously > >> request to bottom post but also request clipping. Professional IT > >> workers remove unnecessary wording from replies and adhere to > >> courteously requested rules. > >> Joep > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Roland, > Permit me to disagree. If you need E-mails for court representation it > is best to furnish the original E-mails not the parts of text in answers > to E-mails. You answer the relevant portions of an E-mail as the > originator has the original text. I don't think a court will accept the > umptieth repeat of an original E-mail. But I live in the Netherlands and > I have no idea how convoluted American lawyers and justices actually > reason. Well, that goes for Dutch members of that kind also. It is a > breed that I, as a simple scientist, not understand so therefore your > reasoning might be right. > Joep > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. --
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac
HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. rich...@hornick.us -Original Message- From: Alexander Thurgood [mailto:alex.thurg...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:22 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac Le 29/05/11 23:33, Anthony Grimes a écrit : Hi Anthony, > > I can't really figure out what is going wrong here. Is this a bug? I > feel like I might be one of only a few people experiencing this, because > there is a huge lack of information about it on google. If so, am I > doing something wrong? :\ > > I'm on OS X 10.6.7. > It is a bug, the keyboard shortcut bindings on the Mac OS version of LibreOffice are mostly screwed at the moment, actually they have been since the first release of LibreOffice. Sure, the basic stuff works (some of the time, depending on the app module you are using), but anything a bit more complex...well it is mostly no go. I haven't got the references to hand, but there are bug reports for various keyboard shortcuts not working on Mac. One noticeable one is the current impossibility to cycle through suggested words when you are typing. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=libreoffice+mac+key Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. rich...@hornick.us -Original Message- From: Gianluca Turconi [mailto:pub...@letturefantastiche.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:38 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation Hello Alex, In data 30 maggio 2011 alle ore 11:41:51, Alexander Thurgood ha scritto: > Ultimately, it is not merely the remarks that Michael made, that I may, > or may not, have misinterpreted. As I mentioned, it transpires from > other mailing lists, the dev irc channel, the bug reports, the decisions > to consider any given bug as a stopper or not. I've lurked this specific argument in the dev/steering discuss/French mailing lists when you were commenting Meeks's statement. Now, I'm working with other people on this project: http://www.mail-archive.com/projects@libreoffice.org/msg00241.html During a lengthy and indeed very interesting discussion with Italo Vignoli, Andrea Pescetti and others in the Italian discuss mailing list (for people who knows Italian: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@it.libreoffice.org/msg00104.html ) , I finally wondered: will the relashionship between the Community LibO *product* and the commercially supported ones (Novell/Canonical/Red Hat/put-here-your-preferred-corporation) be like the relationship between Fedora Project Linux, a cutting edge and less stable version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, a very solid and corporate oriented linux distribution based on Fedora? I haven't a sure answer yet, but Andrea Pescetti pointed me to these Meeks messages: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-May/011424.html http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-April/011153.html and to the extremely important "Breathing Master" discussion here: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-May/thread.html Those comments and discussions + yours + the relatively scarce news I know about the LibO/TDF new business model based on paid certification for support corporation, let me think that a Community Libo "cutting edge" product is here to stay and may be a part of that business model. Well, *if* it's so, I'm simply not happy of such solution. It creates a viable open ecosystem around LibO, for sure, but undermines the proverbial rock solid stability I always experienced in OOo. Just my 2 eurocents, of course. ;-) Regards, Gianluca -- Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza, fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale: http://www.letturefantastiche.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. rich...@hornick.us -Original Message- From: Joep L. Blom [mailto:jlb...@neuroweave.nl] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 11:19 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Cc: Roland Hughes Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken On 30/05/11 15:58, Roland Hughes wrote: > Joep, > > Professional IT workers never remove any portion of the post because > when you go through a SOX audit, and then through court, you get in a > whole lot of trouble for doing it. > > Now, people who once got paid for writing a program or use Microsoft > products may well have different opinions since their not the ones > working on multi-million dollar projects for Fortunate 500 companies. > > There is a long drawn out history of people deleting what they didn't > read then denying things were said. > > Bottom posting wastes vast quantities of developers time scrolling to > the end. Full quoting is a policy mandated by most major corporations > and IT organizations because it allows management (and the legal team) > to jump into the conversation at any point. > > I wouldn't even be on this list had the Web site been designed by > software professionals instead of whoever was used. > > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 12:05 +0200, Joep L. Blom wrote: > >> On 30/05/11 08:45, Roland Hughes wrote: >>> Neither bottom nor interleaved posting methods are used by professional >>> IT workers. Microsoft developers yes, but not professionals. >>> >> >> Sigh! Roland your remark is utter nonsens. Many lists courteously >> request to bottom post but also request clipping. Professional IT >> workers remove unnecessary wording from replies and adhere to >> courteously requested rules. >> Joep >> >> >> > > Roland, Permit me to disagree. If you need E-mails for court representation it is best to furnish the original E-mails not the parts of text in answers to E-mails. You answer the relevant portions of an E-mail as the originator has the original text. I don't think a court will accept the umptieth repeat of an original E-mail. But I live in the Netherlands and I have no idea how convoluted American lawyers and justices actually reason. Well, that goes for Dutch members of that kind also. It is a breed that I, as a simple scientist, not understand so therefore your reasoning might be right. Joep -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Draw extra slow with 4 slides
Thank you for your suggestion. Richard Osborn On 5/14/2011 07:56, plino wrote: I assume you are adding notes to a PDF (since you mention Adobe Acrobat) Since you are using Windows I would recommend for such a task the free program PDF Xchange Viewer. It is a lightweight PDF reader with annotation tools. The advantage over Draw is that it doesn't convert the PDF. The disadvantage is that you are adding object over the PDF (so you can't actually modify the objects in the PDF, if that is important for you). -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Draw-extra-slow-with-4-slides-tp2936703p2940292.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] HTML entities
How do I unsubscribe from this list? I have tried everything with no success. The note below: Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Makes no sense. What instructions??? E-mail WHAT to that address? HELP -- -Original Message- From: Amicale Salmson [mailto:amicale.salm...@free.fr] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 2:33 PM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] HTML entities Hi, I use LibreOffice Writer to convert word doc file to html. Is it normal that libreoffice do not use html entities? (é instead of é) I didn't have this problem with OOo LibreOffice 3.3.2 - Linux debian 64 Example : ééé Regards, Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org sms. -- Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Being polite was Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with spellcheck
I am replying to this once only on list. The atmosphere in a mailing list is set by the people in agreeing to abide by conventions of courtesy. One disagreeable poster cant taint the atmosphere for everyone else. Email lacks all the signals of body language. So it is even more important to avoid emotion in words. It is not an excuse to say that English is not the writer's first language. All languages have common words for 'stupid', 'illiterate', 'dumb', etc. Using these words transfers emotion in all languages. On 03/04/2011 03:13 AM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:41 AM, Tom Davies wrote: +1 Well said. Really? Which part - where he read sarcasm and insult into a perfectly neutral email offering assistance, or the part where you jumped in and did exactly the same thing and bragged about it? The mere fact that someone else supported what I said should be an indication to you that what you said was inappropriate. Your email was not neutral. If you are truly interested in discovering how to communicate in a less offensive manner, then an off-list question would have been appropriate. On-list you dig the hole deeper by coming off as defensive and insensitive. Sorry i can't help with the specific problem. Then kindly shut up and let people who can, do. Saying 'shut up' is emotional and impolite; it is an example of a non-neutral posting. Think! If the poster is saying he is not responding to the question, then he is clearly conveying the fact that he cares about the manner in which the posting was made. It is well documented and is apparently recommended that people uninstall OpenOffice before installing LibreOffice so it surprises me that anyone expects different. In certain circumstances, yes. In others, no. Many apologies for my colleagues rudeness but i fear that is the norm for this emailing list. I don't need an apologist, You most certainly do. but if I did, I'd find one who was actually good at it. Actually, the laid back approach worked fine with me, and if you had not come back with this posting, I would have said nothing more. So as an apologist he is good. That you didn't appreciate his response is something to be considered. Also, I consider people colleagues if they work with me, which, so far, I have not seen you do. As for the "norm," coming from someone who refuses to abide by ANY of the email list conventions and even pleads how inconvenient it is to provide good, clear instructions properly quoted so as to be legible to future list/archive readers, that's quite a statement. This is an ad hominem attack on the poster, meaning that since you don't like the message, you attack the messenger. Ad hominem is a common method for creating controversy (and in the internet era, flame wars) because you move away from the initial topic and introduce other things to get people annoyed about. The biggest problem with ad hominem attacks is when those reading them do not recognise the technique. Once you can categorise such attempts to provoke controversy as an oratorical mechanism used even in ancient Greece, the language looses its sting. But then you wonder about the motivations of the person who says such things. Smilies do not constitute good manners, nor are they a substitute for same. That's one reason I don't use them. But, I guess expecting anyone to be reasonable and not petty or petulant is beyond some people's grasp. The best way to explain a principle is to demonstrate it. But here assigning the words 'petty, petulant' to another person is the reverse of the principle. So, I agree smiles are no substitute for good manners, but neither are insinuations of pettiness, unreasonableness or petulance. For the record, if someone needs help and I can help, I say so; if someone is wrong and I know it, I say so. In this we are exactly the same. And that is what I am trying to do now. But please note, I am also trying to use words as mild as milk and pointing out general principles. If I don't know how to help but don't understand the problem because not enough information is present for me to do anything with it, I say so. I am with you in this too. And, if you think about it, that is exactly what the previous poster did when he said 'I cant help with the specific problem', but your reaction to that comment was ... (look and see). If I otherwise don't know how to help, I shut up and wait for someone who does to post, and then I try to learn from it if the subject is interesting to me. If you don't like it, pretend you can do that last part unless you can actually help, and do us all a favor and keep your opinions of other people on this list to yourself I have not said stated my opinion about anyone. That I said 'sarcasm is unwarranted' is not an opinion about a person, it is an opinion about a statement the person has made. There is a difference. People often say things without understanding the effect of their st
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with spellcheck
MR ZenWiz Your sarcasm is unwarranted! I can type, and I know how to do console installations. But I also read on the LibOffice official site that it was recommended to use the installation set up for specific distributions! Unfortunately, the LibOffice site did not point to your multiple postings. Furthermore, on numerous occasions I have suffered problems installing OpenOffice (from version 1 onwards) and I have had multiple versions of OOO installed, and I have suffered problems with that. Moreover, on the first installation of LibOffice using the recommended setup, the installation broke spell checking. It took me a day to find out how to fix it. LibOffice is a complex package and problems are likely, but it does not help anyone to be insulted. You may find it easy to deal with the situation, and you may have the solution, although you had to post a 'more robust' set of instructions, so it wasnt so easy after all. Knowing about all the problems entitles you to the title of guru. But I am not a guru, nor are the vast majority of people who want to use LibOffice. Richard On 03/02/2011 11:19 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Richard Hainsworth wrote: In the end, I discovered that the problem was not in LibO per se, but in the language support that LibO and OOO rely on. Since it is necessary (it may not be 'necessary', but you have to be a guru to get around it) to completely remove OOO in order to install LibO (at least this is the case for Ubuntu), the installation process broke the OS language support. The only time "it is necessary" to remove OOo to install LO is if you are using the LO PPA repository as opposed to the (not all that complicated, certainly not "guru" level) command line installation procedure. If you truly don't understand how to do a command line installation, I have posted in this list (twice, actually, the second time more robust than the first) a simple bash shell script that you can use to install any LO tarball. All you need to know is how to open a terminal, how to move into a directory, how to type the name of the shell script and your own password. It can't really be made any simpler -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with spellcheck
I battered away at this problem for nearly a day. In the end, I discovered that the problem was not in LibO per se, but in the language support that LibO and OOO rely on. Since it is necessary (it may not be 'necessary', but you have to be a guru to get around it) to completely remove OOO in order to install LibO (at least this is the case for Ubuntu), the installation process broke the OS language support. Now if you are running another OS, not Ubuntu, the fix that worked for me won't work, but you might look at the language support that LibO uses. On 02/28/2011 09:34 PM, Andrew McLean wrote: On 28/02/2011 16:58, Richard Hainsworth wrote: > This only causes problems if you have more than one possible module (I have en-gb and ru in addition to en-us). How can I check which modules I have ? But if a spellcheck has completed with nothing happening then no language module has been chosen. Type F7 and there is a box at the top which says which language has been selected. If there is nothing there, then suggestion below will work. This encapsulates my problem. I can't get at this box because there is anothe d. box in front of it which tells me that the spellcheck is complete. When I hit OK, BOTH db's disappear. I need to be able to access the 'F7' box and make use of it...I can't find out how to do this. AM -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with spellcheck
Language can be set in several places - default for all documents, default for document, and also for paragraph. This only causes problems if you have more than one possible module (I have en-gb and ru in addition to en-us). But if a spellcheck has completed with nothing happening then no language module has been chosen. Type F7 and there is a box at the top which says which language has been selected. If there is nothing there, then suggestion below will work. On 28/02/11 15:41, Sigrid Carrera wrote: Hi, On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:22:02 + am577 wrote: I have installed Libreoffice 3.3.1 on Windows 7, and I still have a problem which was there with OpenOffice: 1. Spellchecking usually does nothing. It says 'spellcheck complete' but it hasn't actually checked anything. 2. On a few documents, it works OK i.e. it is to do with a document setting, but I can't spot any difference between the option settings in the documents. spellcheck for which language? If you want to have anything other than en-US, you'll have to install the appropriate languagepack and helpfile in addition to the software package. Once you've installed all those packages, start LibO and go to "Tools> Options> Language" there you can set the UI language as well as the default language used in your documents. Check that everything is set to your preferred language. I think this helps. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check
From LibreOfficeForums. The problem arises in Ubuntu a) to get rid of all OpenOffice dependencies, purge is recommended. b) this kills bits of the spellchecker. So. Click on System/Administration/Language Support, which tells you bits are missing. Reinstall and spell works. On 27/02/11 15:15, Richard Hainsworth wrote: Further reading in libreoffice archives shows that this occurs. Maybe the problem is in the ubuntu ppa repo. Also when purging OpenOffice, hunspell was deleted too. Is Libreoffice dependent on hunspell? On 02/27/11 14:47, Richard Hainsworth wrote: I cant get the spell check to work. I am using Ubuntu 10.10. Added repositories for ppa. Purged openoffice. Then installed libreoffice and gnome additions. Then installed en-gb help and language modules. No spell checking at all. Not US not GB. What to do? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check
Further reading in libreoffice archives shows that this occurs. Maybe the problem is in the ubuntu ppa repo. Also when purging OpenOffice, hunspell was deleted too. Is Libreoffice dependent on hunspell? On 02/27/11 14:47, Richard Hainsworth wrote: I cant get the spell check to work. I am using Ubuntu 10.10. Added repositories for ppa. Purged openoffice. Then installed libreoffice and gnome additions. Then installed en-gb help and language modules. No spell checking at all. Not US not GB. What to do? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Spell check
I cant get the spell check to work. I am using Ubuntu 10.10. Added repositories for ppa. Purged openoffice. Then installed libreoffice and gnome additions. Then installed en-gb help and language modules. No spell checking at all. Not US not GB. What to do? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc hangs on Format/Cells [Windows]
Interesting. I'll have to give it another shot. Purge OOo321 and install LO33. And keep my fingers crossed. :) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > Yes, i think it would be better if LibreOffice could be installed alongside > OpenOffice to allow people to use either until fully satisfied with > LibreOffice. Also when a new release comes out people often want to > test-drive > the new one before removing the one they know works. The OpenSource world > is > generally keen to offer this type of option but sadly it doesn't work > easily yet > for OpenOffice/LibreOffice. > > Thanks for closing your bug-report. Definitely a good move :) > Many regard from > Tom :) > > > > > > > From: Luuk > To: users@libreoffice.org > Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 11:22:38 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc hangs on Format/Cells [Windows] > > > I closed my own bug report, because the problem is solved. > > It had to do with two office versions running on my computer. > > When i remove OpenOffice3.2 and LibreOffice3.3 > and re-installed LibreOffice3.3 > > everything works as it would be expected > > - > Windows7 / LibreOffice 3.3 330m19(Build:6) > -- > View this message in context: > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-hangs-on-Format-Cells-Windows-tp2382508p2388974.html > > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > users+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > users+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as *.doc
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Richard wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > >> Can you open Writer from the command-line and see if that gives anything >> useful? You might have done this already so ignore me if you have. >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> > > That's a thought. > I'll give it a try. Will report if I see anything other than normal > messages. > > Richard. > Have to remove OOo3.2.1. oowriter in a console ran OOo321. :) Guess that's why they say it's best to remove OOo. > From: Richard >> To: users@libreoffice.org >> Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 20:52:51 >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt >> as >> *.doc >> >> > >> > >> Sorry. Running the rc4, which according to the website is the final, >> on >> > >> Debian Squeeze, up-to-date. >> > > ... >> > > Is it with any .odt file? >> > ... >> > Using the crash21.odt in the bug report and File|Save as to Word >> > 97/2000/2003 (.doc) my LORC4 (linux gnome Ubuntu 10.10 2.4Ghz/3Gb) >> > doesn't crash, but instead just stalls taking up 94.5% cpu: >> > >> >> Just to make clear, the LO33 doesn't crash, it just fails to respond and >> CPU >> goes to ca. 75%. >> Clicking on the big X in the top right corner, brings up a dialog to >> either >> wait or quit, >> which kills the instance of LO33. It stalls and is unrecoverable. >> I guess that's pretty close to a crash. :) >> >> saludos, >> Richard. >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> users+h...@libreoffice.org >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ >> *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** >> >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> users+h...@libreoffice.org >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ >> *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** >> > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as *.doc
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Can you open Writer from the command-line and see if that gives anything > useful? You might have done this already so ignore me if you have. > Regards from > Tom :) > That's a thought. I'll give it a try. Will report if I see anything other than normal messages. Richard. > ________From: Richard > To: users@libreoffice.org > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 20:52:51 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt > as > *.doc > > > > > >> Sorry. Running the rc4, which according to the website is the final, > on > > >> Debian Squeeze, up-to-date. > > > ... > > > Is it with any .odt file? > > ... > > Using the crash21.odt in the bug report and File|Save as to Word > > 97/2000/2003 (.doc) my LORC4 (linux gnome Ubuntu 10.10 2.4Ghz/3Gb) > > doesn't crash, but instead just stalls taking up 94.5% cpu: > > > > Just to make clear, the LO33 doesn't crash, it just fails to respond and > CPU > goes to ca. 75%. > Clicking on the big X in the top right corner, brings up a dialog to either > wait or quit, > which kills the instance of LO33. It stalls and is unrecoverable. > I guess that's pretty close to a crash. :) > > saludos, > Richard. > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > users+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > users+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as *.doc
> > >> Sorry. Running the rc4, which according to the website is the final, on > >> Debian Squeeze, up-to-date. > > ... > > Is it with any .odt file? > ... > Using the crash21.odt in the bug report and File|Save as to Word > 97/2000/2003 (.doc) my LORC4 (linux gnome Ubuntu 10.10 2.4Ghz/3Gb) > doesn't crash, but instead just stalls taking up 94.5% cpu: > Just to make clear, the LO33 doesn't crash, it just fails to respond and CPU goes to ca. 75%. Clicking on the big X in the top right corner, brings up a dialog to either wait or quit, which kills the instance of LO33. It stalls and is unrecoverable. I guess that's pretty close to a crash. :) saludos, Richard. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as *.doc
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > I think my own approach would be to stick with OpenOffice 3.2 (well the > Go-oo > version) as that is still free and OpenSource. If i had time i would > probably > try to find out how people have been installing LibreOffice alongside OOo > without un-installing either. > > There is no need for you to apologise. Many thanks are due for all the > work you > have put into this already. Many people, including me, would probably not > have > done so much. People are keen to know more but you are under no obligation > to > do anything about that :) LibreOffice devs will get this fixed, hopefully > soon > - or at least before OOo goes proprietary (if that ever happens). Don't > worry! > > Many thanks and regards from > Tom :) > Now that didn't take long. :) Reinstalled LO33 and loaded and saved my problem document as Word 97/2000/XP and lo and behold it did it again! Locked up LO33 and ran the CPU up to about 75%. The other night I was in a hurry. Today, tried other files with no problems. Saving as *.odt then as *.doc (Word 97/2000/XP) Went back to the original and saved it under another name without problem. So, there is a problem, just not as serious as it could have been, and I have no idea what happen to damage the other document, but I'll keep watching. It may just be a problem on the hard disk, though it has never given any problems before. Who knows. I want to thank you all for you comments. They all made me think of the things I'd ignored in my haste to get the document sent. Haste does make waste. I'll continue on with LO3.3 looking for all the goodies I've been waiting for. saludos, Richard. > From: Richard > To: users@libreoffice.org > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 18:13:29 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as > *.doc > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Tom Davies >wrote: > > > I think he is probably busy getting on with work and just hoping things > > magically work soon. > > > > > > Things often do seem to get fixed in OpenSource stuff so it's a > legitimate > > approach if time is frustratingly limited. It can be annoying for people > > that > > want to trouble-shoot down to pinpoint the problem and fix it faster tho! > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > Hello Tom, > > Well, sort of. I went to Bugzilla, but didn't note the bug number, > because I didn't have too high hopes for an easy workaround. Sorry about > that. > > A search last night indicated that it had been observed in some rc's > so maybe it is a regression and will soon be fixed. One can hope. :) > > I removed LO3.3rc4 and reinstalled OOo3.2.1-11 from Debian repo, because I > had to send the file. > > In my opinion LibO33 is a tremendous improvement but I do have to save to > *.doc from time to time. > I've been using OpenOffice since before it would print. I have hoped that I > would never need MSO, > and so far it has been successful in that 99.99% of the time. > I know it takes time to find the problem and fix it or develop a > workaround, > especially when it seems > to only affect a few people. > > Since quite a few said they had no problem, I'll try again. Maybe it was > that particular file, > but that really is not an excuse for freezing on a simple 2 page doc with > some numbering? > > I run Debian Squeeze on a Pentium 4 clone with nothing out of the ordinary. > OOo3.2.1 has been the most glitch free for me. I've tried all the betas and > RCs of LibO but > have so far been unable to continue using it. My version 3.2.1 comes from > the Debian testing repository. > Granted it is based on the Go-OO version, but I understand that LibO is > also? > > So no, I don't have much more to offer than that it freezes and cranks up > the CPU > when saving an *.odt to a *.doc. I wish it didn't. I had dreamed that this > would be the > version that would work for me. > > I'm going to remove OOo once again and reinstall LibO3.3 one more time on > my > production desktop. > If I see an actual error message, I will visit Bugzulla again and file a > more substantial issue. > I will keep my fingers crossed, throw salt over my shoulder, rub my lucky > rabbits foot and try once more. > > Thanks for the commiseration. > > regards, > Richard. > > > > > > From: Cor Nouws > > To: users@libreoffice.org > > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 16:23:59 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as *.doc
And it could be as simple as a permissions problem. I was just in a bit of a hurry and having only 1 machine hooked to the printer my choices were limited. Will advise later this evening after reinstalling. Still seeding the torrent so I know the download is good. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as *.doc
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > I think he is probably busy getting on with work and just hoping things > magically work soon. > > > Things often do seem to get fixed in OpenSource stuff so it's a legitimate > approach if time is frustratingly limited. It can be annoying for people > that > want to trouble-shoot down to pinpoint the problem and fix it faster tho! > > Regards from > Tom :) > Hello Tom, Well, sort of. I went to Bugzilla, but didn't note the bug number, because I didn't have too high hopes for an easy workaround. Sorry about that. A search last night indicated that it had been observed in some rc's so maybe it is a regression and will soon be fixed. One can hope. :) I removed LO3.3rc4 and reinstalled OOo3.2.1-11 from Debian repo, because I had to send the file. In my opinion LibO33 is a tremendous improvement but I do have to save to *.doc from time to time. I've been using OpenOffice since before it would print. I have hoped that I would never need MSO, and so far it has been successful in that 99.99% of the time. I know it takes time to find the problem and fix it or develop a workaround, especially when it seems to only affect a few people. Since quite a few said they had no problem, I'll try again. Maybe it was that particular file, but that really is not an excuse for freezing on a simple 2 page doc with some numbering? I run Debian Squeeze on a Pentium 4 clone with nothing out of the ordinary. OOo3.2.1 has been the most glitch free for me. I've tried all the betas and RCs of LibO but have so far been unable to continue using it. My version 3.2.1 comes from the Debian testing repository. Granted it is based on the Go-OO version, but I understand that LibO is also? So no, I don't have much more to offer than that it freezes and cranks up the CPU when saving an *.odt to a *.doc. I wish it didn't. I had dreamed that this would be the version that would work for me. I'm going to remove OOo once again and reinstall LibO3.3 one more time on my production desktop. If I see an actual error message, I will visit Bugzulla again and file a more substantial issue. I will keep my fingers crossed, throw salt over my shoulder, rub my lucky rabbits foot and try once more. Thanks for the commiseration. regards, Richard. > > From: Cor Nouws > To: users@libreoffice.org > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 16:23:59 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as > *.doc > > Luuk wrote (28-01-11 17:12) > > > And Richard could run into this 'special case'. (we dont know, > > because too less info) > > And since he didn't answer -up until now- we basically know nothing :-) > > Cor > > -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > users+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > users+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as *.doc
Sorry. Running the rc4, which according to the website is the final, on Debian Squeeze, up-to-date. I use it, as many do, for translation and colaborative work with corporations. It is unrealistic to ask them all to download LO, nor OOo, nor anything else. One must comply with their guidelines or look for work in other places. If I were independently wealthy, I would not have this problem and could use what ever suits me. I will download the LO 3.3 Final, just in case there were actually changes, and give it another shot. I do hope you're right, because it seemed much smoother, quicker, nicer than OOo3.2.1. But maybe I just want it to be better. Thanks for the feedback. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Luuk wrote: > On 28-01-11 03:31, Richard wrote: > > This was a bug in a previous beta or rc. > > Have to go back to OOo3.2.1 again. > > Waiting for the 3.3.1. > > And the LO33 is so great except for that. :(( > > > > you are probably talking about this bug: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33050 > > it still NOT has status SOLVED.. ;) > > -- > Windows 7 / LibreOffice 3.3 330m19(Build:6) > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > users+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] LibO3.3 hangs up when saving an *.odt as *.doc
This was a bug in a previous beta or rc. Have to go back to OOo3.2.1 again. Waiting for the 3.3.1. And the LO33 is so great except for that. :(( -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] horrizantal ruler measurement in pixels instead of mm, cm, inch
Hi, Tom, As Adobe appears to do, can you provide an option as it may confuse the user of one system if they are forced in to the measurement of the other? I really like TDF's approach to this. Cheers, Richard On 2011-01-27 8:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote: In this case of DPI& pixels as measurements i think we have to accept the measurement as defined by MicroSoft rather than the slightly more sensible Mac definitions. -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] horrizantal ruler measurement in pixels instead of mm,cm,inch
On 2011-01-27 7:56 AM, arun kumar wrote: yes,but my blog's post-body width always remains same because the template is designed like that. What i'm trying to tell you is that i want to set the ruler to be in the same measurement of pixels. Almost every webpage or blog template has pixels as units. Hello, Arun, I feel your pain on this. It raises a large philosophical issue which I have outlined in another post and, thankfully, I don't have to solve it, but I know what my response would be in a customer/client-centric situation--the same as Adobe's. However, this begs the issue in my mind of the universality of the Web and the ability of the end-user to customize the page to their liking. As I said in a previous post, as I age and especially working as a computer "geek" for someone who has had their vision impaired by a horse-riding accident, I hope that the web page templates are not forcing a specific text size for the content. In FireFox, I can zoom in and out using + or - keys on the numeric keypad. In the View>Zoom submenu, I can select an option so that the zoom only applies to text. When that option is off (default), both the text and the images zoom together. There is also a plug-in that I have and use for FF that allows zooming of images alone (not surprisingly, it's called ImageZoom ). In Furthermore, pages rarely look the same in FireFox and Internet Explorer and if one forces a specific pixel size to attempt to make the page look the same and it locks out the zoom capability, then, I fear, those whose vision is not as good as yours will be frustrated with the experience. Cheers, Richard -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] horrizantal ruler measurement in pixels...philosophy
On 2011-01-27 8:05 AM, Cley Faye wrote: The thing is, good design practice tend to avoid doing things with pixel as the measurement units, for the reason explained in this thread. For example, if your display is set to a specific DPI, having a pixel settings in libreoffice would allow you to set the text exactly like you want... but if someone browsing your website have another settings, your text will be all off for this user. For those reason i don't think it make much sense to add a "pixel" unit in LibreOffice, as it will be dependant of a given DPI setting anyway. For your issue, you might want to either translate your "pixel" settings in cm (or anything) while editing the document, or properly design your site to use those unit instead of fixed pixel settings... Hello, Cley, I was thinking about this and, indeed, Photoshop has pixels available and has two different option settings: For rulers, they offer: pixels, inches, cm, mm, points, picas, percent For type, they offer: pixels, points, mm Then there is an option for Point/Pica size of either - PostScript (72 points/inch - Traditional (72.27 points/inch) This is from version CS, which is what I have handy here (I do have CS5 on my photo computer, but it's not booted at the moment. I am of mixed mind about offering options (and I'm not doing the coding, so the labour to do it isn't an issue with me ). - (1) The available options should make sense and enforce good design practice - (2) This is a tool and the user knows what they want/need and the software should make an effort to accommodate user's wishes (1), I fear, is a very rigorous approach and people generally don't like to be told how to work--they don't like modifying their behaviour to the tool. (2) is certainly a customer-centric approach but the downside is that it makes the code more complex and contributes to a major criticism of the market-leader office suite: that it is bloatware. While I agree with your reply, Cley, (it seems as if you are agreeing with my reply), I'm wondering philosophically how TDF wishes to approach the question. I think, if it doesn't cost much effort, adding it as an option at least has precedent and it might make Arun's life easier. I don't think it hurts anything and the documentation could explain the conversion factor of how the pixel count is arrived at. Not knowing the internals of LO/OOo, I wonder if this isn't just at a user interface level anyway. I think MSO uses 1/1440 of an inch as the internal increment, but that goes back 20 years to a little study I did on the Word format as I was investigating writing my own printer drivers for Word 5 for DOS. An interesting aside, I think LO is more consistent between the spreadsheet application and the word processing application in measuring widths than MSO. If I recall, width changes in Excel when the font size (or the default font size) changes! Cheers, Richard I believe that PhotoShop deserves its market share and it is one of a handful of programs I'm not looking for a freeware alternative for. It is interesting to note that they offer this option. I also THINK they offer it in InDesign as well. -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] horrizantal ruler measurement in pixels instead of mm,cm,inch
Hello, Arun, I think you'll find that using 72 pixels per inch (or the equivalent in metric) will get you close to what you want. A pixel or dot is relative and in printing the dpi (dots per inch) are specified for halftones in a given publication. Plus, when viewed in a web browser, you never know how the user has "text size" set, so there are really no guarantees how the page will look to any given user. The user needs that adjustment to walk the tightrope between their visual acuity and a useful amount of information on the screen and their physical screen size. I have become acutely aware of this (a) as I age and (b) since a friend of mine had an accident that affected their vision. Cheers, Richard On 2011-01-27 7:12 AM, arun kumar wrote: But the blog or webpage's width or height is measured in pixels. On 1/27/11, Luuk wrote: On 27-01-11 12:52, arun kumar wrote: Hi, I want to use Libre Office to write posts to my blogger blog. I write the posts using Libre office and save them as html file and use a simple desktop client i wrote to post to blogger. My Blog post body width is 570 pixels wide. I want to set the horizontal ruler in my LibreOffice to pixels instead of cm,mm and inches in such a way that it looks similar to my blog post's body. 'pixels' is not a defined way to measure something, because you will not know how many pixels you have on an inch (or cm) DPI is, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch) -- Windows 7 / LibreOffice 3.3 330m19(Build:6) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] And yet another .pps that Impress doesn't do right
It does not crash in LO 3.3.0.2 under Windows XP but the display is pretty jerky and needs an extra "move ahead" click whereas it shows fine on PP2003 under XP. The jerkiness might be the slower machine for LO and the RDP connection, but I don't think that contributes to the need for a second punch. On 2011-01-20 10:11 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: This darling .pps file causes LO rc3 not only to crash, but on every attempt to recover, it crashes again, which pretty much crippled my LO installation completely. I'm downloading rc4, but this is a serious problem since every attempt to restart LO results in the recovery, followed immediately by reopening the "crashed" files, which then causes LO to crash again. This .pps runs fine in OOo 3.2.1. I've posted this one here: http://zentektales.com/only_there.pps I hope LO rc4 will fix this -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] download
Hallo, I live in Germany but for my work I need Libre Office in English. Would like to switch from Open Office but so far I haven't been able to download Libre in American English. I keep getting the German version. Would appreciate any tips. I'm sure it's quite easy, I'm just missing something. Thanks in advance Richard -- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Very unhappy camper
On 2010-12-31 8:18 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: TDF is FOR and not AGAINST: FOR free software, FOR the user, FOR document freedom, FOR open standards, and not AGAINST proprietary software, AGAINST corporations, AGAINST document lock in, AGAINST closed document formats and standards. Hi, Italo, I think it would be clearer if the above wonderful statement read: TDF is FOR and NOT AGAINST: FOR free software, FOR the user, FOR document freedom, FOR open standards, and NOT AGAINST proprietary software, NOT AGAINST corporations, NOT AGAINST document lock in, NOT AGAINST closed document formats and standards. We will win being positive, they will lose being negative. What a great thought for the new year. Happy New Year, all! Cheers, Richard -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] advice
For a very long time, the U.S. Government used Word Perfect over MS Office. I was doing a lot of Gov't contract work in the 1980s and 1990s and had to convert everything to Word Perfect (or write in it). I think with Windows, they went to MS Office. Word Perfect moved from Utah to Canada sometime when Corel bought them and it does, indeed, have a loyal following here, but the one user (a writer/editor) who I help support who bemoans her loss of WP to live in an MS-centric world also is upset over the loss of Eudora for Thunderbird. As far as title pages go, I don't even see compatibility with "fancy" graphics among installs of MS Office of the same alleged version (i.e. 2003 to 2003) on different machines or on different printers. My two boys have come up with constructs in MS Word that self-corrupt and other things. I don't think they've switched between 2003 and 2007, but perhaps. I found I could only open one document in Word 2010 that my younger son had created in 2003. For some reason, teachers are impressed with doodads and geegaws on title pages. I find complete compatibility between MS Word and LO or OOO when I carefully use styles and have strict adherence to straight-line text. Once I start placing images or other stuff, then all bets are off. I've seen many corruptions in Word over the years from my writer/editor friend. I even rescued the text of an entire book for a church minister in the late 1990s from a Word corruption. We lost the formatting but recovered all the text and it went on to be published. A thought for your title pages: make a jpg or png graphic that you drop in for most/all of it--but even then, mixing a graphic with text can create some unexpected results, especially if you treat it other than an "inline with text" arrangement. Based on my now-more-limited use of a word processor, so far, I do think that Word 2010 is the most stable version yet, especially running under Windows 7, but I'm trying to wean myself from the MS products and am using LO far more and with fine results. There are enough differences in menu structure/ways of doing things (though not as much as between Word 2003 and Word 2007) in LO/OOO that I'd prefer not to go back and forth. However, if you work in a Word environment--as I tell my writer/editor friend--your best bet is using the same version of Word as your client is using. My favourite version of Word is 2003, as it is the one I've used the most and know the best. Cheers, Richard On 2010-12-28 10:08 AM, bill topp wrote: i don't use openoffice. with the exception of some screwball canadians who appear to be using wordperfect every individual to whom i send a business document uses microsoft word. i am a wordsmith, i have little use for graphics. however my document headings are formatted to give a decent title page. i found that when i created a simple title page in openoffice and saved it in .doc format and then opened it with my microsoft word even the simple text box and drawn black lines came back scrambled. when i opened a word document in openoffice it looked perfect, but then when i simply saved it and re-opened it in word it was scrambled again. -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Bete 3.3: Strange wiggly lines when viewing a file.
Hello, Maurice, This is a whole philosophy thing...and it goes back to Microsoft Word for DOS, I believe, if not earlier. The general philosophy is that structural/style items like indents at the beginning of every paragraph should be set up in the paragraph formatting and not keyed in for each paragraph. If you need some paragraphs indented and some not, then you need to set up two separate "styles". I'll admit to not studying styles in LO yet, but it is a very powerful feature--that few use--in MSO. Cheers, Richard On 2010-11-30 7:12 AM, Maurice Batey wrote: I don't want to turn grammar checking off, but the marker lines at the beginning of every paragraph are distracting... -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Survey: Usage of LibreOffice components
The quick starter is there by default, so I use it, but LO and Ooo take forever to start vs. the other suite in Windows. One thing I like about the quick starter is that it gives me one button to have on my desktop and it's a good as a jumping off point for non-application-centric documents which, I think, is one of the LO goals. I find LO and OOO just fine for my one-person business and my associations work. Its interchangeability with MSWord is fine for simple things, but not great for complex documents. I do have the home/student version of Word 2010 which saved the day for something my son had done in Word 2003 that wouldn't open any more and wouldn't open in LO either. It was too complex with text boxes, etc. Writer - 40% Calc - 40% Impress - 13 % Base - 3 % Math - 2 % Draw - 2 % I am used to Visio and will continue to use an aging version of it, but I don't find Draw an easy substitute for quick drawing as compared with the Visio stencils. I am trying to live in an open source environment and feel that LO/OOO certainly meet my needs for business work. Thunderbird is working well for email, and Firefox is working well as a browser (except for the websites that require Internet Explorer, but that's now part of the OS ). I am heavily invested in Samplitude Pro for audio and PhotoShop CS5 and PhotoShop Lightroom and don't see moving any of those to Open Source anytime soon. I am enjoying Carte du ciel as a replacement on the Win 7 machine for the aging SkyMap that I bought back in Win3.1 days. Stellarium has some good features for showing the sky to my family, but Cdc is a much much better mapping program. That's it for my open source transition--more or less. LO is a key component. Cheers, Richard On 2010-11-28 1:09 PM, Sebastian G. wrote: I'd like to know which components are most used and maybe why others are not. If you used OpenOffice before you can include your usage data as well. Do you use the quick starter? -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Calc Printing bug with Print Preview
This is probably known, but there appears to be unexpected print functionality. When I put calc into Print Preview with only one (of many) sheets selected, I still see the entire workbook, not just the sheet when I go into Print from Print Preview. When I go directly to Print (not via Print Preview) the "Print only selected sheets" choice in the Options dialogue is respected. I would expect that if I chose (checked) "Print only selected sheets" it would work the same if I went to Print via Print Preview OR directly to Print. LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m9 (Build:1) libreoffice-build 3.2.99.2 I am so excited by this move and the product. Cheers, Richard -- Richard L. Hess email: rich...@richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -- E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
