Re: [libreoffice-users] Match cell against any of range of regexes?
Hi Stephan, On 01/07/11 10:00, Stephan Zietsman wrote: I've had a look at the spreadsheet, and tried a few formulas. It seems that to do this with formulas is quite tricky and unfortunately I couldn't get it done. I tried a few different approaches and I think it is technically possible. However, I also think that it would take quite some time to write such a formula (if it is indeed possible). As was mentioned before, it can be done with macros. Would you consider using a macro instead? Continued thanks for all your efforts. If I could whip up a macro like buttered toast I'd do so, but unfortunately for me that would first involve giving myself a grounding in writing bespoke LO macros. I can however write a bit of Perl, and I've started trying to tackle the problem that way :-) Although I think I'll have to finish the current batch by hand for now, because unlike writing code at least that has a definite end point... LO macros would definitely be a good skill to learn eventually, even if it's not at the top of my todo list at the moment. I haven't yet searched for any tutorials or the like, but I'd be interested to hear if you have any personal favourites which you think would suit someone who knows general programming and just needs an intro to the syntax, conventions and frameworks / objects involved in LO scripting. That said, I've noticed there are at least four different languages one can use. I don't know if any of them would allow writing scripts which are broadly cross-compatible with other office suites (even if a little tweaking is needed) but my preference would be for that, so I could help non-LO-using friends and such. Thanks again and best regards, --Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Match cell against any of range of regexes?
Hi all, Is the operation in the subject line possible? More info (maybe I'm asking the wrong question): I have a (long) list of URLs, and want to categorise them. The categories themselves could be pretty broad: news sites, search engines, music sites, etc. Similar URLs (different pages on the same site) come up many times. So what I'd like to do is define regexes to say If the URL has 'guardian.co.uk' in it, make it a 'News' site. Sheet 1 (list to process; I want to insert the categorising function in col B) A | B google.com cnn.com/foo guardian.co.uk/foo duckduckgo.com cnn.com/bar/baz bing.com Sheet 2 (columns of site name regexes; col A is news sites, B is search engines, etc) A | B cnn | google guardian | duckduckgo | bing The SEARCH function doesn't seem to take a range or array as its findtext. Any ideas on how to go about this? Many thanks! --Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Match cell against any of range of regexes?
Hi Stephan, On 30/06/11 15:22, Stephan Zietsman wrote: could you possibly upload a sample file to look at? I have a possible idea of what to do, but I think the best way for me to check would be by using an example. Thank you very much for the offer (and the upload site tip). http://www.2shared.com/file/406vLMbP/URL_categoryMatch_example.html This is set up pretty much how I'd like it to work (without the looong list of input on the first sheet). I wasted half my day Googling this and trying various things, and the IRC channel has declared it impossible without a macro. If you've thought of a winning formula I'll be hugely grateful! Bests, --Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Match cell against any of range of regexes?
Hi Jorge, On 30/06/11 17:16, jorge wrote: El jue, 30-06-2011 a las 10:09 -0600, jorge escribió: I would suggest to do as this (If you have order the information as you explain and show in your e-mail): 1) Sheet 1: [...] Thanks for your explanation. I get what you were saying, but what I'm looking for really is a way to avoid having to look at each and every URL in column A and in column B say which category they're in, whether that's indicated with a number or with the word 'news', 'search engine' etc. I don't think I explained the problem very well to begin with, especially with my poor attempt at representing sheets with text (I forgot I could switch Thunderbird's mail editor to not use rich text :s) You might get a better idea of what I'm after by looking at the example file ( http://www.2shared.com/file/406vLMbP/URL_categoryMatch_example.html ) but of course you've already spend time writing two emails, for which I'm very grateful :-) Bests, --Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Preserve non-sequential numbering?
Hello all, Rather than spending a lot on statue books I'll only use once, I'm compiling a collection of legislation I need for an upcoming exam by taking the relevant provisions from a government website and arranging them in LO. I've defined a Numbering Style for all headings: Act title, part number, crossheading, provision number, sub-provision. I only need certain provisions from different Acts - Charities Act provision 13, Trustees Act provision 2, etc. At first I tried arranging everything in the same document, but I found that even if I selected a certain provision (provision A)and explicitly started the numbering where I wanted (eg 13, by right-click Numbering/Bullets Options tab Start at ), this would change if I start inserting new provisions (provision B) from a different Act above provision A in the document. Then I thought I might be able to get around it by using a Master Document with sub-documents, but the numbering of provisions is still interdependent because they all use the same styles. I realise most of you will read the above and say, Well, obviously - that it's all correct behaviour! It's just me having an awkward use-case where when I tell something to be number 13, I want it to stay number 13... In terms of behaviour I was a little surprised that the Master Document solution didn't work, and more surprised that options set with right-click Numbering/Bullet seem to affect the style itself, rather than the particular instance. As far as I can make out, this is in contrast to the behaviour of right-click Paragraph options. Is there any way I can get round this? Sections or something? Or will I just have to keep /completely/ separate documents and print them all one at a time? Cheers, --Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Same-line headings? (feature discussion)
On 12/05/11 05:24, toki wrote: On 11/05/2011 16:19, Ryan Jendoubi wrote I've seen in certain textbooks a style where a 'heading' will take the form of the first sentence of a paragraph. This seems impossible to do in LO, Tutorial can be found at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29t=709 Ha, never say never! Thank you for solving my immediate problem :-) Do you think that a 'native' way to do inline headings is unnecessary then? I'd accept that most people who really want them would have the technical capacity to follow those instructions, but there are certain disadvantages, like the extra steps involved in editing the heading text, having to account for the space introduced by the 'invisible' line, etc. I thought Todd's idea sounded very elegant: just introduce a character-level marker that would 'eat' a preceding newline (if that's a legitimate summary), which would be much better for his caption use-case. In the meantime, this is a very clever solution. -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Same-line headings? (feature discussion)
Hello all, I've seen in certain textbooks a style where a 'heading' will take the form of the first sentence of a paragraph. This seems impossible to do in LO, since all Heading styles used for Outline purposes are paragraph styles. Is there any way around this? I can't think of one; I think it would be a feature to add. I think it could potentially be achieved by making the 'newline' after paragraph styles optional. I know that could possibly break a lot of logic, but in the process of implementing it it would be interesting to look into another problem people have, whereby they would like the spacing after a paragraph to only appear when the following paragraph is a different style - in essence, to have attributes of paragraph styles conditional on context. It's been noted elsewhere that this ability would remove the need to have a set of three styles for list paragraphs (Start, Cont, End). This is just daydreaming but it seems to me these two features might have some relation to each other. Thoughts? Cheers, --Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ellison's Oracle washes hands of OpenOffice
On 16/04/11 07:09, aqualung wrote: [...] It could be risky for them to reveal much while the situation is in flux. At the same time there are hundreds of thousands of users who are probably quite anxious to find out what's in the cards for their preferred office software. I thought ODF was meant to free people from software lock-in? ;-) -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] question
Hi Csenger, On 13/04/11 09:06, Csenger Attila Szabó wrote: I know that those who get used to the menu-style won't like any other solution, but you are not the only ones. So what about the plugin/extension thing? To answer your original question, I think it's safe to say that no-one is planning to make LibreOffice look like MS Office 2007/10. That said, the LibreOffice developers include You, since it's all developed in the open. So if you think a lot of people would benefit from your idea, get stuck in. Something like changing the whole GUI is a huge task, and I'd actually be surprised if you could achieve such a thing with the extension system. However, there's been some talk on the Development wiki (admittedly on the Crazy Ideas page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas) of refactoring LO to use an external cross-platform GUI library. I think wxWidgets is a better choice than Qt (as commented on the wiki), and I know wxWidgets has a Ribbon interface that could be useful for doing what you describe. Check it out, it was a GSoC project: http://www.corsix.org/content/ribbon-summer-code So... go learn C++, refactor the entire LO codebase, *then* you can have your ribbon :p Bests, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] question
Hi Csenger, On 13/04/11 09:55, Csenger Attila Szabó wrote: Unfortunately I can't program in any language, yet, because in this year I'll go to university and learn it. :) Y'don't need no fancy university to learn coding! Go search learn C++ or C++ tutorial and get started :-) I've never learned programming formally... which explains why I'm not great at it!... but really I think learning by doing is better than learning in a class. And that's more true for programming than almost anything else because All the tools and resources and peers and mentors you could need are right at your fingertips. I'm particularly enjoying exploring the LibreOffice codebase 'cause they've got an OpenGrok set up, as well as Doxygen. Have a look around (I've linked to what I'm looking at currently): http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/writer/sw/source/ui/index/toxmgr.cxx#UpdateOrInsertTOX http://docs.libreoffice.org/sw/html/classSwSection.html Yesterday I set up Cscope so I can get those kinds of benefits directly from Vim (http://cscope.sourceforge.net/) Seriously, jump in. It'll put you five steps ahead for your upcoming formal studies Plus it's Fun, damnit :-) I thought a new GUI wouldn't be too hard to create, because no change would be in functionality, it just looks otherwise. That's would be the ideal :-) Depends how well the code is structured though. I know for instance the designers of Ardour pride themselves on the fact that the GUI is completely separable from the backend engines. I just wouldn't take it for granted, especially with something of the size and complexity of LO. I hope someone will be willing to help me in this project. And I'm asking those who don't like the ribbon to be open-minded, because this is (or would be) the power of open-source Well, code is law after all. Fastest way to be listened to is make a proof of concept. See over-optimistic encouragement above ;-) -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] INCLUDETEXT
Hi Joseph, On 05/04/11 17:38, Joseph Nierenberg wrote: Unfortunately, the solution does not seem to work. Hm. I tried it again, and it's working for me! I'll write below exactly what I did to test it. First though... I played around with inserting sections, both as links and as links/DDE, but that didn't seem to work, either. Yea, I couldn't get that one to work. Specifically, the conditions in the source document don't get applied automatically to the target document. So let's stay with conditional fields rather than sections. Source document = where the text I want to include resides Target document = where I want the included text to appear When I copied the text of the source document and special pasted it into the target document, doing so as a LO Writer object inserted the whole text. But doing so as a DDE object, which is what you suggested, does... nothing. Nothing appears in editing mode, nor in page preview mode. (I didn't look at the XML, because if the functionality isn't there, I don't really care what's under the hood.) Special pasting the DDE link onto an existing piece of text in the target document deletes the pre-existing text but replaces it with nothing. Here's what I just did to test: 1. Ctrl-n to create a new document in Writer. 2. Ctrl-F2 for Insert Fields, tab over to the Functions tab, going for a Conditional Text. 3. Say my username (hence the name to which Writer attributes documents by default) is Ryan. To test, first put in an erroneous username: Condition: user_firstname == alf Then: Hi Ryan! Else: You're not Ryan. 4. Insert, Close. For me, this now shows: You're not Ryan. 5. Put cursor to start of the field, then Alt-E, i for Edit Fields... 6. In the Condition input box, change alf to Ryan, hit Enter Text in the document now shows: Hi Ryan! 7. Save document as doc1.odt. 8. Ctrl-n for new document. 9. Save it as doc2.odt. 10. Go back to doc1, select all, Copy. 11. Go back to doc2, Ctrl-Shift-v to bring up the Paste Special dialogue box. DDE Link is the last option, select it and hit enter. doc2 now says this too: Hi Ryan! 12. Save and close doc2. 13. In doc1, edit our field again so that the Then text field reads simply: Salutations! 14. Hit Enter to get out of the Edit Fields: Functions dialogue and apply the change to the document. doc1 should now just say: Salutations! 15. Save and close doc1. 16. Open doc2. Presented with a dialogue that says: This document contains one or more links to external data. Would you like to change the document, and update all linsk to get the most recent data? [ Yes ] [ No ]. Choose Yes. doc2 now says: Salutations! So, that's all I have to go on. I'd be happy to look at some minimal non-working examples if you want to send them off-list. (Even if it worked, it would be a little kludgy, because a user would have to first go to the source document to copy. If the target is a template, that wouldn't be too difficult, but it's not the same as browsing and clicking.) I am in complete agreement with you there. All the best, -r Joe On 1:59 PM, Ryan Jendoubi wrote: Hi Joe, On 28/03/11 19:39, Joe Nierenberg wrote: I would like to include text from a closed file into the open file. However, rather than have all of the text there, reproduced in the open file, I want only the field name. (The reason is that it is conditional text, that might not always be included.) According to my searches, there is no LO Writer equivalent to MS Word's INCLUDETEXT field; there is only the menu command to insert a file, which gives the entire text. Ideas? I /might/ have found an answer for this. The answer came from finding out what DDE actually stands for. From the Writer help: DDE DDE stands for Dynamic Data Exchange, which is a predecessor of OLE, Object Linking and Embedding. With DDE, objects are linked through file reference, but not embedded. You can create a DDE link using the following procedure: Select cells from a Calc spreadsheet, copy them into the clipboard and switch to another spreadsheet and select the *Edit - Paste Special* dialogue box. Select *the Link* option to insert the contents as a DDE link. When activating a link, the inserted cell area will be read from its original file. I did this, copying a footnote field from one document and paste-special-ing it into another (Ctrl-Shift-v). While editing, the pasted field seems to contain only the text DDE field but a print preview shows that it contains the proper value. In order to get the fields to update you have to go Tools Update Links rather than Tools Update Fields, so F9 doesn't do it (under the default config). Also, links sometimes appear to become disconnected (right-click Fields...: 'Status' column for link no longer says 'Automatic'). I haven't been able to work out when / why exactly this happens. I haven't tried this with conditional fields. I would be very interested to know
Re: [libreoffice-users] I am downloading LibreOffice to try it out.
Hello Landis, On 07/04/11 16:34, Landis Gurney wrote: Is there a module like MS Outlook, that can be tied into MS Exchange mailboxes? I also use MS Access to tie into another database's tables through ODBC, is that feature available? LibreOffice doesn't include an email client. I would suggest you try out Mozilla Thunderbird instead :-) http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/ Bests, -- Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I am downloading LibreOffice to try it out.
Hello Diane, On 07/04/11 17:25, Diane Marie wrote: I have no idea what this means: LibreOffice doesn't include an email client. I would suggest you try out Mozilla Thunderbird instead :-) Microsoft Outlook / Outlook Express are just email clients. Email clients are just programs that you run on your own computer, which download your email for you so you can read it. The alternative to using an email client is using webmail - viewing your email on the web somewhere, like Hotmail or Gmail. So what I was saying was no, LibreOffice does not include an email module as you called it (it's more accurate to call them applications than modules). And I was suggesting that if you want an alternative email client to any flavour of Outlook, you could try Thunderbird, which is a widely used, mature application developed by Mozilla, who also make the Firefox web browser. To get a response to my original question, I enabled MS outlook Espress. That didn't work? I don't know what you mean here. But in any case, this mailing list is not for help with Outlook or general tech support, so if you're having a problem with Outlook you'll have to ask elsewhere. Bests, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Pie chart in .doc not showing.
Hi again Steve, On 30/03/11 22:14, Steve Edmonds wrote: I have a report in .doc format that has some pie charts (which seem to be from an embedded sheet). These show the labels but no pie in Suse 11.0 X-64, LO3.3.0, 3.3.2, OOO3.2.1. These show ok in OSX 10.6.7, LO3.3.1 Just upgrading the mac to LO3.3.2 the pies no longer show. Something seems to have been fixed in 3.3.1 and then undone in 3.3.2. I've been trying to reproduce your symptoms. I can confirm that the pie doesn't show in LO3.3.2 on Ubuntu 10.4. Nor did the bars in the bar chart. As I said, I've set up a LO build environment in the hope of narrowing down the regression between 3.3.1 and 3.3.2. Unfortunately I've just built 3.3.1 and the pie is still not showing in my system - although annoyingly, the bars in the bar chart Are now showing. Would have been nice if it were the same issue at play for both types of chart, ey? Questions now: 1) Did the bars in the bar chart show on your systems in 3.3.1 / 3.3.2? 2) What was the exact version of 3.3.1 which worked for you? The one I've built is: LibreOffice 3.3.1 OOO330m19 (Build:8) You can get this info in Help About LibreOffice Considering the difficulties I've had so far getting old versions to build, I have to again entreat you not to get your hopes up. But just maybe we'll be able to discover something and make things just a bit better for all LO users. All the best, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] The text:s/ tag
Hi James, On 04/04/11 08:31, James Wilde wrote: If this is a double post I apologise. I can't see that the original message has appeared, neither in my in-box (no, I don't use gmail) nor in nabble. I didn't see a double post :-) I have had a problem arise in connection with converting an odt file to another format, mobi. The problem is apparently caused by a mistranslation of a tag which occurs very often in LibO (and OOo) documents, the text:s/ tag. Can someone please give me a pointer to a document that includes and explains this tag. I found this: http://books.evc-cit.info/oobook/ch03.html Look under the Whitespace heading. It looks like an oversight in the OASIS spec that text:s isn't actually spelt out, although they take the time to spell out text:c. Does OASIS have a pretty open participation system like the IETF? Sounds like you should submit a patch for their docs which explains things better, after getting confirmation that link I found is accurate. The front page of that subdomain indicates that the material was originally published 30 Jul 2004, although the online version /may/ have been updated since then. Good luck, let us know how you get on. -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] broken documenatation link
Hi \_w_/, On 04/04/11 05:47, * William wrote: I want to report a broken link on the get-help page. This link to 'download documenation' falls over: - http://www.libreoffice.org/get-helphttp://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ (works) - http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ (goes clunk 404) Well spotted! On http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/, there's another list called webs...@libreoffice.org. I'd suggest reporting it there, just in case those folks don't pay close attention to the users list. Bests, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't open files with special characters on their pathname
Hello Gabriel, On 01/04/11 14:15, gabspeck wrote: I'm using LibreOffice 3.3.2 on Ubuntu 10.10 (with the packages from the official PPA). Whenever I try to open a file with special characters on their pathname (such as é, á), LibreOffice pops up the following message: does not exist. However, it displays the pathname with garbled characters in place of the special characters. For instance, for a file located at /home/gabriel/Documentos/editáveis/documento.odt, the message is: /home/gabriel/Documentos/edit??veis/documento.odt does not exist. My LANG is set to en_US.utf8. Has anyone else ran into this issue I could not reproduce this on Ubuntu 10.4. I created a folder called editáveis like you did and tried an é in the file name, and everything seemed to work fine, both by using File Recent, File Open and clicking on the file in Nautilus. However, I've been uninstalling reinstalling new LibreOffice versions manually from the .debs rather than using any PPA. My version information in Help About LibreOffice is: LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2 Is this the version you're using? Which of the three methods I mentioned are you using to open the document? Thanks, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Some ideas regarding LibreOffice development
Hi Ilya, On 30/03/11 23:48, Ilya Chernykh wrote: I just want to propose two ideas regarding LibreOffice which I feel important. First, I think it would be great if LibreOffice set had its own browser. With respect, I think this is a bad idea :-) Nothing makes a bad application like feature creep. Given there are already fantastic, freely available, open source browsers out there, I can see no reason whatsoever for putting a full browser inside of an office suite. It's not just that it's a duplication of effort; I can't even see any reasons for this. I don't understand the reasons you gave. - Make it easy to embed web pages in LibreOffice documents What do you mean by this? Why would one want to embed a web page inside a document? If one wanted to show something from a website to someone, one should use a screenshot, since the website in question might change at any time. If one is interested in showing some particular data from the web, I believe LO has functions for importing data from online sources. - Make interaction with online web pages easier Again, how is a word processor document meant to interact with a web page? - Provide a useful browser well integrated with other LO applications Again, what does this mean? Why does a spreadsheet or database need to be integrated with a web browser? which could be also well integrated with KDE4, KDE3, Gnome (as Libre Office is currently) As I said above, there are plenty of browsers that run in all these environments. In terms of integration, if any desktop environment community wanted to integrate a browser directly into the desktop, I'm sure they would have done so. I would suggest the reason they haven't is that a browser doesn't belong in the desktop, just like it doesn't belong in an office suite ;-) - It cannot resolve URLs provided as just a site name. I.e. it can open http://www.mysite.org/index.htm (http://www.mysite.org/index.htm) but cannot just http://www.mysite.org (http://www.mysite.org) That's because mysite.org isn't a document - it's an address, which will first be interpreted by a DNS, which will direct your browser to a server, which will interpret your request and /maybe/ serve you a static page, but /maybe/ (and quite probably these days) will create something completely dynamic. I might add that even though a URL ending in .htm implies that you're accessing an .htm document, there's no guarantee of that (if the site you're accessing particularly wanted to confuse people or obfuscate the way it worked). - It displays the web pages in editing mode with service information which is not normally displayed in the viewing mode. If you want to see what it looks like in a browser, why not go look at it in a browser? - There are no navigational buttons and address bar. Well, that's because it's a word processor. Basically, Writer is not Dreamweaver, just the same as Microsoft Word is not Dreamweaver. If you're trying to use Writer to edit websites, I'd strongly suggest you check out KompoZer, Bluefish or Amaya instead, or Google open source web editor or something, I'm sure there are other projects I haven't even heard of. I think you'll have much more success and be much happier using those tools than trying to use a word processor for something it's just not designed to do :-) This hasn't been designed to just criticise your ideas for no reason - if there is a real problem with Writer not doing something it's supposed to do, I'd like to understand what that problem is. And at the same time, if you're really swimming against the current, trying to use a spanner to hammer in nails, I would like to see your needs satisfied in a better way, probably with a different tool. Second, I suggest to make the Basic IDE a stand-alone LO component. It can be currently started with command soffice .uno:BasicIDEAppear and as I know there is a separate icon for Basic IDE. It would be great if a menu entry for this IDE was created by default, the menu of the IDE included all necessary entries for creating a new macro etc on their usual positions (i.e. in file menu) etc. As creating a compiler could be a very difficult task, it still could be used as interpreter for creating separate VB script files and run them from the console much like Python interpreter does. I haven't played with macros in LO much, but This sounds like a much better idea :-) Best regards, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] About some problems
Hello Rezwan, On 30/03/11 12:18, Md. Rezwan Saki Alin. wrote: But, I face to some problem. When I type anything with 'Avro Bangla Keyboard' then 'qutation' and some other items are broken. They are mixed with the words. *Main problem about 'Unicode Bangla Typing' are not support with 'LibreOffice' like 'MS Office 2007'.* Do you have the appropriate language pack installed correctly? What operating system are you using? What exact version of LibreOffice and of the language pack are you using? (you can find this out from the menu About About LibreOffice) I'm unlikely to be able to help you, but perhaps if the problem can be diagnosed with sufficient specificity someone else might be able to do so. Best regards, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Add to Dictionary with Right Single Quote as Apostrophe
Hi ssanders
On 30/03/11 18:10, ssanders wrote:
When I spell-check and add to dictionary, LibO fails to add any word with a
right single quote (’) as the apostrophe.
If I change the right single quote to a straight one ('), LibO will add the
word, plus it will remove the red underlines from any matching words with
right single quotes too.
OOo behaves like this too last I checked.
You're right, this sounds like silly behaviour. There should be some
smarts to realise that certain different characters can mean the same
thing when acting as an apostrophe. I'd imagine the time to check it
would be when the Add to dictionary function is called - if the word
appears to contain a straight quote Or a single right quote, add one
canonical version (maybe the single-quotes one) but let the spellcheck
function accept both ' and ’ as matching.
Have you filed a bug report about this at https://bugs.freedesktop.org?
If not, I think you should :-)
Cheers,
-r
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem selecting objects
Hello Linus, Did you manage to solve your problem after upgrading to 3.2.2? On 28/03/11 11:30, Linus Paulsson wrote: Example: 1. I start a blank text document. 2. I insert a textField (textField A). --- There is no problem selecting and deselecting textField A. 3. I import page style from another document. 4. I apply the imported page style to the (only) page. --- There is still no problem selecting and deselecting textField A. 5. I insert a new textField (textField B). --- There is still no problem selecting and deselecting textField A. --- TextField B on the other hand is not selectable. LibreOffice 3.3.1 OOO330m19 (Build:8) tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.1-1ubuntu3~maverick I tried to reproduce it on LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2 ...on Ubuntu 10.4. I didn't know what you meant by textField. I thought you meant a Frame, since you didn't specify what kind of Field you used, which made me think you weren't talking about Fields (unless you just meant any old Field, I guess, but then your example still wouldn't really make sense). Anyway, I couldn't reproduce the problem with Frames in 3.2.2. Please let us know if you've got sorted out yet. Bests, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with Impress.
On 04/04/11 18:10, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: Ok. I manually imported an image. I then stretched it to take up the full size of the slide. I then sent to back. I saved it and re-opened it and it appears now. However, in my mind, we shouldn't have to do it that way. It's a pain and not very intuitive. We should be able to just change the background on a slide by slide basis. Sure, I agree with you Me too. Just 'cause there's a workaround doesn't mean it's not a bug. Please consider filing a bug report on the LibreOffice bugtracker at http://bugs.freedesktop.org (if you search and find it hasn't been reported yet). Cheers, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] INCLUDETEXT
Hi Joe, On 28/03/11 19:39, Joe Nierenberg wrote: I would like to include text from a closed file into the open file. However, rather than have all of the text there, reproduced in the open file, I want only the field name. (The reason is that it is conditional text, that might not always be included.) According to my searches, there is no LO Writer equivalent to MS Word's INCLUDETEXT field; there is only the menu command to insert a file, which gives the entire text. Ideas? I /might/ have found an answer for this. The answer came from finding out what DDE actually stands for. From the Writer help: DDE DDE stands for Dynamic Data Exchange, which is a predecessor of OLE, Object Linking and Embedding. With DDE, objects are linked through file reference, but not embedded. You can create a DDE link using the following procedure: Select cells from a Calc spreadsheet, copy them into the clipboard and switch to another spreadsheet and select the *Edit - Paste Special* dialogue box. Select *the Link* option to insert the contents as a DDE link. When activating a link, the inserted cell area will be read from its original file. I did this, copying a footnote field from one document and paste-special-ing it into another (Ctrl-Shift-v). While editing, the pasted field seems to contain only the text DDE field but a print preview shows that it contains the proper value. In order to get the fields to update you have to go Tools Update Links rather than Tools Update Fields, so F9 doesn't do it (under the default config). Also, links sometimes appear to become disconnected (right-click Fields...: 'Status' column for link no longer says 'Automatic'). I haven't been able to work out when / why exactly this happens. I haven't tried this with conditional fields. I would be very interested to know if this solves your problem. Cheers, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Debug information
Hi Daniel, On 24/03/11 23:46, Daniel Espinosa wrote: I'll try... Any luck creating a minimal example? I'm afraid I don't have a copy of MS Office to try with. Does the problem occur when editing just any footnote created with Word, or is there something else unusual about the document? Which version of Word? Which version of Windows? Which version of LO? Such info might help other people reproduce your problem :-) Cheers, -r 2011/3/23 Miklos Vajnavmik...@frugalware.org On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 05:51:04PM -0600, Daniel Espinosa eso...@gmail.com wrote: I think that is very important for developers to get backtrace information on crashes of any component of LibreOffice, then why don't distribute debug information DEB or RMP packages in pre-realises in order to help and add this information to a bug report? Have you tried constructing a minimal example that still reproduces the crash but is no longer confidental? That's especially important for regression testing. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] request a feature
Sorry to revive an old thread, but in case any dev-minded people are watching... On 24/03/11 03:47, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Yes, you can do THAT. But ...It switches lower case to upper case, but does not TOGGLE between those two states. You need to assign lowercase (or initial caps for example) to a different shortcut. (I hate MS Word, but at least it gives you the toggle between these attributes - which is the convenience users (like me) are looking for.) I have asked similar questions several times already (that was about highlighting) Apparently, this is either technically not possible - or nobody knows the answer. [...] I cannot understand why this is NOT available for attributes like bold, highlight, upper case etc. Is there any essential difference between one font attribute and another??? (again: I did ask this question many times already) A generalised solution to this would be a ToggleMaker feature / plugin, which would let users assign any two styles to Toggle1, then assign Toggle1 to a shortcut key. Voila, everything toggleable, everybody happy. -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Pie chart in .doc not showing.
Hi Steve, On 04/04/11 22:42, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 2011-04-05 04:12, Ryan Jendoubi wrote: Hi Steve, On 30/03/11 22:14, Steve Edmonds wrote: I have a report in .doc format that has some pie charts (which seem to be from an embedded sheet). These show the labels but no pie in Suse 11.0 X-64, LO3.3.0, 3.3.2, OOO3.2.1. These show ok in OSX 10.6.7, LO3.3.1 Just upgrading the mac to LO3.3.2 the pies no longer show. Something seems to have been fixed in 3.3.1 and then undone in 3.3.2. Did you ever get an explanation for this? The fact that you've narrowed it down could be very useful to developers. Have you looked for relevant bugs on the tracker? http://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi?format=advanced No reply to date. No bug that I could find on the tracker. I could file a bug and can supply the file off list to a developer. steve Please do! And the bug tracker, unlike the mailing list, does allow attachments, so you could upload the offending file there. Just don't hold out for a speedy solution from the developers (-: But a well-researched bug report (like you've done) is all one can do without diving into code... Btw, I've noticed several other people recently asking about issues which have been fixed in previous releases. This is why a thorough test suite is important. Anyway, thanks for helping the project forward :-) Bests, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OpenOffice Spreadsheet LibreOffice Calc
Hello rrand, On 24/03/11 00:27, rrand wrote: There is a difference in the way these two handle linked cells. If you have a cell linked to another spreadsheet in OpenOffice then if you open it in LibreOffice the value is not automatically updated if it changes/or has changed in the spreadsheet it is linked to. LibreOffice seems to only 'remember' the old value even if you relink the cell. This could pose problems when one wishes to no longer use OpenOffice in favour of LibreOffice as you do not know if any linked values are being updated properly. I've not experienced your problem directly, but I know that in Writer the default settings for updating linked Fields are sometimes not intuitive. Maybe there's a preference you can set somewhere about automatic vs manual updating of links? Bests, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Filelist to short, option to show only filename?
Hi Lennart, On 23/03/11 08:51, Lennart Aangeenbrug wrote: The filelist in File recently used files is too short for me. I've several files on a server and i see only the first 40 (?) characters. When i've opened 8 files from the server, i see 8 times the path to the server and some dots. Hoovering will not show me the filename. Is there an option to show only the filename? Or to trim the entry to the filename + first characters (like other programs do)? As far as I know there's no option for configuring the recently used files menu at the moment. But this sounds like a very nice, reasonable, simple enhancement request. I'd encourage you to file it as an enhancement request for LibreOffice at http://bugs.freedesktop.org. Cheers, -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug in calc?
On 28/03/11 18:33, MR ZenWiz wrote: Has anyone else seen this problem or something like it? I can try some more testing along these lines when I get back home later, but I was curious if I'm alone on this one. I'll file a bug if anyone else can confirm this (didn't see one just now yet). Can't reproduce on 32bit Ubuntu 10.4 -- Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug in calc?
On 29/03/11 00:51, MR ZenWiz wrote: Clarification - Maverick 64-bit, LibO from TDF debs. PS: Thanks for the Not seen here responses, but I don't really need to know that. I will assume a lack of response constitutes a negative. :-) Noted - although if people posted enough detail about their systems, we might be able to narrow down the case. Nice 64bit system you have there ;-) Are you able to reproduce it again? -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] build forms: how to
Hi Renato, On 26/03/11 16:39, Renato Pontefice wrote: I would use Form, to made mask to insert data on table. I've many prob. Is there some good guide to use it http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ Download chapter 8, about Base. The stuff about forms starts on page 16. Don't know how good it is, but I hope it helps! Bests, -- Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: Importing multiple pictures, one per slide?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Jeff Praterj...@thoughtreactor.comwrote: I need to make a presentation w/ 300 pictures. This is going to be a relatively simple presentation--one picture per slide. Is there a way to do this in Impress? I can't find an option to do this. I found a macro called Photo Album Creator, but it doesn't work in LibO 3.3. Any ideas? Is this possible because I really don't want to have to import 300 photos one at a time. Thanks! - Jeff Prater On 22/03/11 23:05, Jeff Prater wrote: In case anyone is interested, I opened an enhancement bug to have this feature added. Maybe I'll get lucky! https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35546 - Jeff Prater Sounds like a prime candidate for an extension, I imagine it could come up quite often, esp. for people planning Ignite talks and the like. -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Ignore spacing before and/or after paragraph possible for paragraphs of same style?
On 18/03/11 16:16, Sisyphos wrote: is it possible to set this in writer? I would like to have no space between several headlines, lists or numbered lists without the need to define for each of that cases a new paragraph style. I've had need for this recently too, would be interested to hear how to do it. -r -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Styles and keyboard shortcuts: best practices?
Hi all, Would like your opinion on the following. When I'm make styles for a new template, I always create New styles, usually with a common prefix in the name, to avoid some hypothetical namespace conflict in the future, e.g. when copying or including parts from one document to another. I'm always wondering though whether it wouldn't be better to just modify the Default styles instead of creating new ones? So for example, instead of having an Essay Para style in Essay.ott and Notes Para in Classnotes.ott, just modify Text Body or something in each template to what I want the standard paragraph style to be for that template. The possible utility of this has just occurred to me now I've started fussing around with keyboard shortcuts for styles. Since shortcuts are saved in LibreOffice (or at least in Writer) as opposed to along with Templates or with individual documents, if I set a shortcut for e.g. Essay Para for use with my Essay template, that shortcut key is useless for working in any other template that doesn't have the Essay Para style. All my programming genes tell me to avoid namespace conflicts, inherit and specialise, etc. And there other way of getting around the problem above is to say that keyboard customisations in LibreOffice Writer ought to be saved with the Template somehow, as opposed to being universal. I certainly think there's something to be said for that. What do y'all think? How do you manage and apply your templates and styles effectively? -- Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Has it all except ... #2
Hello Mark, On 15/03/11 08:14, Mark Stanton wrote: [...] I'm trying to shift away from Windoze and VA is one of my few remaining apps there, so moving it to include other platforms would be a big plus from my pov. [...] Point taken about Thunderbird and the need, or not, of having a mail facility integrated into LO. My starting point here was the LO/OO claim to match M$. Clearly neither of them do since there is no mail package included. This is, I suspect one of those points that is a real stumbling block for takeup by businesses since many make extensive use of Outlook. It's not hard (in relative terms) to produce an email app better than Outlook, it's pretty appalling, and in fact it's integration into M$Office is fairly limited as far as I can see. However, LO/OO do not have a related email facility.. I think you would get further if you thought of it not as shifting away from Microsoft to LibreOffice, but from Microsoft to F/LOSS software. I understand what you mean. Although I don't agree that LibreOffice claims to match M$ (which wouldn't even make any sense), it certainly does claim to be an alternative to Microsoft's Office suite. The problem is that MS and the open source world approach things from diametrically opposed starting points. MS, being a huge corporation and justifiably always wanting to sell more and capture new markets, thinks, LET'S DO EVERYTHING!, and as you said yourself, doesn't do a great job at some of the component parts of 'everything'. Meanwhile in F/LOSS land, small communities and passionate individuals think, Let's do One thing, and do it Well, and make it Interoperable with other things. The bottom line is that, given that there are already mature alternative F/LOSS email managers, I would put money on the assertion that LibreOffice will /Never/ include an MS-Outlookalike :-) Quote me on that! But that does create an issue for people in your position, who are used to a simple life, where there is the One True Solution ;-) So perhaps what we /Should/ do is work on our cross-marketing. Use the LibreOffice document creation suite along with the Thunderbird email manager, and vice versa. -- Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Outline Numbering
Hello Mr Sochet, I'm a law student, would also be interested in finding answers to the points you raise. This long email doesn't provide any, but hopefully provides some possible ways of solving the problems. On 11/03/11 00:23, gmanrpi wrote: 1) If I use Roman Numerals for my Article numbers my child outline members are numbered using roman numerals for the show parent numbering even when I select Arabic numerals for my section. EXAMPLE: I want: ARTICLE II ORGANIZATION 2.01 Formation I get: ARTICLE II ORGANIZATION II.1 Formation Is there an existing, easy not bend over backwards way to accomplish the want? I tried this. The only way I could get was defining two separate numbering styles and using the second one for the 2.01 line, and starting that style at numbering level 2, if you understand what I mean. If you apply these numbering styles to two corresponding paragraph styles you can get some degree of automation using 'Next Style', but I agree this requires a lot more work than it should, and since you're using two different numbering / paragraph styles the results could be tricky for TOC's etc. 2) [...] I would like there to be a leading zero. 3) Once Outlining is going, I would like the section number to non-bold, and the section name to be bold. [...] No luck on either of those. I was particularly surprised about number 3). I didn't fully understand your example, but for me while I can apply a character style to make numbering bold when my text is non-bold, I can't do the reverse, i.e. what you want, having the number non-bold when the text is bold. That seems more like a bug than an unimplemented feature. I think one way people in our position could help in addressing these shortcomings would be in making some quite precise specifications or even visual mock-ups of how the options we require would be presented. Very often creating a usable, logical UI for new features is as much a challenge as the behind-the-scenes work. For your point 1), I would imagine we could use presentation of options the same as for 'Structure' on the 'Entries' tab in the 'Insert Index/Table' dialogue. This would be added in to the 'Options' tab on the 'Numbering Style:' dialogue. One could use that 'Structure' formatting to specify the formatting of the numbering for every individual Level of the Style. So in your example, when you first looked at the formatting for Level 2 of your Numbering Style, it would look something like this: - [ I ] [ 1 ] - ... because it's taken the default 'I', meaning Roman-numeral numbering, from the Level 1 format. So for your requirements, you would change it to: - [ 1 ] [ 1 ] - ... where putting a '1' in the boxes indicates that you want regular arabic numerals used. Can you see what I'm imagining here? As regards your problem 2), I guess you could solve it by inventing more new syntax for the same 'Structure' option. The rule could be that if you want leading zeros then before the 'formatting' character (i, I, 1, a, A...) you include the number of leading zeros you want. So for example: - [ 01 ] [ 001 ] - Would be the formatting for the way many law textbooks number their paragraphs, e.g. 02-013. Come to think of it, this could add great flexibility. Currently we can only set a character or string to appear before or after all of the numbering at each Level (which in itself is very flexible and useful). But if we used the 'Structure'-option style of codes in boxes instead, we could do things like: Level 1: - [ I ] [.] - Level 2: - [ 01 ] [-] [ 001 ] - Which would display like so: II. 02-001 Putting the dash between the 'levels' of numbering is something we can't currently do. All the above is probably complex enough to merit being hidden in a 'More options' pane on the Numbering Style Options tab. As I said, no actual solutions here, but I hope as a proposal, for presentation if not implementation, it might at least be enough to get a developer interested. Best regards, -- Ryan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
