Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

[elderdanlewis]

 Original message 
From: Dave Stevens  
Date:03/25/2016  9:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Dan Lewis  
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book 

Quoting Dan Lewis :

> On 03/25/2016 05:22 PM, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
>> Bruce Byfield wrote:
>>> On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:
 On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:
> This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
> but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
> chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!

 An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on  
 tablets than pdf.
>>>
>>> I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting  
>>> highly-formatted material
>>> to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.
>>>
>>> If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.
>>
>> Calibre  is an open source ebook manager  
>> which can import various formats, including ODT, and convert to  
>> various formats, including EPUB. I haven't used it much; about the  
>> most I've done is convert a couple of CHM (Windows help) files to  
>> AZW3 to read on a Kindle, which seemed to work reasonably well. On  
>> the Kindle, images are scaled to fit on the page, but a  
>> press-and-hold allows them to be enlarged to full screen and zoomed  
>> in further to see detail. I don't know how well it does with  
>> complex documents, but may be worth trying.
>>
>  I have used calibre to convert Getting Started with Base from  
> ODT to ePUB format.
>
> Dan

I used calibre just now to convert to epub. You can read it all right,  
but there's a lot of formatting that doesn't make it.

D

>
> -- 

   You are correct. For a good conversion between formats, you need to use the 
editor component of calibre. With this, the styles can be corrected. It takes 
several hours to do this. Using search and replace can make it quicker. Regular 
expressions can be used to make it even quicker. Patience and practice will 
help too.
I have written a document about how to use calibre to do this, but it needs 
to be updated. Is someone needing this? 

Dan



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RE: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr

[elderdanlewis]

Do you have enough memory allocated for LibreOffice? Tools > Options > 
LibreOffice > Memory. 

Dan

 Original message 
From: Patrick Dijkgraaf  
Date:02/13/2016  12:54 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes 
>1hr 

Hi all, hope you are doing well!

Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having.

I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages and
it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations and
custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough it
was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch Linux
and Windows) was OK.

Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux repositories
and now, i run into the following issue:

Symptoms:
* The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, considering the 
size and complexity of the document)
* Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be about 471)
* For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive
* Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core to 100%)
* After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the amount of pages 
is a nice 471 again (which is correct)
* I am then able to edit the document

Technical Info:
* Document size: 27MB
* Document type: ODT
* Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO versions up to 
the latest
* LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3
* OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates)
* System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU and 16GB RAM

Things I've already tried:
* Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue persists
* Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB (as opposed to 
the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the original file
* Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue persists
* Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4)  inside a Windows 10 
(64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur
* Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists
* Reboot my laptop -> issue persists
* Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue
* Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> has the same 
issue

So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or just
this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1.

Is anybody able and willing to help me on this?
Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did
not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon
request, please let me know.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Large spreadsheet does not open in LibreOffice.

[elderdanlewis]

    Search for this: planning/ designing database

   This should be able to help you. Of course, this is only my opinion, but 
then again I wrote it. This is only one of multiple chapters about using Base 
that are available for downloading.

Dan

 Original message 
From: "James E. Lang"  
Date:11/14/2015  1:42 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To:  
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Large spreadsheet does not open in
  LibreOffice. 

-Original Message-
From: Joel Madero 
To: toki 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Large spreadsheet does not open in LibreOffice.



On 11/13/2015 08:23 PM, toki wrote:
> On 13/11/2015 19:27, Joel Madero wrote:
>
>> I have never seen a 150 mb functional spreadsheet before.
> That size is not uncommon in environments where Excel is the only office
> tool that the employees know how to use.

Trust me...I know. I worked somewhere where we had a 750 meg excel file
that crashed multiple times a day and was entirely useless. When I
suggested that someone (meaning I) take the time to do it rightIT
pushed back heavily and was afraid that I'd break something (as if
things weren't already horribly broken).

I recommend to most people who see their spreadsheets creeping into the
10's to 100's of megs to start looking at how to structure databases and
do things right instead of horrible hacks that tend to have lots of
issues - despite many people trying, a spreadsheet is not a database.

[Joel, although I agree that my 7 MB spreadsheet has gotten unwieldy, I have no 
clue how to design and implement a database to replace the mess. I suspect that 
most users who have these oversized, abused, spreadsheets have the same 
problem. Businesses should be able to hire a database designer but as a retired 
individual I don't have financial resources to even get training in database 
design. So I appear to be stuck. I won't go into any of my spreadsheet's 
details here. Suffice it to say I recognize that it has become a kludge.

At 7,145 KB after about 45 weeks accumulation of data I can see the possibility 
that the .ods file could expand past 8MB for the full year. Then it will start 
over and I'll need to figure out how to carry over some values computed from 
this year's data to the new spreadsheet. -- jl]

Best,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Large spreadsheet does not open in LibreOffice.

[elderdanlewis]

Documents for LibreOffice:

http://wiki.documentationfoundation.org/documentation/publications

   The Base Guide section contains my writings. The Base Handbook has been 
translated from the German.

Dan

 Original message 
From: "James E. Lang"  
Date:11/14/2015  1:42 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To:  
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Large spreadsheet does not open in
  LibreOffice. 

-Original Message-
From: Joel Madero 
To: toki 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Large spreadsheet does not open in LibreOffice.



On 11/13/2015 08:23 PM, toki wrote:
> On 13/11/2015 19:27, Joel Madero wrote:
>
>> I have never seen a 150 mb functional spreadsheet before.
> That size is not uncommon in environments where Excel is the only office
> tool that the employees know how to use.

Trust me...I know. I worked somewhere where we had a 750 meg excel file
that crashed multiple times a day and was entirely useless. When I
suggested that someone (meaning I) take the time to do it rightIT
pushed back heavily and was afraid that I'd break something (as if
things weren't already horribly broken).

I recommend to most people who see their spreadsheets creeping into the
10's to 100's of megs to start looking at how to structure databases and
do things right instead of horrible hacks that tend to have lots of
issues - despite many people trying, a spreadsheet is not a database.

[Joel, although I agree that my 7 MB spreadsheet has gotten unwieldy, I have no 
clue how to design and implement a database to replace the mess. I suspect that 
most users who have these oversized, abused, spreadsheets have the same 
problem. Businesses should be able to hire a database designer but as a retired 
individual I don't have financial resources to even get training in database 
design. So I appear to be stuck. I won't go into any of my spreadsheet's 
details here. Suffice it to say I recognize that it has become a kludge.

At 7,145 KB after about 45 weeks accumulation of data I can see the possibility 
that the .ods file could expand past 8MB for the full year. Then it will start 
over and I'll need to figure out how to carry over some values computed from 
this year's data to the new spreadsheet. -- jl]

Best,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thikening the contour of an square crashes Impress

[elderdanlewis]

     One question: what did you do when you tried to thicken the perimeter of 
the square? Please state the specific step(s).

Dan

 Original message 
From: anne-ology  
Date:09/09/2015  3:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Thikening the contour of an square crashes
  Impress 

   Hopefully someone else will respond with an answer for you.

   If no one has within a week or so, maybe there is an LO list *in
your primary language* to which you could receive help,



From: Ralf Kersanach 
Date: Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Thikening the contour of an square crashes
Impress
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Anne-ology,

thanks for your reply.

Well, I really don't know if this is an bug, but i can repeat it
consistently
in impress.

No I'm not streching an existing line, I use the square tool draw the
square,
clean the fill in and them I try to thikening the line and it crashes.

I mean with arquive, when I open an new clean/blank/fresh impress file,
where
the only object I have draw is the square draw which I create the same way I
described above.

Ralf



On Monday 07 September 2015 14:16:51 anne-ology wrote:

>There are a couple possibilities which come to my mind as to the
> problem here;
>
>   assuming there is no bug in any of your set-ups - which could be
> 1 cause.
>
>Another possibility is that you're attempting to stretch an
existing
> line rather than deleting the present one which you no longer desire;
>   if this is the case, then merely delete that which you no longer
> want & replace with that which you want.
>
>Another possibility may be whatever you mean by 'arquive'  ???;
>   do you perchance mean archive?, as in saving the document?
>   if this is the case, then are you saving with a different name?,
> or are you starting fresh with a blank PP?
>You might try starting with a fresh/blank PP
>   then click on add file
>  then make any adjustments to the individual slides you want
> then save the document with a different name;
>Should be as you desire it,
>
>Hoping this helps,
>
>
>
> From: Ralf Kersanach 
> Date: Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 6:40 AM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Thikening the contour of an square crashes
> Impress
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> Hi,
>
> recently I was preparing a lecture and I needed to draw a square around a
> region of an image to get attention on that part of the image. When I try
to
> thicken the perimeter of the square, crashes. I've tried on a new arquive
> without any elements and it crashes as well. Anybody with the same
problem?
>
> I'm a user of Arch linux with kernel 4.1.6-1, Kde 4.14.11 (according to
> kinfo) and my LO version is 5.0.1.2.0+ (buildID: 5.0.1.2 Arch Linux
> build-1),
> Locale pt-BR(interface (en_US.UTF-8).
>
> Ralf

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com

[elderdanlewis]

   Suggestion: you could install ubuntu using a dual boot. Then you could use 
the latest version. I have a MacBook running 10.4 and ubuntu 14.04.  I am also 
using LibreOffice 5.0.1 RC1 on ubuntu.

 Original message 
From: Rob Jasper r...@famjasper.nl 
Date:08/21/2015  7:25 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Pedro pedl...@gmail.com 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 5.0 Review  Rating |
  PCMag.com 

Nice article indeed.

I personally like the structured way of the menus. I am a long time user of 
OpenOffice, and later LibreOffice. 

When MS started with the ribbon, I just didn't use MS office anymore, and on my 
newer systems (Mac's and PCs) I only install LO.

Recently I experienced that I can't update LO beyond version 4.3.6 on the Mac I 
mostly use which is running OSX 10.7.5; The hardware does not allow upgrading 
OSX any further... So, I feel a little 'left in the dark'

I am still a happy user of LO, though!

Rob.

On 21 aug. 2015, at 13:02, Pedro wrote:

 Jack Wallen wrote
 Thought I'd share this. One of my latest open source pieces for 
 TechRepublic about LibreOffice 5.0.
 
 http://www.techrepublic.com/article/libreoffice-5-0-the-strongest-release-to-date/
 
 Nice article. 
 
 I disagree that the UI is the biggest problem... 
 
 If you are a NEW user (i.e. never used an Office suite before) then you need
 to learn it from zero and organized menus are more logical than large
 buttons organized by someone else.
 If you are moving from Office 2003 then you will feel at home. 
 However if you are used to Office 2007 or newer then you are in real
 trouble. Not only you will have to relearn/adjust to the UI but you will
 have BIG problems with round-trip documents regardless if you are using XML
 based MS file formats or Open Documents...
 
 The issue is that not only XML based MS formats are proprietary and
 constantly changing even within MS Office versions (so it is impossible for
 other Offices to open or save EXACTLY like MS) but Microsoft makes sure that
 you will also not want to use Open Document format to exchange files. You
 will ALWAYS get some warning (more or less scary) that you will loose
 something or that you have already lost something...
 
 I really don't see a solution for this problem... Even if Governments
 effectively push for Open Documents, the scary messages will always make
 users think twice before opening or saving to Open Document formats...
 
 Just my 2 cents ;)
 
 
 
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RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com

[elderdanlewis]

     He found LibreOffice lacking somewhat; I find his article lacking as well. 
He said that it will create flat databases which it will.But he failed to 
mention that it also creates relational databases. Nor did he mention that it 
can be used as the front end for other databases.
( Just spouting off a little. )

Dan

 Original message 
From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com 
Date:08/18/2015  2:22 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 5.0 Review  Rating | PCMag.com 

I just came across this article.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2418419,00.asp?mailing_id=1431647mailing=whatsnewnowmailingID=E2768DCC83E0602F9C1DB70A73032992


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles in lists

[elderdanlewis]

   Now I understand what you want. A paragraph style applies the same 
formatting to the whole paragraph. A character style can be used within the 
paragraph, but this must be manually applied to the selected characters.
   What you want to do is not possible unless perhaps a macro is used.
   What you can do is to select a special character as the number at the 
beginning of the element when the level is 2.

Dan

 Original message 
From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com 
Date:08/12/2015  4:15 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: elderdanlewis elderdanle...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles in lists 

Hi.
I am not sure this is what I was after.
If I create a list, initially everything is on level one.
I would like it so that if I demote an item to level 2 the style is 
automatically changed to the style defined for level 2.
When I tried your suggestion I had to manually apply the List 2 style to the 
paragraph.
Steve

On 2015-08-13 01:53, elderdanlewis wrote:
   One thing I forgot to mention: List 2 is found in two different style lists, 
paragraph and lists (list names here begin with either list or number). 
Paragraph styles is the one to which I referred. Click the left icon at the top 
of the styles and formating window to get this list.
   
Dan


 Original message 
From: Steve Edmonds 
Date:08/11/2015 5:54 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: elderdanlewis 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles in lists 

Thanks, what version of LibreOffice do you have. I have 4.3.7.2 and that 
doesn't have a font tab so it must be a newer feature.
Steve

On 2015-08-12 02:46, elderdanlewis wrote:
Yes, you can. Open the Styles and formatting window (second icon 
down on the left border of the LibreOffice window). Right click the List 2 
style and select Modify. Select the Font tab and then select the italic style. 
Click OK.

Dan


 Original message 
From: Steve Edmonds 
Date:08/10/2015 10:41 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org   
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles in lists 

Hi.
I have had a look in the help but can't see if I can achieve my desired 
effect.
Is it possible to assign a paragraph style based on the level in a list.
I.e. Level 1 text is regular, level 2 text is italic.
Thanks, steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Watermarks

[elderdanlewis]

   As I asked Joe, what type of watermark do you want? Do you know how to add a 
graphic to the gallery? ( Assuming your watermark is a graphic)
   You begin with Format  Page. Click the Area tab . Select type of watermark 
from the Fill drop down list. Select the Transparency tab. Set the amount of 
transparency. Close the dialog. 
   The Fill drop down list is likely to be a problem because of the underlying 
choices that are possible.  Custom colors can be created and used. Gradients 
can be created and used. Hash patterns likewise. Graphics can be added to the 
gallery and then used. ( This is done differently from how it use to be done. )

Dan

 Original message 
From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com 
Date:08/09/2015  3:11 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Watermarks 

I have to say I am beaten by this. I had a look at some old doco which 
echoed what Joe said. Any takers?

On 09/08/15 05:31, Joe Conner wrote:
 Using Ubuntu 15.04 64bit
 Using Version: 4.4.5.2
 I am trying to insert a watermark into a writer document.
 The help files says:

 1.

Choose *Format - Page*.

 2.

On the *Background* tab page, select a background color or a
background graphic.

 However, there is NO background tab  on *Format - Page***. What 
 happened? To where
 was it moved?

 Now, how do you create a watermark?

 Thank you. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey

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 Original message 
From: Gary Collins gcatl...@yahoo.co.uk 
Date:07/23/2015  7:45 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Gordon Burgess-Parker gordo...@mail.com,users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey 

 Yes, I remember those (this is getting a bit like The Three Yorkshire 
Men!)
  From: Gordon Burgess-Parker gordo...@mail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2015, 12:37
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Operating Environment Survey
   


On 23/07/15 09:40, Gary Collins wrote:
 We didn't have computers at all at school,
neither did welog tables and slide rule!

Cheap (a few dollars) or expensive ( bamboo, $50 plus)? A few scales or 
many? In high school, I had a cheap one; in service, I used a circular slide 
rule.
There was also a Chemistry and Physics Handbook published every few years 
with many tables in it including Integral equations. All the tables used in 
math was also published separately. One table contained multiples of pi to 20 
decimal places. (Very useful for high school trig classes! )

Dan




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Error message

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Likely the problem is that since windows 8 is 64 bit, Mark installed a 64 bit 
JRE. LibreOffice is 32 bit and needs a 32 bit JRE. If this is the case, Mark, 
install the 32 bit JRE for windows. This should solve the problem.

Dan

 Original message 
From: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com 
Date:07/13/2015  12:57 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: MARK ARTMAN markart...@outlook.com 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Error message 

What version of Java do you have installed?

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM, MARK ARTMAN markart...@outlook.com wrote:

 I'm having trouble getting the database app of LibreOffice to run in
 windows 8.1 (64-bit). When I try to launch it, I receive an error message
 that days I don't have Java runtime environment installed. I do have Java
 installed, so I dint understand why I'm receiving this error message. Can
 anyone point me in the right direction? I appreciate any and all assistance
 you can provide. Thank you.

 -Mark
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Impress Drawing Object Styles: Headings and Titles

[elderdanlewis]

I would think that Title should be used for the title of the drawing. Heading 
should be used for any headings needed within the drawing. For example, a 
drawing might have a heading with text under it. 

Dan

 Original message 
From: Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com 
Date:07/01/2015  11:10 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Impress Drawing Object Styles: Headings and Titles 

I am a little confused by the Drawing Object Styles called Heading and
Title. Are they intended for different uses? What would be a good use
case for each of these?

Thanks,

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RE: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - rtf

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From: Eric Beversluis ebe...@researchintegration.org 
Date:05/26/2015  5:47 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - rtf 

I've got a book-length document heavily formatted in LO writer, which 
I've exported to rtf. I'm trying to understand exactly what gets 
included in that new file.

When I open it in WordPad on Windows it shows what I would expect an rtf 
document to look like--a continuous document, no page breaks, and 
minimal formatting.

When I open it in LO on Linux, however, I get a strange output with some 
but not nearly all of the odt formatting that I assumed would be 
stripped out when saving as rtf.

When I try to open it in WordPad in Wine, Wine freezes up. (Don't know 
if Wine is otherwise working properly, since I haven't really used it.)

What I'm concerned about is what will happen when I try to import this 
rtf into Scrivener or use it to generate an epub version. So, again, my 
question is what all is included in that new rtf file and do I need to 
do anything to get a 'cleaner' rtf file.

Why do you want to use a rtf file as the basis for an epub document? Since you 
use Linux, you can download Calibre. This will convert an odt file to an epub 
file. You might need to modify the styles a bit after making the conversion.

Dan

Thanks.

EB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] resume from where I left off?

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 Original message 
From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com 
Date:03/13/2015  10:03 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] resume from where I left off? 

I thought you needed user data under preferences/options too, but I find 
I have no user data and LO opens with the cursor where I last saved it.
Steve
On 2015-03-14 14:12, Dave Stevens wrote:
 I have dozens of book length documents that I open with LO. I am 
 usually obliged to not read them through at one sitting, so I've been 
 exporting them as .pdfs so I can use evince as a reader. That works 
 fine because if I close the document and reopen it, I'm back where I 
 left off - evince keeps track. Is there a way to get this behaviour in 
 LO?

 Dave



   Have you tried using the Navigator tool? With it you can go to a specific 
heading level.The F5 key opens it. Then open the Heading list browsing to the 
heading you want. Also check Help for Bookmark. I seem to remember this is also 
available. 

Dan


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RE: [libreoffice-users] MySQL - LO Base question.

[elderdanlewis]

If you had installed MySQL Workbench before you rebuilt your hard drive, you 
could have exported your database file. Then when you had rebuilt the hard 
drive, you could import the sql file. This is easier than what you are now 
doing.

Dan

 Original message 
From: Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net 
Date:01/23/2015  2:13 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] MySQL - LO Base question. 

Hi All

I have been running a MySQL Database with LO Base as a front-end for 
some time now -
and VERY successfully indeed compared to the built-in engine in LO Base!!
(My OpSys is PClinuxOS 32-bit)

For a variety of reasons I decided to rebuild my system last week. I 
have a back-up of my Database as a CSV file and have completely wiped 
the hard drive and reinstalled the OpSys and all relevant programs and 
copied all my data into /home.

I now need to set-up my Database again but have a question.
(My Database has only one table with about 2500 records and each record 
has 80 fields.)

Which is the correct procedure??

1) Set-up the Database in MySQL and create an empty table to import the 
CSV into. Then link Base to it.
2) Set-up the Database in MySQL then use LO Base to create the table and 
do the import
3) Set-up the Database using LO Base and then import the data.

Thanks for any pointers.

IanW
Pretoria RSA

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: Questions From Potential New User

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 Original message 
From: Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com 
Date:01/17/2015  7:38 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: Questions From Potential New User 

Le 16/01/2015 18:04, Rich Shepard a écrit :

   That copying is what I was hoping to avoid. I'll create the sqlite db,
 then see if I can connect to it via a sqlite-odbc driver. Should be one
 that
 will work.


The copying/execution step should only really be a last resort, if the
combination of driver/Base doesn't pick all of the constraints you have set.

Alex

 Sqlite can be accessed using MYSQL.  I know I have a recipe database that 
uses sqlite. I can access the tables with MySQL. I can see them using MySQL 
Workplace. I can also use Base to see them through MySQL.

Dan


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Audit Trail

[elderdanlewis]

Enter in a cell:  =TODAY (). Then format the column with the dates for the date 
stamp you want. 
Dan

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From: rs400 russell.tay...@gmx.com 
Date:11/17/2014  12:25 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Audit Trail 

I am trying to create a record of each of the entries I make when researching
my thesis.
Is it possible to get either Calc or Base to automatically insert a date and
time for each entry.
I can paste the URL of the website visited 
and a hyperlink to the location of a stored screen shot.

Any help would be appreciated



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Problem with MySQL tables

[elderdanlewis]

     You might need to close Base and then open it again. 

Dan

 Original message 
From: Heinrich Stöllinger hc.stoellin...@aon.at 
Date:09/06/2014  1:03 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problem with MySQL tables 

Hello,

After changing the structure of a MySQL-table (deleting ONE column and 
inserting another
column) I cannot access the table anymore through LO-Base. LO-Base still 
keeps looking
for the old column.

Since everything works just fine when using the mysql-client 
(Linux.Mint) through the
command-line, I assume that the problem might have to do with some kind 
of cache that
persists across LO-restart and/or system boot. If this is so - can 
anybody tell me where
such a cache might be stored under LO 4.2.5 or LO 4.3.1?

On the other hand, this only happens when using the JDBC-Connector. 
However, I HAVE to use
this connector since the wait_timeout global value specification on 
the server is too
low for decent work in my case and I cannot increase this value. The 
native
MySQL-connector works fine, except that it doesn't have the possibility 
to specify an
auto-reconnect parameter in the connection, so, again I cannot use it. 
In MY case one
solution would be to have such a parameter also in the native connector 
case...

Thanks a lot for any ideas
Heinrich

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Re: [libreoffice-users] question

[elderdanlewis]

Perhaps this is a phish email wanting a reply for evil purposes!



 Original message 
From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org 
Date:08/05/2014  11:44 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com,users@global.libreoffice.org,thommat...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] question 

Hello there,

On 5 août 2014 17:38:29 CEST, Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
On 08/05/2014 02:51 AM, Tomáš Matýs wrote:
 Hi,
 I am just curious when you update your google+ account, because last
 massege is there from january. Maybe there is some problem with the
 connection.

 with the best regards,
  Tomáš Matýs


Who's google+ account?
LibreOffice's or someone else's?


Several people including me man the page and most of all, the G+ community. 
What page are you looking at?

Best,

Charles.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

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I did not write my comments as theory. I did it from personal experience! 
Relational databases have to have tables that have been normalized period! 
Without doing this, any data obtained from a query or report can NOT be trusted 
for accuracy.

Besides the OP was the one mentioning a 3 GB database by the end of the year. 
Anything that large requires large amounts of planning. Would you want to drive 
a car knowing that it had not been carefully planned before being built? 
Working with a 3 GB database without careful plans doesn't any more sense than 
this.

Dan

 Original message 
From: Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com 
Date:07/16/2014  7:48 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table 

Hi :)
There is a big difference between theory and practice.  That doesn't mean
either is wrong.  Finding a good balance between them is probably the best
aim. 

There has to be a balance that gets something that is good enough to work
with but with enough good planning and good sense to make the database
flexible enough for future developments.

Avoiding repetition of data is a good aim but can easily be taken tooo
far.

It's when individual fields are taken out of the main table to be used as
separate tables that it can get a tad confusing imo.  It helps minimise
typos and that makes entries that should be identical really be identical.
Sometimes that is crucial.  Mostly it doesn't really matter too much.  If
some fields can be grouped together that can sometimes be easier to
understand as a separate table.

Also it is possible that some fields might have something like only 1%  of
it's data being repeated.

However a lot of this all becomes clearer when making a prototype and
seeing what real-world data starts filling the tables.

All plans fail in the face of the enemy but that doesn't mean it's ok to
not plan.  Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 16 July 2014 02:50, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote:

 Just a few thoughts...

 On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 19:30:47 -0400
 elderdanlewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you are going to create a database, you plan it THOROUGHLY!
 A nice theory, but in my experience working in the field this is almost
 never completely possible. Often one will get a fairly detailed spec to
 start with, sure, and that you will plan thoroughly, but you just know
 that it will change at least a little (probably significantly) during
 the development lifecycle, and almost certainly have some additions
 afterwards, if not outright changes.


  Beginning with a small simple database and expanding it to a very
  large one is only asking for a complete disaster!
 Well, that depends, in my opinion. Starting with a simple database when
 you aren't sure of the requirements, and redoing it (maybe more
 than once) when you have a better idea of what you need sounds like a
 great way to go. Just don't expect to simply expand the simple
 database, you probably want to replan it and re-create it. You may be
 able to port the data across, if the changes aren't too big. If the
 changes end up being really rather small, you can just alter a few
 tables, maybe add one or two, but that gets messy quickly.


  Unless you are using a flat database, your tables need to be in at
  least fourth normal form.
 Well, I dunno, it's been so long since I bothered with normal forms
 (only at college, really, hardly ever in the workplace), that I can't
 rightly remember what the standard was. Sometimes one normalised,
 sometimes one had to denormalise, but I can't even remember when that
 was. Mostly, in the workplace, we just used what made sense. What made
 sense was really a feeling one got from experience, not from any set of
 rules one learnt during college, although they probably just became so
 ingrained one didn't think of them anymore. And the at least reminds
 me that we were taught that you didn't want data that was *too*
 normalised, as that lead to its own set of problems (not that I can
 remember what those were...).


  Repeatedly adding additional fields can cause the table containing
  these fields to loose its normal form. Then there is no way to know
  if your quieries and reports contain acurate information or not. The
  purpose of a relational darabase is to enter data without any
  repetition of it.
 Not actually so serious, in practice, at least not on a small scale. In
 theory a bad thing, and I guess the idea when one got the chance to
 design from scratch was to avoid that, but after a while things always
 seemed to hang together by prayers and bubblegum. Some of the old
 projects I worked on...

 The clients either didn't want to pay for a rewrite, and made do even
 when they couldn't actually get quite the data they wanted, only
 something close, or they actually found that despite everything it
 worked well enough for them in practice