Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-23 Thread Stefan Knorr
Hi Johnny,

On 22 June 2013 18:58, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache
 OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache
 OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice
 all the time, right?

No:
  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice

But, I'd guess this version is not approved by Apache itself.

Astron.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download

2013-06-23 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello,

Le Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:58:47 +0200,
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com a écrit :

 2013/6/22 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com:
 
  I downloaded Apache's Open Office for Android from Google Play.
 
  I have a Nook HD+, with a 9 inch display, i.e. 7.5 inches wide
  display, with 16 gig internal.
 
  After the initial load/splash screen, I waited for over 4 minutes
  and I still could not get the keyboard or any other controls to
  work.  So I tried to use the back button to exit the app but it
  would not work.  I had to use the Nook Button to go to my Home
  screen to get out of that frozen AOO screen.
 
  AOO-Android used the full top menu bars that you would see in a
  normal install of AOO or LO on Windows or Linux. Those menu bars on
  the top of the screen was so small, even my tablet pen could not
  touch only the needed option.  It touched the options all around it
  as well.  Now, I have a 9 inch tablet. It would even be worse on a
  7 inch tablet.
 
  So, here is my opinion about what LOfor Android should be like.
 
  1]  Forget trying to have the full width top menu bars visible at
  the same time.  Maybe have it be on some type of left/right scroll.
 
  2]  Make the menus large enough to easily see and use on a 7 inch
  tablet. AOO's was too small for even a 9 inch one.
 
  3] Try and make it open, to the point you can start typing, in less
  than 2 minutes, if possible.  If not, warn the user it may take x
  number of minutes to load up completely.
 
  4] Do not try to make LO-Android do too much. People need a basic
  office package to do some quick things. It should not be
  areplacement for a desktop or laptop system.
 
  5] Make sure there is enough room between the top menu bar[s] and
  the tablet's default keyboard, without making the menus and control
  icons too small to use properly and easily.
 
  6] Make it able to run on a tablet that has a smallRAM and slower
  CPUs, compared to the top of the line tablets.  Not all tablets
  have dual core CPUs with 2+ gig of RAM and 4+ gig internal
  storage.  My old one does not even come close.
 
  I do not know what people really need to do on a tablet, for their
  office package needs. What type of features and options are really
  needed, or wanted. Sure, you will need to be able to display the
  ODF and OOXML [07-13] documents. But what editing options will you
  need?
 
  I just bought my first tablet that used Google Play. My last one
  was a 7 inch that used Amazon and other app stores, but it was a
  low end one.  This new Nook HD+ was 44% off for the week of 9th
  through the 15th, Father's Day Salepricing was the only way I could
  afford to get one of these better tablets.  I am still learning
  what this better tablet can do and what apps I might want or need.
  Right now, I do not want a packagelike AOO for Android.
 
  So, I do not know how far the team is on the LO for Android app, but
  hopefully they will not make the same mistakes as Apache did with
  their version.
 
 This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache
 OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache
 OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice
 all the time, right?


Well it's neither one of them :-) There's an app that claims to port
software to Android, and in this case they use Apache OpenOffice. But
it's nothing offiial from Apache as I understand it.

As for LibreOffice on Android Tim made some good points, so here are
some pointers as to where the Android port is heading to. As you can
see it is quite different from what Tim described:

http://www.muktware.com/5553/install-libreoffice-android
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_on_Android


Hope this clarifies the question.

best,
Charles.


 
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 


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