Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary
Hi :) On the types of machines you sometimes use a performance hit would be very noticeable. So, if there is no hit then the longer lists make a lot of sense. The 102k difference is surely not a huge worry to anyone these days? I had assumed that with a list twice as long the spell check might take about twice as long too. It's good to hear i was so wrong :) Many thanks for your hard work at all of this. I'm sure a lot of people appreiate the results :) Thanks and regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 8/11/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 8 November, 2011, 13:43 I have not seen any performance hits with my use of either the 98K or the 217K word list dictionaries. The actual time would difference would be really small. I have not tried using a 390K or 638K word lists though. For a real large document that I used for testing sometimes, you should not see any difference for spell checker lookup. I do not know what type of searches are used in LO to search the word lists for the word lookup, but for the old 80286 systems that I use to do this type of programming with these 50K vs 638K list searches would take about a 1/10 of a second difference for the same 100,000 word document. This was what I generally got for my word list searches back in the 80's with the programming samples I wrote. The professor wanted a timer included in the search software so he could see how efficient your code was. College is where I got interested in dictionary and word list searches and functions for spell checking. To re-learn C++ after my second stroke, I write a program to create word lists from e-book text and compare them with the current lists to see what new words I could find. The fact the the original .dic files had control codes after each word requires the system to do the work to do the conversions and then use those options in its searching. So having lists that do not need those control codes may make spelling searched faster. On 11/08/2011 03:13 AM, Mark Stanton wrote: I'm always interested in the most comprehensive. Presumably there's a performance hit related to the size of dictionary? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary
Well, I am now waiting on the approval of the set of dictionaries on the LO Extension Center. I made on listing with 11 externally hosted files to choose from. word list sizes American English98,000+217,000+390,000+638,000+ British English 98,000+217,000+390,000+638,000+ Canadian English 217,000+390,000+638,000+ Hopefully there will be an approval soon. Now I can go and start working on some other things on my to-do list, like rebuild an old IBM Server, repair a Compaq Presario, find a inexpensive desktop and monitor for a friend 4 floor below me, etc., etc.. Plus I have several books to read, or finish reading, in the next few weeks [1000+/- pages each]. Just this morning, I added taking photos for a collage to the list of things needed to be done this month. Who said retired life was going to be a life of rest and relaxation? Not me. . On 11/10/2011 08:50 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) On the types of machines you sometimes use a performance hit would be very noticeable. So, if there is no hit then the longer lists make a lot of sense. The 102k difference is surely not a huge worry to anyone these days? I had assumed that with a list twice as long the spell check might take about twice as long too. It's good to hear i was so wrong :) Many thanks for your hard work at all of this. I'm sure a lot of people appreiate the results :) Thanks and regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 8/11/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 8 November, 2011, 13:43 I have not seen any performance hits with my use of either the 98K or the 217K word list dictionaries. The actual time would difference would be really small. I have not tried using a 390K or 638K word lists though. For a real large document that I used for testing sometimes, you should not see any difference for spell checker lookup. I do not know what type of searches are used in LO to search the word lists for the word lookup, but for the old 80286 systems that I use to do this type of programming with these 50K vs 638K list searches would take about a 1/10 of a second difference for the same 100,000 word document. This was what I generally got for my word list searches back in the 80's with the programming samples I wrote. The professor wanted a timer included in the search software so he could see how efficient your code was. College is where I got interested in dictionary and word list searches and functions for spell checking. To re-learn C++ after my second stroke, I write a program to create word lists from e-book text and compare them with the current lists to see what new words I could find. The fact the the original .dic files had control codes after each word requires the system to do the work to do the conversions and then use those options in its searching. So having lists that do not need those control codes may make spelling searched faster. On 11/08/2011 03:13 AM, Mark Stanton wrote: I'm always interested in the most comprehensive. Presumably there's a performance hit related to the size of dictionary? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary
Well Mark I placed the largest word list version for British and American English online per your request. I will work on the Canadian version later today. I need a break and do other things. It is 9am here where I live and I have to gotten anything done except my emails and these two files. Time for the other stuff. I have a read more chapters of a 1000 page paperback. Deal with my cat. Deal with finding the lowest costing desktop for a friend to buy. Plus a lot more. Sometimes I feel like I am working more after retiring for work due to the injuries and the strokes, than before. My doctors tell me to slow down. SO just for you, I skipped the rest of my work and gave you what you asked for. I have a 638,200+ word list for British English [en_GB] and 638,600+ one for American English [en_US]. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-british-english-dictionary-638k-word-list.oxt http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-american-english-dictionary-638k-word-list.oxt On 11/08/2011 01:04 PM, Mark Stanton wrote: I'd be happy to have the largest list you can comfortably make. Will it be easy to switch between them if I need or want to? Best regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary
I have not seen any performance hits with my use of either the 98K or the 217K word list dictionaries. The actual time would difference would be really small. I have not tried using a 390K or 638K word lists though. For a real large document that I used for testing sometimes, you should not see any difference for spell checker lookup. I do not know what type of searches are used in LO to search the word lists for the word lookup, but for the old 80286 systems that I use to do this type of programming with these 50K vs 638K list searches would take about a 1/10 of a second difference for the same 100,000 word document. This was what I generally got for my word list searches back in the 80's with the programming samples I wrote. The professor wanted a timer included in the search software so he could see how efficient your code was. College is where I got interested in dictionary and word list searches and functions for spell checking. To re-learn C++ after my second stroke, I write a program to create word lists from e-book text and compare them with the current lists to see what new words I could find. The fact the the original .dic files had control codes after each word requires the system to do the work to do the conversions and then use those options in its searching. So having lists that do not need those control codes may make spelling searched faster. On 11/08/2011 03:13 AM, Mark Stanton wrote: I'm always interested in the most comprehensive. Presumably there's a performance hit related to the size of dictionary? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary
I'd be happy to have the largest list you can comfortably make. Will it be easy to switch between them if I need or want to? Best regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary
I am setting them up so you can install all of them, and then disable the ones you are not going to use at that time. I would have only one enabled at a time though. Install all of them through the Extension Manager, and then click the disable button, instead of uninstall. That will leave the dictionaries in place, but ready to be used when enabled again. So it should be easy for you to switch between them. Right now, you can go to my page http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html and download the disctionaries you want. They are [will be] about 5 to 6 MB each for the different list sizes. All them have spell checking, hyphen, and thesaurus. The British ones now have a thesaurus that contains both US and British words in its thesaurus lists. It was to be used for American, British, and Canadian dictionaries. Later, I might look into the full structure of the file and see about adding some new words to the thesaurus, based upon other system I have in different formats. For British English, I currently have the 98K and 217K version shown. I have 390K and 638K lists I am working on dealing with. These will be listed on my dictionary page in the next few weeks. Send me a private email and I will try to remember to send you a note when I have the larger ones ready. note: I am adding an image to this email so the copy directly to you will have it, but it will not show up on the list's copy. This shows the 270K and 98K American versions installed, and before one was disabled. On 11/08/2011 01:04 PM, Mark Stanton wrote: I'd be happy to have the largest list you can comfortably make. Will it be easy to switch between them if I need or want to? Best regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
