Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
Hi :) My boss still uses the term Office meaning MSO and i just give him a baffled look and pause and then say do you mean the Microsoft one?. When i say Office i mean LO so i have started saying MSO. So, i think i am going to keep on using AOO but also mention Apache later in the same paragraph and just spell it out when i mean the other one. Regards from Tom :) From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: 'Kracked_P_P---webmaster' webmas...@krackedpress.com; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2013, 4:28 Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download AndrOpenOffice (AOO) is not an Apache OpenOffice project. If it were it would be on the Apache OpenOffice SVN, the bugzilla, there'd be release votes, etc. There is no indication that AndrOpenOffice is even open source, although there is apparently significant (non-GPL) open source content. You'll also notice that it does not appear to use any of the Apache OpenOffice trademarks or logos, at least not on the Google Play site. Nothing wrong with it being a port. It just isn't being conducted by the Apache OpenOffice project. There are disclaimers about full features of ... deeper in the material. I guess we don't get to use AOO as a handy abbreviation for Apache OpenOffice any longer [;). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 02:51 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download On 06/22/2013 04:35 PM, James Knott wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? I can't find either. LibreOffice's port for Android is still in ALPHA, early alpha so I have been told. To find the AOO port. . . . go to Google Play search for OpenOffice --- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=search_result# Description AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android. You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of Apache OpenOffice. (NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.) AndrOpen Office has 4 components: - Writer (a word processor) - Calc (spreadsheet) - Impress (presentation graphics) - Draw (drawing) -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
About capabilities: I don't fully agree I'd like to do everything on a tablet like I would on a laptop, but as the capabilities and possibilities from the hardware keeps improving, I'd indeed go for the full version. But perhaps there should be a possibility to use it in r/o, light or full mode? I'd choose light, where I can make some annotations to an existing text, but where I don't have a need to create a pivottable. Just my €0.02 ;) Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards, DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com TVH GROUP NV Brabantstraat 15 • BE-8790 WAREGEM T +32 56 43 42 11 • F +32 56 43 44 88 • www.tvh.com On 23 June 2013 13:36, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Maybe that port of Apache's AOO package should state very clearly that it is not an official port from Apache, but a third party port. Also using the standard abbreviation of AOO can be an issue. Maybe AnOO would work. Still, the issues I had with the package has stopped me from using it. As I stated originally, after 5 minutes, or so, I still was not able to do any typing, or anything else on the tablet. How long does a person need to wait after the loading splash screen to get to use the app? I have a NOOK HD+ 1.5 GHz OMAP4470 dual core processor 16 GB internal storage [1/5 used] 32 GB microSD card. [I do not know what the actual RAM number is.] So this tablet is not a low end one, according to the device specs. Taking 5 minutes, or more, to load is a real big issue for me. On 06/22/2013 11:28 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: AndrOpenOffice (AOO) is not an Apache OpenOffice project. If it were it would be on the Apache OpenOffice SVN, the bugzilla, there'd be release votes, etc. There is no indication that AndrOpenOffice is even open source, although there is apparently significant (non-GPL) open source content. You'll also notice that it does not appear to use any of the Apache OpenOffice trademarks or logos, at least not on the Google Play site. Nothing wrong with it being a port. It just isn't being conducted by the Apache OpenOffice project. There are disclaimers about full features of ... deeper in the material. I guess we don't get to use AOO as a handy abbreviation for Apache OpenOffice any longer [;). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 02:51 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download On 06/22/2013 04:35 PM, James Knott wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? I can't find either. LibreOffice's port for Android is still in ALPHA, early alpha so I have been told. To find the AOO port. . . . go to Google Play search for OpenOffice --- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=search_result# Description AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android. You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of Apache OpenOffice. (NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.) AndrOpen Office has 4 components: - Writer (a word processor) - Calc (spreadsheet) - Impress (presentation graphics) - Draw (drawing) -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- DISCLAIMER http://www.tvh.com/newen2/emaildisclaimer/default.html This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
On Jun 22, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: (Apache: I am not subscribed to your mailing list; one discussion on LibreOffice mailing list turned out to point possible violation of your trademark and I think you should know) Hello Mirosław, Thanks for letting us know about this.You are correct in saying that this is not an official release from Apache. In fact this is the first time I've heard of this app. We'll check with the publishers of the app and try to clear this up. Hopefully it just a simple misunderstanding. Regards, Rob On 22/06/2013 at 23:51, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: To find the AOO port. . . . go to Google Play search for OpenOffice --- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=se arch_result# Description AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android. You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of Apache OpenOffice. (NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.) AndrOpen Office has 4 components: - Writer (a word processor) - Calc (spreadsheet) - Impress (presentation graphics) - Draw (drawing) -- This is scam. They don't have a right to make such claims and are in no way associated with Apache. I have been following Apache OpenOffice ecosystem quite closely for some time and I assure you, that they would make it clear if they had Android port. The only official thing you can find about this is this blog post from beginning from year: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered It actually states something contrary. Let's quote: #v+ 9b. Can I load OpenOffice onto my Google Android tablet? (Combining two related questions) Apache OpenOffice is available from the project for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Community members additionally have ported OpenOffice to BSD, Solaris and OS/2, and make these ports available on their own websites. There is no port of OpenOffice for tablets. However, there are some 3rd party solutions that allow remote access to an OpenOffice session, for example rollApp. #v- Their e-mail is andropenoff...@gmail.com. It should ring a bell: why they didn't set up e-mail address in apache.org domain? And one more thing: developer is andropenoffice. com (I put a space here, as I strongly discourage to go into their website unless you are running virtual machine and can catch any bad things that might be there). That website was created in February this year and contains little content besides advertisements. It is credited by GMO Internet, which I never heard about. Whereas Apache OpenOffice source code is distributed under permissive license, Apache OpenOffice (and OpenOffice.org, for that matter) is registered trademark. It is protected by international law and can't be used to name other products. I am CC-ing Apache OpenOffice dev list. Hopefully it don't require subscription and someone there will take care of this issue. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
Hi Johnny, On 22 June 2013 18:58, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? No: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice But, I'd guess this version is not approved by Apache itself. Astron. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
Hello, Le Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:58:47 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com a écrit : 2013/6/22 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com: I downloaded Apache's Open Office for Android from Google Play. I have a Nook HD+, with a 9 inch display, i.e. 7.5 inches wide display, with 16 gig internal. After the initial load/splash screen, I waited for over 4 minutes and I still could not get the keyboard or any other controls to work. So I tried to use the back button to exit the app but it would not work. I had to use the Nook Button to go to my Home screen to get out of that frozen AOO screen. AOO-Android used the full top menu bars that you would see in a normal install of AOO or LO on Windows or Linux. Those menu bars on the top of the screen was so small, even my tablet pen could not touch only the needed option. It touched the options all around it as well. Now, I have a 9 inch tablet. It would even be worse on a 7 inch tablet. So, here is my opinion about what LOfor Android should be like. 1] Forget trying to have the full width top menu bars visible at the same time. Maybe have it be on some type of left/right scroll. 2] Make the menus large enough to easily see and use on a 7 inch tablet. AOO's was too small for even a 9 inch one. 3] Try and make it open, to the point you can start typing, in less than 2 minutes, if possible. If not, warn the user it may take x number of minutes to load up completely. 4] Do not try to make LO-Android do too much. People need a basic office package to do some quick things. It should not be areplacement for a desktop or laptop system. 5] Make sure there is enough room between the top menu bar[s] and the tablet's default keyboard, without making the menus and control icons too small to use properly and easily. 6] Make it able to run on a tablet that has a smallRAM and slower CPUs, compared to the top of the line tablets. Not all tablets have dual core CPUs with 2+ gig of RAM and 4+ gig internal storage. My old one does not even come close. I do not know what people really need to do on a tablet, for their office package needs. What type of features and options are really needed, or wanted. Sure, you will need to be able to display the ODF and OOXML [07-13] documents. But what editing options will you need? I just bought my first tablet that used Google Play. My last one was a 7 inch that used Amazon and other app stores, but it was a low end one. This new Nook HD+ was 44% off for the week of 9th through the 15th, Father's Day Salepricing was the only way I could afford to get one of these better tablets. I am still learning what this better tablet can do and what apps I might want or need. Right now, I do not want a packagelike AOO for Android. So, I do not know how far the team is on the LO for Android app, but hopefully they will not make the same mistakes as Apache did with their version. This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? Well it's neither one of them :-) There's an app that claims to port software to Android, and in this case they use Apache OpenOffice. But it's nothing offiial from Apache as I understand it. As for LibreOffice on Android Tim made some good points, so here are some pointers as to where the Android port is heading to. As you can see it is quite different from what Tim described: http://www.muktware.com/5553/install-libreoffice-android https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_on_Android Hope this clarifies the question. best, Charles. Johnny Rosenberg -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
Maybe that port of Apache's AOO package should state very clearly that it is not an official port from Apache, but a third party port. Also using the standard abbreviation of AOO can be an issue. Maybe AnOO would work. Still, the issues I had with the package has stopped me from using it. As I stated originally, after 5 minutes, or so, I still was not able to do any typing, or anything else on the tablet. How long does a person need to wait after the loading splash screen to get to use the app? I have a NOOK HD+ 1.5 GHz OMAP4470 dual core processor 16 GB internal storage [1/5 used] 32 GB microSD card. [I do not know what the actual RAM number is.] So this tablet is not a low end one, according to the device specs. Taking 5 minutes, or more, to load is a real big issue for me. On 06/22/2013 11:28 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: AndrOpenOffice (AOO) is not an Apache OpenOffice project. If it were it would be on the Apache OpenOffice SVN, the bugzilla, there'd be release votes, etc. There is no indication that AndrOpenOffice is even open source, although there is apparently significant (non-GPL) open source content. You'll also notice that it does not appear to use any of the Apache OpenOffice trademarks or logos, at least not on the Google Play site. Nothing wrong with it being a port. It just isn't being conducted by the Apache OpenOffice project. There are disclaimers about full features of ... deeper in the material. I guess we don't get to use AOO as a handy abbreviation for Apache OpenOffice any longer [;). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 02:51 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download On 06/22/2013 04:35 PM, James Knott wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? I can't find either. LibreOffice's port for Android is still in ALPHA, early alpha so I have been told. To find the AOO port. . . . go to Google Play search for OpenOffice --- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=search_result# Description AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android. You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of Apache OpenOffice. (NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.) AndrOpen Office has 4 components: - Writer (a word processor) - Calc (spreadsheet) - Impress (presentation graphics) - Draw (drawing) -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
I downloaded Apache's Open Office for Android from Google Play. I have a Nook HD+, with a 9 inch display, i.e. 7.5 inches wide display, with 16 gig internal. After the initial load/splash screen, I waited for over 4 minutes and I still could not get the keyboard or any other controls to work. So I tried to use the back button to exit the app but it would not work. I had to use the Nook Button to go to my Home screen to get out of that frozen AOO screen. AOO-Android used the full top menu bars that you would see in a normal install of AOO or LO on Windows or Linux. Those menu bars on the top of the screen was so small, even my tablet pen could not touch only the needed option. It touched the options all around it as well. Now, I have a 9 inch tablet. It would even be worse on a 7 inch tablet. So, here is my opinion about what LOfor Android should be like. 1] Forget trying to have the full width top menu bars visible at the same time. Maybe have it be on some type of left/right scroll. 2] Make the menus large enough to easily see and use on a 7 inch tablet. AOO's was too small for even a 9 inch one. 3] Try and make it open, to the point you can start typing, in less than 2 minutes, if possible. If not, warn the user it may take x number of minutes to load up completely. 4] Do not try to make LO-Android do too much. People need a basic office package to do some quick things. It should not be areplacement for a desktop or laptop system. 5] Make sure there is enough room between the top menu bar[s] and the tablet's default keyboard, without making the menus and control icons too small to use properly and easily. 6] Make it able to run on a tablet that has a smallRAM and slower CPUs, compared to the top of the line tablets. Not all tablets have dual core CPUs with 2+ gig of RAM and 4+ gig internal storage. My old one does not even come close. I do not know what people really need to do on a tablet, for their office package needs. What type of features and options are really needed, or wanted. Sure, you will need to be able to display the ODF and OOXML [07-13] documents. But what editing options will you need? I just bought my first tablet that used Google Play. My last one was a 7 inch that used Amazon and other app stores, but it was a low end one. This new Nook HD+ was 44% off for the week of 9th through the 15th, Father's Day Salepricing was the only way I could afford to get one of these better tablets. I am still learning what this better tablet can do and what apps I might want or need. Right now, I do not want a packagelike AOO for Android. So, I do not know how far the team is on the LO for Android app, but hopefully they will not make the same mistakes as Apache did with their version. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
2013/6/22 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com: I downloaded Apache's Open Office for Android from Google Play. I have a Nook HD+, with a 9 inch display, i.e. 7.5 inches wide display, with 16 gig internal. After the initial load/splash screen, I waited for over 4 minutes and I still could not get the keyboard or any other controls to work. So I tried to use the back button to exit the app but it would not work. I had to use the Nook Button to go to my Home screen to get out of that frozen AOO screen. AOO-Android used the full top menu bars that you would see in a normal install of AOO or LO on Windows or Linux. Those menu bars on the top of the screen was so small, even my tablet pen could not touch only the needed option. It touched the options all around it as well. Now, I have a 9 inch tablet. It would even be worse on a 7 inch tablet. So, here is my opinion about what LOfor Android should be like. 1] Forget trying to have the full width top menu bars visible at the same time. Maybe have it be on some type of left/right scroll. 2] Make the menus large enough to easily see and use on a 7 inch tablet. AOO's was too small for even a 9 inch one. 3] Try and make it open, to the point you can start typing, in less than 2 minutes, if possible. If not, warn the user it may take x number of minutes to load up completely. 4] Do not try to make LO-Android do too much. People need a basic office package to do some quick things. It should not be areplacement for a desktop or laptop system. 5] Make sure there is enough room between the top menu bar[s] and the tablet's default keyboard, without making the menus and control icons too small to use properly and easily. 6] Make it able to run on a tablet that has a smallRAM and slower CPUs, compared to the top of the line tablets. Not all tablets have dual core CPUs with 2+ gig of RAM and 4+ gig internal storage. My old one does not even come close. I do not know what people really need to do on a tablet, for their office package needs. What type of features and options are really needed, or wanted. Sure, you will need to be able to display the ODF and OOXML [07-13] documents. But what editing options will you need? I just bought my first tablet that used Google Play. My last one was a 7 inch that used Amazon and other app stores, but it was a low end one. This new Nook HD+ was 44% off for the week of 9th through the 15th, Father's Day Salepricing was the only way I could afford to get one of these better tablets. I am still learning what this better tablet can do and what apps I might want or need. Right now, I do not want a packagelike AOO for Android. So, I do not know how far the team is on the LO for Android app, but hopefully they will not make the same mistakes as Apache did with their version. This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? Johnny Rosenberg -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
Johnny Rosenberg wrote: This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? I can't find either. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
On 06/22/2013 04:35 PM, James Knott wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? I can't find either. LibreOffice's port for Android is still in ALPHA, early alpha so I have been told. To find the AOO port. . . . go to Google Play search for OpenOffice --- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=search_result# Description AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android. You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of Apache OpenOffice. (NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.) AndrOpen Office has 4 components: - Writer (a word processor) - Calc (spreadsheet) - Impress (presentation graphics) - Draw (drawing) -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
On 06/22/2013 04:58 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: What type of features and options are really needed, or People replaced their desktop with a laptop. Now they are replacing their laptop with a tablet. So whatever you used to do on a desktop, or laptop, will be done on a tablet. But what editing options will you need? The biggest point of failure of EuroOffice, is that it makes no provision for styles. To me, that is a failure on a par with the mean time of 15 seconds from starting MSO, to seeing the Blue Screen of Death. This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, The description matches AndrOffice, which is a port of Apache OpenOffice to Android. jonathon -- LibreOffice in a Multi-Lingual Environment. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
(Apache: I am not subscribed to your mailing list; one discussion on LibreOffice mailing list turned out to point possible violation of your trademark and I think you should know) On 22/06/2013 at 23:51, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: To find the AOO port. . . . go to Google Play search for OpenOffice --- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=se arch_result# Description AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android. You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of Apache OpenOffice. (NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.) AndrOpen Office has 4 components: - Writer (a word processor) - Calc (spreadsheet) - Impress (presentation graphics) - Draw (drawing) -- This is scam. They don't have a right to make such claims and are in no way associated with Apache. I have been following Apache OpenOffice ecosystem quite closely for some time and I assure you, that they would make it clear if they had Android port. The only official thing you can find about this is this blog post from beginning from year: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered It actually states something contrary. Let's quote: #v+ 9b. Can I load OpenOffice onto my Google Android tablet? (Combining two related questions) Apache OpenOffice is available from the project for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Community members additionally have ported OpenOffice to BSD, Solaris and OS/2, and make these ports available on their own websites. There is no port of OpenOffice for tablets. However, there are some 3rd party solutions that allow remote access to an OpenOffice session, for example rollApp. #v- Their e-mail is andropenoff...@gmail.com. It should ring a bell: why they didn't set up e-mail address in apache.org domain? And one more thing: developer is andropenoffice. com (I put a space here, as I strongly discourage to go into their website unless you are running virtual machine and can catch any bad things that might be there). That website was created in February this year and contains little content besides advertisements. It is credited by GMO Internet, which I never heard about. Whereas Apache OpenOffice source code is distributed under permissive license, Apache OpenOffice (and OpenOffice.org, for that matter) is registered trademark. It is protected by international law and can't be used to name other products. I am CC-ing Apache OpenOffice dev list. Hopefully it don't require subscription and someone there will take care of this issue. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download
AndrOpenOffice (AOO) is not an Apache OpenOffice project. If it were it would be on the Apache OpenOffice SVN, the bugzilla, there'd be release votes, etc. There is no indication that AndrOpenOffice is even open source, although there is apparently significant (non-GPL) open source content. You'll also notice that it does not appear to use any of the Apache OpenOffice trademarks or logos, at least not on the Google Play site. Nothing wrong with it being a port. It just isn't being conducted by the Apache OpenOffice project. There are disclaimers about full features of ... deeper in the material. I guess we don't get to use AOO as a handy abbreviation for Apache OpenOffice any longer [;). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 02:51 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] AOO for Android - not worth the download On 06/22/2013 04:35 PM, James Knott wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: This is a little confusing to me. You mention LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice for Android, but as far as I know there is no Apache OpenOffice for Android, so I guess you are talking about LibreOffice all the time, right? I can't find either. LibreOffice's port for Android is still in ALPHA, early alpha so I have been told. To find the AOO port. . . . go to Google Play search for OpenOffice --- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenofficefeature=search_result# Description AndrOpen Office is Apache OpenOffice port for Android. You can view, edit, export office documents using full features of Apache OpenOffice. (NOTE: You can only edit in English in current version.) AndrOpen Office has 4 components: - Writer (a word processor) - Calc (spreadsheet) - Impress (presentation graphics) - Draw (drawing) -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
