Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You might be able to turn off java completely.
Tools - Options - Java

Generally and for most programs it is best to have only the very newest JRE.  
It is always written with security flaws which we don't find out about until 
later.  The company that produces it assures us that their newer one is safer 
or even sometimes say it is safe but then a month or so later tell us that we 
have to upgrade again because that version has horrendous vulnerabilities.  

So, LibreOffice is trying to write-out any need for java and at the moment it 
is only needed for a fwe things such as the database (if you use the default 
back-end that is embedded in Base), a few wizards and some extensions.  

Where it hasn't been written-out it seems their  best version is 6_21 or on 
Windows 6u21 unless you are using the very newest beta-testing pre-release 
version of LibreOffice (the 3.5.x branch) in which case java 7_something should 
be best.  In LibreOffice 3.3.x and 3.4.x any version higher than 6_24 created 
problems for a lot of people and higher numbers even made LO crash in quite a 
few cases.  If you are using higher numbers without hassle then you can 
probably turn off java altogether (in LO)

Just my 2cents from watching this list a lot
Regards from
Tom :)


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 
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Date: Tuesday, 17 January, 2012, 1:39

Maybe this can help you

i use Libreoffice and have installed the next JRE's;

JRE 1.6.u30 x86
JRE 1.6u30 x64
JRE 1.7u2 x86
JRE 1.7u2 x64


libreoffice ofrcourse only uses the x86 versions ... and only the 1.6...
IE 64bit uses the x64 jre
FFox uses the x86 jre since it's 32 bit

all other 64 bit apps use 1.7 x64
all other 32 bit apps use 1.7 x86

it depends on the application which jre is used... it has to be compatible with 
it's bit-code...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-16 Thread Michael Bogaerts

Maybe this can help you

i use Libreoffice and have installed the next JRE's;

JRE 1.6.u30 x86
JRE 1.6u30 x64
JRE 1.7u2 x86
JRE 1.7u2 x64


libreoffice ofrcourse only uses the x86 versions ... and only the 1.6...
IE 64bit uses the x64 jre
FFox uses the x86 jre since it's 32 bit

all other 64 bit apps use 1.7 x64
all other 32 bit apps use 1.7 x86

it depends on the application which jre is used... it has to be 
compatible with it's bit-code...



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This may sound obvious but I am not certain of the answer and wanted to
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When installting LibreOffice for Windows for use on a 64-bit system, is
it best to install the 32-bit or the 64-bit JRE ?

Thanks for any information on this.

Fabian



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[libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-11 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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Hi,

This may sound obvious but I am not certain of the answer and wanted to
double-check here.

When installting LibreOffice for Windows for use on a 64-bit system, is
it best to install the 32-bit or the 64-bit JRE ?

Thanks for any information on this.

Fabian



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-11 Thread MiguelAngel

El 11/01/12 15:17, Fabian Rodriguez escribió:


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Hi,

This may sound obvious but I am not certain of the answer and wanted to
double-check here.

When installting LibreOffice for Windows for use on a 64-bit system, is
it best to install the 32-bit or the 64-bit JRE ?

Thanks for any information on this.

Fabian



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As I know, LibreOffice in Windows it's compiled only for 32-bits.
Only 32-bit JRE works in LibreOffice for windows.

Miguel Ángel.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-11 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-11 11:06 AM, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@member.fsf.org wrote:

Regardless, I'd still like to know what's the recommended JRE to install
in a 64-bit Windows environment.


This has already been answered.

Libreoffice is *only* 32 bit on Windows. You can NOT use a 64 bit JRE 
with a 32bit program. Period. So, you must use the 32bit JRE.



I didn't find a source for your indication that Only 32-bit JRE works
in LibreOffice for windows.


There probably isn't, but it is irrelevant - yes, you can *install* a 
64bit JRE, but Libreoffice can not *use* it.



In fact JRE as a requirement for LibreOffice (Base or else) is not
listed at all under the requirements:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/


It isn't a *requirement*, but it is necessary for certain things to 
operate (correctly, or at all), like for example the wizards.


Just install the 32bit JRE and forget about it...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-11 Thread Don C. Myers



On 01/11/2012 09:49 AM, MiguelAngel wrote:

El 11/01/12 15:17, Fabian Rodriguez escribió:


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Hi,

This may sound obvious but I am not certain of the answer and wanted to
double-check here.

When installting LibreOffice for Windows for use on a 64-bit system, is
it best to install the 32-bit or the 64-bit JRE ?

Thanks for any information on this.

Fabian



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As I know, LibreOffice in Windows it's compiled only for 32-bits.
Only 32-bit JRE works in LibreOffice for windows.

Miguel Ángel.



Hi Fabian,

I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.4 on several Linux machines running Ubuntu 
11.10. Some are 32 bit and some are 64 bit. For LibreOffice I'm using 
both 32 bit and 64 bit Java. On the 32 bit systems for LibreOffice only 
I'm using jre-6u21-linux-i586,  and on the 64 bit systems for 
LibreOffice I'm using jre-6u21-linux-x64. Everything works perfectly. 
I'm not sure you could install the 32 bit Java on a 64 bit machine. I 
never tried.


Don

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-11 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-11 12:57 PM, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.4 on several Linux machines running Ubuntu
11.10. Some are 32 bit and some are 64 bit. For LibreOffice I'm using
both 32 bit and 64 bit Java. On the 32 bit systems for LibreOffice only
I'm using jre-6u21-linux-i586,  and on the 64 bit systems for
LibreOffice I'm using jre-6u21-linux-x64. Everything works perfectly.
I'm not sure you could install the 32 bit Java on a 64 bit machine. I
never tried.


On windows, sure you can, I do it all the time...

But since Linux has 64 bit versions of Libreoffice, you don't *need* to 
install the 32 bit version... but as long as you have a 64 bit multilib 
system (capable of installing/running 32bit apps), then I'm sure you 
could install both versions.


The important thing is to install the *same* version (32 or 64 bit) as 
the version of Libreoffice (32 or 64 bit) that is installed. *They* 
*must* *match*.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-11 Thread Don C. Myers



On 01/11/2012 01:02 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-11 12:57 PM, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.4 on several Linux machines running Ubuntu
11.10. Some are 32 bit and some are 64 bit. For LibreOffice I'm using
both 32 bit and 64 bit Java. On the 32 bit systems for LibreOffice only
I'm using jre-6u21-linux-i586,  and on the 64 bit systems for
LibreOffice I'm using jre-6u21-linux-x64. Everything works perfectly.
I'm not sure you could install the 32 bit Java on a 64 bit machine. I
never tried.


On windows, sure you can, I do it all the time...

But since Linux has 64 bit versions of Libreoffice, you don't *need* 
to install the 32 bit version... but as long as you have a 64 bit 
multilib system (capable of installing/running 32bit apps), then I'm 
sure you could install both versions.


The important thing is to install the *same* version (32 or 64 bit) as 
the version of Libreoffice (32 or 64 bit) that is installed. *They* 
*must* *match*.



Thank you so much for the clarification!!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The _21 is probably the best one for Office so don't uninstall it until you 
have tried out the 1.7 (if you ever get time to do that!).  I think Ubuntu 
10.04 LTS uses _21 (or _22 or _20 which are kinda fine too for LO).  Note that 
there is much less problem running older versions of java in GnuLinux thn 
there might be in Windows although obviously nothing is completely safe, 
especially not java.  Even in Windows LO allows you to use a different version 
of java than the version used by other apps.  Most apps just take the latest 
version but LO allows you to select which one.  It'd be really nice to clear 
ones that you are not using off the machine completely of course.
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 
32 or 64 bit ?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 11 January, 2012, 18:17



On 01/11/2012 01:02 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2012-01-11 12:57 PM, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:
 I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.4 on several Linux machines running Ubuntu
 11.10. Some are 32 bit and some are 64 bit. For LibreOffice I'm using
 both 32 bit and 64 bit Java. On the 32 bit systems for LibreOffice only
 I'm using jre-6u21-linux-i586,  and on the 64 bit systems for
 LibreOffice I'm using jre-6u21-linux-x64. Everything works perfectly.
 I'm not sure you could install the 32 bit Java on a 64 bit machine. I
 never tried.
 
 On windows, sure you can, I do it all the time...
 
 But since Linux has 64 bit versions of Libreoffice, you don't *need* to 
 install the 32 bit version... but as long as you have a 64 bit multilib 
 system (capable of installing/running 32bit apps), then I'm sure you could 
 install both versions.
 
 The important thing is to install the *same* version (32 or 64 bit) as the 
 version of Libreoffice (32 or 64 bit) that is installed. *They* *must* 
 *match*.
 
Thank you so much for the clarification!!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

2012-01-11 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-11 1:28 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Even in Windows LO allows you to use a different version of java than
the version used by other apps.  Most apps just take the latest
version but LO allows you to select which one.  It'd be really nice
to clear ones that you are not using off the machine completely of
course.


The problem is, in windows, if you have a vulnerable version of java, it 
can be exploited by whatever malware wants to exploit it, regardless of 
what you tell other apps to use.


It is simply unwise to keep old/exploitable version of java on any system.

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