Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer

2013-07-30 Thread Thom Brown
On 26 July 2013 03:30, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:

 At 16:49 25/07/2013 +0100, Thom Brown wrote:

 I have a Writer template (OTT) that I wish colleagues to use, but I would
 like the first couple pages to contain instructions on how to use the
 template.  Naturally I wouldn't want these to be printed or exported to a
 PDF.  Is there any way to mark pages as unprintable/non-exportable in a
 template so that I don't have to include an instruction to users to delete
 those 2 pages before exporting?  I don't want to mark just the text as
 non-printable as this will still occupy space, and I also have a header and
 footer that would be produced on those 2 pages anyway.


 I don't know any simple way to do this.  You are basically scuppered, I
 think, by the WYSIWYG principle: anything you don't want printed won't
 display - at least by default - and it's assumed that you will want
 anything that does display to be printed.

 The best I can suggest is to mark the text as hidden (which you can do in
 various ways).  Then you have to tell the users to tick the option at Tools
 | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Formatting Aids | Display of | Hidden
 text, and also to switch on the display of non-printing characters.  The
 option at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Print | Contents |
 Hidden text needs to be unticked, but that should be so by default.

 I don't think headers and footers on the corresponding pages are any
 problem: if the text of the pages is not printed, then there will be no
 pages for the headers and footers to appear on and they will be suppressed
 too.  Page Preview will correctly show the material to be printed - and
 yes: this works equally for exporting to PDF.

 I trust this helps.


Thanks for the suggestion guys, but unfortunately this requires telling
users to go enabling certain features, and I'd rather just have pages that
are immediately apparent in the template, but don't get exported/printed.

I think it's a missing feature I should probably request.
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[libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer

2013-07-25 Thread Thom Brown
Hi all,

I have a Writer template (OTT) that I wish colleagues to use, but I would
like the first couple pages to contain instructions on how to use the
template.  Naturally I wouldn't want these to be printed or exported to a
PDF.  Is there any way to mark pages as unprintable/non-exportable in a
template so that I don't have to include an instruction to users to delete
those 2 pages before exporting?  I don't want to mark just the text as
non-printable as this will still occupy space, and I also have a header and
footer that would be produced on those 2 pages anyway.

Thanks

Thom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer

2013-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I don't know so i'm going to make a guess and see what others say about it.  

Can the 1st 2 pages be a separate section?  Is that the best approach?  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Thom Brown t...@linux.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 16:49
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer
 

Hi all,

I have a Writer template (OTT) that I wish colleagues to use, but I would
like the first couple pages to contain instructions on how to use the
template.  Naturally I wouldn't want these to be printed or exported to a
PDF.  Is there any way to mark pages as unprintable/non-exportable in a
template so that I don't have to include an instruction to users to delete
those 2 pages before exporting?  I don't want to mark just the text as
non-printable as this will still occupy space, and I also have a header and
footer that would be produced on those 2 pages anyway.

Thanks

Thom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating non-printable pages in Writer

2013-07-25 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:49 25/07/2013 +0100, Thom Brown wrote:
I have a Writer template (OTT) that I wish colleagues to use, but I 
would like the first couple pages to contain instructions on how to 
use the template.  Naturally I wouldn't want these to be printed or 
exported to a PDF.  Is there any way to mark pages as 
unprintable/non-exportable in a template so that I don't have to 
include an instruction to users to delete those 2 pages before 
exporting?  I don't want to mark just the text as non-printable as 
this will still occupy space, and I also have a header and footer 
that would be produced on those 2 pages anyway.


I don't know any simple way to do this.  You are basically scuppered, 
I think, by the WYSIWYG principle: anything you don't want printed 
won't display - at least by default - and it's assumed that you will 
want anything that does display to be printed.


The best I can suggest is to mark the text as hidden (which you can 
do in various ways).  Then you have to tell the users to tick the 
option at Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Formatting Aids | 
Display of | Hidden text, and also to switch on the display of 
non-printing characters.  The option at Tools | Options... | 
LibreOffice Writer | Print | Contents | Hidden text needs to be 
unticked, but that should be so by default.


I don't think headers and footers on the corresponding pages are any 
problem: if the text of the pages is not printed, then there will be 
no pages for the headers and footers to appear on and they will be 
suppressed too.  Page Preview will correctly show the material to be 
printed - and yes: this works equally for exporting to PDF.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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