Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Prezi, htmlslidy, smil, html5 sound worth quickly looking up and maybe
exploring.

Good to see some good suggestions buried away in there.  Delivery was
a bit off-putting but it's good to have someone fairly extreme
reminding us that life is worth enjoying rather than going that way
ourselves.  A little less tension and a little more humour and fun!

A full Dvd with other OpenSource projects is prolly more than really
needed on this occasion.  It's tricky to track all the latest versions
of everything.  If you want that sort of thing then look towards the
North American DVD Project or the German one and i suspect a few more
languages have their own versions.

Rhythmbox seems to be quite a popular music player but there are
plenty of options.  Vlc can do the job quite well even though it's not
it's main purpose.
Regards from
Tom :)






On 19 November 2013 10:24, e-letter  wrote:
> On 18/11/2013, Dave Liesse  wrote:
>>
>> 2.  Saved as .pps file.  Copied presentation and audio file directory --
>> pathing kept intact -- to thumb drive.
>>
>> 3.  Open .pps file on another computer that doesn't have LibreOffice
>> installed.  Slide show runs, music does not play.  Confirmed music files
>> are present.
>>
>
> LO is not an m$ clone. Use the native file formats. Create odp format
> presentations and provide LO installation files on the dvd. Similarly,
> provide vlc, mplayer or similar software to play music files which
> should be in oga format.
>
>>
>> This slide show is for distribution to others via DVD, and I'm really
>> getting frustrated with it.  I'd hate to think that the hours I've spent
>> on it have been wasted and that I have to start over with another
>> application.  But I can't assume anything about the software anyone else
>> has, and just about everyone has the ability to view a .pps file
>> regardless of their OS (I can be pretty sure, but not 100% positive,
>> that everyone on my distribution list is using either Windows or Mac
>> machines).  Can anyone see anything I've overlooked?
>>
>
> Alternatives exists, such as htmlslidy and prezi. It the slide show is
> seemingly of multimedia, could also use html5 and smil, delivering the
> presentation via a web browser (depending on smil use, in which case a
> smil player may be required as well).
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show

2013-11-19 Thread e-letter
On 18/11/2013, Dave Liesse  wrote:
>
> 2.  Saved as .pps file.  Copied presentation and audio file directory --
> pathing kept intact -- to thumb drive.
>
> 3.  Open .pps file on another computer that doesn't have LibreOffice
> installed.  Slide show runs, music does not play.  Confirmed music files
> are present.
>

LO is not an m$ clone. Use the native file formats. Create odp format
presentations and provide LO installation files on the dvd. Similarly,
provide vlc, mplayer or similar software to play music files which
should be in oga format.

>
> This slide show is for distribution to others via DVD, and I'm really
> getting frustrated with it.  I'd hate to think that the hours I've spent
> on it have been wasted and that I have to start over with another
> application.  But I can't assume anything about the software anyone else
> has, and just about everyone has the ability to view a .pps file
> regardless of their OS (I can be pretty sure, but not 100% positive,
> that everyone on my distribution list is using either Windows or Mac
> machines).  Can anyone see anything I've overlooked?
>

Alternatives exists, such as htmlslidy and prezi. It the slide show is
seemingly of multimedia, could also use html5 and smil, delivering the
presentation via a web browser (depending on smil use, in which case a
smil player may be required as well).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show

2013-11-18 Thread anne-ology
   Ah, yes, editable format ... I never thought of that problem;
  thanks for responding to him.



From: Tom Davies 
Date: Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show
To: dslie...@liessefamily.net
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 


Hi :)
Does it have to be in an editable format?

If NOT then maybe use Impress to save into some more reliable format
that doesn't change around from one version of MS Office to the next.
Some people have even suggested using .Pdf format but i think that
kinda scuppers the reason for having it as a slide-show.  Perhaps as a
YouTube format?  Perhaps as a Flash Player format?  Other people have
suggested using straight movie formats such as the ageing .avi or
newer .mkv.  For a Flash Player try
File - Export
and scroll down until you see "Macromedia Flash".  With that sort of
idea you might be able to embed the presentation within a web-page and
choose the size of the display.  Then save the web-pages onto the DVD.
 Let the web-browsers do the work!


If it DOES have to be editable then pps is probably the best format
but even so it relies on MS Office being consistent from one machine
to the next and we know that it isn't.  Perhaps find out which
versions of MS Office the pps does work well on and then write that in
the blurb on the DVDs cover.  Such covers often demand that people
upgrade to the latest versions of Windows and MS Office in order to be
able to play the DVD and they make no apology for not working on all
versions.

OTH!  Can you squeeze LibreOffice installers onto the DVD?  One for
Mac and one for Windows would do the trick.  No need to worry about
any for Gnu&Linux!

Note that when PDFs first started being used they would often be
accompanied by a button linking to the Adobe downloads site and hardly
anyone made a fuss about that.  They just installed it or grumbled to
the their IT Department about not being able to open such a basic
format.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 18 November 2013 07:46, Dave Liesse  wrote:

> This is a follow-up to a question I asked in August.  I'm still struggling
> with trying to create something that can be used in other systems.  Here's
> what I've done:
>
> 1.  Created a slide show in Impress.  Slides auto-advance after 5 seconds,
> and transitions are used to play appropriate music files. Previous tests
by
> myself and others on this list have shown that the links to the audio
files
> follow relative rather than absolute paths.
>
> 2.  Saved as .pps file.  Copied presentation and audio file directory --
> pathing kept intact -- to thumb drive.
>
> 3.  Open .pps file on another computer that doesn't have LibreOffice
> installed.  Slide show runs, music does not play.  Confirmed music files
are
> present.
>
> 4.  Rename original audio file directory on my hard drive for testing.
 Run
> slide show from thumb drive on my own computer.  Opens in Impress, of
> course, and does not auto-run.  Music plays properly.
>
> This slide show is for distribution to others via DVD, and I'm really
> getting frustrated with it.  I'd hate to think that the hours I've spent
on
> it have been wasted and that I have to start over with another
application.
> But I can't assume anything about the software anyone else has, and just
> about everyone has the ability to view a .pps file regardless of their OS
(I
> can be pretty sure, but not 100% positive, that everyone on my
distribution
> list is using either Windows or Mac machines).  Can anyone see anything
I've
> overlooked?
>
> Dave
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show

2013-11-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I have been looking around quickly trying to see what other people are
doing or have done.  Found this forum thread from people who have
little or no idea about Office Suites
http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Number=1018700

Also this from Eric (is he the famous one)
http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/

Then this link looks like a commercial product but gives advice which
might be useful
http://www.alivemedia.net/flash-slideshow-maker.htm
"
* Output Flash (.SWF) File and HTML page
Create two files: a Flash (SWF) file and a HTML page file. This allows
you to share the slideshow via uploading the two files to your website
simply..
*  Output Flash (.SWF) File
Create a standalone Flash (SWF) file only. But the corresponding HTML
code will be generated for embedding the flash slideshow into your own
webpage. You will be able to copy and paste the code into any webpage.
"

I seem to have trouble playing some swf files but that is probably
more to do with their source rather than anything to do with the
format.  Some people are really anxious to protect their copyright at
the expense of being widely available.  So maybe there is some way of
locking swfs or maybe i just got corrupted ones.  Neither would
surprise me.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 18 November 2013 14:44, Tom Davies  wrote:
> Hi :)
> Does it have to be in an editable format?
>
> If NOT then maybe use Impress to save into some more reliable format
> that doesn't change around from one version of MS Office to the next.
> Some people have even suggested using .Pdf format but i think that
> kinda scuppers the reason for having it as a slide-show.  Perhaps as a
> YouTube format?  Perhaps as a Flash Player format?  Other people have
> suggested using straight movie formats such as the ageing .avi or
> newer .mkv.  For a Flash Player try
> File - Export
> and scroll down until you see "Macromedia Flash".  With that sort of
> idea you might be able to embed the presentation within a web-page and
> choose the size of the display.  Then save the web-pages onto the DVD.
>  Let the web-browsers do the work!
>
>
> If it DOES have to be editable then pps is probably the best format
> but even so it relies on MS Office being consistent from one machine
> to the next and we know that it isn't.  Perhaps find out which
> versions of MS Office the pps does work well on and then write that in
> the blurb on the DVDs cover.  Such covers often demand that people
> upgrade to the latest versions of Windows and MS Office in order to be
> able to play the DVD and they make no apology for not working on all
> versions.
>
> OTH!  Can you squeeze LibreOffice installers onto the DVD?  One for
> Mac and one for Windows would do the trick.  No need to worry about
> any for Gnu&Linux!
>
> Note that when PDFs first started being used they would often be
> accompanied by a button linking to the Adobe downloads site and hardly
> anyone made a fuss about that.  They just installed it or grumbled to
> the their IT Department about not being able to open such a basic
> format.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> On 18 November 2013 07:46, Dave Liesse  wrote:
>> This is a follow-up to a question I asked in August.  I'm still struggling
>> with trying to create something that can be used in other systems.  Here's
>> what I've done:
>>
>> 1.  Created a slide show in Impress.  Slides auto-advance after 5 seconds,
>> and transitions are used to play appropriate music files. Previous tests by
>> myself and others on this list have shown that the links to the audio files
>> follow relative rather than absolute paths.
>>
>> 2.  Saved as .pps file.  Copied presentation and audio file directory --
>> pathing kept intact -- to thumb drive.
>>
>> 3.  Open .pps file on another computer that doesn't have LibreOffice
>> installed.  Slide show runs, music does not play.  Confirmed music files are
>> present.
>>
>> 4.  Rename original audio file directory on my hard drive for testing.  Run
>> slide show from thumb drive on my own computer.  Opens in Impress, of
>> course, and does not auto-run.  Music plays properly.
>>
>> This slide show is for distribution to others via DVD, and I'm really
>> getting frustrated with it.  I'd hate to think that the hours I've spent on
>> it have been wasted and that I have to start over with another application.
>> But I can't assume anything about the software anyone else has, and just
>> about everyone has the ability to view a .pps file regardless of their OS (I
>> can be pretty sure, but not 100% positive, that everyone on my distribution
>> list is using either Windows or Mac machines).  Can anyone see anything I've
>> overlooked?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show

2013-11-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Does it have to be in an editable format?

If NOT then maybe use Impress to save into some more reliable format
that doesn't change around from one version of MS Office to the next.
Some people have even suggested using .Pdf format but i think that
kinda scuppers the reason for having it as a slide-show.  Perhaps as a
YouTube format?  Perhaps as a Flash Player format?  Other people have
suggested using straight movie formats such as the ageing .avi or
newer .mkv.  For a Flash Player try
File - Export
and scroll down until you see "Macromedia Flash".  With that sort of
idea you might be able to embed the presentation within a web-page and
choose the size of the display.  Then save the web-pages onto the DVD.
 Let the web-browsers do the work!


If it DOES have to be editable then pps is probably the best format
but even so it relies on MS Office being consistent from one machine
to the next and we know that it isn't.  Perhaps find out which
versions of MS Office the pps does work well on and then write that in
the blurb on the DVDs cover.  Such covers often demand that people
upgrade to the latest versions of Windows and MS Office in order to be
able to play the DVD and they make no apology for not working on all
versions.

OTH!  Can you squeeze LibreOffice installers onto the DVD?  One for
Mac and one for Windows would do the trick.  No need to worry about
any for Gnu&Linux!

Note that when PDFs first started being used they would often be
accompanied by a button linking to the Adobe downloads site and hardly
anyone made a fuss about that.  They just installed it or grumbled to
the their IT Department about not being able to open such a basic
format.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 18 November 2013 07:46, Dave Liesse  wrote:
> This is a follow-up to a question I asked in August.  I'm still struggling
> with trying to create something that can be used in other systems.  Here's
> what I've done:
>
> 1.  Created a slide show in Impress.  Slides auto-advance after 5 seconds,
> and transitions are used to play appropriate music files. Previous tests by
> myself and others on this list have shown that the links to the audio files
> follow relative rather than absolute paths.
>
> 2.  Saved as .pps file.  Copied presentation and audio file directory --
> pathing kept intact -- to thumb drive.
>
> 3.  Open .pps file on another computer that doesn't have LibreOffice
> installed.  Slide show runs, music does not play.  Confirmed music files are
> present.
>
> 4.  Rename original audio file directory on my hard drive for testing.  Run
> slide show from thumb drive on my own computer.  Opens in Impress, of
> course, and does not auto-run.  Music plays properly.
>
> This slide show is for distribution to others via DVD, and I'm really
> getting frustrated with it.  I'd hate to think that the hours I've spent on
> it have been wasted and that I have to start over with another application.
> But I can't assume anything about the software anyone else has, and just
> about everyone has the ability to view a .pps file regardless of their OS (I
> can be pretty sure, but not 100% positive, that everyone on my distribution
> list is using either Windows or Mac machines).  Can anyone see anything I've
> overlooked?
>
> Dave
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show

2013-11-18 Thread anne-ology
   I was experiencing the same things; it's an incompatibility between
MsFt and others  ;-(

  finally, I just gave up on PPs and switched to videos  ;-)

   Here, I'll attempt to explain my work-arounds in case you still want
to fool with this ...
[see below]



From: Dave Liesse 
Date: Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:46 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


This is a follow-up to a question I asked in August.  I'm still struggling
with trying to create something that can be used in other systems.  Here's
what I've done:
   [since August ... you're quite patient]

1.  Created a slide show in Impress.  Slides auto-advance after 5 seconds,
and transitions are used to play appropriate music files. Previous tests by
myself and others on this list have shown that the links to the audio files
follow relative rather than absolute paths.
   [and LO makes great PPs, so I'm sure the details were there for a
well-done presentation]

2.  Saved as .pps file.  Copied presentation and audio file directory --
pathing kept intact -- to thumb drive.
   [the sound will drop out because MsFt uses their own system; the
individual slides might even become out-of-kilter]
   THUS solution is to re-add music and fix the messed up slides  ;-(

3.  Open .pps file on another computer that doesn't have LibreOffice
installed.  Slide show runs, music does not play.  Confirmed music files
are present.
   [see #2 above]

4.  Rename original audio file directory on my hard drive for testing.  Run
slide show from thumb drive on my own computer.  Opens in Impress, of
course, and does not auto-run.  Music plays properly.
   [the auto-run will not operate in the MsFt system due to their
system  ;-(  ]

This slide show is for distribution to others via DVD, and I'm really
getting frustrated with it.  I'd hate to think that the hours I've spent on
it have been wasted and that I have to start over with another application.
 But I can't assume anything about the software anyone else has, and just
about everyone has the ability to view a .pps file regardless of their OS
(I can be pretty sure, but not 100% positive, that everyone on my
distribution list is using either Windows or Mac machines).  Can anyone see
anything I've overlooked?

   THUS  my solution would be to return to the LO presentation and
export to a video - a good one is Aimersoft Video Studio Express which is
described - and free for the individual user -
http://www.techsupportalert.com/
   You will probably need to add each slide to the program ... then add
the sound ...
  then though you'll have a presentation which will be as you wish
it to be.
  And this will open with any program the receiver has on their
computer, and can be shown to an audience, ... ... ...


Dave

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[libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show

2013-11-17 Thread Dave Liesse
This is a follow-up to a question I asked in August.  I'm still 
struggling with trying to create something that can be used in other 
systems.  Here's what I've done:


1.  Created a slide show in Impress.  Slides auto-advance after 5 
seconds, and transitions are used to play appropriate music files. 
Previous tests by myself and others on this list have shown that the 
links to the audio files follow relative rather than absolute paths.


2.  Saved as .pps file.  Copied presentation and audio file directory -- 
pathing kept intact -- to thumb drive.


3.  Open .pps file on another computer that doesn't have LibreOffice 
installed.  Slide show runs, music does not play.  Confirmed music files 
are present.


4.  Rename original audio file directory on my hard drive for testing.  
Run slide show from thumb drive on my own computer.  Opens in Impress, 
of course, and does not auto-run.  Music plays properly.


This slide show is for distribution to others via DVD, and I'm really 
getting frustrated with it.  I'd hate to think that the hours I've spent 
on it have been wasted and that I have to start over with another 
application.  But I can't assume anything about the software anyone else 
has, and just about everyone has the ability to view a .pps file 
regardless of their OS (I can be pretty sure, but not 100% positive, 
that everyone on my distribution list is using either Windows or Mac 
machines).  Can anyone see anything I've overlooked?


Dave


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