Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
It's not as straight-forwards as that.  


In 99% (probably a lot  more) of times you have the auto-backup feature on you 
get no problems.  I have passed the idea on to the Docs Team though.    

Regards from 

Tom :)  





>
> From: Steve Edmonds 
>To: M Henri Day ; "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
> 
>Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013, 6:45
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6
> 
>
>
>On 2013-04-25 08:09, M Henri Day wrote:
>> 2013/4/23 Steve Edmonds > <mailto:steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com>>
>>
>>     Hi.
>>     I have had this with EPS drawings (with/without preview) for a
>>     long time. For those to not cause a problem I turn off
>>     Options>Load/Save>General>Save auto recovery information.
>>     Just a suggestion, you could give it a try.
>>     Steve
>>
>>     On 2013-04-23 22:21, William Drago wrote:
>>
>>         Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I
>>         did check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug
>>         mentioned, but it may manifest itself in different ways, so
>>         maybe it will be fixed in 4.0.3.
>>
>>         The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no longer
>>         save when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the document,
>>         and the drawings are gone). A significant amount of my work
>>         involves making drawings in LO Draw and using them in Writer
>>         documents. What I have been doing as a workaround is pasting
>>         screenshots of the drawings into Writer.
>>
>>         Thanks for all the replies...
>>
>>         -Bill
>>
>>
>> Disabling the Save auto recovery info option did the trick for me in 
>> Writer Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID: 
>> 4c82dcdd6efcd48b1d8bba66bfe1989deee49c3) on 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04. Nice !...
>>
>> Henri
>Do you think it should be in the manual as it seems to have been around 
>since 2.4, I am sure it would help a lot of people to know.
>Steve
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Steve Edmonds]

On 2013-04-25 08:09, M Henri Day wrote:
2013/4/23 Steve Edmonds >


Hi.
I have had this with EPS drawings (with/without preview) for a
long time. For those to not cause a problem I turn off
Options>Load/Save>General>Save auto recovery information.
Just a suggestion, you could give it a try.
Steve

On 2013-04-23 22:21, William Drago wrote:

Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I
did check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug
mentioned, but it may manifest itself in different ways, so
maybe it will be fixed in 4.0.3.

The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no longer
save when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the document,
and the drawings are gone). A significant amount of my work
involves making drawings in LO Draw and using them in Writer
documents. What I have been doing as a workaround is pasting
screenshots of the drawings into Writer.

Thanks for all the replies...

-Bill


Disabling the Save auto recovery info option did the trick for me in 
Writer Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID: 
4c82dcdd6efcd48b1d8bba66bfe1989deee49c3) on 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04. Nice !...


Henri
Do you think it should be in the manual as it seems to have been around 
since 2.4, I am sure it would help a lot of people to know.

Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Brian Barker]

At 11:19 24/04/2013 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:

Microsoft have every Tuesday as "Patch Tuesday".


No: only the second Tuesday in each month is Patch 
Tuesday.  (Otherwise they would be called "Tuesday"!)


Obviously if there is a really serious threat that they develop a 
patch for they sometimes release it asap rather than waiting ...


The update to some versions of Windows yesterday (er, that was 
Tuesday but not Patch Tuesday) was to replace one that was issued two 
weeks earlier (on Patch Tuesday - are you following?) but was 
withdrawn two days later when it was found to be defective.  Hence 
the current out-of-band publication.


... but for the most part they stick to holding patches back until 
the next Tuesday.


Er, the next *Patch* Tuesday.


I suspect it's more to do with rebooting, ...


Exactly so.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Congrats on fixing it! Now you see why it's so difficult to pin-down what the 
problem is.  

Microsoft have every Tuesday as "Patch Tuesday".  I think they copied the idea 
from Symantec (Norton) a few years ago.  Symantec use Thursdays.  It makes it 
easier and more predictable for Sys.Admins  rather than being completely 
unpredictable.  Patches and updates do sometimes break things so it's nice to 
know when they are going to happen.  Obviously if there is a really serious 
threat that they develop a patch for they sometimes release it asap rather than 
waiting but for the most part they stick to holding patches back until the next 
Tuesday.  

I suspect it's more to do with rebooting, or perhaps just restarting just LO 
after turning off the auto back-ups.  
Anyway, congrats and regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: William Drago 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2013, 2:51
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6
> 
>
>The problem is solved. I increased memory as was suggested 
>and that fixed it. The strange thing is, I reverted back to 
>the old memory settings and it's still fixed. Don't know 
>why. There was a Windows update this evening. I wonder if 
>that had anything to do with it and it wasn't a LO issue at all?
>
>-Bill
>
>
>On 4/23/2013 4:50 PM, Upscope wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 08:10:49 PM Tom Davies wrote:
>>> Hi :)
>>> Steve!  I think that was the trick the Docs Team mentioned!  Turn off
>>> the auto-back-ups and stuff.  Just remember to save often and make
>>> your own back-ups.  Regards from
>>> Tom :)
>> Turned off everything on the options/load-save/general page, still no
>> help.
>>>> ____
>>>>
>>>> From: Steve Edmonds 
>>>>
>>>> To: William Drago 
>>>> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 19:58
>>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to
>>>> 3.6.6
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>> I have had this with EPS drawings (with/without preview) for a long
>>>> time. For those to not cause a problem I turn off
>>>> Options>Load/Save>General>Save auto recovery information.
>>>> Just a suggestion, you could give it a try.
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> On 2013-04-23 22:21, William Drago wrote:
>>>>> Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I did
>>>>> check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug mentioned, but
>>>>> it may manifest itself in different ways, so maybe it will be
>>>>> fixed in 4.0.3.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no longer save
>>>>> when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the document, and the
>>>>> drawings are gone). A significant amount of my work involves making
>>>>> drawings in LO Draw and using them in Writer documents. What I have
>>>>> been doing as a workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings
>>>>> into Writer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all the replies...
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>>>>> Hi :)
>>>>>> I found this link on the official website
>>>>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
>>>>>> I got there from the main website
>>>>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/
>>>>>> then the trail
>>>>>> "Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> got me to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> keep promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> never quite get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly
>>>>>> early but really liked it and stuck with it.  I was going to hunt
>>>>>> around the different articles published at the time to solve
>>>>>> problems
>>>>>> raised in their various lists of comments.  A few seemed so ve

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[William Drago]

The problem is solved. I increased memory as was suggested 
and that fixed it. The strange thing is, I reverted back to 
the old memory settings and it's still fixed. Don't know 
why. There was a Windows update this evening. I wonder if 
that had anything to do with it and it wasn't a LO issue at all?


-Bill


On 4/23/2013 4:50 PM, Upscope wrote:

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 08:10:49 PM Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Steve!  I think that was the trick the Docs Team mentioned!  Turn off
the auto-back-ups and stuff.  Just remember to save often and make
your own back-ups.  Regards from
Tom :)

Turned off everything on the options/load-save/general page, still no
help.



From: Steve Edmonds 

To: William Drago 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 19:58
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to
3.6.6


Hi.
I have had this with EPS drawings (with/without preview) for a long
time. For those to not cause a problem I turn off
Options>Load/Save>General>Save auto recovery information.
Just a suggestion, you could give it a try.
Steve

On 2013-04-23 22:21, William Drago wrote:

Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I did
check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug mentioned, but
it may manifest itself in different ways, so maybe it will be
fixed in 4.0.3.

The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no longer save
when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the document, and the
drawings are gone). A significant amount of my work involves making
drawings in LO Draw and using them in Writer documents. What I have
been doing as a workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings
into Writer.

Thanks for all the replies...

-Bill

On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I found this link on the official website
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
I got there from the main website
http://www.libreoffice.org/
then the trail
"Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"

got me to

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/



Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and
i
keep promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time
but
never quite get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly
early but really liked it and stuck with it.  I was going to hunt
around the different articles published at the time to solve
problems
raised in their various lists of comments.  A few seemed so very
trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had ever installed
anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through that let alone
helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this time i really have
downloaded the beta. Hopefully my good intentions wont get so
side-tracked this time!


Regards from

Tom :)



From: Upscope 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27




Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse
version of 4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from
LibreOffice parallel
installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my
cleints now usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table
formatting with the number formatting columns, some of it
doesn't work again.

If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems
I'll
report them again as bugs.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Upscope]

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 08:10:49 PM Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Steve!  I think that was the trick the Docs Team mentioned!  Turn off
> the auto-back-ups and stuff.  Just remember to save often and make
> your own back-ups.  Regards from
> Tom :) 
Turned off everything on the options/load-save/general page, still no 
help.
> >
> >
> > From: Steve Edmonds 
> >
> >To: William Drago 
> >Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 19:58
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to
> >3.6.6
> >
> >
> >Hi.
> >I have had this with EPS drawings (with/without preview) for a long
> >time. For those to not cause a problem I turn off
> >Options>Load/Save>General>Save auto recovery information.
> >Just a suggestion, you could give it a try.
> >Steve
> >
> >On 2013-04-23 22:21, William Drago wrote:
> >> Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I did
> >> check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug mentioned, but
> >> it may manifest itself in different ways, so maybe it will be
> >> fixed in 4.0.3.
> >> 
> >> The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no longer save
> >> when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the document, and the
> >> drawings are gone). A significant amount of my work involves making
> >> drawings in LO Draw and using them in Writer documents. What I have
> >> been doing as a workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings
> >> into Writer.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for all the replies...
> >> 
> >> -Bill
> >> 
> >> On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> >>> Hi :)
> >>> I found this link on the official website
> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
> >>> I got there from the main website
> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/
> >>> then the trail
> >>> "Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"
> >>> 
> >>> got me to
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and
> >>> i
> >>> keep promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time
> >>> but
> >>> never quite get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly
> >>> early but really liked it and stuck with it.  I was going to hunt
> >>> around the different articles published at the time to solve
> >>> problems
> >>> raised in their various lists of comments.  A few seemed so very
> >>> trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had ever installed
> >>> anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through that let alone
> >>> helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this time i really have
> >>> downloaded the beta. Hopefully my good intentions wont get so
> >>> side-tracked this time!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Regards from
> >>> 
> >>> Tom :)
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> From: Upscope 
> >>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse
> >>>> version of 4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from
> >>>> LibreOffice parallel
> >>>> installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my
> >>>> cleints now usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table
> >>>> formatting with the number formatting columns, some of it
> >>>> doesn't work again.
> >>>> 
> >>>> If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems
> >>>> I'll
> >>>> report them again as bugs.
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Upscope]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 06:58:24 AM Steve Edmonds wrote:

> Hi.
> I have had this with EPS drawings (with/without preview) for a long
> time. For those to not cause a problem I turn off
> Options>Load/Save>General>Save auto recovery information.
> Just a suggestion, you could give it a try.
> Steve

 Did not make a difference.
Thanks for the idea.

Russ 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Steve!  I think that was the trick the Docs Team mentioned!  Turn off the 
auto-back-ups and stuff.  Just remember to save often and make your own 
back-ups.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






>
> From: Steve Edmonds 
>To: William Drago  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 19:58
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6
> 
>
>Hi.
>I have had this with EPS drawings (with/without preview) for a long 
>time. For those to not cause a problem I turn off 
>Options>Load/Save>General>Save auto recovery information.
>Just a suggestion, you could give it a try.
>Steve
>
>On 2013-04-23 22:21, William Drago wrote:
>> Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I did check 
>> the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug mentioned, but it may 
>> manifest itself in different ways, so maybe it will be fixed in 4.0.3.
>>
>> The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no longer save 
>> when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the document, and the 
>> drawings are gone). A significant amount of my work involves making 
>> drawings in LO Draw and using them in Writer documents. What I have 
>> been doing as a workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings into 
>> Writer.
>>
>> Thanks for all the replies...
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>>
>> On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>> Hi :)
>>> I found this link on the official website
>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
>>> I got there from the main website
>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/
>>> then the trail
>>> "Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"
>>>
>>> got me to
>>>
>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and i 
>>> keep promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time but 
>>> never quite get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly 
>>> early but really liked it and stuck with it.  I was going to hunt 
>>> around the different articles published at the time to solve problems 
>>> raised in their various lists of comments.  A few seemed so very 
>>> trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had ever installed 
>>> anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through that let alone 
>>> helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this time i really have 
>>> downloaded the beta. Hopefully my good intentions wont get so 
>>> side-tracked this time!
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards from
>>>
>>> Tom :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: Upscope 
>>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse version of
>>>> 4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from LibreOffice 
>>>> parallel
>>>> installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my cleints now
>>>> usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table formatting with the
>>>> number formatting columns, some of it doesn't work again.
>>>>
>>>> If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems I'll
>>>> report them again as bugs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
I have had this with EPS drawings (with/without preview) for a long 
time. For those to not cause a problem I turn off 
Options>Load/Save>General>Save auto recovery information.

Just a suggestion, you could give it a try.
Steve

On 2013-04-23 22:21, William Drago wrote:
Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I did check 
the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug mentioned, but it may 
manifest itself in different ways, so maybe it will be fixed in 4.0.3.


The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no longer save 
when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the document, and the 
drawings are gone). A significant amount of my work involves making 
drawings in LO Draw and using them in Writer documents. What I have 
been doing as a workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings into 
Writer.


Thanks for all the replies...

-Bill


On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I found this link on the official website
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
I got there from the main website
http://www.libreoffice.org/
then the trail
"Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"

got me to

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/



Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and i 
keep promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time but 
never quite get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly 
early but really liked it and stuck with it.  I was going to hunt 
around the different articles published at the time to solve problems 
raised in their various lists of comments.  A few seemed so very 
trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had ever installed 
anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through that let alone 
helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this time i really have 
downloaded the beta. Hopefully my good intentions wont get so 
side-tracked this time!



Regards from

Tom :)







From: Upscope 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27




Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse version of
4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from LibreOffice 
parallel

installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my cleints now
usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table formatting with the
number formatting columns, some of it doesn't work again.

If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems I'll
report them again as bugs.








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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Both and any other settings in there too.  

For some reason i drop the number of undo steps as 100 seems fairly excessive 
to me but then it depends on the type of editing.  I think i usually create 
back-ups or newer versions more often than that anyway.  

The defaults seem set for ancient machines or VERY mobile ones that might not 
have much or any Ram or anything.  Nowadays, on a reasonable desktop, 10-15Mb 
per object doesn't seem unreasonable and i might have quite a lot of objects.  
Adding front and back-pages of my newsletter i get around 25 images but then 
it's mostly just 2 per page for the rest.  I've not really messed around with 
this machine and it seems very low with only 20Mb for the "use for LibreOffice" 
so i might bump that up quite a lot.  I do have over 1Gb of Ram after all! :)  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Upscope 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 15:26
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6
> 
>
>On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:44:29 AM Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :) 
>> Thanks :) 
>> 
>> Hmm, that vanishing images problem kinda sounds familiar! :(  It was
>> discussed on the Documentation Team's mailing list a couple of years
>> ago so i have CC'd this email to them as they found a good
>> work-around. 
>
>> I found that bumping up the memory settings seemed to help a bit
>> Tools - Options - Memory
>> but mostly the problem seemed to vanish when i had saved the images in
>> the same folder as the document, or in a sub-folder as would happen
>> with html pages.  I was never completely sure if the main answer was
>> having the document and images on my local desktop rather than some
>> on the network and some on the file-server.  The problem eventually
>> disappeared for me but i was never entirely certain why. 
>> 
>Did you bump the "Use for LibreOffice" or "Memory per Object" or Both?
>
>that could be my problem with the graphics. Will experiment later today.
>
>> 
>> Regards from
>> Tom :) 
>> 
>> >____
>> >
>> > From: William Drago 
>> >
>> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> >Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 11:21
>> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to
>> >3.6.6
>> >
>> >
>> >Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I
>> >did check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug
>> >mentioned, but it may manifest itself in different ways, so
>> >maybe it will be fixed in 4.0.3.
>> >
>> >The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no
>> >longer save when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the
>> >document, and the drawings are gone). A significant amount
>> >of my work involves making drawings in LO Draw and using
>> >them in Writer documents. What I have been doing as a
>> >workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings into Writer.
>> >
>> >Thanks for all the replies...
>> >
>> >-Bill
>> >
>> >On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> >> Hi :)
>> >> I found this link on the official website
>> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
>> >> I got there from the main website
>> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/
>> >> then the trail
>> >> "Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"
>> >> 
>> >> got me to
>> >> 
>> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and
>> >> i keep promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time
>> >> but never quite get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0
>> >> fairly early but really liked it and stuck with it.  I was going
>> >> to hunt around the different articles published at the time to
>> >> solve problems raised in their various lists of comments.  A few
>> >> seemed so very trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had
>> >> ever installed anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through
>> >> that let alone helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this
>> >> time i really have downloaded the beta.  Hopefully my good
>> >> intentions wont get so side-tracked this time!
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >&

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Upscope]

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:44:29 AM Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :) 
> Thanks :) 
> 
> Hmm, that vanishing images problem kinda sounds familiar! :(  It was
> discussed on the Documentation Team's mailing list a couple of years
> ago so i have CC'd this email to them as they found a good
> work-around. 

> I found that bumping up the memory settings seemed to help a bit
> Tools - Options - Memory
> but mostly the problem seemed to vanish when i had saved the images in
> the same folder as the document, or in a sub-folder as would happen
> with html pages.  I was never completely sure if the main answer was
> having the document and images on my local desktop rather than some
> on the network and some on the file-server.  The problem eventually
> disappeared for me but i was never entirely certain why. 
> 
 
> Regards from
> Tom :) 
> 
> >
> >
> > From: William Drago 
> >
> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 11:21
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to
> >3.6.6
> >
> >
> >Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I
> >did check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug
> >mentioned, but it may manifest itself in different ways, so
> >maybe it will be fixed in 4.0.3.
> >
> >The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no
> >longer save when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the
> >document, and the drawings are gone). A significant amount
> >of my work involves making drawings in LO Draw and using
> >them in Writer documents. What I have been doing as a
> >workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings into Writer.
> >
> >Thanks for all the replies...
> >
> >-Bill
> >
> >On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> >> Hi :)
> >> I found this link on the official website
> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
> >> I got there from the main website
> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/
> >> then the trail
> >> "Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"
> >> 
> >> got me to
> >> 
> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and
> >> i keep promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time
> >> but never quite get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0
> >> fairly early but really liked it and stuck with it.  I was going
> >> to hunt around the different articles published at the time to
> >> solve problems raised in their various lists of comments.  A few
> >> seemed so very trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had
> >> ever installed anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through
> >> that let alone helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this
> >> time i really have downloaded the beta.  Hopefully my good
> >> intentions wont get so side-tracked this time!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Regards from
> >> 
> >> Tom :)
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> From: Upscope 
> >>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse
> >>> version of 4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from
> >>> LibreOffice parallel installed. Both had same two major problems
> >>> for me since my cleints now usually send .docx documents and I do
> >>> alot of table formatting with the number formatting columns, some
> >>> of it doesn't work again.
> >>> 
> >>> If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems
> >>> I'll
> >>> report them again as bugs.
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Upscope]

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 09:58:14 AM Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I found this link on the official website
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
> I got there from the main website
> http://www.libreoffice.org/
> then the trail
> "Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"
> 
> got me to
> 
> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/
> 
> 
> 
> Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and i
> keep promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time but
> never quite get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly
> early but really liked it and stuck with it.  I was going to hunt
> around the different articles published at the time to solve problems
> raised in their various lists of comments.  A few seemed so very
> trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had ever installed
> anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through that let alone
> helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this time i really have
> downloaded the beta.  Hopefully my good intentions wont get so
> side-tracked this time!
> 
> 
> Regards from
> 
> Tom :) 
> 
> >
> >
> > From: Upscope 
> >
> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse version
> >of 4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from LibreOffice
> >parallel installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my
> >cleints now usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table
> >formatting with the number formatting columns, some of it doesn't
> >work again.
> >
> >If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems I'll
> >report them again as bugs.
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)  
Thanks :)  

Hmm, that vanishing images problem kinda sounds familiar! :(  It was discussed 
on the Documentation Team's mailing list a couple of years ago so i have CC'd 
this email to them as they found a good work-around.  

I found that bumping up the memory settings seemed to help a bit 
Tools - Options - Memory
but mostly the problem seemed to vanish when i had saved the images in the same 
folder as the document, or in a sub-folder as would happen with html pages.  I 
was never completely sure if the main answer was having the document and images 
on my local desktop rather than some on the network and some on the 
file-server.  The problem eventually disappeared for me but i was never 
entirely certain why.  

The issue is a long-running bug that really seems to be a collection of bugs 
each of which has the same final outcome but each having very different causes 
with different variables.  The Docs Team managed to pin-down 1 specific 
instance and that seemed to get fixed.  Another problem is that the bug(s) 
is/are very rare and difficult to reproduce so it's difficult to pin anything 
down.  After it almost magically stopped misbehaving  on my own machine i could 
not get it to happen again on any machine at work :(   (or should that be a 
smiley rather than a frown?)

Regards from 
Tom :)  






>
> From: William Drago 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 11:21
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6
> 
>
>Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I 
>did check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug 
>mentioned, but it may manifest itself in different ways, so 
>maybe it will be fixed in 4.0.3.
>
>The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no 
>longer save when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the 
>document, and the drawings are gone). A significant amount 
>of my work involves making drawings in LO Draw and using 
>them in Writer documents. What I have been doing as a 
>workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings into Writer.
>
>Thanks for all the replies...
>
>-Bill
>
>
>On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> I found this link on the official website
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
>> I got there from the main website
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/
>> then the trail
>> "Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"
>>
>> got me to
>>
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/
>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and i keep 
>> promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time but never quite 
>> get around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly early but really liked 
>> it and stuck with it.  I was going to hunt around the different articles 
>> published at the time to solve problems raised in their various lists of 
>> comments.  A few seemed so very trivial that it made me wonder if the 
>> commenter had ever installed anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get 
>> through that let alone helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this time 
>> i really have downloaded the beta.  Hopefully my good intentions wont get so 
>> side-tracked this time!
>>
>>
>> Regards from
>>
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 
>>> From: Upscope 
>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse version of
>>> 4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from LibreOffice parallel
>>> installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my cleints now
>>> usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table formatting with the
>>> number formatting columns, some of it doesn't work again.
>>>
>>> If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems I'll
>>> report them again as bugs.
>>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[William Drago]

Well, I may wait for 4.0.3 and see if that fixes anything. I 
did check the bugs list and I don't see my specific bug 
mentioned, but it may manifest itself in different ways, so 
maybe it will be fixed in 4.0.3.


The bug that makes LO 4 unusable for me is drawings no 
longer save when pasted into Writer (exit LO, re-open the 
document, and the drawings are gone). A significant amount 
of my work involves making drawings in LO Draw and using 
them in Writer documents. What I have been doing as a 
workaround is pasting screenshots of the drawings into Writer.


Thanks for all the replies...

-Bill


On 4/23/2013 4:58 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I found this link on the official website
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
I got there from the main website
http://www.libreoffice.org/
then the trail
"Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA"

got me to

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/



Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and i keep 
promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time but never quite get 
around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly early but really liked it and 
stuck with it.  I was going to hunt around the different articles published at 
the time to solve problems raised in their various lists of comments.  A few 
seemed so very trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had ever 
installed anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through that let alone 
helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this time i really have downloaded 
the beta.  Hopefully my good intentions wont get so side-tracked this time!


Regards from

Tom :)







From: Upscope 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27




Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse version of
4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from LibreOffice parallel
installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my cleints now
usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table formatting with the
number formatting columns, some of it doesn't work again.

If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems I'll
report them again as bugs.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I found this link on the official website
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
I got there from the main website
http://www.libreoffice.org/
then the trail
"Main website" - "Get involved" - "QA" 

got me to 

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/



Hmm, you caught me out.  What i described is what i wish i did and i keep 
promising myself i will do next time, this time, each time but never quite get 
around to it.  Errr, well tried the 4.0.0 fairly early but really liked it and 
stuck with it.  I was going to hunt around the different articles published at 
the time to solve problems raised in their various lists of comments.  A few 
seemed so very trivial that it made me wonder if the commenter had ever 
installed anything before.  Sadly i didn't even get through that let alone 
helping with testing out listed bugs.  So, this time i really have downloaded 
the beta.  Hopefully my good intentions wont get so side-tracked this time!


Regards from 

Tom :)  





>
> From: Upscope 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013, 1:27
>
>
>
>
>Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse version of 
>4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from LibreOffice parallel 
>installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my cleints now 
>usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table formatting with the 
>number formatting columns, some of it doesn't work again. 
>
>If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems I'll 
>report them again as bugs.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Upscope]

On Monday, April 22, 2013 09:42:33 PM Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :) 
> On my own machine at home and at work I think it is a good policy to
> download and install new versions of new branches asap.  Preferably
> even at beta-release stage (ie pre-release).  That allows me to test
> out all the features i think i use and play around to see if it feels
> alright. 
> 
> Then i can post bug-reports while the devs are still most keen and
> most focussed on fixing things and smoothing it out.  It's not always
> quick to fix but it helps the devs.  It might be really great if
> people could test out a new branch at pre-release stage and then go
> through some of the existing bug-reports to quickly see if they are
> still a problem with the newer release.  That might really help the
> devs. 
> 
> Of course on colleagues machines i stick with the stable branch.  Any
> release after x.x.3 is much more stable, with x.x.6 being about as
> rock-solid as it's possible to get. 
> 
> The question is are you happy to just sit&hope that someone else
> happens to notice issues that you personally find crucial?  I'd
> rather have an active say in pushing forwards things that i want to
> see fixed. 
> 
> After having a test drive i can always reinstall the older version if
> i need to/  "Simples" :) 
> 
> Errr, in the case of the 4.0.0 i got really lucky and found everything
> i cared about just seems to work!  WooHooo :D Regards from
> Tom :) 
> 
> >
> >
> > From: M Henri Day 
> >
> >To: Virgil Arrington 
> >Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013, 19:13
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to
> >3.6.6
> >
> >
> >2013/4/22 Virgil Arrington 
> >
> >> Bill,
> >> 
> >> I hate to say it, but that was my experience as well with 4.0.
> >> There was an important feature (to me at least) that worked well
> >> on 3.6 but no longer worked in 4.0. I found the regression to be
> >> especially distressing.
> >> 
> >> I simply uninstalled 4.0, and reinstalled 3.6. If I recall, the
> >> uninstall process (I also use Win7) did not delete the 4.0 user
> >> profile "users\(your user
> >> name)\AppData\Roaming\**Libreoffice\4.0\etc, so I was able to copy
> >> what I needed to the Libreoffice\3.0\etc. user profile after
> >> installing 3.6.
> >> 
> >> I've decided to be more deliberate about upgrading in the future.
> >> Study the release notes and check out bug reports. LO 3.6 works
> >> very well for me, so I probably won't upgrade until the
> >> latest/greatest has a feature I really need or fixes bugs that
> >> have bothered me in the past.
> >> 
> >> Virgil
> >
> ><...>
> >
> >Bill and Virgil, it might be helpful to the developers if you could
> >point out the specific bugs/missing features, etc, that have been
> >causing you problems in 4.0
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Do you have a link to the beta versions? I have the opensuse version of 
4.0.2 with latest update (yesterday) and 4.0.2 from LibreOffice parallel 
installed. Both had same two major problems for me since my cleints now 
usually send .docx documents and I do alot of table formatting with the 
number formatting columns, some of it doesn't work again. 

If I could get a hold of 4.0.3 and if it still has the problems I'll 
report them again as bugs.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I remember.  You did what i wish i did but never quite get around to.  
Regards from 
Tom :)





>
> From: Virgil Arrington 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013, 21:30
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6
> 
>
>Henri wrote:
>Bill and Virgil, it might be helpful to the developers if you could point out 
>the specific bugs/missing features, etc, that have been causing you problems 
>in 4.0
>
>Henri
>
>
>I did.
>
>Virgil
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)  
On my own machine at home and at work I think it is a good policy to download 
and install new versions of new branches asap.  Preferably even at beta-release 
stage (ie pre-release).  That allows me to test out all the features i think i 
use and play around to see if it feels alright.  

Then i can post bug-reports while the devs are still most keen and most 
focussed on fixing things and smoothing it out.  It's not always quick to fix 
but it helps the devs.  It might be really great if people could test out a new 
branch at pre-release stage and then go through some of the existing 
bug-reports to quickly see if they are still a problem with the newer release.  
That might really help the devs.  

Of course on colleagues machines i stick with the stable branch.  Any release 
after x.x.3 is much more stable, with x.x.6 being about as rock-solid as it's 
possible to get.  

The question is are you happy to just sit&hope that someone else happens to 
notice issues that you personally find crucial?  I'd rather have an active say 
in pushing forwards things that i want to see fixed.  

After having a test drive i can always reinstall the older version if i need 
to/  "Simples" :)  

Errr, in the case of the 4.0.0 i got really lucky and found everything i cared 
about just seems to work!  WooHooo :D
Regards from 
Tom :)  






>
> From: M Henri Day 
>To: Virgil Arrington  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013, 19:13
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6
> 
>
>2013/4/22 Virgil Arrington 
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I hate to say it, but that was my experience as well with 4.0. There was
>> an important feature (to me at least) that worked well on 3.6 but no longer
>> worked in 4.0. I found the regression to be especially distressing.
>>
>> I simply uninstalled 4.0, and reinstalled 3.6. If I recall, the uninstall
>> process (I also use Win7) did not delete the 4.0 user profile "users\(your
>> user name)\AppData\Roaming\**Libreoffice\4.0\etc, so I was able to copy
>> what I needed to the Libreoffice\3.0\etc. user profile after installing 3.6.
>>
>> I've decided to be more deliberate about upgrading in the future. Study
>> the release notes and check out bug reports. LO 3.6 works very well for me,
>> so I probably won't upgrade until the latest/greatest has a feature I
>> really need or fixes bugs that have bothered me in the past.
>>
>> Virgil
>>
>
><...>
>
>Bill and Virgil, it might be helpful to the developers if you could point
>out the specific bugs/missing features, etc, that have been causing you
>problems in 4.0
>
>Henri
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Virgil Arrington]

Henri wrote:
Bill and Virgil, it might be helpful to the developers if you could point out 
the specific bugs/missing features, etc, that have been causing you problems in 
4.0

Henri


I did.

Virgil
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[anne-ology]

   Have you looked in your Download folder?;
   if you still have the older version there, then merely delete
the newer one and re-install the older.

   I'm so glad I don't have that urge to 'upgrade immediately, if not
sooner';
   bugs frustrate me ...
   2 weeks ago, I was trying to get rid of a red ant hill -
again - and 2 of those nasty things bit my ankle; it's just now healing  ;-)
   [oh, there I go off topic a-g-a-i-n  ;-) ]



On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:31 PM, William Drago  wrote:

All,
>
> While I appreciate the tremendous amount of work that has gone into LO 4,
> it's still a little too buggy for me and I'd like to go back to LO 3.6.6.
> Is it a simple matter of uninstalling 4 and re-installing 3? (I'm running
> Windows 7).
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[M Henri Day]

2013/4/22 Virgil Arrington 

> Bill,
>
> I hate to say it, but that was my experience as well with 4.0. There was
> an important feature (to me at least) that worked well on 3.6 but no longer
> worked in 4.0. I found the regression to be especially distressing.
>
> I simply uninstalled 4.0, and reinstalled 3.6. If I recall, the uninstall
> process (I also use Win7) did not delete the 4.0 user profile "users\(your
> user name)\AppData\Roaming\**Libreoffice\4.0\etc, so I was able to copy
> what I needed to the Libreoffice\3.0\etc. user profile after installing 3.6.
>
> I've decided to be more deliberate about upgrading in the future. Study
> the release notes and check out bug reports. LO 3.6 works very well for me,
> so I probably won't upgrade until the latest/greatest has a feature I
> really need or fixes bugs that have bothered me in the past.
>
> Virgil
>

<...>

Bill and Virgil, it might be helpful to the developers if you could point
out the specific bugs/missing features, etc, that have been causing you
problems in 4.0

Henri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Virgil Arrington]

Bill,

I hate to say it, but that was my experience as well with 4.0. There was an 
important feature (to me at least) that worked well on 3.6 but no longer 
worked in 4.0. I found the regression to be especially distressing.


I simply uninstalled 4.0, and reinstalled 3.6. If I recall, the uninstall 
process (I also use Win7) did not delete the 4.0 user profile "users\(your 
user name)\AppData\Roaming\Libreoffice\4.0\etc, so I was able to copy what I 
needed to the Libreoffice\3.0\etc. user profile after installing 3.6.


I've decided to be more deliberate about upgrading in the future. Study the 
release notes and check out bug reports. LO 3.6 works very well for me, so I 
probably won't upgrade until the latest/greatest has a feature I really need 
or fixes bugs that have bothered me in the past.


Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: William Drago

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:31 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

All,

While I appreciate the tremendous amount of work that has
gone into LO 4, it's still a little too buggy for me and I'd
like to go back to LO 3.6.6. Is it a simple matter of
uninstalling 4 and re-installing 3? (I'm running Windows 7).

Thanks,
Bill

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Yes.  

It should be that easy.  The only issue is that the 3.6.x branch wont pick-up 
all the settings and configurations of branch 4.0.x, but that might be 
advantageous anyway.  

Before doing the uninstall-reinstall it might be worth considering a couple of 
other options
1.  Renaming your user-profile often fixes weird and unlikely problems 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile
branch 4.0.x might not be picking-up the settings and configurations you set 
for branch 3.x.x but i think you can rename folder 3 to folder 4 to sort that 
out.  

2.  Maybe install 3.6.x alongside 4.0.x.  I wouldn't advise this as it can get 
a bit confusing
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel

3.  Wait a few days and then install the 4.0.3 when it gets released.  
Typically new branches have added tons of functionality and better 
compatibility with MS formats but have been a little buggy sometimes until they 
reach around x.x.3 or x.x.4.  That 3rd digit is a little like the "Service 
Packs" that MS uses for it's stuff except they only do 3 whereas LibreOffice 
does about 6 during the life-cycle.  Many people wouldn't consider installing 
an MS product until at least Sp1.  Prior to the 4.0.x i usually didn't upgrade 
until around x.x.3.  I've been quite happy with the 4.0.x but maybe that was 
luck or that i didn't use it so much.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: William Drago 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 22 April 2013, 2:31
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6
> 
>
>All,
>
>While I appreciate the tremendous amount of work that has gone into LO 4, it's 
>still a little too buggy for me and I'd like to go back to LO 3.6.6. Is it a 
>simple matter of uninstalling 4 and re-installing 3? (I'm running Windows 7).
>
>Thanks,
>Bill
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[libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

[William Drago]

All,

While I appreciate the tremendous amount of work that has 
gone into LO 4, it's still a little too buggy for me and I'd 
like to go back to LO 3.6.6. Is it a simple matter of 
uninstalling 4 and re-installing 3? (I'm running Windows 7).


Thanks,
Bill

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