Re: [libreoffice-users] Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?
On 02/06/2012, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: There seems to be differenting opinions on how business ready 3.5.3 was So now that LO 3.5.4 is out, I ask the users, is it ready to be deployed to my/our business users? Study the bug reports. So I am asking LO users the question. Is 3.5.4 ready for our business and/or enterprise users? To achieve high quality software, testing must be performed. See: http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg17418.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg17418.html. Those that want good quality software should contribute towards testing and continually pressurise LO organisers to release software only when quality control tests are surpassed. The current procedure of releasing software at a regular time, regardless of software quality is fundamentally weak and will always result in poor quality products. No other quality-conscious industry uses such a dubious production procedure. The fundamental weakness of LO programmers is their obsession with new features (then ask users to test bugs!) instead of higher quality (and not ask as enthusiastically users to test the quality of the software: compare the ease of finding new features with finding quality test procedures!!). This needs to stop, especially for FLOSS. As for the so-called 'guerilla marketing' strategy, that is flawed also. This is proven by a simple observation of the m$ web sites: until m$ users start to write in significant numbers how to open this odt file that I received from someone using this high quality odf LO product..., the utopian dream that using LO as an m$ clone will lead to a decline in the quality of m$ documents being distributed, will remain a dream. Apple made a business decision not to tolerate the terrible format that is adobe fla$h. The result was a contribution to the growth of html5 (see http://www.youtube.com/html5); apple did not choose to accept fla$h and html5, then hope for html5 to become dominant! Instead, they took a risk in rejecting fla$h and will reap the benefits in the long term. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?
On 05/06/2012, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: To achieve high quality software, testing must be performed. See: http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg17418.html and http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg17418.html. Sorry, the last hyperlink above should have been: http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg20498.html -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/2/2012 10:46 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I ask the users, is it ready to be deployed to my/our business users? We really need to know. It depends on how you use it. As with all releases, it has some bugs. My office is not using any of the 3.5 line yet because of a persistent bug related to Calc and importing data from databases (basically, you can't filter the data being brought in from the data sources browser at all). Since we use Calc to bring in data from a database to generate invoices, do payroll, etc., this obviously means LibO 3.5.x is of no use to us. If all you are looking to do is use the word processor, however, 3.5.x should be fine. - -- Steven Shelton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/M7qQACgkQXUonIzCvpdNtSwCghZYfC4MWidkvEoQfs1PsGsBH 2kgAn1mjKKnTNIrsQ6lcurvglXt2qH9B =G7tq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?
Hi :) Smart move! If more of us tried very early releases, preferably when still at alpha or beta testing stages then we could each quickly check that the 'obvious' (but different for each of us) things we use. For those rare flukes where something might not work the way you expect then posting a bug-report at that point would be more likely to generate action and fixes. Devs are likely to be most interested in solving problems for things they are currently working on. After official release interest is likely to wane at best or just drop-away completely. Same as you me any other human beings. Do you put most work into something that you are currently working on or something you ditched last year? Why would devs be any different? So the best tactic would be to catch them at the point they are most likely to be most keen by testing alpha and beta releases before anyone else gets their bug-reports in! ;) Of course some devs do make a huge effort to rake back over old and dead stuff but most of the focus is likely to be on the new and exciting. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Get ahead of the game! Unlike non-OpenSource projects you can get your things looked at, if you play it right (and have a little luck), even if you don't have any coding skill. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 2/6/12, John Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote: snip / I am a business user. What issues are you thinking about that might determine if the product is business ready. I usually wait for a couple of weeks to upgrade until all the dust settles. I don't research the pkg. I use the same features usually, so I just see how LO works differently with the features that I use. John -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Is 3.5.4 ready for business users?
There seems to be differenting opinions on how business ready 3.5.3 was So now that LO 3.5.4 is out, I ask the users, is it ready to be deployed to my/our business users? We really need to know. The last official word on the 3.5.x line was that business users would research the package before downloading and installing it. Well, I do not know how they will to all that research, or where they will get the documentation for it, before downloading it. So I am asking LO users the question. Is 3.5.4 ready for our business and/or enterprise users? The doc people are work hard to get more 3.5.x line documentation out, but to be honest about it people can still use 3.3.x and 3.4.x docs till 3.5.x comes out. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
