Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
At 11:51 17/02/2012 -0500, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: What you see is what you get is the rule of thumb. It's an interface for human beings. Anything else is asking for trouble. Are you advocating WYSIWYG? This is diametrically wrong. If you are looking at the appearance of a document, you can have no idea what it will look like after you add a single character to make that final editing correction: the amount of consequential change is unlimited. If you are instead looking at the structure of a document, you may not know its precise appearance either before or after the edit, but you can be sure that both appearances will be what you are happy with. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
What you see is what you get is the rule of thumb. It's an interface for human beings. Anything else is asking for trouble. On 2/14/2012 11:20 AM, noibs wrote: I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-3-5-Can-t-see-page-margins-in-Writer-tp3744148p3744148.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
Le 17/02/2012 17:51, Paul D. Mirowsky a écrit : What you see is what you get is the rule of thumb. It's an interface for human beings. Anything else is asking for trouble. Do you mean you never display the unprintable chars? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
Absolutely not. Everything has a time and a place. The time for the entire page including its edge may be preview mode to some, just not me. No doubt, I would never try to make a database form document with out looking very carefully at every unprintable character I could find. On 2/17/2012 12:14 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Le 17/02/2012 17:51, Paul D. Mirowsky a écrit : What you see is what you get is the rule of thumb. It's an interface for human beings. Anything else is asking for trouble. Do you mean you never display the unprintable chars? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
Le 15/02/2012 19:42, Mirosław Zalewski a écrit : At least in 3.5-rc3, because I had no time to test final 3.5. Final 3.5 is 3.5-rc3 -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
On Wednesday 15 February 2012 05:20, noibs wrote: I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3. I can only tell you where it was: Tools - Options... +OpenOffice.org - Appearance Text Boundaries (2nd from the top) Perhaps they just have it off by default? Seems silly to re-program just for a tick box setting. -- Michael -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
2012/2/14 yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it: On 14/02/12 17:49, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/14/2012 10:34 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/2/14 noibsnoibs...@me.com: I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3. Thanks. I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible ”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean. feature? to eliminate a wanted behaviour is considered a feature?? Please feel free to replace that word with another word of your choice. Maybe ”changes” would be better in this case: ”I think one of the changes in 3.5 is getting rid of…” Or maybe not, hard for me to tell. English is not my native language, but I do the best I can. It's good enough in most cases, but obviously not always. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ then suppress the possibility to color the text, it will be another fantastic brand new feature Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck? me, it's me I like to see the margin borders... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
On 15/02/2012 at 08:13, Michael Adams webwiz...@clear.net.nz wrote: I can only tell you where it was: Tools - Options... +OpenOffice.org - Appearance Text Boundaries (2nd from the top) Perhaps they just have it off by default? Seems silly to re-program just for a tick box setting. No, this is not a case. Text Boundaries are still on by default, but instead of lines around printing area, they are simply small lines in each corner of a page. Turning Text Boundaries off will hide them. At least in 3.5-rc3, because I had no time to test final 3.5. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
2012/2/14 noibs noibs...@me.com: I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3. Thanks. I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible ”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
On 02/14/2012 10:34 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/2/14 noibsnoibs...@me.com: I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3. Thanks. I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible ”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean. Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck? -- How does being physically handicapped make me Differently-Abled? What different abilities do I have? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
On 14/02/2012 17:49, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/14/2012 10:34 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/2/14 noibsnoibs...@me.com: I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3. Thanks. I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible ”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean. Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck? Yep, I you can solve this with adding a background on the default template -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
On 14/02/12 17:49, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/14/2012 10:34 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/2/14 noibsnoibs...@me.com: I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3. Thanks. I think one of the new features in 3.5 is getting rid of the visible ”border” for the margins, if that's what you mean. feature? to eliminate a wanted behaviour is considered a feature?? then suppress the possibility to color the text, it will be another fantastic brand new feature Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck? me, it's me I like to see the margin borders... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/14/2012 2:07 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: feature? to eliminate a wanted behaviour is considered a feature?? then suppress the possibility to color the text, it will be another fantastic brand new feature Are people who like seeing the margin border out of luck? me, it's me I like to see the margin borders... I agree. I prefer to see the borders. It does make it easier to line up/size graphics, for one. - -- Steven Shelton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk86xawACgkQXUonIzCvpdPaLQCfRCpnJ2T7c8vABVmnoi2RxfOb bzUAnR6hojDWF0QKrZU3N5IHyFrxM8gj =It8K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
On Wednesday 15 February 2012 05:20, noibs wrote: I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3. I can only tell you where it was: Tools - Options... +OpenOffice.org - Appearance Text Boundaries (2nd from the top) Perhaps they just have it off by default? Seems silly to re-program just for a tick box setting. -- Michael -- Michael -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
