Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.

2013-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
LibreOffice is tightly integrated and attempting to install only 1 or 2 
components doesn't save you much disk-space.  They all use the main core.  Each 
module/component/'program'/'app' adds only a tiny bit extra on top.  

If all you want is a spreadsheet then Gnumeric is a standalone spreadsheet 
program and is sometimes faster or more sophisticated than Calc or Excel.  It 
might look rudimentary on the surface but only because all their work goes into 
the under-the-bonnet stuff
https://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/
https://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/downloads.shtml

For picture editing you might find a dedicated scalar-vector graphics program 
better
http://inkscape.org/
or a photo-editor that looks a bit like Photoshop
http://www.gimp.org/
for which the Windows down-loader is here
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/
Personally although i really like Gimp in Gnu&Linux i find it's Windows version 
a pain.  In Gnu&Linux when you want to save in a different format you just 
change the file-ending from .jpg or .gif or .png or whatever to the format you 
do want.  It then gives a pop-up listing lots of options but the defaults are 
fine so just "Ok" and job-done.  In the Windows version you can only save in 
xcf format and have to use 
File - Export - and then choose the format, and then deal with the same pop-up. 
 

So, if you are  doing graphic design then inkscape is probably one of the best. 
 If you are doing photo-editing on Windows then possibly Gimp.  If you are on 
Gnu&Linux, such as Ubuntu, SuSE or other then definitely Gimp.  

However there are lots of  different programs for drawing so it really depends 
on what you are doing.  Apparently if you are uploading your photos to picassa 
then they have a pretty neat drawing tool that you can use without even 
installing it on your machine (ie it's a Cloud-based app).  

Regards from 
Tom :)  








>
> From: Sandor Marton 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 8:37
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
> 
>
>To Whom it May Concern,
>
>I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version
>4.1.04.
>I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with
>language English (UK) only.
>Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation.
>After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid
>characters in the uninstall dialogue box.
>I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa
>?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong.
>If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be
>an option to install.
>
>I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit
>frustrating
>
>Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a
>while. 
>Good luck next time.
>
>Regards, 
>    Sandor Marton
>
>
>Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—-
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.

2013-08-03 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


3.6.7 is the end-of-line release for the 3.6.x line.  Stable but does 
not have all of the "good stuff" that was presented in the 4.0.x line.


4.0.4 is the current release of that line, with 4.0.5 was originally 
scheduled to come out this week, but has been rescheduled to the week of 
the 19th.


4.1.0 is out now, but 4.1.1 should be out by the end of the month.

As for which one that I would install on my Windows or Linux systems, 
well I have it installed.  4.0.4.


Unless there is something you must have that is in the 4.1.0 version and 
not in 4.0.4, then you might want to think about it real hard before you 
install 4.1.0, if you want to use it on a "business system" or have 100% 
uptime.  Sure 4.1.0 has the most cutting edge options, but if you are a 
"business user" I would stick with 4.0.4.




On 08/03/2013 05:29 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Err, just 1 correction.

It's the 4.0.4 that is the most recent stable version.  There is a 3.6.7 which 
is also stable but i would go for the 4.0.4 in almost all cases now.

The 4.1.0 is the first in the newer series and as such it brings in newer 
functionality and features.  Most people will find it plenty stable enough.  
Even the alpha-test and beta-test versions were plenty stable enough for most 
people that used them but many people will be avoiding the 4.1.x branch until 
it reaches at least 4.1.3.  Right now it's the best choice if you want 
cutting-edge or new features.


It's described on
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/

There is a little graphic on the "Release Plan" page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
although the colour-coding is possibly confusing.  It might do better to use 
red, amber, green = as traffic lights do.  Reducing it down to 3 colours might 
help anyway.  It used to be much larger on the page which made it much easier 
to understand at a glance.  I think it's been made too small now.  However the 
graphic was an inspired stroke of genius when it was first created.

Regards from
Tom :)









From: Andrew Brown 
To: Sandor Marton 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 22:01
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.


Hi Sandor

As a long time successful user of Star Office, OpenOffice, and now
settled on LibreOffice in Windows and Linux, I am saddened to hear your
bad luck with the installation. Version 4.1.0.4 is the stable version so
it should not (not for me anyway) give any language issues with it's
install.

Firstly make sure that you have downloaded the correct language base
file and it's assistant. Go to the download page here
http://www.libreoffice.org/download and then just below the green bars
"Main Installer" and "LibreOffice built-in help" click on the link "Not
the version you wanted? Change the language". On this next page go down
the list, left column until you see the one "English (GB)" and click on
it. A page will show with your two needed files and the correct language
you are looking for. Click in the green bars mentioned to download your
files.

What you can do is install it the same way you did, with just the apps
you want i.e. the Calc and Draw as per your previous install. To make
sure your language is the one you need open Calc, and go to the menu bar
"Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages". On the right you can
set the "User Interface" "Locale setting" to English UK, and your
"Default Currency" as well if you so choose, You would also need to
change you "Date acceptance patterns" as well for your language and
country pattern, Date month Year etc.

That should sort you out and give a better experience with LO. If you
need furhter help and assistance, please reply. I can send you
screenshots of what I am referring to as well, as I live in South
Africa, and have set mine to work perfectly with my country locale and
language settings.

Regards

Andrew Brown


On 03/08/2013 09:37 AM, Sandor Marton wrote:

To Whom it May Concern,
   
I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version

4.1.04.
I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with
language English (UK) only.
Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation.
After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid
characters in the uninstall dialogue box.
I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa
?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong.
If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be
an option to install.
   
I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit

frustrating
   
Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a

while.
Good luck next time.
   
Regards,

   Sandor M

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.

2013-08-03 Thread Andrew Brown
Apologies, late night Saturday here 11H40PM, the version is 4.0.4.2 that 
I use in Windows and Linux and the stable one, not 4.1.?.


Regards

Andrew Brown

On 03/08/2013 11:29 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Err, just 1 correction.

It's the 4.0.4 that is the most recent stable version.  There is a 
3.6.7 which is also stable but i would go for the 4.0.4 in almost all 
cases now.


The 4.1.0 is the first in the newer series and as such it brings in 
newer functionality and features.  Most people will find it plenty 
stable enough.  Even the alpha-test and beta-test versions were plenty 
stable enough for most people that used them but many people will be 
avoiding the 4.1.x branch until it reaches at least 4.1.3.  Right now 
it's the best choice if you want cutting-edge or new features.



It's described on
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/

There is a little graphic on the "Release Plan" page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
although the colour-coding is possibly confusing.  It might do better 
to use red, amber, green = as traffic lights do. Reducing it down to 3 
colours might help anyway.  It used to be much larger on the page 
which made it much easier to understand at a glance.  I think it's 
been made too small now.  However the graphic was an inspired stroke 
of genius when it was first created.


Regards from
Tom :)





*From:* Andrew Brown 
*To:* Sandor Marton 
*Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
*Sent:* Saturday, 3 August 2013, 22:01
    *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.

Hi Sandor

As a long time successful user of Star Office, OpenOffice, and now
settled on LibreOffice in Windows and Linux, I am saddened to hear
your
bad luck with the installation. Version 4.1.0.4 is the stable
version so
it should not (not for me anyway) give any language issues with it's
install.

Firstly make sure that you have downloaded the correct language base
file and it's assistant. Go to the download page here
http://www.libreoffice.org/download and then just below the green
bars
"Main Installer" and "LibreOffice built-in help" click on the link
"Not
the version you wanted? Change the language". On this next page go
down
the list, left column until you see the one "English (GB)" and
click on
it. A page will show with your two needed files and the correct
language
you are looking for. Click in the green bars mentioned to download
your
files.

What you can do is install it the same way you did, with just the
apps
you want i.e. the Calc and Draw as per your previous install. To make
sure your language is the one you need open Calc, and go to the
menu bar
"Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages". On the right
you can
set the "User Interface" "Locale setting" to English UK, and your
"Default Currency" as well if you so choose, You would also need to
change you "Date acceptance patterns" as well for your language and
country pattern, Date month Year etc.

That should sort you out and give a better experience with LO. If you
need furhter help and assistance, please reply. I can send you
screenshots of what I am referring to as well, as I live in South
Africa, and have set mine to work perfectly with my country locale
and
language settings.

Regards

Andrew Brown


On 03/08/2013 09:37 AM, Sandor Marton wrote:
> To Whom it May Concern,
>
> I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version
> 4.1.04.
> I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with
> language English (UK) only.
> Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation.
> After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid
> characters in the uninstall dialogue box.
> I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South
Africa
> ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong.
> If the language is essential for the application to run it
shouldn't be
> an option to install.
>
> I also find very hard to find this email address on your
website. I bit
> frustrating
>
> Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a
> while.
> Good luck next time.
>
> Regards,
>  Sandor Marton
>
>
>  Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—-
> IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are
> confidential and intended
> solely for the use of the individ

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.

2013-08-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Err, just 1 correction.  

It's the 4.0.4 that is the most recent stable version.  There is a 3.6.7 which 
is also stable but i would go for the 4.0.4 in almost all cases now.  

The 4.1.0 is the first in the newer series and as such it brings in newer 
functionality and features.  Most people will find it plenty stable enough.  
Even the alpha-test and beta-test versions were plenty stable enough for most 
people that used them but many people will be avoiding the 4.1.x branch until 
it reaches at least 4.1.3.  Right now it's the best choice if you want 
cutting-edge or new features.  


It's described on 
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/

There is a little graphic on the "Release Plan" page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
although the colour-coding is possibly confusing.  It might do better to use 
red, amber, green = as traffic lights do.  Reducing it down to 3 colours might 
help anyway.  It used to be much larger on the page which made it much easier 
to understand at a glance.  I think it's been made too small now.  However the 
graphic was an inspired stroke of genius when it was first created.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  







>
> From: Andrew Brown 
>To: Sandor Marton  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 22:01
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
> 
>
>Hi Sandor
>
>As a long time successful user of Star Office, OpenOffice, and now 
>settled on LibreOffice in Windows and Linux, I am saddened to hear your 
>bad luck with the installation. Version 4.1.0.4 is the stable version so 
>it should not (not for me anyway) give any language issues with it's 
>install.
>
>Firstly make sure that you have downloaded the correct language base 
>file and it's assistant. Go to the download page here 
>http://www.libreoffice.org/download and then just below the green bars 
>"Main Installer" and "LibreOffice built-in help" click on the link "Not 
>the version you wanted? Change the language". On this next page go down 
>the list, left column until you see the one "English (GB)" and click on 
>it. A page will show with your two needed files and the correct language 
>you are looking for. Click in the green bars mentioned to download your 
>files.
>
>What you can do is install it the same way you did, with just the apps 
>you want i.e. the Calc and Draw as per your previous install. To make 
>sure your language is the one you need open Calc, and go to the menu bar 
>"Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages". On the right you can 
>set the "User Interface" "Locale setting" to English UK, and your 
>"Default Currency" as well if you so choose, You would also need to 
>change you "Date acceptance patterns" as well for your language and 
>country pattern, Date month Year etc.
>
>That should sort you out and give a better experience with LO. If you 
>need furhter help and assistance, please reply. I can send you 
>screenshots of what I am referring to as well, as I live in South 
>Africa, and have set mine to work perfectly with my country locale and 
>language settings.
>
>Regards
>
>Andrew Brown
>
>
>On 03/08/2013 09:37 AM, Sandor Marton wrote:
>> To Whom it May Concern,
>>  
>> I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version
>> 4.1.04.
>> I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with
>> language English (UK) only.
>> Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation.
>> After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid
>> characters in the uninstall dialogue box.
>> I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa
>> ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong.
>> If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be
>> an option to install.
>>  
>> I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit
>> frustrating
>>  
>> Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a
>> while.
>> Good luck next time.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>      Sandor Marton
>>  
>>  
>>   Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—-
>> IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are
>> confidential and intended
>> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed.
>> If you have received this email in error please notify the originator
>> of the message.
>> Any views expressed in this message ar

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.

2013-08-03 Thread Andrew Brown

Hi Sandor

As a long time successful user of Star Office, OpenOffice, and now 
settled on LibreOffice in Windows and Linux, I am saddened to hear your 
bad luck with the installation. Version 4.1.0.4 is the stable version so 
it should not (not for me anyway) give any language issues with it's 
install.


Firstly make sure that you have downloaded the correct language base 
file and it's assistant. Go to the download page here 
http://www.libreoffice.org/download and then just below the green bars 
"Main Installer" and "LibreOffice built-in help" click on the link "Not 
the version you wanted? Change the language". On this next page go down 
the list, left column until you see the one "English (GB)" and click on 
it. A page will show with your two needed files and the correct language 
you are looking for. Click in the green bars mentioned to download your 
files.


What you can do is install it the same way you did, with just the apps 
you want i.e. the Calc and Draw as per your previous install. To make 
sure your language is the one you need open Calc, and go to the menu bar 
"Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages". On the right you can 
set the "User Interface" "Locale setting" to English UK, and your 
"Default Currency" as well if you so choose, You would also need to 
change you "Date acceptance patterns" as well for your language and 
country pattern, Date month Year etc.


That should sort you out and give a better experience with LO. If you 
need furhter help and assistance, please reply. I can send you 
screenshots of what I am referring to as well, as I live in South 
Africa, and have set mine to work perfectly with my country locale and 
language settings.


Regards

Andrew Brown


On 03/08/2013 09:37 AM, Sandor Marton wrote:

To Whom it May Concern,
  
I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version

4.1.04.
I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with
language English (UK) only.
Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation.
After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid
characters in the uninstall dialogue box.
I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa
?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong.
If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be
an option to install.
  
I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit

frustrating
  
Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a

while.
Good luck next time.
  
Regards,

 Sandor Marton
  
  
  Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—-

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.

2013-08-03 Thread Mas
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Sandor Marton <
sandor.mar...@sparc-systems.co.uk> wrote:

> To Whom it May Concern,
>
> I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version
> 4.1.04.
> I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with
> language English (UK) only.
> Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation.
> After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid
> characters in the uninstall dialogue box.
> I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa
> ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong.
> If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be
> an option to install.
>
> I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit
> frustrating
>
> Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a
> while.
> Good luck next time.
>
> Regards,
> Sandor Marton
>
>
>  Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—-
> IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are
> confidential and intended
> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
> addressed.
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> sa...@sparc-systems.co.uk
>
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.

2013-08-03 Thread Sandor Marton
To Whom it May Concern,
 
I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version
4.1.04.
I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with
language English (UK) only.
Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation.
After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid
characters in the uninstall dialogue box.
I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa
?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong.
If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be
an option to install.
 
I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit
frustrating
 
Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a
while. 
Good luck next time.
 
Regards, 
Sandor Marton
 
 
 Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—-
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