Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
Hi :) LibreOffice is tightly integrated and attempting to install only 1 or 2 components doesn't save you much disk-space. They all use the main core. Each module/component/'program'/'app' adds only a tiny bit extra on top. If all you want is a spreadsheet then Gnumeric is a standalone spreadsheet program and is sometimes faster or more sophisticated than Calc or Excel. It might look rudimentary on the surface but only because all their work goes into the under-the-bonnet stuff https://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/ https://projects.gnome.org/gnumeric/downloads.shtml For picture editing you might find a dedicated scalar-vector graphics program better http://inkscape.org/ or a photo-editor that looks a bit like Photoshop http://www.gimp.org/ for which the Windows down-loader is here http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/ Personally although i really like Gimp in Gnu&Linux i find it's Windows version a pain. In Gnu&Linux when you want to save in a different format you just change the file-ending from .jpg or .gif or .png or whatever to the format you do want. It then gives a pop-up listing lots of options but the defaults are fine so just "Ok" and job-done. In the Windows version you can only save in xcf format and have to use File - Export - and then choose the format, and then deal with the same pop-up. So, if you are doing graphic design then inkscape is probably one of the best. If you are doing photo-editing on Windows then possibly Gimp. If you are on Gnu&Linux, such as Ubuntu, SuSE or other then definitely Gimp. However there are lots of different programs for drawing so it really depends on what you are doing. Apparently if you are uploading your photos to picassa then they have a pretty neat drawing tool that you can use without even installing it on your machine (ie it's a Cloud-based app). Regards from Tom :) > > From: Sandor Marton >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 8:37 >Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue. > > >To Whom it May Concern, > >I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version >4.1.04. >I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with >language English (UK) only. >Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation. >After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid >characters in the uninstall dialogue box. >I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa >?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong. >If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be >an option to install. > >I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit >frustrating > >Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a >while. >Good luck next time. > >Regards, > Sandor Marton > > >Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—- >IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are >confidential and intended >solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >addressed. >If you have received this email in error please notify the originator >of the message. >Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >sender, >except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be >the views of >Sparc Systems Ltd.http://sparc-systems.co.uk http://checkweigh.co.uk >sa...@sparc-systems.co.uk > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
3.6.7 is the end-of-line release for the 3.6.x line. Stable but does not have all of the "good stuff" that was presented in the 4.0.x line. 4.0.4 is the current release of that line, with 4.0.5 was originally scheduled to come out this week, but has been rescheduled to the week of the 19th. 4.1.0 is out now, but 4.1.1 should be out by the end of the month. As for which one that I would install on my Windows or Linux systems, well I have it installed. 4.0.4. Unless there is something you must have that is in the 4.1.0 version and not in 4.0.4, then you might want to think about it real hard before you install 4.1.0, if you want to use it on a "business system" or have 100% uptime. Sure 4.1.0 has the most cutting edge options, but if you are a "business user" I would stick with 4.0.4. On 08/03/2013 05:29 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Err, just 1 correction. It's the 4.0.4 that is the most recent stable version. There is a 3.6.7 which is also stable but i would go for the 4.0.4 in almost all cases now. The 4.1.0 is the first in the newer series and as such it brings in newer functionality and features. Most people will find it plenty stable enough. Even the alpha-test and beta-test versions were plenty stable enough for most people that used them but many people will be avoiding the 4.1.x branch until it reaches at least 4.1.3. Right now it's the best choice if you want cutting-edge or new features. It's described on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/ There is a little graphic on the "Release Plan" page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan although the colour-coding is possibly confusing. It might do better to use red, amber, green = as traffic lights do. Reducing it down to 3 colours might help anyway. It used to be much larger on the page which made it much easier to understand at a glance. I think it's been made too small now. However the graphic was an inspired stroke of genius when it was first created. Regards from Tom :) From: Andrew Brown To: Sandor Marton Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 22:01 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue. Hi Sandor As a long time successful user of Star Office, OpenOffice, and now settled on LibreOffice in Windows and Linux, I am saddened to hear your bad luck with the installation. Version 4.1.0.4 is the stable version so it should not (not for me anyway) give any language issues with it's install. Firstly make sure that you have downloaded the correct language base file and it's assistant. Go to the download page here http://www.libreoffice.org/download and then just below the green bars "Main Installer" and "LibreOffice built-in help" click on the link "Not the version you wanted? Change the language". On this next page go down the list, left column until you see the one "English (GB)" and click on it. A page will show with your two needed files and the correct language you are looking for. Click in the green bars mentioned to download your files. What you can do is install it the same way you did, with just the apps you want i.e. the Calc and Draw as per your previous install. To make sure your language is the one you need open Calc, and go to the menu bar "Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages". On the right you can set the "User Interface" "Locale setting" to English UK, and your "Default Currency" as well if you so choose, You would also need to change you "Date acceptance patterns" as well for your language and country pattern, Date month Year etc. That should sort you out and give a better experience with LO. If you need furhter help and assistance, please reply. I can send you screenshots of what I am referring to as well, as I live in South Africa, and have set mine to work perfectly with my country locale and language settings. Regards Andrew Brown On 03/08/2013 09:37 AM, Sandor Marton wrote: To Whom it May Concern, I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version 4.1.04. I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with language English (UK) only. Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation. After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid characters in the uninstall dialogue box. I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong. If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be an option to install. I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit frustrating Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a while. Good luck next time. Regards, Sandor M
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
Apologies, late night Saturday here 11H40PM, the version is 4.0.4.2 that I use in Windows and Linux and the stable one, not 4.1.?. Regards Andrew Brown On 03/08/2013 11:29 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Err, just 1 correction. It's the 4.0.4 that is the most recent stable version. There is a 3.6.7 which is also stable but i would go for the 4.0.4 in almost all cases now. The 4.1.0 is the first in the newer series and as such it brings in newer functionality and features. Most people will find it plenty stable enough. Even the alpha-test and beta-test versions were plenty stable enough for most people that used them but many people will be avoiding the 4.1.x branch until it reaches at least 4.1.3. Right now it's the best choice if you want cutting-edge or new features. It's described on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/ There is a little graphic on the "Release Plan" page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan although the colour-coding is possibly confusing. It might do better to use red, amber, green = as traffic lights do. Reducing it down to 3 colours might help anyway. It used to be much larger on the page which made it much easier to understand at a glance. I think it's been made too small now. However the graphic was an inspired stroke of genius when it was first created. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Andrew Brown *To:* Sandor Marton *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Saturday, 3 August 2013, 22:01 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue. Hi Sandor As a long time successful user of Star Office, OpenOffice, and now settled on LibreOffice in Windows and Linux, I am saddened to hear your bad luck with the installation. Version 4.1.0.4 is the stable version so it should not (not for me anyway) give any language issues with it's install. Firstly make sure that you have downloaded the correct language base file and it's assistant. Go to the download page here http://www.libreoffice.org/download and then just below the green bars "Main Installer" and "LibreOffice built-in help" click on the link "Not the version you wanted? Change the language". On this next page go down the list, left column until you see the one "English (GB)" and click on it. A page will show with your two needed files and the correct language you are looking for. Click in the green bars mentioned to download your files. What you can do is install it the same way you did, with just the apps you want i.e. the Calc and Draw as per your previous install. To make sure your language is the one you need open Calc, and go to the menu bar "Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages". On the right you can set the "User Interface" "Locale setting" to English UK, and your "Default Currency" as well if you so choose, You would also need to change you "Date acceptance patterns" as well for your language and country pattern, Date month Year etc. That should sort you out and give a better experience with LO. If you need furhter help and assistance, please reply. I can send you screenshots of what I am referring to as well, as I live in South Africa, and have set mine to work perfectly with my country locale and language settings. Regards Andrew Brown On 03/08/2013 09:37 AM, Sandor Marton wrote: > To Whom it May Concern, > > I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version > 4.1.04. > I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with > language English (UK) only. > Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation. > After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid > characters in the uninstall dialogue box. > I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa > ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong. > If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be > an option to install. > > I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit > frustrating > > Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a > while. > Good luck next time. > > Regards, > Sandor Marton > > > Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—- > IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individ
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
Hi :) Err, just 1 correction. It's the 4.0.4 that is the most recent stable version. There is a 3.6.7 which is also stable but i would go for the 4.0.4 in almost all cases now. The 4.1.0 is the first in the newer series and as such it brings in newer functionality and features. Most people will find it plenty stable enough. Even the alpha-test and beta-test versions were plenty stable enough for most people that used them but many people will be avoiding the 4.1.x branch until it reaches at least 4.1.3. Right now it's the best choice if you want cutting-edge or new features. It's described on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/ There is a little graphic on the "Release Plan" page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan although the colour-coding is possibly confusing. It might do better to use red, amber, green = as traffic lights do. Reducing it down to 3 colours might help anyway. It used to be much larger on the page which made it much easier to understand at a glance. I think it's been made too small now. However the graphic was an inspired stroke of genius when it was first created. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Andrew Brown >To: Sandor Marton >Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 22:01 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue. > > >Hi Sandor > >As a long time successful user of Star Office, OpenOffice, and now >settled on LibreOffice in Windows and Linux, I am saddened to hear your >bad luck with the installation. Version 4.1.0.4 is the stable version so >it should not (not for me anyway) give any language issues with it's >install. > >Firstly make sure that you have downloaded the correct language base >file and it's assistant. Go to the download page here >http://www.libreoffice.org/download and then just below the green bars >"Main Installer" and "LibreOffice built-in help" click on the link "Not >the version you wanted? Change the language". On this next page go down >the list, left column until you see the one "English (GB)" and click on >it. A page will show with your two needed files and the correct language >you are looking for. Click in the green bars mentioned to download your >files. > >What you can do is install it the same way you did, with just the apps >you want i.e. the Calc and Draw as per your previous install. To make >sure your language is the one you need open Calc, and go to the menu bar >"Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages". On the right you can >set the "User Interface" "Locale setting" to English UK, and your >"Default Currency" as well if you so choose, You would also need to >change you "Date acceptance patterns" as well for your language and >country pattern, Date month Year etc. > >That should sort you out and give a better experience with LO. If you >need furhter help and assistance, please reply. I can send you >screenshots of what I am referring to as well, as I live in South >Africa, and have set mine to work perfectly with my country locale and >language settings. > >Regards > >Andrew Brown > > >On 03/08/2013 09:37 AM, Sandor Marton wrote: >> To Whom it May Concern, >> >> I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version >> 4.1.04. >> I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with >> language English (UK) only. >> Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation. >> After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid >> characters in the uninstall dialogue box. >> I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa >> ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong. >> If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be >> an option to install. >> >> I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit >> frustrating >> >> Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a >> while. >> Good luck next time. >> >> Regards, >> Sandor Marton >> >> >> Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—- >> IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are >> confidential and intended >> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. >> If you have received this email in error please notify the originator >> of the message. >> Any views expressed in this message ar
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
Hi Sandor As a long time successful user of Star Office, OpenOffice, and now settled on LibreOffice in Windows and Linux, I am saddened to hear your bad luck with the installation. Version 4.1.0.4 is the stable version so it should not (not for me anyway) give any language issues with it's install. Firstly make sure that you have downloaded the correct language base file and it's assistant. Go to the download page here http://www.libreoffice.org/download and then just below the green bars "Main Installer" and "LibreOffice built-in help" click on the link "Not the version you wanted? Change the language". On this next page go down the list, left column until you see the one "English (GB)" and click on it. A page will show with your two needed files and the correct language you are looking for. Click in the green bars mentioned to download your files. What you can do is install it the same way you did, with just the apps you want i.e. the Calc and Draw as per your previous install. To make sure your language is the one you need open Calc, and go to the menu bar "Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages". On the right you can set the "User Interface" "Locale setting" to English UK, and your "Default Currency" as well if you so choose, You would also need to change you "Date acceptance patterns" as well for your language and country pattern, Date month Year etc. That should sort you out and give a better experience with LO. If you need furhter help and assistance, please reply. I can send you screenshots of what I am referring to as well, as I live in South Africa, and have set mine to work perfectly with my country locale and language settings. Regards Andrew Brown On 03/08/2013 09:37 AM, Sandor Marton wrote: To Whom it May Concern, I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version 4.1.04. I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with language English (UK) only. Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation. After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid characters in the uninstall dialogue box. I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong. If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be an option to install. I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit frustrating Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a while. Good luck next time. Regards, Sandor Marton Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—- IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Sparc Systems Ltd.http://sparc-systems.co.uk http://checkweigh.co.uk sa...@sparc-systems.co.uk -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Sandor Marton < sandor.mar...@sparc-systems.co.uk> wrote: > To Whom it May Concern, > > I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version > 4.1.04. > I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with > language English (UK) only. > Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation. > After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid > characters in the uninstall dialogue box. > I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa > ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong. > If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be > an option to install. > > I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit > frustrating > > Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a > while. > Good luck next time. > > Regards, > Sandor Marton > > > Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—- > IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify the originator > of the message. > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender, > except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be > the views of > Sparc Systems Ltd.http://sparc-systems.co.uk http://checkweigh.co.uk > sa...@sparc-systems.co.uk > > > Would it be possible for you to provide the error message you received ? The Get help page has numerous ways to obtain assistance including the users mailing list .. http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ -- Mas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installation issue.
To Whom it May Concern, I've installed the latest version of Libre Office to my PC. Version 4.1.04. I selected only calc and draw programs to be installed, along with language English (UK) only. Doing that the program wouldn't run after successful installation. After the failure I uninstalled it and I could see only invalid characters in the uninstall dialogue box. I think unselecting the language English (US) or English (South Africa ?) was a mistake but I was able to do it and it is wrong. If the language is essential for the application to run it shouldn't be an option to install. I also find very hard to find this email address on your website. I bit frustrating Needless to say, the program is off the PC and not going back for a while. Good luck next time. Regards, Sandor Marton Sandor MartonSenior Software DeveloperSparc Systems Ltd.—- IMPORTANT NOTE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Sparc Systems Ltd.http://sparc-systems.co.uk http://checkweigh.co.uk sa...@sparc-systems.co.uk -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted