Re: [libreoffice-users] Limit on resizing windows in LO 6 (GTK)

2018-03-09 Thread Roy Reese 
> Enviar: miércoles 28 de febrero de 2018 a las 11:23
> De: "Roy Reese" <waterbeare...@gmx.com>
> Para: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Limit on resizing windows in LO 6 (GTK)
>
> > 
> Thanks to both Virgil and Dave. This suggests that I need to start with my 
> distro (Mageia) and DE (E21/22) first. I have seen no related bugs, which 
> suggests that this indeed may not be a LO problem.
> 
Thanks again to everyone on the list who responded to this issue. After filing 
this with Mageia, it turns out that the problem also appears in Fedora. There 
is now an active LO bug report as it seems to be related to the port to GTK+3:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116290

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Limit on resizing windows in LO 6 (GTK)

2018-02-28 Thread Roy Reese 
> Enviar: miércoles 28 de febrero de 2018 a las 1:02
> De: "Dave Howorth" 
> > 
> > For what it's worth, it's not a problem on my LO 5.1.6.2 on Linux
> > Mint 18 or LO 5.3.3.2 on Puppy Tahr Linux. On both systems, the menu
> > bar just collapses as I shrink the window.
> > 
> > Virgil
> 
> Not a problem with my 5.4.5.1 on openSUSE Leap 42.3 either. English
> interface with no extensions, if that matters, and I can make windows
> as narrow as I want (1 pixel if I choose). I use the LXDE desktop.
> 
> Dave
> 
> -- 
Thanks to both Virgil and Dave. This suggests that I need to start with my 
distro (Mageia) and DE (E21/22) first. I have seen no related bugs, which 
suggests that this indeed may not be a LO problem.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Limit on resizing windows in LO 6 (GTK)

2018-02-27 Thread Dave Howorth 
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:25:36 + Virgil Arrington wrote:
> On 02/27/2018 04:36 PM, Roy Reese wrote:
> > Thanks to all who have responded, but let me see if I can clarify
> > and add to what I havve learned.
> >
> > 1. The limiting factor is the menu bar (File, Edit, View . . .)
> > where there are no icons. What is worse, I have a Spanish interface
> > which makes some of the items (words only) longer. I have seen no
> > way to change the size of the font on the bar, nor is it possible
> > to hide the menu bar, although there is a work around to create a
> > macro to do so mentioned in LO and OO fora.
> >
> > 2. The Anaphraseus extension is added to the menu bar, not a tool
> > bar.
> >
> > 3.  The problem does affect LO 5.4.3.2 which I have on the computer
> > from which I am responding. It did not bother me there because I
> > have yet to add that extension there. However, minimum sizing IS
> > affected by the space required for the menu bar. (As a
> > parenthetical comment, when I work quikly, I can resize the window
> > smaller UNTIL the menu bar loads. I offer this in case someone
> > wants to test on an affected installation.)
> >
> > 4.  This is NOT a problem in the Windows version of 6.0. Sizing the
> > window smaller simply progressively hides the menu bar.
> >
> > 5.  Although LO has always been GTK based in Linux, I am not sure
> > if it now has a Qt interface to integrate better with KDE/Plasma
> > which may not be affected, hence my addition of GTK to the subject
> > line. (Input here welcome!)
> >
> > 6.  MOST IMPORTANT: Now that I understand better what is going on,
> > Tomorrow, I will recheck LO's Bugzilla for existing bugs and if
> > none is reported, will report this. I will also report the bug
> > number to this list, in this thread so that others can see and add
> > to it.
> >
> > Again, many thanks for the help on this matter.
> 
> For what it's worth, it's not a problem on my LO 5.1.6.2 on Linux
> Mint 18 or LO 5.3.3.2 on Puppy Tahr Linux. On both systems, the menu
> bar just collapses as I shrink the window.
> 
> Virgil

Not a problem with my 5.4.5.1 on openSUSE Leap 42.3 either. English
interface with no extensions, if that matters, and I can make windows
as narrow as I want (1 pixel if I choose). I use the LXDE desktop.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Limit on resizing windows in LO 6 (GTK)

2018-02-27 Thread Virgil Arrington 
On 02/27/2018 04:36 PM, Roy Reese wrote:
> Thanks to all who have responded, but let me see if I can clarify and add to 
> what I havve learned.
>
> 1. The limiting factor is the menu bar (File, Edit, View . . .) where there 
> are no icons. What is worse, I have a Spanish interface which makes some of 
> the items (words only) longer. I have seen no way to change the size of the 
> font on the bar, nor is it possible to hide the menu bar, although there is a 
> work around to create a macro to do so mentioned in LO and OO fora.
>
> 2. The Anaphraseus extension is added to the menu bar, not a tool bar.
>
> 3.  The problem does affect LO 5.4.3.2 which I have on the computer from 
> which I am responding. It did not bother me there because I have yet to add 
> that extension there. However, minimum sizing IS affected by the space 
> required for the menu bar. (As a parenthetical comment, when I work quikly, I 
> can resize the window smaller UNTIL the menu bar loads. I offer this in case 
> someone wants to test on an affected installation.)
>
> 4.  This is NOT a problem in the Windows version of 6.0. Sizing the window 
> smaller simply progressively hides the menu bar.
>
> 5.  Although LO has always been GTK based in Linux, I am not sure if it now 
> has a Qt interface to integrate better with KDE/Plasma which may not be 
> affected, hence my addition of GTK to the subject line. (Input here welcome!)
>
> 6.  MOST IMPORTANT: Now that I understand better what is going on, Tomorrow, 
> I will recheck LO's Bugzilla for existing bugs and if none is reported, will 
> report this. I will also report the bug number to this list, in this thread 
> so that others can see and add to it.
>
> Again, many thanks for the help on this matter.
>

For what it's worth, it's not a problem on my LO 5.1.6.2 on Linux Mint 
18 or LO 5.3.3.2 on Puppy Tahr Linux. On both systems, the menu bar just 
collapses as I shrink the window.

Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Limit on resizing windows in LO 6 (GTK)

2018-02-27 Thread Roy Reese 
Thanks to all who have responded, but let me see if I can clarify and add to 
what I havve learned.

1. The limiting factor is the menu bar (File, Edit, View . . .) where there are 
no icons. What is worse, I have a Spanish interface which makes some of the 
items (words only) longer. I have seen no way to change the size of the font on 
the bar, nor is it possible to hide the menu bar, although there is a work 
around to create a macro to do so mentioned in LO and OO fora.

2. The Anaphraseus extension is added to the menu bar, not a tool bar.

3.  The problem does affect LO 5.4.3.2 which I have on the computer from which 
I am responding. It did not bother me there because I have yet to add that 
extension there. However, minimum sizing IS affected by the space required for 
the menu bar. (As a parenthetical comment, when I work quikly, I can resize the 
window smaller UNTIL the menu bar loads. I offer this in case someone wants to 
test on an affected installation.)

4.  This is NOT a problem in the Windows version of 6.0. Sizing the window 
smaller simply progressively hides the menu bar.

5.  Although LO has always been GTK based in Linux, I am not sure if it now has 
a Qt interface to integrate better with KDE/Plasma which may not be affected, 
hence my addition of GTK to the subject line. (Input here welcome!)

6.  MOST IMPORTANT: Now that I understand better what is going on, Tomorrow, I 
will recheck LO's Bugzilla for existing bugs and if none is reported, will 
report this. I will also report the bug number to this list, in this thread so 
that others can see and add to it.

Again, many thanks for the help on this matter.

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