Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO 2013 article - MSO will read/write ODF1.2 and change formatting of .docx files again
Hi :) MSO 2007 and 2010 can save as Pdf or rather File - Export to Pdf but it's very limited compared to LO's. With LO's you can choose a range of options such as tagged (or not), 1a, compression rate or even uncompressed, type of compression (defaults to the standard jpg), set the dpi for images, blah, balh, blah and blah, and even to sneakily include the odf inside the pdf so that other LO users can edit it easily. With MSO you don't get any options and it just gets compressed using jpg messiness. Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 14/8/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO 2013 article - MSO will read/write ODF1.2 and change formatting of .docx files again To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 14 August, 2012, 21:55 On 08/14/2012 12:11 PM, James Knott wrote: webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: This article may be interesting to read by some of this lists users. It seems that MSO 2013 will read/write ODF 1.2 formats and their older OOXML formats will not be changed to Strict Open XML formats [so .docx will change format again]. Also Excel will be using OpenFormula, it claims. It will also be able to read/edit/save PDF files. Not writing ODF 1.1 is a good thing, given how badly it was implemented in MS Office. Also, I understand that Strict Open XML means getting rid of the proprietary stuff that made it difficult for other office suites to implement. Yes not saving to 1.1 will be good in the long run for people who wish to get businesses to use ODF instead of MSO's XML formats. Still, the move to make their XML formats use Strict Open XML will make MSO 2013 not readable with MSO 2007 and 2010 package, or as least I have read before. Hopefully it does remove the undocumented proprietary stuff from within their XML formats so it would be easier to create the needed filters to read/write MSO 2013's XML files. We still need to keep 2010 and 2007 XML file filters updated for those users. OpenFormula may make it easier to use Excel '13 files with Calc. Calc does support OpenFormula, right? Actually I did not know that MSO 2010 saved files as PDF, but the article states that 2007 and 2010 both do. Still I would keep a PDF print driver to be able to create PDFs from the non-office documents [neither MSO or LO documents]. CUPS-PDF for Linux [on Ubuntu for me] and the free doPDF software-printer for Windows [on XP and Vista for me] work fine for that. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] MSO 2013 article - MSO will read/write ODF1.2 and change formatting of .docx files again
This article may be interesting to read by some of this lists users. It seems that MSO 2013 will read/write ODF 1.2 formats and their older OOXML formats will not be changed to Strict Open XML formats [so .docx will change format again]. Also Excel will be using OpenFormula, it claims. It will also be able to read/edit/save PDF files. ODF support is great, same with OpenFormula. Yet, they seem to want to change the internal formatting stuff within .docx files. MSO 2010 was different than MSO 2007, and now MSO 2013 will be even more different that either of the older two. So it looks like someone will need to work on the MSO filters again. --- http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-office-gets-support-for-new-odf-and-open-xml-file-formats-702607/ [quote from article] Microsoft Office gets support for new ODF and Open XML file formats Summary: The upcoming version of Office will fully support Strict Open XML and Open Document Format (ODF) 1.2, while Word 2013 will also be able to open and edit PDF files David Meyer By David Meyer | August 14, 2012 -- 11:18 GMT (04:18 PDT) [unquote] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO 2013 article - MSO will read/write ODF1.2 and change formatting of .docx files again
webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: This article may be interesting to read by some of this lists users. It seems that MSO 2013 will read/write ODF 1.2 formats and their older OOXML formats will not be changed to Strict Open XML formats [so .docx will change format again]. Also Excel will be using OpenFormula, it claims. It will also be able to read/edit/save PDF files. Not writing ODF 1.1 is a good thing, given how badly it was implemented in MS Office. Also, I understand that Strict Open XML means getting rid of the proprietary stuff that made it difficult for other office suites to implement. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MSO 2013 article - MSO will read/write ODF1.2 and change formatting of .docx files again
On 08/14/2012 12:11 PM, James Knott wrote: webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: This article may be interesting to read by some of this lists users. It seems that MSO 2013 will read/write ODF 1.2 formats and their older OOXML formats will not be changed to Strict Open XML formats [so .docx will change format again]. Also Excel will be using OpenFormula, it claims. It will also be able to read/edit/save PDF files. Not writing ODF 1.1 is a good thing, given how badly it was implemented in MS Office. Also, I understand that Strict Open XML means getting rid of the proprietary stuff that made it difficult for other office suites to implement. Yes not saving to 1.1 will be good in the long run for people who wish to get businesses to use ODF instead of MSO's XML formats. Still, the move to make their XML formats use Strict Open XML will make MSO 2013 not readable with MSO 2007 and 2010 package, or as least I have read before. Hopefully it does remove the undocumented proprietary stuff from within their XML formats so it would be easier to create the needed filters to read/write MSO 2013's XML files. We still need to keep 2010 and 2007 XML file filters updated for those users. OpenFormula may make it easier to use Excel '13 files with Calc. Calc does support OpenFormula, right? Actually I did not know that MSO 2010 saved files as PDF, but the article states that 2007 and 2010 both do. Still I would keep a PDF print driver to be able to create PDFs from the non-office documents [neither MSO or LO documents]. CUPS-PDF for Linux [on Ubuntu for me] and the free doPDF software-printer for Windows [on XP and Vista for me] work fine for that. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
