Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
I have been testing LibreOffice Base 3.5 and MySQL on a Windows 7 64bit computer. I have found that the OpenOffice connector does work for me with LibreOffice but the discussion that it does not work for everyone and is likely to fail at some time in the future encouraged me to have another look at using the ODBC connector. I also found that I received a 'can't find driver' error but this is caused by 64bit/32bit issues. As I understand it, LibreOffice requires a 32bit ODBC driver and needs to be configured with the 32bit ODBC administrator. The default ODBC administrator on my computer is the 64bit. Anyway all these issues and the solutions are described in http://ltlbgr.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/mysql_odbc.odt at my blog site. cheers Mike On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote: A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector. After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it worked. But this facility is not available in Windows. OOo does have the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO. Been good to know you Tony -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] My story
A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector. After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it worked. But this facility is not available in Windows. OOo does have the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO. Been good to know you Tony -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
Hi :) It's good to hear about people experiences especially when kept neat and short but i doubt i told or instructed or tried to 'force' anyone to do anything. I might have suggested using newspapers or magazines to promote your project by inviting reporters to an event or to invite them to interview you about some aspect of your project. People generally think that to advertise their product they have to pay for advertisement space but the chances are that if you have a good news story then the press might be interested in writing a story about it. It's cheaper and more likely to be readremembered. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote: From: Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk Subject: [libreoffice-users] My story To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 9:09 A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector. After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it worked. But this facility is not available in Windows. OOo does have the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO. Been good to know you Tony -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
Hello Tony, Funny - I find exactly the opposite: the native MySQL-connector works perfectly well under Windows/Vista with me, but I cannot get it to work under either Debian-Wheezy or Linux/Mint-Lisa. Even though there is a lot of discouragement regarding the usage of JDBC under LO (them obviously wanting to diminish the dependency on Java!), I am actually using the JDBC-connector on my Linux systems. It seems somewhat less buggy than ODBC. In any case, I am trying out the native MySQL connector under Linux EVERY new version of LO - so far with no success. If I had the time to do so, I would compile the connector myself. I have been using Base under both OO and LO for years (after using Lotus/Approach before). What I REALLY want to do is build an application system for the administration of a wind band (musicians, literature, uniforms, concerts, supporting members and outside business contacts, etc., etc.) based on one of the available frameworks (eg. Symphony). So far I have built my homepage (www.rainermusik.at) using the PHP-Framework Seagull. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much going on within that framework anymore. Regards from Salzburg Heinrich On Wed, 09 May 2012 10:09:32 +0200, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote: A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector. After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it worked. But this facility is not available in Windows. OOo does have the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO. Been good to know you Tony -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
On 09/05/2012 10:09, Tony Sumner wrote: A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector. After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it worked. But this facility is not available in Windows. Sorry, wrong: the Native MySQL connector works fine for at least Windows XP OOo does have the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO. Been good to know you Tony -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
What could be the reason for this? One person can use the native MySQL connector to connect in Windows but can not in Linux. Another person use it to connect Linux but can not in Linux. Likely, the first person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. This connector is OS specific. Perhaps these two people should send each other the version they have. On the LO website, the native MySQL connector has been pulled for all OS's until more work is done on it. But the sad thing is that there is not enough people that can do the amount of work required for keeping this extension updated as newer versions of LO are developed. --Dan On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:47 +0200, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello Tony, Funny - I find exactly the opposite: the native MySQL-connector works perfectly well under Windows/Vista with me, but I cannot get it to work under either Debian-Wheezy or Linux/Mint-Lisa. Even though there is a lot of discouragement regarding the usage of JDBC under LO (them obviously wanting to diminish the dependency on Java!), I am actually using the JDBC-connector on my Linux systems. It seems somewhat less buggy than ODBC. In any case, I am trying out the native MySQL connector under Linux EVERY new version of LO - so far with no success. If I had the time to do so, I would compile the connector myself. I have been using Base under both OO and LO for years (after using Lotus/Approach before). What I REALLY want to do is build an application system for the administration of a wind band (musicians, literature, uniforms, concerts, supporting members and outside business contacts, etc., etc.) based on one of the available frameworks (eg. Symphony). So far I have built my homepage (www.rainermusik.at) using the PHP-Framework Seagull. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much going on within that framework anymore. Regards from Salzburg Heinrich On Wed, 09 May 2012 10:09:32 +0200, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote: A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector. After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it worked. But this facility is not available in Windows. OOo does have the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO. Been good to know you Tony -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
Hi :) Good point! Swapping the ones that do work and dropping the ones that don't sounds good. Ideally the Extensions site would have a table with LO version down the side and platform/OS along the top. There would be a few holes but at least people would know which need to be updated or which version of LO to stick with. I don't see the point in removing stuff that does work under the right conditions. From what i gather it 'only' needs someone using the relevant platform and relevant version of LO to compile the connector from source and the source is easily available. The problem is that only. I compiled something once but i didn't have a clue what i was doing and just followed instructions very closely. Luckily the instructions were good and it worked. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] My story To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 11:29 What could be the reason for this? One person can use the native MySQL connector to connect in Windows but can not in Linux. Another person use it to connect Linux but can not in Windows. Likely, the first person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. This connector is OS specific. Perhaps these two people should send each other the version they have. On the LO website, the native MySQL connector has been pulled for all OS's until more work is done on it. But the sad thing is that there is not enough people that can do the amount of work required for keeping this extension updated as newer versions of LO are developed. --Dan On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:47 +0200, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello Tony, Funny - I find exactly the opposite: the native MySQL-connector works perfectly well under Windows/Vista with me, but I cannot get it to work under either Debian-Wheezy or Linux/Mint-Lisa. Even though there is a lot of discouragement regarding the usage of JDBC under LO (them obviously wanting to diminish the dependency on Java!), I am actually using the JDBC-connector on my Linux systems. It seems somewhat less buggy than ODBC. In any case, I am trying out the native MySQL connector under Linux EVERY new version of LO - so far with no success. If I had the time to do so, I would compile the connector myself. I have been using Base under both OO and LO for years (after using Lotus/Approach before). What I REALLY want to do is build an application system for the administration of a wind band (musicians, literature, uniforms, concerts, supporting members and outside business contacts, etc., etc.) based on one of the available frameworks (eg. Symphony). So far I have built my homepage (www.rainermusik.at) using the PHP-Framework Seagull. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much going on within that framework anymore. Regards from Salzburg Heinrich On Wed, 09 May 2012 10:09:32 +0200, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote: A while back Tom asked people to tell their stories so this is mine. I started with a project to create an application using a DBMS to manage our local currency. This would be used by relatively basic users who would almost certainly want to use Windows. I already had a working knowledge of MySQL and I knew how to use that to do all the admin tasks but I needed a GUI to do data entry and report writing. So I started by trying to connect LO to MySQL with the ODBC connector. After a lot of reading I installed the MyODBC connector, created a driver and a DSN amd LO said Can't find driver or something like that. I thought I'd try it in Linux to get the hang of it before settling down to work in Windows and this gave me Can't find library or something like that. Then I found that LO will connect to MySQL directly without the need for a connector so I tried that and it worked. But this facility is not available in Windows. OOo does have the facility to connect directly to MySQL in Windows so at last I can get on with the project. OOo does what I want and OOo Base is pretty much like LO Base so I'm afraid it is goodbye LO. Been good to know you Tony -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
On May 09, 2012, Dan Lewis wrote: Likely, the first person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. Oh, come on. It is obvious which version is which and I had the Windows one. The instructions for creating the driver are very simple and clear and I followed them. When it said driver not found it meant diving into the depts of Windows which I am reluctant to do. Fernand says that the native driver does work for Windows XP. So I must have looked at some out of date documentation that said otherwise. In that connection, Heinrich, I am sure I saw something to the effect that if you are using Linux you should use JDBC and not ODBC. Can't find it now though. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions as to what I can do now to get it working but I don't need to do anything do I, just learn how to get the best out of OOo Base. Like importing data from a CSV file which is much more complicated than it need be. Tony -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
I have to put my hand up to the breakdown here too. I was (am) hoping to build this connector but pressure of other work has got in the way for the moment. I'll be back... Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
Hi Tony, I have just installed LO 3.5.3 and the native connector worked immediately out of the box on Windows/Vista. Regarding ODBC: yes, my experience tells me -- don't use it under Linux. There are bugs such as not SHOWING default values for columns (even though they are actually stored correctly). Reluctantly I am now using JDBC, but it at least seems to work correctly (even if it is a bit slow!). One thing that has also bothered me with Linux/LO/Base: every couple of minutes performance becomes dreadful. The systems monitor shows high CPU-usage of my 4-CPU, 2.4 GH PC then. Only when I then save the Base-file (*.odb) does everything return to normal. I have set the automatic save interval to 60 minutes, but it seems to me that some action triggers the degradation. I haven't got to the bottom of that as yet. Regards, H On Wed, 09 May 2012 15:12:51 +0200, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote: On May 09, 2012, Dan Lewis wrote: Likely, the first person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. Oh, come on. It is obvious which version is which and I had the Windows one. The instructions for creating the driver are very simple and clear and I followed them. When it said driver not found it meant diving into the depts of Windows which I am reluctant to do. Fernand says that the native driver does work for Windows XP. So I must have looked at some out of date documentation that said otherwise. In that connection, Heinrich, I am sure I saw something to the effect that if you are using Linux you should use JDBC and not ODBC. Can't find it now though. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions as to what I can do now to get it working but I don't need to do anything do I, just learn how to get the best out of OOo Base. Like importing data from a CSV file which is much more complicated than it need be. Tony -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
Hi :) If OOo works then sticking with it makes a lot of sense. We are not really competing with them except in a reasonably friendly way. There was a time when Oracle tried competing with us but that was just before they gave up and handed it off to a community organisation. Now it's co-operative competition. Some people still work in both projects. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk wrote: From: Tony Sumner t...@whittycat.me.uk Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] My story To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 14:12 On May 09, 2012, Dan Lewis wrote: Likely, the first person has the version that should be used in a Windows OS, and the second person has the version that should be used in a Linux OS. Oh, come on. It is obvious which version is which and I had the Windows one. The instructions for creating the driver are very simple and clear and I followed them. When it said driver not found it meant diving into the depts of Windows which I am reluctant to do. Fernand says that the native driver does work for Windows XP. So I must have looked at some out of date documentation that said otherwise. In that connection, Heinrich, I am sure I saw something to the effect that if you are using Linux you should use JDBC and not ODBC. Can't find it now though. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions as to what I can do now to get it working but I don't need to do anything do I, just learn how to get the best out of OOo Base. Like importing data from a CSV file which is much more complicated than it need be. Tony -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] My story
Hi :) If it's going to take hours to build it and if it's likely to need to be re-done often then i think it would be better to focus your efforts elsewhere, like making the instructions easier to understand? They probably are good already with nice coding brackets so people can just copypaste command-line stuff without ever understanding what they are doing. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk wrote: From: Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] My story To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012, 15:17 I have to put my hand up to the breakdown here too. I was (am) hoping to build this connector but pressure of other work has got in the way for the moment. I'll be back... Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
