Re: [libreoffice-users] RE : Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,
Jean-Louis Oneto wrote: When Microsoft bought DRI Microsoft didn't buy DRI. They bought Q-DOS from Seattle Computer Products. Gary Kildall, creator of CP/M later took MS to court and proved that MS-DOS contained directly copied CP/M code. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] RE : Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,
Jim Seymour wrote: Nor was CP/M-86 vapourware. It was short-lived, because Kildall was way too late to the game, but it did exist. IIRC, the DEC Rainbow dual-booted CP/M-86 and DOS? CP/M-86 was also one of the 3 operating systems that were initially available with the IBM PC. The third was called (IIRC) pCode or something like that. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] RE : Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,
The first floppies where 8, single sided, single density and were lade for punch card substitute: the 80kB capacity was then equivalent to a rack of 1000 80 columns punched cards. That was in the early 1970's. Before that, there was 14 amovible HDD, with a capacity of 2.5 MB, made by several manufacturer, IBM, CDC... The DRI CP/M80 then CP/M86 were nothing but vaporware, only the MP/M86 (multitasking variant of CP/M86) never had a real existence. When Microsoft bought DRI, they were only able to add some bugs to a perfectly healthy OS. Sadly, they were a lot better in marketing, and they took over the market. You know the rest of the story :-( Best regards, Jean-Louis Oneto Envoyé depuis un mobile Samsung Message d'origine De : Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com Date :05/04/2014 21:05 (GMT+01:00) A : users@global.libreoffice.org Objet : Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code, On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 13:57:48 -0400 James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 04/04/2014 05:56 PM, CVAlkan wrote: Not sure if my recollections are correct, but I don't believe either DOS (before 2.x) or the DOS version of Word were written by Microsoft. I seem to recall that both were purchased and re-branded. DOS was bought from Seattle Computer Products and it was originally intended to be a hardware test system, while waiting for CP/M-86, rather than a proper OS. Do not remember 8 inch ones. I remember 10 inch, and then the 5.x inch ones. [single sided and then double sided] The first floppies, as invented by IBM, were 8. There never were 10 floppies. 8, 5-1/4, then 3-1/2. The first Winchester drives were 10, IIRC. DOS *was* originally designed and written by SCP, but I do not recall it being a test system. Digital Research was essentially ignoring the new Intel processors, and the people that formed SCP finally got tired of waiting for something that showed no signs of ever happening, and created what became DOS. That was half of a double-screw up by Gary Kildall, who formed and led DRI. The 2nd screw-up (this story is apocryphal) was him leaving visitors from IBM to meet with his wife, rather than him. IBM decided DRI was not serious, stopped in to see Gates, Gates bought DOS, and the rest is history. So is DRI. I still have a well-thumbed and somewhat yellowed CP/M 1.4 User's Manual on my bookshelf :) Says Distributed by Lifeboat Associates on it. Anybody remember them? Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] RE : Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Revisits the '80s With MS-DOS, Word for Windows Source Code,
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:04:42 +0200 Jean-Louis Oneto jl.on...@free.fr wrote: The DRI CP/M80 then CP/M86 were nothing but vaporware, I think you must have CP/M and CP/M-86 conflated with something else. CP/M-80 was anything *but* vapourware. In the mid-70's to early 80's, 8080- and Z-80 systems ran on nothing *but* CP/M. Oh, there were a few other also-rans, but they didn't amount to much. Micropolis, for example, had its own OS (MDOS), for example. I ran both CP/M-80 1.4, CP/M 2.2 and CP/M Plus (aka: CP/M 3) operating systems, and, in fact, wrote quite a good deal of code for CP/M-80 systems, including contributing to the original XMODEM and MINICBBS projects. I ran one of the first, if not *the* first, 24x7 RCP/M systems in the state of Michigan. Nor was CP/M-86 vapourware. It was short-lived, because Kildall was way too late to the game, but it did exist. IIRC, the DEC Rainbow dual-booted CP/M-86 and DOS? only the MP/M86 (multitasking variant of CP/M86) never had a real existence. I think I ever only saw a single MP/M system in the wild. When Microsoft bought DRI, [snip] Microsoft never bought Digital Research International. (Looking...) It was acquired by Novell in 1981. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted