Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis

2013-01-26 Thread bill

On 1/25/2013 4:34 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
...
 Hi Regina, Indeed, the ASF holds now the OpenOffice.org 
trademark in the US. The issue is about the OpenOffice 
trademark (without the .org part), which for the US it is 
reserved by someone else, 
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=4002:4o6qwv.2.1 
If there is such a trademark search website for Europe, then you 
will find that the OpenOffice trademark is also taken in Europe 
by someone else, and also in Brazil (that's why the Brazilian 
team selected BrOffice). That's why we do not use OpenOffice 
by itself. Simos


My trademark search says that open office and openoffice  both 
have dead trademark applications and thus are available to be 
trademarked.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis

2013-01-25 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:
 Hi Simos,
 yes, you are right!
 But, OpenOffice.org is past.
 The projects name now is Apache OpenOffice.

 With the abbreviation OpenOffice I refer to the former OpenOffice.org and
 to Apache OpenOffice.
 I hope you will accept this abbreviation.


If you are doing academic work, you should use the proper names.
The reason that 'OpenOffice' was not selected ten years ago was
because some other company in Europe had already registered the name
'OpenOffice'.

Simos


 Am 2013-01-25 15:52, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:

 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:

 Hi all,
 my name is Veit.
 I had studied Free Software at Free Technology Academy (ftacademy.org)
 and
 Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC.edu).
 Now, after I had finished all my courses, I will write my Master Thesis.
 This will be a case study about the office suites OpenOffice and
 LibreOffice.


 There used to be a project 'OpenOffice.org' which is now defunct.
 Out of that project, we now have 'LibreOffice' and 'Apache
 OpenOffice', and possibly others.

 Sadly, www.openoffice.org does not reflect this situation.
 Sorry for hijacking.

 Simos

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis

2013-01-25 Thread vdvogt

Hi Simos,

Am 2013-01-25 16:07, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:

Hi Simos,
yes, you are right!
But, OpenOffice.org is past.
The projects name now is Apache OpenOffice.

With the abbreviation OpenOffice I refer to the former 
OpenOffice.org and

to Apache OpenOffice.
I hope you will accept this abbreviation.



If you are doing academic work, you should use the proper names.
The reason that 'OpenOffice' was not selected ten years ago was
because some other company in Europe had already registered the name
'OpenOffice'.


Not entirely correct.
It was an american enterprise that has grabed the rights for this name.
OpenOffice.org is now in the hands of Oracle and that will not spit it 
out. ;-(


regards
Veit






Simos



Am 2013-01-25 15:52, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:


Hi all,
my name is Veit.
I had studied Free Software at Free Technology Academy 
(ftacademy.org)

and
Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC.edu).
Now, after I had finished all my courses, I will write my Master 
Thesis.

This will be a case study about the office suites OpenOffice and
LibreOffice.



There used to be a project 'OpenOffice.org' which is now defunct.
Out of that project, we now have 'LibreOffice' and 'Apache
OpenOffice', and possibly others.

Sadly, www.openoffice.org does not reflect this situation.
Sorry for hijacking.

Simos


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis

2013-01-25 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:
 Hi Simos,

 Am 2013-01-25 16:07, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:

 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:

 Hi Simos,
 yes, you are right!
 But, OpenOffice.org is past.
 The projects name now is Apache OpenOffice.

 With the abbreviation OpenOffice I refer to the former OpenOffice.org
 and
 to Apache OpenOffice.
 I hope you will accept this abbreviation.


 If you are doing academic work, you should use the proper names.
 The reason that 'OpenOffice' was not selected ten years ago was
 because some other company in Europe had already registered the name
 'OpenOffice'.


 Not entirely correct.
 It was an american enterprise that has grabed the rights for this name.
 OpenOffice.org is now in the hands of Oracle and that will not spit it out.
 ;-(


The trademark for OpenOffice belongs to some other company, not
related to any of these. Whoever has the trademark for OpenOffice,
had that trademark well before the year 2000 (when OpenOffice.org
was trademarked).
The trademark to OpenOffice.org is probably with Oracle, but it is
not in use as it refers to the old defunct project.

If you use OpenOffice for these office suites, then you are using an
informal term.
Most likely it will not look good in your Master thesis to have an
informal term. But then that is up to you and your school.

Simos

 regards
 Veit






 Simos


 Am 2013-01-25 15:52, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:

 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:


 Hi all,
 my name is Veit.
 I had studied Free Software at Free Technology Academy (ftacademy.org)
 and
 Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC.edu).
 Now, after I had finished all my courses, I will write my Master
 Thesis.
 This will be a case study about the office suites OpenOffice and
 LibreOffice.



 There used to be a project 'OpenOffice.org' which is now defunct.
 Out of that project, we now have 'LibreOffice' and 'Apache
 OpenOffice', and possibly others.

 Sadly, www.openoffice.org does not reflect this situation.
 Sorry for hijacking.

 Simos

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis

2013-01-25 Thread vdvogt

Hi Simos,

Am 2013-01-25 16:34, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:

Hi Simos,

Am 2013-01-25 16:07, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:


Hi Simos,
yes, you are right!
But, OpenOffice.org is past.
The projects name now is Apache OpenOffice.

With the abbreviation OpenOffice I refer to the former 
OpenOffice.org

and
to Apache OpenOffice.
I hope you will accept this abbreviation.



If you are doing academic work, you should use the proper names.
The reason that 'OpenOffice' was not selected ten years ago was
because some other company in Europe had already registered the 
name

'OpenOffice'.



Not entirely correct.
It was an american enterprise that has grabed the rights for this 
name.
OpenOffice.org is now in the hands of Oracle and that will not spit 
it out.

;-(



The trademark for OpenOffice belongs to some other company, not
related to any of these. Whoever has the trademark for OpenOffice,
had that trademark well before the year 2000 (when OpenOffice.org
was trademarked).
The trademark to OpenOffice.org is probably with Oracle, but it is
not in use as it refers to the old defunct project.

If you use OpenOffice for these office suites, then you are using 
an

informal term.
Most likely it will not look good in your Master thesis to have an
informal term. But then that is up to you and your school.


Of course I will not use this informal name in my Master Thesis.
I just had used it for abbreviation.
But if this will cause so much trouble I will use the correct terms in 
future.

regards
Veit




Simos


regards
Veit







Simos



Am 2013-01-25 15:52, schrieb Simos Xenitellis:


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM,  vdv...@drvdvogt.de wrote:



Hi all,
my name is Veit.
I had studied Free Software at Free Technology Academy 
(ftacademy.org)

and
Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC.edu).
Now, after I had finished all my courses, I will write my Master
Thesis.
This will be a case study about the office suites OpenOffice and
LibreOffice.




There used to be a project 'OpenOffice.org' which is now defunct.
Out of that project, we now have 'LibreOffice' and 'Apache
OpenOffice', and possibly others.

Sadly, www.openoffice.org does not reflect this situation.
Sorry for hijacking.

Simos


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis

2013-01-25 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Simons,

Simos Xenitellis schrieb:
[..]

The trademark for OpenOffice belongs to some other company, not
related to any of these. Whoever has the trademark for OpenOffice,
had that trademark well before the year 2000 (when OpenOffice.org
was trademarked).
The trademark to OpenOffice.org is probably with Oracle, but it is
not in use as it refers to the old defunct project.


Search in Trademark Electronic Search System (US):
The current owner of the word and picture trademark OpenOffice.org is 
The Apache Software Foundation.

The current owner of the trademark StarOffice is still Oracle.

The trademark OpenOffice.org is still in use. You can download the 
software in the versions 3.2.1 and 3.3 from 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/. You 
can download older versions from the archive at 
http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/stable/


Kind regards
Regina





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