[libreoffice-users] Re: AutoFilter Change

2012-03-18 Thread Andreas Säger

Tom wrote
 
 Hi :)
 I don't think LO's Calc is aiming to look exactly like Excel but it does
 aim to remain fairly similar so that people find it easy to migrate to
 LO.  I think it's a lot more configurable than Excel especially with the
 Add-ons/Extensions.  
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 

You may never used Excel. So you don't know about the thousands of Excel
add-ons made by professional programmers. That's OK. 
But sometimes _I think_  you don't use LibreOffice neither.
LibreOffice added some dysfunctional bullshit that makes Calc look like MS
Excel. 
The marching ants border around a copied cell selection together with the
related behaviour of the Enter key is the most prominent example why I
prefer OOo Calc over LibO Calc. The switched meaning of Backspace and Delete
is the second example, third example is cell back colour that superimpose
some visual aid (view grid) but not the other visual aid (snap points). 

--
View this message in context: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AutoFilter-Change-tp3832199p3836745.html
Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: AutoFilter Change

2012-03-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I don't think LO's Calc is aiming to look exactly like Excel but it does aim to 
remain fairly similar so that people find it easy to migrate to LO.  I think 
it's a lot more configurable than Excel especially with the 
Add-ons/Extensions.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 16/3/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: AutoFilter Change
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 16 March, 2012, 17:31

Am 16.03.2012 17:56, Shari wrote:

 Again, I don't think an OR is necessary for quickly filtering, that's an
 /advance/ filter imho. I wasn't aware that the project strove to look
 like Excel. I thought it was to provide an alternative that was free
 and open source. I've used either OpenOffice or Libre for over 10 years,
 pushed it into work locations, and many homes. If that is what is
 happening with this product, I'll be moving on.

 peace,


Your requirements are not anybody elses requirements.
I answered your question about the why? to the best of my knowledge.
I can imagine that ORed auto-filters are useful to many who use Calc as 
poor man's database (the majority of today's spreadsheet users).


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted


-- 
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



[libreoffice-users] Re: AutoFilter Change

2012-03-16 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 16.03.2012 17:23, Shari wrote:



I guess I'm just not sure what it adds to change this simple filter. It
worked and did what it was intended to do. Yes, if there isn't going to
be an additional filter type, then then at least what your suggesting
would make it usable. I guess I'm from the school of if it isn't broken
why fix it.

The additional functionality is that filter condition can be ORed now 
(Show food OR clothing OR shoes).
The fix is that is looks like MS Excel now, which in this project is a 
value in its own right even when it does not work as in Excel.



--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: AutoFilter Change

2012-03-16 Thread Shari


The additional functionality is that filter condition can be ORed now 
(Show food OR clothing OR shoes).
The fix is that is looks like MS Excel now, which in this project is a 
value in its own right even when it does not work as in Excel.


Again, I don't think an OR is necessary for quickly filtering, that's an 
/advance/ filter imho. I wasn't aware that the project strove to look 
like Excel. I thought it was to provide an alternative that was free 
and open source. I've used either OpenOffice or Libre for over 10 years, 
pushed it into work locations, and many homes. If that is what is 
happening with this product, I'll be moving on.


peace,

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted



Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: AutoFilter Change

2012-03-16 Thread Shari

On 3/16/2012 12:31 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:


Your requirements are not anybody elses requirements.

Agreed, however I'm sure there are others who also use the functionality.

I answered your question about the why? to the best of my knowledge.
Which I appreciated. I just wasn't aware of the direction of the project 
to look like excel, and shared my opinion. I realize it seemed to be 
directed at you, and I didn't intend it in that manner and apologize. 
It's just sad for me to see this happening, as I have no need for a look 
alike, or work alike for that matter. I loved that the program allowed 
me to work quickly and efficiently, and to do my job simply.
I can imagine that ORed auto-filters are useful to many who use Calc 
as poor man's database (the majority of today's spreadsheet users).
I'm not saying it isn't useful, I'm saying it shouldn't have replace 
what worked simply and well. Adding an /Advanced /AutoFilter is a great 
idea for those who want that functionality. I just don't understand why 
current functionality has to be lost to add something.


A database for my use is overkill. Again, I like to do things in their 
fastest simplest form to get the job done. I need simple line items of 
data. Nothing complex or relational, yes for anything like that a 
database is the perfect vehicle. The last time I built a full database 
was in dbase in dos ;-) most of my database needs are provided by sites 
online.


peace,

--
For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/
All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted