Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
At 17:14 25/05/2012 +0200, MiguelAngel wrote: Maybe the mistake is in search for 0.000, it can't be found, because a 0.000 is always saved as 0, nonsignificant zeroes to the right/left of decimal point are never saved. Computers store numbers in a fixed-length format - however-many bytes. So there are always the same number of binary digits stored - which equates to a different but similarly (approximately) fixed number of decimal digits stored (unless you choose multiple precision, of course). So surely what you may think of as nonsignificant zeroes are not never but *always* stored? Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
El 26/05/12 12:41, Brian Barker escribió: At 17:14 25/05/2012 +0200, MiguelAngel wrote: Maybe the mistake is in search for 0.000, it can't be found, because a 0.000 is always saved as 0, nonsignificant zeroes to the right/left of decimal point are never saved. Computers store numbers in a fixed-length format - however-many bytes. So there are always the same number of binary digits stored - which equates to a different but similarly (approximately) fixed number of decimal digits stored (unless you choose multiple precision, of course). So surely what you may think of as nonsignificant zeroes are not never but *always* stored? Brian Barker I think not a fixed format, but a fixed length with eight bytes used to store the number in memory, as result fourteen significant numbers. In any case the user can't find 0. or 000.00, we can search for 0. In content.xml file one of the files in .ods file, we can see the saved values in office:value tag and the representation of the value in text:p tag. - table:table table:name=Sheet1 table:style-name=ta1 table:table-column table:style-name=co2 table:default-cell-style-name=Default / - table:table-row table:style-name=ro2 - table:table-cell table:style-name=ce1 office:value-type=float office:value=0 text:p000,000/text:p /table:table-cell /table:table-row - table:table-row table:style-name=ro2 - table:table-cell office:value-type=float office:value=12345 text:p12345/text:p /table:table-cell /table:table-row - table:table-row table:style-name=ro2 - table:table-cell office:value-type=float office:value=0.12345 text:p0,12/text:p /table:table-cell /table:table-row - table:table-row table:style-name=ro2 - table:table-cell office:value-type=float office:value=123.123 text:p123,12/text:p /table:table-cell /table:table-row - table:table-row table:style-name=ro2 - table:table-cell table:style-name=ce2 office:value-type=float office:value=1.23456578901234E+015 text:p1,23E+015/text:p /table:table-cell /table:table-row - table:table-row table:style-name=ro2 - table:table-cell table:style-name=ce3 office:value-type=float office:value=1.23456578901234E+015 text:p1234565789012340/text:p /table:table-cell /table:table-row /table:table Miguel Ángel. * Inglés - detectado * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano javascript:void(0); -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
At 15:43 26/05/2012 +0200, Miguel Angel wrote: El 26/05/12 12:41, Brian Barker escribió: At 17:14 25/05/2012 +0200, Miguel Angel wrote: Maybe the mistake is in search for 0.000, it can't be found, because a 0.000 is always saved as 0, nonsignificant zeroes to the right/left of decimal point are never saved. Computers store numbers in a fixed-length format - however-many bytes. So there are always the same number of binary digits stored - which equates to a different but similarly (approximately) fixed number of decimal digits stored (unless you choose multiple precision, of course). So surely what you may think of as nonsignificant zeroes are not never but *always* stored? I think not a fixed format, but a fixed length with eight bytes used to store the number in memory, as result fourteen significant numbers. There has to be a format in which the numbers are stored, of course (however many bytes are used): fourteen significant decimal digits maps to about 47 binary digits - just under six bytes. The rest of the space is used for an exponent and for signs for both the exponent and the number itself. There are many possible formats, but there has to be a fixed one in each computer or system. In content.xml file one of the files in .ods file, we can see the saved values in office:value tag and the representation of the value in text:p tag. Thanks for this. I confess I was thinking (as you were above) of storage in the sense of representation in the program itself - during processing. You are right, of course, that storage in document files is in decimal, not binary, and apparently omits insignificant trailing zeroes. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
Say X99 displays 0.005. Turn on menu:ViewHighlight Values [Ctrl+F8]. What is the font color of X99? A blue color proves that X99 is a number. Text appears black. Get some unused cell and enter =X99=0.005 What is the result? Should be either TRUE or FALSE. If FALSE, what is the result of =X99-0.005 ? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
On Fri, 25 May 2012, Andreas Säger wrote: Turn on menu:ViewHighlight Values [Ctrl+F8]. What is the font color of X99? A blue color proves that X99 is a number. Text appears black. Other than column A (site names), every other cell is blue. I'm going to write an awk script that will change the zeros to the appropriate reporting limit. That'll be quicker than my trying to understand what's happening in Calc. Thanks, Andreas, Rich -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
On 25/05/2012 at 15:14, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: I'm going to write an awk script that will change the zeros to the appropriate reporting limit. That'll be quicker than my trying to understand what's happening in Calc. It may be. Can you post your document somewhere on the web? I think that there are users who are just curious what's so special about your data that neither of tips have worked for you. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Can you post your document somewhere on the web? I think that there are users who are just curious what's so special about your data that neither of tips have worked for you. Mirosław, It's client data so I cannot distribute it. Rich -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
On 25/05/2012 at 16:31, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: It's client data so I cannot distribute it. I was afraid that's the case. Sorry we could not solve your problem, then. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Sorry we could not solve your problem, then. That's OK. awk, sed, grep, cut, and sort do the job very quickly. :-) Thanks to all for the suggesions, Rich -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
El 25/05/12 16:52, Rich Shepard escribió: On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Sorry we could not solve your problem, then. That's OK. awk, sed, grep, cut, and sort do the job very quickly. :-) Thanks to all for the suggesions, Rich Maybe the mistake is in search for 0.000, it can't be found, because a 0.000 is always saved as 0, nonsignificant zeroes to the right/left of decimal point are never saved. Miguel Ángel * Inglés - detectado * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano javascript:void(0); -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
Hi :) Sometimes it's possible to replace all the confidential info in a file with random jumbles but in this case i think it would be 1. difficult to do 2. almost impossible to work out how to help I think you solved this a gnulinux way already anyway so it's all good now :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 25/5/12, Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: From: Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 25 May, 2012, 15:18 On 25/05/2012 at 15:14, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: I'm going to write an awk script that will change the zeros to the appropriate reporting limit. That'll be quicker than my trying to understand what's happening in Calc. It may be. Can you post your document somewhere on the web? I think that there are users who are just curious what's so special about your data that neither of tips have worked for you. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
Am 25.05.2012 16:31, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Can you post your document somewhere on the web? I think that there are users who are just curious what's so special about your data that neither of tips have worked for you. Mirosław, It's client data so I cannot distribute it. Rich Simply clear all text data so the remaining figures become meaningless. I can not understand what is going on in your spreadsheet. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Search Replace Within A Column
Am 25.05.2012 15:14, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 25 May 2012, Andreas Säger wrote: Turn on menu:ViewHighlight Values [Ctrl+F8]. What is the font color of X99? A blue color proves that X99 is a number. Text appears black. Other than column A (site names), every other cell is blue. I'm going to write an awk script that will change the zeros to the appropriate reporting limit. That'll be quicker than my trying to understand what's happening in Calc. Thanks, Andreas, Rich So you don't have any spreadsheet document. You are talking about a plain text file. Right? Loading plain text tables (csv) into spreadsheet is a very common, nevertheless bad idea, particularly when you do not know anything about spreadsheets. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
