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- From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013, 4:09 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation I've tried both the Wubi install and a proper dual boot system of Windows and Ubuntu. It's been a long time, so I can't recall exactly why, but it seems that the Wubi installation gave me something that the true dual-boot system didn't. I seem to remember that, in the true dual boot system, I couldn't use LO in Ubuntu to access the documents in my Windows partition. There seemed to be greater separation between the Windows and Ubuntu sides of things. But, in the Wubi installation, I could easily access my Windows system by going through File System/Host. And, when I went to delete the proper Ubuntu partition, I was met with the horrible grub loader that I had to undo and fix before I could even boot from Windows again. So, I preferred Wubi, even though I knew that it wasn't a real Linux system. My problem now is that I really want to like Linux. I don't want to keep relying on MS and Windows, etc., but every time I try Linux in any form, I come across some roadblock that prevents me from committing. I've tried several versions of Ubuntu, both Wubi and proper as Tom puts it, and I've tried the Windows installation of Mint 15 (both 32 and 62 bit). After a while, I realize I'm spending a ton of time just trying to make my Linux system catch up to what I can already accomplish in Windows. Even LO works better for me in Windows than in Linux. Simple things like getting my style list box to properly dock to one side of the screen works easily in Windows, but I could never get it to work properly in Ubuntu (but I could in Mint... go figure). And, I had some keyboard issues with my numeric keypad in both Mint and Ubuntu -- nothing major, but an irritation nonetheless. I still have a Mint installation on a jump drive. For now, when I want to play, I'll just boot from that and gain more experience. Once I learn more then I may invest the time and effort into a proper Linux system. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:45 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation Hi :) Ahhh, the Wubi. For most people it does work really well and for many years but just occasionally it runs into weird problems that just don't happen on a proper dual-boot system. The Wubi is installed inside Windows and depends on MS Windows co-operating with the Ubuntu. Various crucial systems such as the boot-loader and the file-system are basically MS systems instead of the proper GnuLinux ones. The GnuLinux ones are built to be stable. Years ago several antivirus programs would inaccurately report various false-positives. There are other distros which also have clever ways of installing inside Windows without having to resort to too many layers or emulators or virtual machines but the whole idea seems flawed to me. MS are not renowned for co-operating with other systems. Still, a lot of good work goes in and the systems are usually stable for most people but a few are unlucky without any obvious reason. Sorry Virgil! Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 20:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation Unless anyone else is bothered by this behavior in the Linux LO, I'm letting it go. I just uninstalled my Ubuntu wubi install. I'm going to leave it for a while before trying again. My Windows LO works fine, and so for now, I'll stay here. I have another life I have to live. Thanks to all who were interested in this issue. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:28 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen. It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages. Maybe Mint did not install that package. So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian package and see if that helps. My package was labeled libhyphen0. Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list] installed: hyphen-en-us libhyphen0 openoffice.org-hyphenation So go that route. Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic which Ubuntu no longer installs by default. Then install them there. You might fix some of your issues. As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers - it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer. Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04. Okay, here's what I've done. 1. I searched Synaptic
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation
Hi :) You could always install the 4.0.5 by downloading directly from the upstream website at https://www.libreoffice.org/downloads errr, something like that. I just typed it rather than copypasted it because i've already got far t many tabs open and so i keep losing track of where anything is. There are 3 main ways of installing software 1. Stick to the default repos and only use the package managers to find and install stuff 2. Add extra repos, PPAs and similar repositories of software that has been tweaked for your system 3. Go upstream directly to whichever random website you think might be a legitimate download site for the program you are looking for and cross your fingers 4. Get a Cd or Dvd and hope that it really is what you were looking for and is legit and doesn't have malware bundled with it 5. Find the original source code and check it's legitimate and have a quick read through to see if anything dodgy jumps out at you and then compile from source Lets ignore 5, especially in Ubuntu and other gateway distros. you kinda need coding skills and a lot of patience because compiling is a slow painful process best left to the experts. Windows only offers options 3 and 4 (which are both really the same option) and that puts you at the mercy of people who might only be familiar with 1 program and may well have no idea about your system. So i copy what microsoft.com keep saying - i recommend that you normally avoid this route but you can trust us (honest guv) Each route has it's own advantages and disadvantages. Different people will recommend slightly different routes but may not tell you the drawbacks. I tend to stick with 1 as much as possible and get most of my stuff from there but of course i add some PPAs and the Medibuntu repos (Medibuntu deals with all the multimedia stuff i enjoy using (thanks folks!)). I only use option 3 for LibreOffice and Evolution. In both cases it's because i happen to prefer the untweaked version and i like to only upgrade them when i want to (and not halfway through doing the newsletter or something big). So, i get no automatic updates nor upgrades but if i put the time in then i can be on the ultra-latest versions faster without having to wait for anyone else. If i had to install LibreOffice on my dad's boat i would go for the Dvd because connecting to the internet is such a pain from his. There are a few i would trust. The North American Dvd Project is an excellent one and a lot of time and hard work goes into those Dvds. Generally they are worth at least twice as much as they cost, possibly more. I'm not nearly as involved in that as their website suggests! Mostly it's the heroic work of just 1 man. Anyway, point is that if you want the ultra-latest versions soon after they come out then you kinda have to talk to the PPA or repo maintainers but they are never going to be as fast as you can be by downloading directly off the upstream downloads page. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: soumalya ray soumalya6...@yahoo.co.in To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013, 6:02 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation hi virgil, ---snip--- 5. I then upgraded LO to 4.0.4.2 using the ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0 repository. That was a little weird as I followed online instructions for upgrading to 4.0.5, but the closest I got was 4.0.4.2. Oh, well. snip--- that is because libreoffice 4.0.5 was upgraded in that ppa only for raring (https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0?field.series_filter=raring); not for quantal, precise or lucid. so, if you are using the ppa in raring, 4.0.5.2 will be installed; otherwise, 4.0.4.2 is going to be the latest one from this ppa. reason is not know to me. may be other members could put some light on this. regards, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On 09/17/2013 01:28 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen. It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages. Maybe Mint did not install that package. So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian package and see if that helps. My package was labeled libhyphen0. Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list] installed: hyphen-en-us libhyphen0 openoffice.org-hyphenation So go that route. Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic which Ubuntu no longer installs by default. Then install them there. You might fix some of your issues. As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers - it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer. Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04. Okay, here's what I've done. 1. I searched Synaptic for libhyphen and found the same files you mentioned. Yet, LO doesn't recognize it. 2. I then uninstalled my Linux Mint. It was no big deal as I had a Bible research program that wouldn't work with it anyway. (I won't necessarily blame Mint, but I didn't want to have to chase down two Mint problems) 3. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the Wubi installer. That installed LO 3.5.x by default. (The Bible research program also worked.) 4. I checked LO 3.5.x, under Options/Language Settings/Writing Aids/ and it had the Hunspell spellcheck module, but it did not have any modules for Hyphenation, Grammar, or Thesaurus. 5. I then upgraded LO to 4.0.4.2 using the ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0 repository. That was a little weird as I followed online instructions for upgrading to 4.0.5, but the closest I got was 4.0.4.2. Oh, well. 6. I then installed the American English dictionary from the dictionary extensions. 7. Once that was installed, I gained the OpenOffice Thesaurus module, but still no Hyphenation or Grammar Checker modules. 8. Using Synaptic, I found all the same files you listed on your system. 9. Out of curiosity, I then noticed the packages listed at https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0. It mentions the hunspell package and, immediately after, a hyphen package (version 2.8.3-1~lucid1), but no libhyphen package. At this point, I'm waaa out of my techno comfort zone. This has become a real head scratcher for me. For my actual work, I'm still booting into Windows, but the OCD side of me wants to figure this out. Virgil I do not use Repository or PPA for installing LibreOffice. I download the Debian install from the web site. The only issue with that is you will need to remove the previous installed version first. That is a whole different discussion why that is required. I run 4.0.5 on Ubuntu and have one Windows system using 4.1.1. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) Ahhh, the Wubi. For most people it does work really well and for many years but just occasionally it runs into weird problems that just don't happen on a proper dual-boot system. The Wubi is installed inside Windows and depends on MS Windows co-operating with the Ubuntu. Various crucial systems such as the boot-loader and the file-system are basically MS systems instead of the proper GnuLinux ones. The GnuLinux ones are built to be stable. Years ago several antivirus programs would inaccurately report various false-positives. There are other distros which also have clever ways of installing inside Windows without having to resort to too many layers or emulators or virtual machines but the whole idea seems flawed to me. MS are not renowned for co-operating with other systems. Still, a lot of good work goes in and the systems are usually stable for most people but a few are unlucky without any obvious reason. Sorry Virgil! Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 20:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation Unless anyone else is bothered by this behavior in the Linux LO, I'm letting it go. I just uninstalled my Ubuntu wubi install. I'm going to leave it for a while before trying again. My Windows LO works fine, and so for now, I'll stay here. I have another life I have to live. Thanks to all who were interested in this issue. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:28 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen. It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages. Maybe Mint did not install that package. So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian package and see if that helps. My package was labeled libhyphen0. Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list] installed: hyphen-en-us libhyphen0 openoffice.org-hyphenation So go that route. Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic which Ubuntu no longer installs by default. Then install them there. You might fix some of your issues. As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers - it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer. Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04. Okay, here's what I've done. 1. I searched Synaptic for libhyphen and found the same files you mentioned. Yet, LO doesn't recognize it. 2. I then uninstalled my Linux Mint. It was no big deal as I had a Bible research program that wouldn't work with it anyway. (I won't necessarily blame Mint, but I didn't want to have to chase down two Mint problems) 3. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the Wubi installer. That installed LO 3.5.x by default. (The Bible research program also worked.) 4. I checked LO 3.5.x, under Options/Language Settings/Writing Aids/ and it had the Hunspell spellcheck module, but it did not have any modules for Hyphenation, Grammar, or Thesaurus. 5. I then upgraded LO to 4.0.4.2 using the ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0 repository. That was a little weird as I followed online instructions for upgrading to 4.0.5, but the closest I got was 4.0.4.2. Oh, well. 6. I then installed the American English dictionary from the dictionary extensions. 7. Once that was installed, I gained the OpenOffice Thesaurus module, but still no Hyphenation or Grammar Checker modules. 8. Using Synaptic, I found all the same files you listed on your system. 9. Out of curiosity, I then noticed the packages listed at https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0. It mentions the hunspell package and, immediately after, a hyphen package (version 2.8.3-1~lucid1), but no libhyphen package. At this point, I'm waaa out of my techno comfort zone. This has become a real head scratcher for me. For my actual work, I'm still booting into Windows, but the OCD side of me wants to figure this out. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e
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Tom Davies: The Wubi is installed inside Windows and depends on MS Windows co-operating with the Ubuntu. Various crucial systems such as the boot-loader and the file-system are basically MS systems instead of the proper GnuLinux ones. That has no relation to the system stability. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 04:03:25 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Tom Davies: The Wubi is installed inside Windows and depends on MS Windows co-operating with the Ubuntu. Various crucial systems such as the boot-loader and the file-system are basically MS systems instead of the proper GnuLinux ones. That has no relation to the system stability. Uh, sure it does. They are different systems, therefore they have different stability issues. Any two parts that are *different* will have the potential for different problems. In this case there is the additional factor that these subsystems are integral to the whole, and many other parts of the system further down the line are made with the assumption that these underlying subsystems function a certain way. In well written systems, subsystems make as few assumptions about other parts of the system as possible, but it does still happen more often that one would hope for. And when they are as different as linux and windows are, sometimes those assumptions become invalidated, which can cause further instability. Paul -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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I've tried both the Wubi install and a proper dual boot system of Windows and Ubuntu. It's been a long time, so I can't recall exactly why, but it seems that the Wubi installation gave me something that the true dual-boot system didn't. I seem to remember that, in the true dual boot system, I couldn't use LO in Ubuntu to access the documents in my Windows partition. There seemed to be greater separation between the Windows and Ubuntu sides of things. But, in the Wubi installation, I could easily access my Windows system by going through File System/Host. And, when I went to delete the proper Ubuntu partition, I was met with the horrible grub loader that I had to undo and fix before I could even boot from Windows again. So, I preferred Wubi, even though I knew that it wasn't a real Linux system. My problem now is that I really want to like Linux. I don't want to keep relying on MS and Windows, etc., but every time I try Linux in any form, I come across some roadblock that prevents me from committing. I've tried several versions of Ubuntu, both Wubi and proper as Tom puts it, and I've tried the Windows installation of Mint 15 (both 32 and 62 bit). After a while, I realize I'm spending a ton of time just trying to make my Linux system catch up to what I can already accomplish in Windows. Even LO works better for me in Windows than in Linux. Simple things like getting my style list box to properly dock to one side of the screen works easily in Windows, but I could never get it to work properly in Ubuntu (but I could in Mint... go figure). And, I had some keyboard issues with my numeric keypad in both Mint and Ubuntu -- nothing major, but an irritation nonetheless. I still have a Mint installation on a jump drive. For now, when I want to play, I'll just boot from that and gain more experience. Once I learn more then I may invest the time and effort into a proper Linux system. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:45 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation Hi :) Ahhh, the Wubi. For most people it does work really well and for many years but just occasionally it runs into weird problems that just don't happen on a proper dual-boot system. The Wubi is installed inside Windows and depends on MS Windows co-operating with the Ubuntu. Various crucial systems such as the boot-loader and the file-system are basically MS systems instead of the proper GnuLinux ones. The GnuLinux ones are built to be stable. Years ago several antivirus programs would inaccurately report various false-positives. There are other distros which also have clever ways of installing inside Windows without having to resort to too many layers or emulators or virtual machines but the whole idea seems flawed to me. MS are not renowned for co-operating with other systems. Still, a lot of good work goes in and the systems are usually stable for most people but a few are unlucky without any obvious reason. Sorry Virgil! Apols and regards from Tom :) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013, 20:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation Unless anyone else is bothered by this behavior in the Linux LO, I'm letting it go. I just uninstalled my Ubuntu wubi install. I'm going to leave it for a while before trying again. My Windows LO works fine, and so for now, I'll stay here. I have another life I have to live. Thanks to all who were interested in this issue. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:28 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen. It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages. Maybe Mint did not install that package. So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian package and see if that helps. My package was labeled libhyphen0. Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list] installed: hyphen-en-us libhyphen0 openoffice.org-hyphenation So go that route. Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic which Ubuntu no longer installs by default. Then install them there. You might fix some of your issues. As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers - it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer. Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04. Okay, here's what I've done. 1. I searched Synaptic for libhyphen and found the same files you mentioned. Yet, LO doesn't recognize it. 2. I then uninstalled my Linux Mint. It was no big deal as I had a Bible research program that wouldn't work with it anyway. (I won't
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation
On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen. It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages. Maybe Mint did not install that package. So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian package and see if that helps. My package was labeled libhyphen0. Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list] installed: hyphen-en-us libhyphen0 openoffice.org-hyphenation So go that route. Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic which Ubuntu no longer installs by default. Then install them there. You might fix some of your issues. As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers - it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer. Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04. Okay, here's what I've done. 1. I searched Synaptic for libhyphen and found the same files you mentioned. Yet, LO doesn't recognize it. 2. I then uninstalled my Linux Mint. It was no big deal as I had a Bible research program that wouldn't work with it anyway. (I won't necessarily blame Mint, but I didn't want to have to chase down two Mint problems) 3. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the Wubi installer. That installed LO 3.5.x by default. (The Bible research program also worked.) 4. I checked LO 3.5.x, under Options/Language Settings/Writing Aids/ and it had the Hunspell spellcheck module, but it did not have any modules for Hyphenation, Grammar, or Thesaurus. 5. I then upgraded LO to 4.0.4.2 using the ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0 repository. That was a little weird as I followed online instructions for upgrading to 4.0.5, but the closest I got was 4.0.4.2. Oh, well. 6. I then installed the American English dictionary from the dictionary extensions. 7. Once that was installed, I gained the OpenOffice Thesaurus module, but still no Hyphenation or Grammar Checker modules. 8. Using Synaptic, I found all the same files you listed on your system. 9. Out of curiosity, I then noticed the packages listed at https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0. It mentions the hunspell package and, immediately after, a hyphen package (version 2.8.3-1~lucid1), but no libhyphen package. At this point, I'm waaa out of my techno comfort zone. This has become a real head scratcher for me. For my actual work, I'm still booting into Windows, but the OCD side of me wants to figure this out. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Unless anyone else is bothered by this behavior in the Linux LO, I'm letting it go. I just uninstalled my Ubuntu wubi install. I'm going to leave it for a while before trying again. My Windows LO works fine, and so for now, I'll stay here. I have another life I have to live. Thanks to all who were interested in this issue. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:28 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen. It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages. Maybe Mint did not install that package. So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian package and see if that helps. My package was labeled libhyphen0. Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list] installed: hyphen-en-us libhyphen0 openoffice.org-hyphenation So go that route. Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic which Ubuntu no longer installs by default. Then install them there. You might fix some of your issues. As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers - it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer. Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04. Okay, here's what I've done. 1. I searched Synaptic for libhyphen and found the same files you mentioned. Yet, LO doesn't recognize it. 2. I then uninstalled my Linux Mint. It was no big deal as I had a Bible research program that wouldn't work with it anyway. (I won't necessarily blame Mint, but I didn't want to have to chase down two Mint problems) 3. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using the Wubi installer. That installed LO 3.5.x by default. (The Bible research program also worked.) 4. I checked LO 3.5.x, under Options/Language Settings/Writing Aids/ and it had the Hunspell spellcheck module, but it did not have any modules for Hyphenation, Grammar, or Thesaurus. 5. I then upgraded LO to 4.0.4.2 using the ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0 repository. That was a little weird as I followed online instructions for upgrading to 4.0.5, but the closest I got was 4.0.4.2. Oh, well. 6. I then installed the American English dictionary from the dictionary extensions. 7. Once that was installed, I gained the OpenOffice Thesaurus module, but still no Hyphenation or Grammar Checker modules. 8. Using Synaptic, I found all the same files you listed on your system. 9. Out of curiosity, I then noticed the packages listed at https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0. It mentions the hunspell package and, immediately after, a hyphen package (version 2.8.3-1~lucid1), but no libhyphen package. At this point, I'm waaa out of my techno comfort zone. This has become a real head scratcher for me. For my actual work, I'm still booting into Windows, but the OCD side of me wants to figure this out. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation
OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up libhyphen. It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages. Maybe Mint did not install that package. So go to your package manager and look up and install that Debian package and see if that helps. My package was labeled libhyphen0. Looking up hyphen, I have the following [but not the entire list] installed: hyphen-en-us libhyphen0 openoffice.org-hyphenation So go that route. Look up the packages in you package manager - I prefer to use Synaptic which Ubuntu no longer installs by default. Then install them there. You might fix some of your issues. As I stated, Mint and I had problems with one if my network printers - it did not exist on the network - but would use it as a USB printer. Had no issues with Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04. On 09/14/2013 07:51 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: As Kracked alluded, I'm not sure what Urmas is referring to. I've installed the American English dictionary from the extension library. It has a hyphenation library. What my program seems to be messing is the Libhyphen Hyphenator module, whatever that is... Virgil -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 10:19 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation On 09/14/2013 08:28 AM, Urmas wrote: Virgil Arrington: Have you tried to install 'hyphen-en-us' package? Are you asking about a package that is included with Linux Mint? There is a working hyphen package in the American English dictionary. Spelling, Thesaurus, and Hyphenation, for en_US. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation
Virgil Arrington: Have you tried to install 'hyphen-en-us' package? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation
On 09/14/2013 08:28 AM, Urmas wrote: Virgil Arrington: Have you tried to install 'hyphen-en-us' package? Are you asking about a package that is included with Linux Mint? There is a working hyphen package in the American English dictionary. Spelling, Thesaurus, and Hyphenation, for en_US. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation
As Kracked alluded, I'm not sure what Urmas is referring to. I've installed the American English dictionary from the extension library. It has a hyphenation library. What my program seems to be messing is the Libhyphen Hyphenator module, whatever that is... Virgil -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 10:19 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation On 09/14/2013 08:28 AM, Urmas wrote: Virgil Arrington: Have you tried to install 'hyphen-en-us' package? Are you asking about a package that is included with Linux Mint? There is a working hyphen package in the American English dictionary. Spelling, Thesaurus, and Hyphenation, for en_US. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
