Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paste of Dates Incorrect in Calc

2013-05-13 Thread Oogie McGuire
Update,

This appears to be the issue.

Thanks!

The original source for the data in the spreadsheet was from Excel from about 
15 years ago. Since then it's been through a bunch of upgrades to MS Office, 
StarOffice, OpenOffice and LibreOffice on several different systems both Mac 
and PC and across many operating system revisions. 

Once I got the base dates set to match in the new spreadsheets the dates work 
as expected. On the Mac it's changed in Preferences, Calc, Calculate over on 
the right hand side of the window, in case anyone else is looking for the Tools 
link mentioned in the help web site.

Now I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to write some sort of Macro to 
change the dates so I can set the day zero to be the now standard one of 
12/30/1899 and update my spreadsheets. The volume of them and the legacy data 
may make it impossible.

Anyway, thanks for solving my problem.

On May 12, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

 Hi. Take a look at 
 https://help.libreoffice.org/3.6/Calc/Date_and_Time_Functions
 To me the difference you are getting looks close to the difference between 
 the date bases for day zero.
 Steve

Eugenie (Oogie) McGuire 
Desert Weyr http://www.desertweyr.com/  
Paonia, CO USA


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Paste of Dates Incorrect in Calc

2013-05-12 Thread Nino Novak
Am 12.05.2013 21:00, schrieb Oogie McGuire:

 In the first spreadsheet I  select the cells containing the dates I
 want. copy (command c) move to the spreadsheet where I want to paste
 them select the cells where they are to be pasted paste (command v)
 and the data is entered as a date but they have all changed what was
 05/08/2005 in one sheep has become 05/09/2001 in the second sheet!


without knowing the reasons of your problem, and in addition what Brian
wrote, you could try the following:

As dates are represented internally by (integer) numbers, please select
the cells containing the dates before you copy them, and set the cell
format to standard. Then all dates should turn into numbers.

What happens if you copypaste those numbers to your new spreadsheet?

Do the numbers change?

If not, you can then select the target cells and format them as date -
and see if they are correct now.

Nino

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paste of Dates Incorrect in Calc

2013-05-12 Thread Oogie McGuire
OK following up on the suggestions.

First the user profile page linked to doesn't exist so I can't try that.

I upgraded my system to the latest LibreOffice in case that was a problem am 
running 3.6.6.2 (Build ID: f969faf)

All data was originally created on the same machine in the US locale not 
changed.

I have tried all subsets of paste special I can think of.

I tried setting the format of the cells to number general. Copied those, pasted 
into a new spreadsheet, The numbers did not change at all. But when I then set 
the format to date the dates are not the same and are incorrect. 

Tried the copy within the sheet where the dates are correct and it works 
properly

Tried a select of the dates where they are correct. get a brand new blank 
spreadsheet, paste the dates. They are incorrect

Tried copy of the dates after they have been changed to format as numbers 
create a brand new spreadsheet paste verify the numbers are the same change the 
format to date and then the dates are incorrect.

I'd be glad to send the info to anyone else to se if they can figure it out. 
Not sure how or where to upload a file though
On May 12, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Nino Novak wrote:

 Am 12.05.2013 21:00, schrieb Oogie McGuire:
 
 In the first spreadsheet I  select the cells containing the dates I
 want. copy (command c) move to the spreadsheet where I want to paste
 them select the cells where they are to be pasted paste (command v)
 and the data is entered as a date but they have all changed what was
 05/08/2005 in one sheep has become 05/09/2001 in the second sheet!
 
 
 without knowing the reasons of your problem, and in addition what Brian
 wrote, you could try the following:
 
 As dates are represented internally by (integer) numbers, please select
 the cells containing the dates before you copy them, and set the cell
 format to standard. Then all dates should turn into numbers.
 
 What happens if you copypaste those numbers to your new spreadsheet?
 
 Do the numbers change?
 
 If not, you can then select the target cells and format them as date -
 and see if they are correct now.
 
 Nino
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paste of Dates Incorrect in Calc

2013-05-12 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi. Take a look at 
https://help.libreoffice.org/3.6/Calc/Date_and_Time_Functions
To me the difference you are getting looks close to the difference 
between the date bases for day zero.

Steve

On 2013-05-13 08:45, Oogie McGuire wrote:

OK following up on the suggestions.

First the user profile page linked to doesn't exist so I can't try that.

I upgraded my system to the latest LibreOffice in case that was a problem am 
running 3.6.6.2 (Build ID: f969faf)

All data was originally created on the same machine in the US locale not 
changed.

I have tried all subsets of paste special I can think of.

I tried setting the format of the cells to number general. Copied those, pasted 
into a new spreadsheet, The numbers did not change at all. But when I then set 
the format to date the dates are not the same and are incorrect.

Tried the copy within the sheet where the dates are correct and it works 
properly

Tried a select of the dates where they are correct. get a brand new blank 
spreadsheet, paste the dates. They are incorrect

Tried copy of the dates after they have been changed to format as numbers 
create a brand new spreadsheet paste verify the numbers are the same change the 
format to date and then the dates are incorrect.

I'd be glad to send the info to anyone else to se if they can figure it out. 
Not sure how or where to upload a file though
On May 12, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Nino Novak wrote:


Am 12.05.2013 21:00, schrieb Oogie McGuire:


In the first spreadsheet I  select the cells containing the dates I
want. copy (command c) move to the spreadsheet where I want to paste
them select the cells where they are to be pasted paste (command v)
and the data is entered as a date but they have all changed what was
05/08/2005 in one sheep has become 05/09/2001 in the second sheet!


without knowing the reasons of your problem, and in addition what Brian
wrote, you could try the following:

As dates are represented internally by (integer) numbers, please select
the cells containing the dates before you copy them, and set the cell
format to standard. Then all dates should turn into numbers.

What happens if you copypaste those numbers to your new spreadsheet?

Do the numbers change?

If not, you can then select the target cells and format them as date -
and see if they are correct now.

Nino

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Paste of Dates Incorrect in Calc

2013-05-12 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Sorry about that.  I had not thought about the commands being slightly
different on a Mac but the link should have worked.  It should have been
clickable.  You are not the first to have had troubles with it though.  

Are you able to do a google search (or similar) to find LibreOffice
Publications.  That tends to be a good way to get to our wiki.  Then on the
wiki in the top right corner is a search box to look-up User Profile.  

It's not swapping MM/DD/ to DD/MM/ is it because the year number is
changing too.  Are the dates aligned to the left of the cell (like text) or
to the right (like numbers)?  I take it you have tried creating 2 new files
and keying in a few dates and then copying those to the other new file?  You
stated all other combinations except for that one and i don't know if that
was me just not noticing (again).  
Apols and regards from 
Tom :)  

 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paste of Dates Incorrect in Calc

2013-05-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
That looks like the winner to me.  Ignore my post
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
To: Oogie McGuire oog...@desertweyr.com 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, 12 May 2013, 22:09
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paste of Dates Incorrect in Calc
 

Hi. Take a look at 
https://help.libreoffice.org/3.6/Calc/Date_and_Time_Functions
To me the difference you are getting looks close to the difference 
between the date bases for day zero.
Steve

On 2013-05-13 08:45, Oogie McGuire wrote:
 OK following up on the suggestions.

 First the user profile page linked to doesn't exist so I can't try that.

 I upgraded my system to the latest LibreOffice in case that was a problem am 
 running 3.6.6.2 (Build ID: f969faf)

 All data was originally created on the same machine in the US locale not 
 changed.

 I have tried all subsets of paste special I can think of.

 I tried setting the format of the cells to number general. Copied those, 
 pasted into a new spreadsheet, The numbers did not change at all. But when I 
 then set the format to date the dates are not the same and are incorrect.

 Tried the copy within the sheet where the dates are correct and it works 
 properly

 Tried a select of the dates where they are correct. get a brand new blank 
 spreadsheet, paste the dates. They are incorrect

 Tried copy of the dates after they have been changed to format as numbers 
 create a brand new spreadsheet paste verify the numbers are the same change 
 the format to date and then the dates are incorrect.

 I'd be glad to send the info to anyone else to se if they can figure it out. 
 Not sure how or where to upload a file though
 On May 12, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Nino Novak wrote:

 Am 12.05.2013 21:00, schrieb Oogie McGuire:

 In the first spreadsheet I  select the cells containing the dates I
 want. copy (command c) move to the spreadsheet where I want to paste
 them select the cells where they are to be pasted paste (command v)
 and the data is entered as a date but they have all changed what was
 05/08/2005 in one sheep has become 05/09/2001 in the second sheet!

 without knowing the reasons of your problem, and in addition what Brian
 wrote, you could try the following:

 As dates are represented internally by (integer) numbers, please select
 the cells containing the dates before you copy them, and set the cell
 format to standard. Then all dates should turn into numbers.

 What happens if you copypaste those numbers to your new spreadsheet?

 Do the numbers change?

 If not, you can then select the target cells and format them as date -
 and see if they are correct now.

 Nino

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