[libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-02-04 Thread TJ

On 02/01/2012 05:45 PM, TJ wrote:

 I tried running
spadmin as root to change the default, but for some reason Mageia
wouldn't do it. Probably just as well, as I'm very much out of my
element when it comes to command line noodling.

I found out what I was doing wrong to run spadmin, but it didn't help. 
While I could change the settings, they'd change back on their own as 
soon as I hit OK to close the box. Either I'm still doing something 
wrong, or something else is over riding it.


TJ


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-02-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:31:47 -0500
Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com dijo:

On 02/01/2012 05:45 PM, TJ wrote:
 On 01/25/2012 01:56 PM, Don C. Myers wrote:
 I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.4 from the Mageia 1 repositories with KDE, 
 trying to print to a Deskjet 5650 printer, and I'm having problems 
 with this, too. My problem is related to that experienced by the
 Arch user in your second link, in that landscape -oriented
 spreadsheets from Calc aren't printing properly - to say the least.
 Mine prints fine until it gets to the 8.5 inch mark, then it prints
 a truncated version of the last column over and over until the edge
 of the paper. Print Preview looks fine, and while I haven't tried it
 yet I suspect printing to a pdf file would work, too.

 Changing the printer language to Postscript fixes it. I haven't 
 noticed the problem with other applications yet, but then I don't 
 print much as a regular rule, just this time of year.

 I didn't have the problem last year, when I was using Mandriva
 2010.2 and OpenOffice.

 I can try to remember to change the printer language on every
 document I make in the future, but like Mr. Jordan I think it's a
 pain in the butt to remember to change it if I go to print old
 documents. I tried running spadmin as root to change the default,
 but for some reason Mageia wouldn't do it. Probably just as well, as
 I'm very much out of my element when it comes to command line
 noodling.

 It shouldn't have to be that way, anyway. There should be an easy
 way to make Postscript the default, if you want.

I have not noticed any problems printing from Linux Mint 12. I would 
check the default printer settings and test the printer with another 
non-LO program to see if the problem is with the printer set up. The 
printer could be set up to default everywhere to pdf not to postscript.

Let me clarify a few things.

I first noticed this when printing to a Laserjet 4M+. I also have a
5SiMx, an 8000DN, and a Xerox Phaser 7400DN. The problem happens with
most of them. And I have several printers installed for each physical
printer, and it doesn't matter which one I select. I always get text
with the font metrics messed up. 

This problem does not occur with any other program. This includes
Abiword, Kword, Gedit, and Scribus - the usual programs I use for
printing text. It did not occur with OpenOffice.org. I do not know if
OOo used the same default to PDF as LibreOffice, and I cannot easily
check because it is no longer installed. 

I could wipe out Fedora 16 and install Linux Mint, but the last time I
changed distros it took almost a week to get everything reinstalled and 
reconfigured back the way I had it. I have a zillion programs
installed, some of which took hours of tweaking to get them running.
And I require these programs for my work. So, for now at least, I'm
stuck with Fedora 16. Besides, I don't think the problem is in Fedora. 

From reading others' responses it appears that all we need to do is
change the default from PDF to Postscript. 

I should add that just today I discovered another problem. I needed to
print six copies of a one-page document (to give a paper copy to six
different people). I remembered to check Postscript, but when the
copies came out of the printer copy 2 was on the back of copy 1, copy 4
on the back of copy 3, and copy 6 on the back of copy 5. The only ways
I can find to stop this behavior were to print one copy and click on the
Print button six times, or disable the duplexer in the printer and try
to remember to re-enable it afterward. LAME. But I will post this under
another thread later. It's time for bed.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-02-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
When i upgrade my OS i keep the existing one working and just set a new 
partition for the new one.  Generally for me it's a 3 step process
1.  Create a largish partition, say 20Gb for something bloated (like Ubuntu, 
Mint, Fedora, openSUSE etc) (err bloat = more functionality built-in so it's 
not always bad).  Install the new thing with it's /home on the same partition.  
Test it, update it, tweak and play around and perhaps even make a complete mess 
of it.  After install i set the boot-menu to default to my working distro not 
the one i am test-driving.
2.  Install to an old tiny partition but during install set /home to use my 
vast partition (relatively).  Again set the boot-menu to my older but fully 
functioning distro that i am familiar with.  
3.  When i am happy about the new one i switch the boot-menu to the newer one.

So, i always default into something i know works well enough for me and 
familiar enough that i can meet deadlines without having to deal with 
unexpected surprises, well mostly.  

I have even managed to do this with Windows but GnuLinux tends to make it easy 
or even wants to do it that way by default.  

Back when i was a bit of a distro-hopper i sometimes had to scavenge 
hard-drives from old 'dead' machines in order to get space for a new 
partition.  Even the most bloated distro can fit on ancient crumbling drives 
that no respectable person would normally consider using.  Hmm, well i do have 
a 100 MB hard-drive somewhere and a 1 or 2Gb one but they are really museum 
pieces.  

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Thu, 2/2/12, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:

From: John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of 
Postscript
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 7:18

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:31:47 -0500
Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com dijo:

On 02/01/2012 05:45 PM, TJ wrote:
 On 01/25/2012 01:56 PM, Don C. Myers wrote:
 I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.4 from the Mageia 1 repositories with KDE, 
 trying to print to a Deskjet 5650 printer, and I'm having problems 
 with this, too. My problem is related to that experienced by the
 Arch user in your second link, in that landscape -oriented
 spreadsheets from Calc aren't printing properly - to say the least.
 Mine prints fine until it gets to the 8.5 inch mark, then it prints
 a truncated version of the last column over and over until the edge
 of the paper. Print Preview looks fine, and while I haven't tried it
 yet I suspect printing to a pdf file would work, too.

 Changing the printer language to Postscript fixes it. I haven't 
 noticed the problem with other applications yet, but then I don't 
 print much as a regular rule, just this time of year.

 I didn't have the problem last year, when I was using Mandriva
 2010.2 and OpenOffice.

 I can try to remember to change the printer language on every
 document I make in the future, but like Mr. Jordan I think it's a
 pain in the butt to remember to change it if I go to print old
 documents. I tried running spadmin as root to change the default,
 but for some reason Mageia wouldn't do it. Probably just as well, as
 I'm very much out of my element when it comes to command line
 noodling.

 It shouldn't have to be that way, anyway. There should be an easy
 way to make Postscript the default, if you want.

I have not noticed any problems printing from Linux Mint 12. I would 
check the default printer settings and test the printer with another 
non-LO program to see if the problem is with the printer set up. The 
printer could be set up to default everywhere to pdf not to postscript.

Let me clarify a few things.

I first noticed this when printing to a Laserjet 4M+. I also have a
5SiMx, an 8000DN, and a Xerox Phaser 7400DN. The problem happens with
most of them. And I have several printers installed for each physical
printer, and it doesn't matter which one I select. I always get text
with the font metrics messed up. 

This problem does not occur with any other program. This includes
Abiword, Kword, Gedit, and Scribus - the usual programs I use for
printing text. It did not occur with OpenOffice.org. I do not know if
OOo used the same default to PDF as LibreOffice, and I cannot easily
check because it is no longer installed. 

I could wipe out Fedora 16 and install Linux Mint, but the last time I
changed distros it took almost a week to get everything reinstalled and 
reconfigured back the way I had it. I have a zillion programs
installed, some of which took hours of tweaking to get them running.
And I require these programs for my work. So, for now at least, I'm
stuck with Fedora 16. Besides, I don't think the problem is in Fedora. 

From reading others' responses it appears that all we need to do is
change the default from PDF to Postscript. 

I should add that just today I discovered another problem. I needed to
print six copies of a one-page document (to give a paper copy to six

[libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-02-01 Thread TJ

On 01/25/2012 01:56 PM, Don C. Myers wrote:

Hi,

Here is more information about this issue:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=94173

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15938/libre-office-change-printer-language-type-from-pdf-to-postscript


http://www.google.com/#hl=ensugexp=pfwlcp=25gs_id=2qxhr=tq=cups+printer+language+pdfpf=poutput=searchsclient=psy-abpbx=1oq=cups+printer+language+pdfaq=faqi=aql=gs_sm=gs_upl=bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbfp=ed6966981cf4427abiw=1680bih=942


Don

I'm using LibreOffice 3.4.4 from the Mageia 1 repositories with KDE, 
trying to print to a Deskjet 5650 printer, and I'm having problems with 
this, too. My problem is related to that experienced by the Arch user in 
your second link, in that landscape -oriented spreadsheets from Calc 
aren't printing properly - to say the least. Mine prints fine until it 
gets to the 8.5 inch mark, then it prints a truncated version of the 
last column over and over until the edge of the paper. Print Preview 
looks fine, and while I haven't tried it yet I suspect printing to a pdf 
file would work, too.


Changing the printer language to Postscript fixes it. I haven't noticed 
the problem with other applications yet, but then I don't print much as 
a regular rule, just this time of year.


I didn't have the problem last year, when I was using Mandriva 2010.2 
and OpenOffice.


I can try to remember to change the printer language on every document I 
make in the future, but like Mr. Jordan I think it's a pain in the butt 
to remember to change it if I go to print old documents. I tried running 
spadmin as root to change the default, but for some reason Mageia 
wouldn't do it. Probably just as well, as I'm very much out of my 
element when it comes to command line noodling.


It shouldn't have to be that way, anyway. There should be an easy way to 
make Postscript the default, if you want.


TJ



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-01-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Sadly some dialogues do appear to be different/missing in certain DEs.  We have 
only noticed the 1 example so far afaik but where there is one there may be 
others.  

Happily, now is a great time to post bug-reports or add comments to old reports 
to confirm where things are still not quite right in your opinion.  Sometimes 
old bug-reports from OOo need to be re-posted against LO because so much 
divergence has already happened that it would be good to know what issues 
people still want fixed.  A LOT of old problems are getting fixed and sometimes 
not even by focussing on the individual bug-reports because code-clean-up is 
likely to have fixed a whole bunch of issues (and perhaps created a few new 
ones that need to be cleared-up quickly).  Sometimes it might just be your 
opinion and people decided to go the other way but often such decisions are up 
for discussion and possibly changing.  This is a great time to get involved 
with just bug-reporting but stepping it up to doing triaging and anything more 
just helps you get even more out of the project :)

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 24/1/12, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:

From: John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of 
Postscript
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 24 January, 2012, 19:28The appearance of the

snip /

dialog boxes might be different (size, color, borders, etc.), but the
options should always be the same, right?

As an unrelated issue ... 

snip /

...  annoying behavior has persisted through my travels
through OpenSuse, Debian, Fedora, and KDE, Gnome, and now Xfce, and
continues after moving from OOo to Libreoffice. 


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-01-24 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Have you already opsted a bug-report about this?  If not this link might
help
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

We have just had a weird question that shows differences with LO's dialogues
in different DEs (Desktop Environments).  A dialogue in KDE ws very
different from what everyone else gets.  Are you using KDE too?
Regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-01-24 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:50:34 -0800 (PST)
Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk dijo:

Hi :)
Have you already opsted a bug-report about this?  If not this link
might help
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

Haven't posted a bug report yet. Hoping that it is a setting that I can
change. But thanks for the link. If I can't figure out a solution (or
even if there is a solution but the user interface needs to be changed)
I will definitely file a bug report.

We have just had a weird question that shows differences with LO's
dialogues in different DEs (Desktop Environments).  A dialogue in KDE
ws very different from what everyone else gets.  Are you using KDE too?

I am using Xfce, although Gnome 3 and KDE-whatever are also installed.
But i doubt very much that this is a DE problem. The appearance of the
dialog boxes might be different (size, color, borders, etc.), but the
options should always be the same, right?

As an unrelated issue, since my early days with Ubuntu Breezy (yes,
that many years ago), OOo has never taken the window focus properly. I
restore the program from the panel and it does not get the focus until
I click on it. This annoying behavior has persisted through my travels
through OpenSuse, Debian, Fedora, and KDE, Gnome, and now Xfce, and
continues after moving from OOo to Libreoffice. 

At the moment I have a Firefox window on the desktop, my mail client,
and Libreoffice Writer, with the mail client in the foreground, since
it is what I am using right now. If I click on Libreoffice Writer in
the panel the Writer window moves to the top, but does not get focus.
It's the failure to take focus that is annoying. But this is off-topic
for the present thread. I just wanted to say that when I get around to
filing bug reports I should report this one as well, although
considering its senescence I suspect it has already been filed
repeatedly.

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