Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
marianne-x wrote:
Phillip Jordan should be plenty embarrassed when/if he figures out what
he is doing that he is not telling us.
He says he is "downloading all 13,238k" of LibreOffice 4.2.
My download of 4.2.8.2 last night was of 215,400 kb, plus 5432 kb for
the helppack, so of course nothing will work for him.
Perhaps his download failed and was cut short - in which case he could
try downloading again (from libreoffice.org).
We still have no explanation of what he thinks he may need to buy in
order to install LO.
He finds no "installation wizard", so let's try saying this a different
way:
After downloading the right file from the right site, you should find a
file named: libreoffice_4.2.8_win_x86.msi in whatever subdirectory your
downloads go to. If you opted for the helppack, then you should find a
2nd file: libreoffice_4.2.8_win_x86_helppack_en-us.msi there also.
Search for them if you've lost track of where they've been stashed.
If they are not at least close to the sizes given, something has already
gone awry.
These .msi files are executable; one must needs only double-click (in a
/Curtains/ system) on one or the other (the big one first, usually) to
start them running. The resulting screen messages should guide one the
rest of the way.
If you are expecting some magic/just because/ you downloaded the
programme, it won't happen. You have to initiate the execution of the
.msi file.
Whilst we're on the topic, I'd be interested if anyone has a suggestion
pertinent to my particular difficulty: I have to run LO Portable from a
USB stick, because the regular programme refuses to install on this
/Curtains 7/ machine, reporting: "Error 1325 fingerprint is not a valid
short filename", and not giving any information as to how one might
resolve whatever problem LO is having. This has persisted through many
versions, for about 2 years now, and so is not some transient phenomenon.
There are no "fingerprint" file names, short or long, on the system, but
there are two empty subdirectories, associated with OpenOffice, that
have that name.
I assume by "Curtains 7" you mean "Windows 7" (perhaps a literal
translation?) I've never come across that "fingerprint" problem on
Windows Vista. What are the exact paths to those subdirectories ?(i.e.
everything from C:\... up to \fingerprint\) As you say they're empty,
have you tried simply deleting them? If you do, does that solve the
problem, or do they come back again?
There has been a lot of happy talk on this list lately about running
multiple versions of LO in parallel, which is just what one wants to do
in order to act as a useful tester. Perhaps that notion applies to mac
and linux systems only. Whatever the case, attempting to set up such a
parallel system on /Curtains 7/, loading the second version onto a USB
stick (which I naively thought would provide adequate isolation), was
the cause of my LO downfall, from which I have never recovered.
Instructions for setting up a parallel install on Windows are at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/Windows -
basically you can either use a tool to manage the installs, or specify
additional options on the command line when starting the installer. You
may also want to keep the user configuration ("profile") folders
separate for different versions.
Just installing the normal versions to a USB stick might not give the
isolation you need, as they'd all use the same user configuration folder
under your Windows profile's folder. You mentioned the portable version
earlier, and installing a different version of that to a USB stick
should be OK, as it keeps the configuration in the application folder.
If you're only ever using the portable version on one PC, and don't
actually take the USB stick to different PCs to use LibreOffice, you
could install LibreOffice Portable onto the hard disk of that PC.
Provided each portable version is installed to a different folder, they
should still be isolated. I don't know if you can have two different
versions running at the same time; you might have to exit one before
starting another, but having several portable versions installed and
switching between them shouldn't be a problem.
trj
Mark.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Phillip Jordan should be plenty embarrassed when/if he figures out what he is doing that he is not telling us. He says he is "downloading all 13,238k" of LibreOffice 4.2. My download of 4.2.8.2 last night was of 215,400 kb, plus 5432 kb for the helppack, so of course nothing will work for him. We still have no explanation of what he thinks he may need to buy in order to install LO. He finds no "installation wizard", so let's try saying this a different way: After downloading the right file from the right site, you should find a file named: libreoffice_4.2.8_win_x86.msi in whatever subdirectory your downloads go to. If you opted for the helppack, then you should find a 2nd file: libreoffice_4.2.8_win_x86_helppack_en-us.msi there also. Search for them if you've lost track of where they've been stashed. If they are not at least close to the sizes given, something has already gone awry. These .msi files are executable; one must needs only double-click (in a /Curtains/ system) on one or the other (the big one first, usually) to start them running. The resulting screen messages should guide one the rest of the way. If you are expecting some magic/just because/ you downloaded the programme, it won't happen. You have to initiate the execution of the .msi file. Whilst we're on the topic, I'd be interested if anyone has a suggestion pertinent to my particular difficulty: I have to run LO Portable from a USB stick, because the regular programme refuses to install on this /Curtains 7/ machine, reporting: "Error 1325 fingerprint is not a valid short filename", and not giving any information as to how one might resolve whatever problem LO is having. This has persisted through many versions, for about 2 years now, and so is not some transient phenomenon. There are no "fingerprint" file names, short or long, on the system, but there are two empty subdirectories, associated with OpenOffice, that have that name. There has been a lot of happy talk on this list lately about running multiple versions of LO in parallel, which is just what one wants to do in order to act as a useful tester. Perhaps that notion applies to mac and linux systems only. Whatever the case, attempting to set up such a parallel system on /Curtains 7/, loading the second version onto a USB stick (which I naively thought would provide adequate isolation), was the cause of my LO downfall, from which I have never recovered. trj -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
*Many thanks Dave, I'll similarly answer below* On 27 January 2015 at 14:45, Dave Barton wrote: > > My responses are given in-line with your original message. > > Original Message > From: Philip Jordan > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:51:18 + > > > Sorry to interrupt, but I've no idea how this forum or whatever it is > works > > This is a user support mailing list for LibreOffice. > For a definition of what an electronic mailing lists is see: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list > *Thanks & **Noted* > > > & similarly, I've no idea how to utilise i.e. actually set up LibreOffice > > albeit that I've sent the following yesterday > > We are all volunteers located in numerous time zones around the world. > Which means that it can take a little time for your fellow users to see > your request and reply if they think they can possibly assist. > *Much appreciated * > > > please I really do need your basic help e.g. > > > > having downloaded OfficeLibre yesterday (sunday) > > The software is called LibreOffice (Libre = freedom), not OfficeLibre > and you should only download from the official website: > https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ > *Yes that's where I got it from (must have got the order of title words from elsewhere) * > > > I'm afraid I'm unable to make it work i.e. > > > > on this Toshiba Laptop > > via it's Windows 8.1 OS > > > > e.g. there seems to be no installation wizard > >nor a suitable app > >& anyway I just got a message to say > >I could not install it* on this computer > > > > * that's the app/icon, or do they mean the > > the whole OfficeLibre?! > > Unfortunately, people are being indoctrinated into this "App" nonsense. > You download the installation file from the above link and install the > software as per the instructions shown here: > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/install-howto/windows/ > *Well that's what I did already & have now repeated* *BUT* *There's still no installation wizard* *& I keep being told by windows to go to the app store* *&/or there's no connectivity with app I've bought that's on my task bar* *&/or I am back on another LibreOffice website being told to download* *when I've already done this* > > Once you have installed the software it will appear in your list of > available programs (What MS calls your Apps). > Well I can't *Well I still can't* > > > Perhaps I'm doing something wrong > > but I've already wasted several hours > > & have bought an icon, as confirmed > > by Microsoft in an email (I can't reply to) > > This does not make sense. You should _NOT_ buy anything from anyone, > including Microsoft, in order to use LibreOffice. > > > Hope someone there can help please > > > > Philip Jordan of Dorchester, Dorset UK > > You also will find it very helpful to read the "Getting Started" and > "User" guides, available from: > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ > *Thanks I'm just downloading the 4.2 one - all 13,238K of it* *& will try to see if although it's 4.2 that it can help me?!* > > Dave > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Hi :) The LibreOffice download page does ask for donations but you can ignore that and just get the download. It is a huge help and very much appreciated when people do donate. It costs a lot to keep the servers running and administer all the infrastructure and annual accountancy fees, legal costs and all the rest that registered companies/charities have to pay for. There are many ways of donating. Many people on this mailing list donate vast amounts of their time to helping in the community. There are 2 downloads on the page. After the largest one has downloaded double-click on it and it should install. Windows 8 might display a pop-up dialogue-box asking you to confirm that you really want to install this non-Microsoft program. Sometimes it hides that dialogue-box under all the other windows that you have open on your screen. You can minimise them or hunt along the taskbar at the bottom of the screen to find the dialogue-box either way. Similarly with the tiny download. If you install the tiny download before the larger one then just double-click on the smaller one again to reinstall it. Somewhere in the smaller one's title/name is the word "help" or "help pack". It is just the help-files for when you click on the blue question-mark inside LibreOffice. So you don't HAVE to install it but it's usually quite useful. It helps if you do the downloading on the machine that you want to install onto. However in your case you can just use any Windows machine to do the download. The LibreOffice website cleverly detects which Operating System you are using and gives you the appropriate download for that machine. Afaik there are 3 different versions; 1 for all different versions of Windows, 1 for Gnu&Linux&Bsd&Mac, and 1 for Android. Regards from Tom :) On 27 January 2015 at 14:45, Dave Barton wrote: > > My responses are given in-line with your original message. > > Original Message > From: Philip Jordan > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:51:18 + > >> Sorry to interrupt, but I've no idea how this forum or whatever it is works > > This is a user support mailing list for LibreOffice. > For a definition of what an electronic mailing lists is see: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list > >> & similarly, I've no idea how to utilise i.e. actually set up LibreOffice >> albeit that I've sent the following yesterday > > We are all volunteers located in numerous time zones around the world. > Which means that it can take a little time for your fellow users to see > your request and reply if they think they can possibly assist. > >> please I really do need your basic help e.g. >> >> having downloaded OfficeLibre yesterday (sunday) > > The software is called LibreOffice (Libre = freedom), not OfficeLibre > and you should only download from the official website: > https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ > >> I'm afraid I'm unable to make it work i.e. >> >> on this Toshiba Laptop >> via it's Windows 8.1 OS >> >> e.g. there seems to be no installation wizard >>nor a suitable app >>& anyway I just got a message to say >>I could not install it* on this computer >> >> * that's the app/icon, or do they mean the >> the whole OfficeLibre?! > > Unfortunately, people are being indoctrinated into this "App" nonsense. > You download the installation file from the above link and install the > software as per the instructions shown here: > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/install-howto/windows/ > > Once you have installed the software it will appear in your list of > available programs (What MS calls your Apps). > >> Perhaps I'm doing something wrong >> but I've already wasted several hours >> & have bought an icon, as confirmed >> by Microsoft in an email (I can't reply to) > > This does not make sense. You should _NOT_ buy anything from anyone, > including Microsoft, in order to use LibreOffice. > >> Hope someone there can help please >> >> Philip Jordan of Dorchester, Dorset UK > > You also will find it very helpful to read the "Getting Started" and > "User" guides, available from: > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ > > Dave > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
My responses are given in-line with your original message. Original Message From: Philip Jordan To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:51:18 + > Sorry to interrupt, but I've no idea how this forum or whatever it is works This is a user support mailing list for LibreOffice. For a definition of what an electronic mailing lists is see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list > & similarly, I've no idea how to utilise i.e. actually set up LibreOffice > albeit that I've sent the following yesterday We are all volunteers located in numerous time zones around the world. Which means that it can take a little time for your fellow users to see your request and reply if they think they can possibly assist. > please I really do need your basic help e.g. > > having downloaded OfficeLibre yesterday (sunday) The software is called LibreOffice (Libre = freedom), not OfficeLibre and you should only download from the official website: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ > I'm afraid I'm unable to make it work i.e. > > on this Toshiba Laptop > via it's Windows 8.1 OS > > e.g. there seems to be no installation wizard >nor a suitable app >& anyway I just got a message to say >I could not install it* on this computer > > * that's the app/icon, or do they mean the > the whole OfficeLibre?! Unfortunately, people are being indoctrinated into this "App" nonsense. You download the installation file from the above link and install the software as per the instructions shown here: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/install-howto/windows/ Once you have installed the software it will appear in your list of available programs (What MS calls your Apps). > Perhaps I'm doing something wrong > but I've already wasted several hours > & have bought an icon, as confirmed > by Microsoft in an email (I can't reply to) This does not make sense. You should _NOT_ buy anything from anyone, including Microsoft, in order to use LibreOffice. > Hope someone there can help please > > Philip Jordan of Dorchester, Dorset UK You also will find it very helpful to read the "Getting Started" and "User" guides, available from: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Sorry to interrupt, but I've no idea how this forum or whatever it is works & similarly, I've no idea how to utilise i.e. actually set up LibreOffice albeit that I've sent the following yesterday please I really do need your basic help e.g. having downloaded OfficeLibre yesterday (sunday) I'm afraid I'm unable to make it work i.e. on this Toshiba Laptop via it's Windows 8.1 OS e.g. there seems to be no installation wizard nor a suitable app & anyway I just got a message to say I could not install it* on this computer * that's the app/icon, or do they mean the the whole OfficeLibre?! Perhaps I'm doing something wrong but I've already wasted several hours & have bought an icon, as confirmed by Microsoft in an email (I can't reply to) Hope someone there can help please Philip Jordan of Dorchester, Dorset UK On 27 January 2015 at 13:28, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: > Tim and Frank, > As an answer to your kind responding: > In fact I had made a live-DVD to check my PC's (64bit) co-operation with > Ubuntu14.04.1. > My intention is to first install Ubuntu on a VirtualBox because errors are > then easier to correct and > after that perhaps do a dual-boot install (I am an expert on making > errors). > And got some real 'challenges': my system is 64bit/8GB RAM/2 TB HD > (virtualization enabled) but the > Ubuntu(64bit) did not accept to install (memory instruction error???) so I > re-installed VM&Ubuntu as 32bit. > The install is now OK but the Ubuntu is very very slw. > My printer does not work either. > > I know -- this not a LO-issue, so I must try to get help from Ubuntu-forum. > Best regards > Pertti Rönnberg > > > > On 25.1.2015 12:12, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: > >> Is there any need to have Linux in a VirtualBox or could you just boot to >> Linux on your computer - as a dual booting one? >> >> I run laptops with Win7 [pro and home] with Ubuntu on one and Linux Mint >> on another. >> >> There are some things I need to run on Windows, that are easier to use >> than any Linux counterpart. But my default booting for these laptops is >> Linux. I went to Linux as my default OS in the Spring of 2010 , when I >> bought this desktop. I originally was using Linux before that on "spare" >> system when the cost of buying the needed software using Windows was >> getting too much for my budget. I found the needed software "functions and >> applications" for free with Linux [Ubuntu and others]. Actually I >> defaulted to Ubuntu since its Live CD was the only one that allowed my HP >> laptop's audio to work "out of the box". >> >> As for old brains, well after 3 strokes, I am lucky my younger brain >> still works. I think "healthy exercise" for the brain is important, >> whether you are in you 40's or 80's. My wife has end-stage Alzheimer's and >> I really know the importance in keeping you mind as active as you can to >> help reduce the effects of age on your mental abilities. >> >> I am a little "slower" in doing things due to an illness that just will >> not go away, but I am learning to live with it, just like learning to live >> with what the strokes left me to work with. >> >> >> On 01/24/2015 08:55 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: >> >>> >>> Frank, >>> Thank you very much for your soon reply -- I was just working on the >>> installations. >>> The printer seems to be working on the Windows so let us hope it will >>> work OK with the VirtualBox&Ubuntu too. >>> >>> Earlier 10-15years ago I used Windows&Ubuntu parallell but then I had to >>> rebuild my PC completely and for some reason >>> never installed the Ubuntu again - perhaps too complicated -- but I >>> never gave up the idea skipping windows. >>> Now I re-installed system&programs again and decided to start working >>> with Ubuntu again. >>> Next step is to learn using Apache&SQLite for my need of databases. I >>> used to work with MSAccess but am not interested in >>> spending money on purchasing and was told that SQLite is easier and not >>> so heavy as MySQL. Do not know yet. >>> Anyway I find this interesting and think it is a healthy exercise for an >>> old brain too (75y) >>> >>> So any guides and ideas how I shall proceed to get SQLite(3) to run in >>> Ubuntu are welcome. >>> Kind regards >>> Pertti Rönnberg >>> >>> >>> On 24.1.2015 14:22, CVAlkan wrote: >>> Pertti: If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a Virtual Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by the host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host system (and you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu. The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you have no issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you should be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything. Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux dis
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Tim and Frank, As an answer to your kind responding: In fact I had made a live-DVD to check my PC's (64bit) co-operation with Ubuntu14.04.1. My intention is to first install Ubuntu on a VirtualBox because errors are then easier to correct and after that perhaps do a dual-boot install (I am an expert on making errors). And got some real 'challenges': my system is 64bit/8GB RAM/2 TB HD (virtualization enabled) but the Ubuntu(64bit) did not accept to install (memory instruction error???) so I re-installed VM&Ubuntu as 32bit. The install is now OK but the Ubuntu is very very slw. My printer does not work either. I know -- this not a LO-issue, so I must try to get help from Ubuntu-forum. Best regards Pertti Rönnberg On 25.1.2015 12:12, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Is there any need to have Linux in a VirtualBox or could you just boot to Linux on your computer - as a dual booting one? I run laptops with Win7 [pro and home] with Ubuntu on one and Linux Mint on another. There are some things I need to run on Windows, that are easier to use than any Linux counterpart. But my default booting for these laptops is Linux. I went to Linux as my default OS in the Spring of 2010 , when I bought this desktop. I originally was using Linux before that on "spare" system when the cost of buying the needed software using Windows was getting too much for my budget. I found the needed software "functions and applications" for free with Linux [Ubuntu and others]. Actually I defaulted to Ubuntu since its Live CD was the only one that allowed my HP laptop's audio to work "out of the box". As for old brains, well after 3 strokes, I am lucky my younger brain still works. I think "healthy exercise" for the brain is important, whether you are in you 40's or 80's. My wife has end-stage Alzheimer's and I really know the importance in keeping you mind as active as you can to help reduce the effects of age on your mental abilities. I am a little "slower" in doing things due to an illness that just will not go away, but I am learning to live with it, just like learning to live with what the strokes left me to work with. On 01/24/2015 08:55 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: Frank, Thank you very much for your soon reply -- I was just working on the installations. The printer seems to be working on the Windows so let us hope it will work OK with the VirtualBox&Ubuntu too. Earlier 10-15years ago I used Windows&Ubuntu parallell but then I had to rebuild my PC completely and for some reason never installed the Ubuntu again - perhaps too complicated -- but I never gave up the idea skipping windows. Now I re-installed system&programs again and decided to start working with Ubuntu again. Next step is to learn using Apache&SQLite for my need of databases. I used to work with MSAccess but am not interested in spending money on purchasing and was told that SQLite is easier and not so heavy as MySQL. Do not know yet. Anyway I find this interesting and think it is a healthy exercise for an old brain too (75y) So any guides and ideas how I shall proceed to get SQLite(3) to run in Ubuntu are welcome. Kind regards Pertti Rönnberg On 24.1.2015 14:22, CVAlkan wrote: Pertti: If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a Virtual Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by the host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host system (and you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu. The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you have no issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you should be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything. Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux distro just to use SQLite and Apache? Or was there some other consideration driving that choice? Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137269.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Is there any need to have Linux in a VirtualBox or could you just boot to Linux on your computer - as a dual booting one? I run laptops with Win7 [pro and home] with Ubuntu on one and Linux Mint on another. There are some things I need to run on Windows, that are easier to use than any Linux counterpart. But my default booting for these laptops is Linux. I went to Linux as my default OS in the Spring of 2010 , when I bought this desktop. I originally was using Linux before that on "spare" system when the cost of buying the needed software using Windows was getting too much for my budget. I found the needed software "functions and applications" for free with Linux [Ubuntu and others]. Actually I defaulted to Ubuntu since its Live CD was the only one that allowed my HP laptop's audio to work "out of the box". As for old brains, well after 3 strokes, I am lucky my younger brain still works. I think "healthy exercise" for the brain is important, whether you are in you 40's or 80's. My wife has end-stage Alzheimer's and I really know the importance in keeping you mind as active as you can to help reduce the effects of age on your mental abilities. I am a little "slower" in doing things due to an illness that just will not go away, but I am learning to live with it, just like learning to live with what the strokes left me to work with. On 01/24/2015 08:55 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: Frank, Thank you very much for your soon reply -- I was just working on the installations. The printer seems to be working on the Windows so let us hope it will work OK with the VirtualBox&Ubuntu too. Earlier 10-15years ago I used Windows&Ubuntu parallell but then I had to rebuild my PC completely and for some reason never installed the Ubuntu again - perhaps too complicated -- but I never gave up the idea skipping windows. Now I re-installed system&programs again and decided to start working with Ubuntu again. Next step is to learn using Apache&SQLite for my need of databases. I used to work with MSAccess but am not interested in spending money on purchasing and was told that SQLite is easier and not so heavy as MySQL. Do not know yet. Anyway I find this interesting and think it is a healthy exercise for an old brain too (75y) So any guides and ideas how I shall proceed to get SQLite(3) to run in Ubuntu are welcome. Kind regards Pertti Rönnberg On 24.1.2015 14:22, CVAlkan wrote: Pertti: If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a Virtual Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by the host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host system (and you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu. The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you have no issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you should be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything. Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux distro just to use SQLite and Apache? Or was there some other consideration driving that choice? Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137269.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Hi Pertti: I also am one of the old crowd, so I understand. The database question is probably going quite off-topic (although still part of this forum), so I'll just make a few comments. The first is that, since you are already running LibreOffice, can I presume that you've looked at its "Base" component. If you notice, there are lots of discussions about that on this forum, so you should have little problem getting answers to most questions. The manuals for all the components of LibreOffice are also available for free download, so that is a plus as well. I personally don't use Base, as I'm an old database person and prefer to use "real" database management products. Although most of these cost actual money, a few of them have free personal-use products. If you go to http://www.antikytherapubs.com/ and click on the "Oracle Installation Tutorial for 64 bit Ubuntu" you'll find a pdf I put together on how to acquire, load, and use Oracle XE (the personal version) on Ubuntu (it's actually intended for Red Hat Linux, but isn't at all difficult to get running on Ubuntu). If you're looking to "dig in" to relational theory and all that good stuff, Oracle is a much better choice than some of the "personal" products out there. Good Luck keeping the brain cells functioning, and let us know how the Printer situation turns out ... Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137319.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Frank, Thank you very much for your soon reply -- I was just working on the installations. The printer seems to be working on the Windows so let us hope it will work OK with the VirtualBox&Ubuntu too. Earlier 10-15years ago I used Windows&Ubuntu parallell but then I had to rebuild my PC completely and for some reason never installed the Ubuntu again - perhaps too complicated -- but I never gave up the idea skipping windows. Now I re-installed system&programs again and decided to start working with Ubuntu again. Next step is to learn using Apache&SQLite for my need of databases. I used to work with MSAccess but am not interested in spending money on purchasing and was told that SQLite is easier and not so heavy as MySQL. Do not know yet. Anyway I find this interesting and think it is a healthy exercise for an old brain too (75y) So any guides and ideas how I shall proceed to get SQLite(3) to run in Ubuntu are welcome. Kind regards Pertti Rönnberg On 24.1.2015 14:22, CVAlkan wrote: Pertti: If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a Virtual Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by the host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host system (and you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu. The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you have no issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you should be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything. Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux distro just to use SQLite and Apache? Or was there some other consideration driving that choice? Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137269.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Pertti: If you are running Ubuntu (or anything else as far as I know) in a Virtual Box, you don't have access to any hardware unless it is recognized by the host system. But if your printer functions properly on the host system (and you set up virtualbox carefully), it should work fine on Ubuntu. The issues I encounter all seem to be related to LOWriter, so if you have no issues with that on your host, it seems to me fairly likely that you should be ok. In any case, if it doesn't work you haven't lost anything. Just as a matter of curiosity, are you looking to a linux distro just to use SQLite and Apache? Or was there some other consideration driving that choice? Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137269.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Good afternoon, My PC's OS is windows 7prof.-64bit (where LO 4.3.4.1) My intention is to (again try to) convert to Linux and shall now install Ubuntu (vers. 14.04.1 ready on a DVD) in a virtualbox and use that for creating database applications with SQLite(3) (& Apache & PHP) and expect having LO/Base as a front end. Am I to understand from this thread that I am getting printing problems with Linux in such an installation? If so, what version of Ubuntu is then safe and reliable? My printer is a KonicaMinolta magicolor 1600w. Grateful for any advice Pertti Rönnberg On 23.1.2015 11:33, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I almost always have at least 4 partitions; 1 for swap, 1 for /home or just to put my data on and 2 to have different distros or different versions of the same distro on. On some machines i multi-boot between half a dozen different versions of Ubuntu (but always intend to clean it up down to just 2 or 3). Regards from Tom :) On 22 January 2015 at 17:40, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Yes, I agree with you, BUT. . . When I upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu via the Update Manager system, I get a message about CUPS being depreciated and no longer used. So it is Removed from the upgraded system. That is when I have to reinstall it, along with my CUPS-PDF package. Of course that package gives the depreciated message as well, but I know of no other PDF file printer for Ubuntu either. On 01/22/2015 09:20 AM, CVAlkan wrote: Tom: CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could get along without it. It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though). If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed). If you need to install it separately, you can download it from http://www.cups.org/software.php. I hope this helps ... Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Hi :) I almost always have at least 4 partitions; 1 for swap, 1 for /home or just to put my data on and 2 to have different distros or different versions of the same distro on. On some machines i multi-boot between half a dozen different versions of Ubuntu (but always intend to clean it up down to just 2 or 3). Regards from Tom :) On 22 January 2015 at 17:40, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: > > Yes, I agree with you, BUT. . . > When I upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu via the Update Manager system, I > get a message about CUPS being depreciated and no longer used. So it is > Removed from the upgraded system. That is when I have to reinstall it, > along with my CUPS-PDF package. Of course that package gives the > depreciated message as well, but I know of no other PDF file printer for > Ubuntu either. > > > > > > > On 01/22/2015 09:20 AM, CVAlkan wrote: >> >> Tom: >> >> CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could >> get along without it. >> >> It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed >> by >> default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot >> though). >> If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you >> might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed). >> >> If you need to install it separately, you can download it from >> http://www.cups.org/software.php. >> >> I hope this helps ... >> >> Frank >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html >> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Yes, I agree with you, BUT. . . When I upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu via the Update Manager system, I get a message about CUPS being depreciated and no longer used. So it is Removed from the upgraded system. That is when I have to reinstall it, along with my CUPS-PDF package. Of course that package gives the depreciated message as well, but I know of no other PDF file printer for Ubuntu either. On 01/22/2015 09:20 AM, CVAlkan wrote: Tom: CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could get along without it. It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though). If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed). If you need to install it separately, you can download it from http://www.cups.org/software.php. I hope this helps ... Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
On 01/22/2015 11:03 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I do not know if you can multi-boot two different versions of Ubuntu based distro, or so I was told a few years ago. I'm pretty sure I have done so in the past, but not doing so now. Wouldn't it be more convenient to install 13.10 in a VirtualBox? Then you could just open it when you need it instead of having to boot to a particular Ubuntu. Reagrds, Jim Be nice to have 13.10 for my photo printing on my default photo printer and 14.04LTS or newer for the rest of the work. As someone told me - off list - CUPS should be installed with the distro, but in my experience not all of the versions I have installed do so until you need it for a "dependency" for a printer driver. On 01/21/2015 01:19 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Ahh, mostly the Ubuntu's at work are 14.04. So i might have a try at a LiveUsb or multi-boot with an earlier version alongside the existing set-ups or something. Thanks Tim ! :) Errr, i think the drivers and apps and such are still called CUPS but i think the forums and websites retired didn't they? Is there somewhere such as LinuxPrinting.Org? I might have to have more of a look tomorrow or sometime. Thanks so far and regards from Tom :) On 21 January 2015 at 13:37, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 01/21/2015 08:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues. I gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know what has replaced it. I do not know what is the replacement to CUPS, since every drive I use for Ubuntu and Mint needs CUPS. SO, I install in "manually" via the standard package manager for the distro. My default "printer" is the CUPS PDF "system". That way I have not accidental printing to any specialized printer that I have on my network, which saves paper and ink. At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all. With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and now people have no problems using Kubuntu. Printing to the photocopier or the B&W laser printer is fine. The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of them seem to work. Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around. Which version are you using for Ubuntu-based OS? I have some Canon printers no longer work properly when Ubuntu 14.04 came out. Needed dependencies not longer we supported by 14.04, but was supported by 13.10. Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the B&W photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope. I have no idea how to find the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu ones. Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Hi :) Brilliant! Thanks :) I use Nabble and can hardly ever find anything from the archives. So, that's another win for the news-groups vs pretty gui styles. Suddenly got a lot of other printers giving me a bit of grief but they should be quick fixes - Such as i didn't realise the foam rollers (about 1-3cm long) need occasional dusting to help avoid paper-jams. 1 at the front and 2 hidden up inside where the paper-tray goes. So this is already on a back-burner for now and it might even be a week before i can try to tackle it again! Anyway, so many thanks to everyone who has answered, incl Tim Lloyd off-list link to this ancient thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/printer-driver-oki-c810-523af2-ubuntu12-04-kernel-3-2-0-34-generic-pae-4175440032/ Regards from Tom :) On 22 January 2015 at 15:44, Jim Byrnes wrote: > On 01/22/2015 08:57 AM, Tom Davies wrote: >> >> Hi :) >> Thanks :) I'm trying to find a forum or somewhere i can ask questions. >> >> Someone off-list gave me a link to a thread at linuxquestions.org and >> that has given me a couple of things to check up on. However i was >> hoping for a way of reaching people who have specialised in printing >> issues or have some expertise or special interest. LinuxQuestions is >> a bit too generic. >> >> Is there a forum at the Cups website? I thought there used to be one >> but i can't find one now. >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> > > Tom, > > I read this group using gmane, so I searched it for cups and got 7 hits, > including comp.printing.cups.general and comp.sysutils.apcupsd.user. > > Maybe they will be useful to you. > > Regards, Jim > > >> >> On 22 January 2015 at 14:20, CVAlkan wrote: >>> >>> Tom: >>> >>> CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could >>> get along without it. >>> >>> It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed >>> by >>> default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot >>> though). >>> If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions >>> you >>> might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed). >>> >>> If you need to install it separately, you can download it from >>> http://www.cups.org/software.php. >>> >>> I hope this helps ... >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html >>> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >>> deleted >>> >> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
On 01/22/2015 08:57 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Thanks :) I'm trying to find a forum or somewhere i can ask questions. Someone off-list gave me a link to a thread at linuxquestions.org and that has given me a couple of things to check up on. However i was hoping for a way of reaching people who have specialised in printing issues or have some expertise or special interest. LinuxQuestions is a bit too generic. Is there a forum at the Cups website? I thought there used to be one but i can't find one now. Regards from Tom :) Tom, I read this group using gmane, so I searched it for cups and got 7 hits, including comp.printing.cups.general and comp.sysutils.apcupsd.user. Maybe they will be useful to you. Regards, Jim On 22 January 2015 at 14:20, CVAlkan wrote: Tom: CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could get along without it. It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though). If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed). If you need to install it separately, you can download it from http://www.cups.org/software.php. I hope this helps ... Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Hi :) Thanks :) I'm trying to find a forum or somewhere i can ask questions. Someone off-list gave me a link to a thread at linuxquestions.org and that has given me a couple of things to check up on. However i was hoping for a way of reaching people who have specialised in printing issues or have some expertise or special interest. LinuxQuestions is a bit too generic. Is there a forum at the Cups website? I thought there used to be one but i can't find one now. Regards from Tom :) On 22 January 2015 at 14:20, CVAlkan wrote: > Tom: > > CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could > get along without it. > > It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by > default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though). > If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you > might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed). > > If you need to install it separately, you can download it from > http://www.cups.org/software.php. > > I hope this helps ... > > Frank > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu
Tom: CUPS still seems to be alive and well; in fact, I'm not sure how we could get along without it. It is listed in the Ubuntu repository, although has always been installed by default on any installation I've done (admittedly, not a whole lot though). If you use the Software Center, make sure to check any other additions you might require (I have everything but OpenPrinting installed). If you need to install it separately, you can download it from http://www.cups.org/software.php. I hope this helps ... Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Printing-from-Linux-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-tp4136908p4137067.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
