Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
So, using adjectives = disguis[ing] the fact? Interesting. Evidently, German is the only non-disguised language (and chile relleno con carne asada should really be chilerellenoconcarneasada, and it's English translation shouldn't be stufffed peppers with grilled beef* but stuffedpepperswithgrilledbeef; yeah, good luck with that). *Yes, I know that carne is technically meat, not beef; lo se. However, it's almost exclusively used for beef, since other meats would be specified (e.g., pollo asado), so I went with beef as a more accurate translation in this case. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2014, Doug wrote: On 05/23/2014 02:53 AM, David Love wrote: MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: The longest word in any English language is the name of a small town in Wales - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyantysiliogogogoch (see Wikipedia if you're curious about what and where this is). I had thought it was 56 letters, but this one is 59. Hmm. Sorry, that's the second longest. The longest is in the North Island of New Zealand. Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturi pukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu (85 letters) which means The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long_place_names David I would have to say that the big word above is not English. German is a language where there really _are_ long words in the language, since German, much more than English, strings words together to make longer ones. We have things like fireplace and carwash. (Fireplace translates directly: Feuerplatz.) If you ask the average German what is the longest word, he is likely to tell you, Oberweserdampfschiffahrtgeschäftskapitän which also happens to be the name of a song! (Perhaps the word was invented by the songwriter?) Translating, it means the Upper Weser excursion boat company captain. But my German teacher, eons ago, told me about a word of 100 letters, involving a a miscreant Hottentot from Trödelstadt who was jailed in a latticework kangaroo cage for killing his mother-in-law. I suppose it might actually have existed, back when Germany had a presence in Africa. --doug we do it too in English but disguise the fact. we write airport parking garage manager instead of airportparkinggaragemanager. F. -- Felmon Davis -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- --- Thomas Wicker Durham, NC, USA Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest. -- Mark Twain -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: The longest word in any English language is the name of a small town in Wales - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyantysiliogogogoch (see Wikipedia if you're curious about what and where this is). I had thought it was 56 letters, but this one is 59. Hmm. Sorry, that's the second longest. The longest is in the North Island of New Zealand. Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu (85 letters) which means The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long_place_names David -- David Love Dogs think they are human. Cats believe they are God -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
The place names referenced are indeed used in English speaking countries, but it ought to be borne in mind that the small town's name is actually not an English word, bet a Welsh one (Welsh being a Celtic language) the one from New Zealand is actually Mauri, rather than English. ~ George On 05/23/2014 02:53 AM, David Love wrote: MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: The longest word in any English language is the name of a small town in Wales - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyantysiliogogogoch (see Wikipedia if you're curious about what and where this is). I had thought it was 56 letters, but this one is 59. Hmm. Sorry, that's the second longest. The longest is in the North Island of New Zealand. Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu (85 letters) which means The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long_place_names David -- George E Noon ge.n...@verizon.net noongeo...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
On Thu, 22 May 2014 13:59:54 -0500 anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Hello anne-ology, Keith- whose name disproves the i before e rule Apparently, that rule is not taught in English schools any more as there are more word with I after E than t'other way round. At least, according to QI. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent No you can't hop into my shower Leave Me Alone (I'm Lonely) - P!nk -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
On 05/22/2014 12:10 PM, Urmas wrote: Kracked_P_P---webmaster: There are 797866 lines in the .dic file with the top one the number of words. Due to the author's error, it is shipped unmunched. In the proper form it contains 476898 entries, probably even less if some wordforms are missing. That is close to 70% misrepresentation. What do you mean by the term unmunched? Never heard of that term in relation to a .dic file. I explained before that each form of a word is truly a word of its own, so the figure is correct. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
On 05/23/2014 02:53 AM, David Love wrote: MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: The longest word in any English language is the name of a small town in Wales - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyantysiliogogogoch (see Wikipedia if you're curious about what and where this is). I had thought it was 56 letters, but this one is 59. Hmm. Sorry, that's the second longest. The longest is in the North Island of New Zealand. Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu (85 letters) which means The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long_place_names David I would have to say that the big word above is not English. German is a language where there really _are_ long words in the language, since German, much more than English, strings words together to make longer ones. We have things like fireplace and carwash. (Fireplace translates directly: Feuerplatz.) If you ask the average German what is the longest word, he is likely to tell you, Oberweserdampfschiffahrtgeschäftskapitän which also happens to be the name of a song! (Perhaps the word was invented by the songwriter?) Translating, it means the Upper Weser excursion boat company captain. But my German teacher, eons ago, told me about a word of 100 letters, involving a a miscreant Hottentot from Trödelstadt who was jailed in a latticework kangaroo cage for killing his mother-in-law. I suppose it might actually have existed, back when Germany had a presence in Africa. --doug -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
On Fri, 23 May 2014, Doug wrote: On 05/23/2014 02:53 AM, David Love wrote: MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: The longest word in any English language is the name of a small town in Wales - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyantysiliogogogoch (see Wikipedia if you're curious about what and where this is). I had thought it was 56 letters, but this one is 59. Hmm. Sorry, that's the second longest. The longest is in the North Island of New Zealand. Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu (85 letters) which means The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_long_place_names David I would have to say that the big word above is not English. German is a language where there really _are_ long words in the language, since German, much more than English, strings words together to make longer ones. We have things like fireplace and carwash. (Fireplace translates directly: Feuerplatz.) If you ask the average German what is the longest word, he is likely to tell you, Oberweserdampfschiffahrtgeschäftskapitän which also happens to be the name of a song! (Perhaps the word was invented by the songwriter?) Translating, it means the Upper Weser excursion boat company captain. But my German teacher, eons ago, told me about a word of 100 letters, involving a a miscreant Hottentot from Trödelstadt who was jailed in a latticework kangaroo cage for killing his mother-in-law. I suppose it might actually have existed, back when Germany had a presence in Africa. --doug we do it too in English but disguise the fact. we write airport parking garage manager instead of airportparkinggaragemanager. F. -- Felmon Davis -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
On 05/22/2014 12:10 PM, Urmas wrote: Kracked_P_P---webmaster: There are 797866 lines in the .dic file with the top one the number of words. Due to the author's error, it is shipped unmunched. In the proper form it contains 476898 entries, probably even less if some wordforms are missing. That is close to 70% misrepresentation. I don't know how spell-check dictionaries are usually compared but, to me, it would make sense to count each form as a separate word. It may be more efficient in use to compress the dictionary into a smaller number of entries, but if there's a single entry encoding 4 forms of the same root word, I'd count that as 4 words. Otherwise, a dictionary containing 10 words but only the root word of each would seem just as good as a dictionary containing the same 10 root words plus all the variations encoded into each entry. Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: What do you mean by the term unmunched? munch /mʌntʃ/ verb (used with object) 1. to chew with steady or vigorous working of the jaws, often audibly. ... Related forms un·munched, adjective (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unmunched - I didn't swallow the dictionary, munched or otherwise) Never heard of that term in relation to a .dic file. Since a .dic file doesn't strike me as being particularly tasty, nor useful after chewing, perhaps we should be glad that it is unmunched. (FWIW, neither LibreOffice nor SeaMonkey recognises 'unmunched'...) Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On 5/21/2014 9:33 PM, Brian Barker wrote: Since when have homophones been a problem? I'm reminded of the sentence, Write a letter to Mrs. Wright, right now. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
There are 797866 lines in the .dic file with the top one the number of words. The rest of the lines are one word each. The .dic file treats each line, except the first, as an individual word. Each line is a correct spelling of a word. The first part of the list are the capitalized words and the rest are the lowercased ones. timed and timing are two forms of a single root word and are not considered the same word as time. If you create a word list of a document, for all of the words used, time, timed, and timing, are three individually listed words. Just because they share the same root word does not mean they are the same word. Also, for a spell checker, a word that has the first letter uppercased and a word with that same letter lowercased are treated differently. When not as the first word in a sentence, there are words that are allowed, or even need the first letter to be uppercased, while other will be misspelled if the first letter is uppercased. That is defined in the spell checking .dic file. You can either take a word and list each version or you can figure out all the control options to follow that word so it would also define all of those prefixed and suffixed versions of that word. Since I do not know those control codes, I listed each form or version of the word out in the list so I could also give a good word count. So the 797,865 words in the .dic file is correct. Would you like to deal with my unpublished 3,068,588 word .dic file that has even more versions and correct spellings of en_US words? This contains many, many, suffix and prefix versions that are rarely seen but technically spelled correctly. I just created that version to see how massive it could go. But, I will not publish it as a single dictionary. It would be divided up into common and rare files to be enabled/disabled as the user would choose. For now, the spell checking extension project is not going to be continued till a lot of other projects are finished - LO projects and many more non-LO projects. On 05/21/2014 03:20 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It's interesting that i believed it until i saw who posted it. Now i have no idea but think it's unlikely. I could believe the US trying to dumb things or be less confusing by removing words so that people have fewer to choose from. Regards from Tom :) On 21 May 2014 18:09, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Kracked_P_P---webmaster: I might suggest he try the en_US dictionary that contains over 797 thousand words in its list, That dictionary contains just 476898 words actually. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
yes, there are homonyms in the English language - which allows for puns; a concept which many languages do not understand, yet adds humour to others ;-) I've always enjoyed the pun; still do. Now, for a bit of English grammar history: it's derived from the Latin Greek - as were the Romantic Germanic languages; spelling was not initially formalized due to this conglomeration, so the idea of a dictionary came about; Samuel Johnson wrote his formal dictionary; then in the 19C, things were still informal, so the idea for the OxfordEnglishDictionary was formed; then Daniel Webster decided to write his dictionary excluding the niceties in spelling of the OED because he wanted to eliminate 'the British' from the language ;-) BTW - Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (Lewis Carroll), others, had some interesting bits re. this continual squabble between the British the States; his Jabberwocky is a gem of a poem. Just a bit of trivia for y'all ;-) From: Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com Date: Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary To: users@global.libreoffice.org English sucks as a language anyway. It's a conglomeration of words grafted on from many other real languages that mostly still adhere to the rules of the original language. The result is that English has no consistent rules without the ever present, Except, word. This paragraph contains one of the prime examples. I almost all cases adding apostrophe s on the end of a word denotes ownership, i.e. Tom's car, but to indicate ownership with the word it the 's' is added without the apostrophe. Of course its could also indicate multiple quantities of its. Then there are words like disgruntled. Has anyone ever been gruntled? Then too as in also, two as in one more then one, and to as in where you are going. There's lead as in the heavy metal, lead as in being shown the way, lead as in showing the way. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Wow, yours is impressive! I merely studied French ... Latin Greek ... then when I took a calligraphy course, Chinese - but that went 'in 1 ear out the other'; I have no idea what I actually said while writing those bits of calligraphy ;-) Whenever I attempt to speak Spanish, or Italian, the French takes over ?!?!?! yet I can say hello, goodbye, please, thank you, how are you, in those languages + German, Chinese, Japanese, Hebrew, Arabic ;-) How about the rest of you on this list? From: Keith Bates ke...@new-life.org.au Date: Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary To: users@global.libreoffice.org An anti-English troll- that's a new one for this list. :) I can't say that I've studied every language in the world, but I did study French, New Testament Greek and Ancient Hebrew. Guess what? They ALL have weird rules, exceptions and strange words. This would be due to the fact that languages are mostly used by humans who can be a little bit creative. I studied some rigidly conformist languages but they were rather dull. As far as I know there is no equivalent for I love you in BASIC, FORTRAN or C++ Keith- whose name disproves the i before e rule On 22/05/14 10:37, Mark LaPierre wrote: English sucks as a language anyway. It's a conglomeration of words grafted on from many other real languages that mostly still adhere to the rules of the original language. The result is that English has no consistent rules without the ever present, Except, word. This paragraph contains one of the prime examples. I almost all cases adding apostrophe s on the end of a word denotes ownership, i.e. Tom's car, but to indicate ownership with the word it the 's' is added without the apostrophe. Of course its could also indicate multiple quantities of its. Then there are words like disgruntled. Has anyone ever been gruntled? Then too as in also, two as in one more then one, and to as in where you are going. There's lead as in the heavy metal, lead as in being shown the way, lead as in showing the way. -- God bless you Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
reminds me of and the longest word in the English language is ... or is it supercalifragilisticespialidocious ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFHXMQP-QU From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary To: users@global.libreoffice.org There are 797866 lines in the .dic file with the top one the number of words. The rest of the lines are one word each. The .dic file treats each line, except the first, as an individual word. Each line is a correct spelling of a word. The first part of the list are the capitalized words and the rest are the lowercased ones. timed and timing are two forms of a single root word and are not considered the same word as time. If you create a word list of a document, for all of the words used, time, timed, and timing, are three individually listed words. Just because they share the same root word does not mean they are the same word. Also, for a spell checker, a word that has the first letter uppercased and a word with that same letter lowercased are treated differently. When not as the first word in a sentence, there are words that are allowed, or even need the first letter to be uppercased, while other will be misspelled if the first letter is uppercased. That is defined in the spell checking .dic file. You can either take a word and list each version or you can figure out all the control options to follow that word so it would also define all of those prefixed and suffixed versions of that word. Since I do not know those control codes, I listed each form or version of the word out in the list so I could also give a good word count. So the 797,865 words in the .dic file is correct. Would you like to deal with my unpublished 3,068,588 word .dic file that has even more versions and correct spellings of en_US words? This contains many, many, suffix and prefix versions that are rarely seen but technically spelled correctly. I just created that version to see how massive it could go. But, I will not publish it as a single dictionary. It would be divided up into common and rare files to be enabled/disabled as the user would choose. For now, the spell checking extension project is not going to be continued till a lot of other projects are finished - LO projects and many more non-LO projects. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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There are two answers. The longest word in any English language is the name of a small town in Wales - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyantysiliogogogoch (see Wikipedia if you're curious about what and where this is). I had thought it was 56 letters, but this one is 59. Hmm. The longest word in American English is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, aka black lung disease. It is 45 letters. There is a longer word, which is the 85 letter long name of a village in Africa, but I don't know what that one is (and I'm too lazy to Google it right now :-). FWIW. MR On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:11 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: reminds me of and the longest word in the English language is ... or is it supercalifragilisticespialidocious ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFHXMQP-QU -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Perhaps a bit off the track: I learned somewhere that the longest English word is smiles. Why? There is a mile between the first and the last letter :-) Kolbjoern Den 22.05.2014 22:21, skreiv MR ZenWiz: There are two answers. The longest word in any English language is the name of a small town in Wales - Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyantysiliogogogoch (see Wikipedia if you're curious about what and where this is). I had thought it was 56 letters, but this one is 59. Hmm. The longest word in American English is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, aka black lung disease. It is 45 letters. There is a longer word, which is the 85 letter long name of a village in Africa, but I don't know what that one is (and I'm too lazy to Google it right now :-). FWIW. MR On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:11 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: reminds me of and the longest word in the English language is ... or is it supercalifragilisticespialidocious ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFHXMQP-QU -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Kracked_P_P---webmaster: There are 797866 lines in the .dic file with the top one the number of words. Due to the author's error, it is shipped unmunched. In the proper form it contains 476898 entries, probably even less if some wordforms are missing. That is close to 70% misrepresentation. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
On Thu, 22 May 2014, anne-ology wrote: yes, there are homonyms in the English language - which allows for puns; a concept which many languages do not understand, yet adds humour to others ;-) I've always enjoyed the pun; still do. Now, for a bit of English grammar history: it's derived from the Latin Greek - as were the Romantic Germanic languages; the Germanic languages were not derived from Latin and Greek, they are a separate branch of Indo-European. however Germanic languages were also influenced by Latin and then French as English was. in German people (at least of a certain generation) sometimes say a word derived from Latin and add in German - the Latinate word sounds a bit fancy, the German near-equivalent sounds more 'down-to-earth'. but they don't seem to have our category of 'four-letter words which, btw, are sometimes anglo-saxon (Germanic) words like 'ficken' or 'scheisse'. (there is one word my partner forbids me to say though.) anyway, yes, language is fun. back to our regularly scheduled OT. F. spelling was not initially formalized due to this conglomeration, so the idea of a dictionary came about; Samuel Johnson wrote his formal dictionary; then in the 19C, things were still informal, so the idea for the OxfordEnglishDictionary was formed; then Daniel Webster decided to write his dictionary excluding the niceties in spelling of the OED because he wanted to eliminate 'the British' from the language ;-) BTW - Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (Lewis Carroll), others, had some interesting bits re. this continual squabble between the British the States; his Jabberwocky is a gem of a poem. Just a bit of trivia for y'all ;-) From: Mark LaPierre marklap...@aol.com Date: Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary To: users@global.libreoffice.org English sucks as a language anyway. It's a conglomeration of words grafted on from many other real languages that mostly still adhere to the rules of the original language. The result is that English has no consistent rules without the ever present, Except, word. This paragraph contains one of the prime examples. I almost all cases adding apostrophe s on the end of a word denotes ownership, i.e. Tom's car, but to indicate ownership with the word it the 's' is added without the apostrophe. Of course its could also indicate multiple quantities of its. Then there are words like disgruntled. Has anyone ever been gruntled? Then too as in also, two as in one more then one, and to as in where you are going. There's lead as in the heavy metal, lead as in being shown the way, lead as in showing the way. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Felmon Davis All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. -- Sean O'Casey -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
Kracked_P_P---webmaster: I might suggest he try the en_US dictionary that contains over 797 thousand words in its list, That dictionary contains just 476898 words actually. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
Hi :) It's interesting that i believed it until i saw who posted it. Now i have no idea but think it's unlikely. I could believe the US trying to dumb things or be less confusing by removing words so that people have fewer to choose from. Regards from Tom :) On 21 May 2014 18:09, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Kracked_P_P---webmaster: I might suggest he try the en_US dictionary that contains over 797 thousand words in its list, That dictionary contains just 476898 words actually. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
On 05/21/14 15:20, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It's interesting that i believed it until i saw who posted it. Now i have no idea but think it's unlikely. I could believe the US trying to dumb things or be less confusing by removing words so that people have fewer to choose from. Regards from Tom :) On 21 May 2014 18:09, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Kracked_P_P---webmaster: I might suggest he try the en_US dictionary that contains over 797 thousand words in its list, That dictionary contains just 476898 words actually. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted English sucks as a language anyway. It's a conglomeration of words grafted on from many other real languages that mostly still adhere to the rules of the original language. The result is that English has no consistent rules without the ever present, Except, word. This paragraph contains one of the prime examples. I almost all cases adding apostrophe s on the end of a word denotes ownership, i.e. Tom's car, but to indicate ownership with the word it the 's' is added without the apostrophe. Of course its could also indicate multiple quantities of its. Then there are words like disgruntled. Has anyone ever been gruntled? Then too as in also, two as in one more then one, and to as in where you are going. There's lead as in the heavy metal, lead as in being shown the way, lead as in showing the way. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
An anti-English troll- that's a new one for this list. :) I can't say that I've studied every language in the world, but I did study French, New Testament Greek and Ancient Hebrew. Guess what? They ALL have weird rules, exceptions and strange words. This would be due to the fact that languages are mostly used by humans who can be a little bit creative. I studied some rigidly conformist languages but they were rather dull. As far as I know there is no equivalent for I love you in BASIC, FORTRAN or C++ Keith- whose name disproves the i before e rule On 22/05/14 10:37, Mark LaPierre wrote: English sucks as a language anyway. It's a conglomeration of words grafted on from many other real languages that mostly still adhere to the rules of the original language. The result is that English has no consistent rules without the ever present, Except, word. This paragraph contains one of the prime examples. I almost all cases adding apostrophe s on the end of a word denotes ownership, i.e. Tom's car, but to indicate ownership with the word it the 's' is added without the apostrophe. Of course its could also indicate multiple quantities of its. Then there are words like disgruntled. Has anyone ever been gruntled? Then too as in also, two as in one more then one, and to as in where you are going. There's lead as in the heavy metal, lead as in being shown the way, lead as in showing the way. -- God bless you Keith Bates 4 Mooloobar St Narrabri Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Spell Check Dictionary
At 20:37 21/05/2014 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: In almost all cases adding apostrophe s on the end of a word denotes ownership, i.e. Tom's car, .. With nouns and proper nouns, yes. (Actually grammatical possession, not ownership: Tom may own Tom's car but Tom does not own Tom's home town!) ... but to indicate ownership with the word it the 's' is added without the apostrophe. That's no exception: it is not a noun but a pronoun. You would no more put an apostrophe in the corresponding possessive pronoun its than you would write m'y our you'r or hi's or he'r or ou'r or thei'r! Of course its could also indicate multiple quantities of its. No: two its are a them. Then there are words like disgruntled. Has anyone ever been gruntled? No, but they have gruntled - that is, made little grunts. And dis- here is an intensifier, not a negator. Then too as in also, two as in one more then one, and to as in where you are going. Since when have homophones been a problem? There's lead as in the heavy metal, lead as in being shown the way, lead as in showing the way. Since when have homographs been a problem? (Oh, and that middle example should be led anyway!) Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
