[libreoffice-users] Re: Ubuntu Fax Driver Search

2011-12-15 Thread Alan Greenberger
On 2011-12-15, Arthur N. Dunning III  wrote:
> In my case, the modem I use is a USRobotics USR5637 USB modem. It's 
> compatible with Windows, Mac and Linux. The Linux distro that I'm using 
> is Ubuntu 11.10.
>
> Arthur
>
> **
>
> On 12/14/2011 07:23 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
>
> I know that exist, but I did not know which ones were Linux capable.
>
>

Assuming Ubuntu is not automatically doing this for you, you need to
run:
/sbin/modprobe usbserial vendor=0x product=0x
replacing  and  for the USR's values.  Then you can use the efax
program to send and receive with the modem from LO.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ubuntu Fax Driver Search

2011-12-10 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 12/10/2011 08:57 AM, Simos Xenitellis wrote:

On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:36 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<
webmas...@krackedpress.com>  wrote:


I never was able to get Ubuntu to work with either my PCI fax cards or the
ones built into my laptops.  I know that if you have a fax card working
with its printer driver package, you can use it like a paper printer,
except it asked for the fax numbers and such, then "prints" the document as
a fax.  With that fax printing driver/software package installed, you could
fax a web page or email printout to someone, buy why would you.  Any
software package that allows you to choose your printers and have access to
the fax options, can be faxed.

I gave up on my efforts for Ubuntu faxing and the newest printer I bought
has a fax machine built into it.

Actually I once used eFax [the company] for sending and receiving of a few
fax documents, but I rarely used it.  I sent 3 or 4 faxes in 2011 so far,
to those companies that will not give out an email address for sending the
documents via it.  SO faxing is no longer something most people need
anymore.  Some businesses, yes, while others do not.


There is an issue with modems and Linux in general. The biggest problem is
that most of these are soft modems, which require software that is not free
and open-source. Specifically, for a big range of these soft-modems you
need to have a working kernel module that relates to the sound card (Alsa),
and then you need to have the slmodem package. slmodem contains a
closed-source binary 32-bit library which does not work on 64-bit Linux.

What I think is easier to implement is better support in LibreOffice,
probably through extensions, for the use of Internet FAX services. Like an
open-source version of
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/efax
Alternatively, this support should be added to CUPS (printing subsystem in
Linux) or Hylafax (FAX server).

Simos



Yes, you can do Internet based fax services, but you would want to find 
a free one.  Last time I looked, it costs a monthly fee after your first 
trial month or two.  I think most people would prefer not having to deal 
with another service fee, if they do few faxes each year.  Most bigger 
businesses use a fax/printer connected to the network for their fax 
needs.  The smaller ones print out the fax and use the standard fax 
machine type of device and keep the printed copy for their records, 
adding the date when it was sent off.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ubuntu Fax Driver Search

2011-12-10 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:36 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions <
webmas...@krackedpress.com> wrote:

>
> I never was able to get Ubuntu to work with either my PCI fax cards or the
> ones built into my laptops.  I know that if you have a fax card working
> with its printer driver package, you can use it like a paper printer,
> except it asked for the fax numbers and such, then "prints" the document as
> a fax.  With that fax printing driver/software package installed, you could
> fax a web page or email printout to someone, buy why would you.  Any
> software package that allows you to choose your printers and have access to
> the fax options, can be faxed.
>
> I gave up on my efforts for Ubuntu faxing and the newest printer I bought
> has a fax machine built into it.
>
> Actually I once used eFax [the company] for sending and receiving of a few
> fax documents, but I rarely used it.  I sent 3 or 4 faxes in 2011 so far,
> to those companies that will not give out an email address for sending the
> documents via it.  SO faxing is no longer something most people need
> anymore.  Some businesses, yes, while others do not.


There is an issue with modems and Linux in general. The biggest problem is
that most of these are soft modems, which require software that is not free
and open-source. Specifically, for a big range of these soft-modems you
need to have a working kernel module that relates to the sound card (Alsa),
and then you need to have the slmodem package. slmodem contains a
closed-source binary 32-bit library which does not work on 64-bit Linux.

What I think is easier to implement is better support in LibreOffice,
probably through extensions, for the use of Internet FAX services. Like an
open-source version of
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/efax
Alternatively, this support should be added to CUPS (printing subsystem in
Linux) or Hylafax (FAX server).

Simos


>
> On 12/09/2011 09:20 PM, NoOp wrote:
>
>> On 12/09/2011 03:44 PM, Arthur N. Dunning III wrote:
>>
>>> I would have thought so, as well, but I found this:
>>> http://help.libreoffice.org/**Common/Sending_Faxes_and_**
>>> Configuring_for_Faxing
>>>
>>> It was the information on this page that motivated me to ask about a fax
>>> driver for Ubuntu.
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> Interesting you should bring this up... I use efax-gtk (Ubuntu 10.10)
>> and that works well with an old PCI fax modem. However I've not figured
>> out (yet) how to get it set up properly as a "printer" so that LO can
>> use it. In addition to your link, I've also found these as well:
>>
>> > Fax_Under_UNIX_Based_Platforms
>> **>
>> 
>> >
>> [Faxing with efax-gtk with OO 2.0?]
>>
>> More:
>> 
>> >
>> [[SOLVED] efax virtual printer]
>>
>>
>> This one seems to work, but efax-gtk keeps crashing on me every time I
>> attempt to send one of the queue faxes:
>>
>> > applications_gui_multimedia/**setting_fax_using_efaxgtk_**
>> setup_using_hsfmodem_conexant_**and_open_office
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ubuntu Fax Driver Search

2011-12-10 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I never was able to get Ubuntu to work with either my PCI fax cards or 
the ones built into my laptops.  I know that if you have a fax card 
working with its printer driver package, you can use it like a paper 
printer, except it asked for the fax numbers and such, then "prints" the 
document as a fax.  With that fax printing driver/software package 
installed, you could fax a web page or email printout to someone, buy 
why would you.  Any software package that allows you to choose your 
printers and have access to the fax options, can be faxed.


I gave up on my efforts for Ubuntu faxing and the newest printer I 
bought has a fax machine built into it.


Actually I once used eFax [the company] for sending and receiving of a 
few fax documents, but I rarely used it.  I sent 3 or 4 faxes in 2011 so 
far, to those companies that will not give out an email address for 
sending the documents via it.  SO faxing is no longer something most 
people need anymore.  Some businesses, yes, while others do not.


On 12/09/2011 09:20 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/09/2011 03:44 PM, Arthur N. Dunning III wrote:

I would have thought so, as well, but I found this:
http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Sending_Faxes_and_Configuring_for_Faxing

It was the information on this page that motivated me to ask about a fax
driver for Ubuntu.

...

Interesting you should bring this up... I use efax-gtk (Ubuntu 10.10)
and that works well with an old PCI fax modem. However I've not figured
out (yet) how to get it set up properly as a "printer" so that LO can
use it. In addition to your link, I've also found these as well:



[Faxing with efax-gtk with OO 2.0?]

More:

[[SOLVED] efax virtual printer]


This one seems to work, but efax-gtk keeps crashing on me every time I
attempt to send one of the queue faxes:










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[libreoffice-users] Re: Ubuntu Fax Driver Search

2011-12-09 Thread NoOp
On 12/09/2011 06:20 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
> This one seems to work, but efax-gtk keeps crashing on me every time I
> attempt to send one of the queue faxes:
> 
> 

Got it working using the above.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Ubuntu Fax Driver Search

2011-12-09 Thread NoOp
On 12/09/2011 03:44 PM, Arthur N. Dunning III wrote:
> I would have thought so, as well, but I found this:
> http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Sending_Faxes_and_Configuring_for_Faxing
> 
> It was the information on this page that motivated me to ask about a fax 
> driver for Ubuntu.
...

Interesting you should bring this up... I use efax-gtk (Ubuntu 10.10)
and that works well with an old PCI fax modem. However I've not figured
out (yet) how to get it set up properly as a "printer" so that LO can
use it. In addition to your link, I've also found these as well:



[Faxing with efax-gtk with OO 2.0?]

More:

[[SOLVED] efax virtual printer]


This one seems to work, but efax-gtk keeps crashing on me every time I
attempt to send one of the queue faxes:







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