[libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Hello Alex. Thanks your response. I'm using 3.5.4 from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS software library. Right now, the only workaround I've found is to create view from the query, then use that for the report. However, I'm going to assume you've gotten 3.7 from the LO website. I'll uninstall my 3.5.4 and d/l from the LO site. Do you think I'll have any problem using the DB with the newer version? Thanks, Al -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Base-and-new-Report-Builder-in-3-5-tp3817159p4031577.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
On 01/24/2013 05:14 PM, capemayal wrote: Hello Alex. Thanks your response. I'm using 3.5.4 from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS software library. Right now, the only workaround I've found is to create view from the query, then use that for the report. However, I'm going to assume you've gotten 3.7 from the LO website. I'll uninstall my 3.5.4 and d/l from the LO site. Do you think I'll have any problem using the DB with the newer version? Thanks, Al -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Base-and-new-Report-Builder-in-3-5-tp3817159p4031577.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. No, I have been using 3.6.4.3 for Base working with tables, queries, forms, and reports without any problems. This is true for both 32 and 64 bit versions. The following I have done on a 32 bit laptop. (I also have a tower that is 64 bit. All LO software on it comes from the LO website.) I use LO 3.6.4.3 from the LO site and have no problems with Base. LO 3.7 has been changed to LO 4.0.0, and this is almost but not quite ready to be used for everyday use. If I were you, I would download the version I use: 3.6.4.3. Until today, I had been using 3.5.4 from Ubuntu 12.04 to connect to MySQL. I used this to access the data from tables and run queries. I did not do any work with reports. But after reading your emails about problems with reports, I tried to create a report from a query. The wizard would not even open. So, I have removed it. Recently, I have been able to use a different driver to connect to MySQL, so I have not learned anything. If you are going to uninstall your 3.5.4 version, use synaptic to do so. Search for libreoffice and remove anything that is listed in the Installed Version column and begins with 1:3.5.4-0Ubuntu. If you want some suggestions as to how to install LO 3.6.4.3 from the LO site, let me know. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Le 19/03/12 11:36, Ian Whitfield a écrit : Hi Ian, One thing I've lost with my crash is the correct sorting order on my Base Form. There is a known bug in 3.5 where the sort order does not get memorised and stored for re-use on next opening of the ODB file. It should be fixed for 3.5.2. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Hi :) I've known quite a few people using Xp that couldn't open zipped files and needed help installing an archive manager. They often can't view gifs either until after right-click - Choose program. Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 20/3/12, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 20 March, 2012, 2:03 At 12:44 19/03/2012 +, Tom Davies wrote: Side-issue = Zip To open a zip-file on Windows you need to have something like WinZip, WinRar, File-roller or something else similar. Nope. All currently supported versions of Windows include built-in support for zip files. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
At 08:56 20/03/2012 +, Tom Davies wrote: I've known quite a few people using Xp that couldn't open zipped files and needed help installing an archive manager. Do you mean you know dim people and advise them wrongly? Er, maybe suggest they just double-click the .zip file? Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Hi :) No. Err i am not sure where to start as there is so much wrong with Brian's last post. 1. People are not dim just because they are not as skilled with computers as you. People may be exceptionally gifted, perhaps even a genius at many things but still not understand the one area of knowledge you think of as the most important. 2. There are some people in the world that have machines with Windows installed where it wasn't me that did the install! I know that might be difficult to believe! lol. Lately i have bumped into or tried sharing files with quite a few people that can't open zip files. A couple of times i have been allowed to look at the machine in question and seen that the only problem is that somehow file associations have vanished or perhaps were never set-up right. This happens so often that i didn't even know there is some default app in Xp but there are a lot of simple archive managers to choose from and installing one is a quickeasy way to grab all the relevant file-types so that they can all be opened. I have even seen a couple of machines that couldn't even read gifs despite having several MS programs for viewing pictures. Again a pre-existing condition of particular logins on a couple of machines. Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 20/3/12, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 20 March, 2012, 9:36 At 08:56 20/03/2012 +, Tom Davies wrote: I've known quite a few people using Xp that couldn't open zipped files and needed help installing an archive manager. Do you mean you know dim people and advise them wrongly? Er, maybe suggest they just double-click the .zip file? Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Hi All Thanks for all the information and suggestions from everyone!! Appreciated!! First of all an apology from me - Re: Hi-jacking a thread. I'm on a couple of other lists and on these I only have to change the Subject Line to start a new thread - and I keep forgetting that the LO list DOES NOT work this way!! Will try to remember in future!! To Andreas and Alex a special thank you for your help! Do I have a back-up file, Yes, but about a month old so I will have lost some work but that's not too serious. I also tried to open the .odb file after renaming it as a .zip but nothing opens although it is over 40Mb in size!! I next followed up on the suggestion to use HSQLDB as an external engine. My LO Installation is using Java 1.6.0_31 and was not showing any problems so have not had to go back to 22! To set the Class Path I had to search for hsqldb.jr and found it under /opt/libreoffice/program/classes. I then copied the sample file, extracted it and renamed the files as suggested. I put them into /home/FS/Database/FilterData. I then created a New Database using JDBC with the Datasource jdbc:hsqldb:file:/home/FS/FilterData.db I set the Driver Class to org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver (And the Test Driver button says Installed correctly). I set the User Name to 'SA with no Password. I registered the Database and opened for editing. I was then asked for the location so selected that. I then get an error Box - Connection could not be established. It complains that the Properties file is not found and that Properties.new - no such file or directory. (The Properties file IS at that location but there is NO Properties.new file!!) (I made the three files in FilterData all rwx and tried again but got the same error!!) Where have the wheels fallen off?? As a last point I have my backup copy of the file running OK on the system with the embedded engine but am VERY keen to get this external method working!! Thanks guys Ian Whitfield Pretoria. / / -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Hi One thing I've lost with my crash is the correct sorting order on my Base Form. I originally found a nice tutorial on the Net on how to do this but can no longer find this!! Can anyone point me in the right direction to be able to sort my data again?? I want to sort by Surname and then by First Name. Thanks Ian Whitfield Pretoria/ / -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 12:36 +0200, Ian Whitfield wrote: Hi One thing I've lost with my crash is the correct sorting order on my Base Form. I originally found a nice tutorial on the Net on how to do this but can no longer find this!! Can anyone point me in the right direction to be able to sort my data again?? I want to sort by Surname and then by First Name. Thanks Ian Whitfield Pretoria/ The Form navigation toolbar has three tools (icons) for sorting: an a above a z, an a above a z with a down arrow, and z above an a with a down arrow. The first one is the one you want. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Hi :) If the Form is based on a Query then it's fairly easy to sort the Query. In the Query just put the Surname column first and the First name after it. Then just set each column to sort in ascending order. If the Form is based straight off a Table instead then there is probably some way of doing it but it's likely to be a bit less transparent. I don't know how to re-base a Form off a Query instead of a Table but i think that is the direction i would go in, in order to increase flexibility and transparency in the future. Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 19/3/12, Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net wrote: From: Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 19 March, 2012, 10:36 Hi One thing I've lost with my crash is the correct sorting order on my Base Form. I originally found a nice tutorial on the Net on how to do this but can no longer find this!! Can anyone point me in the right direction to be able to sort my data again?? I want to sort by Surname and then by First Name. Thanks Ian Whitfield Pretoria/ / -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Hi :) Side-issue = Zip To open a zip-file on Windows you need to have something like WinZip, WinRar, File-roller or something else similar. GnuLinux usually has a default one but again there are other choices. There are also programs that can fix some errors with slightly broken zip-files. Are you able to right-click on ormal files or folders and see an option to Compress file/folder? Also do you have trouble with other zip files? Side-issue = Java Java mostly works just fine. If it ain't broke then don't fix it. It might be interesting to experiment with using another version of java just to see if it does make things a bit faster and smoother. For older versions of LibreOffice the 1.6u21 (there might be a .0 missing in there) was apparently the best one if people were having slow-downs and crashes caused by java. For LO 3.5.x branch the 1.7 seems to be best and 3.4.5 has allegedly been updated to allow it to use the 1.7 too. However, as before, if java is working fine then it's probably best to avoid messing around with it! Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 19/3/12, Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net wrote: From: Ian Whitfield whitfi...@telkomsa.net Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 19 March, 2012, 10:06 Hi All Thanks for all the information and suggestions from everyone!! Appreciated!! First of all an apology from me - Re: Hi-jacking a thread. I'm on a couple of other lists and on these I only have to change the Subject Line to start a new thread - and I keep forgetting that the LO list DOES NOT work this way!! Will try to remember in future!! To Andreas and Alex a special thank you for your help! Do I have a back-up file, Yes, but about a month old so I will have lost some work but that's not too serious. I also tried to open the .odb file after renaming it as a .zip but nothing opens although it is over 40Mb in size!! I next followed up on the suggestion to use HSQLDB as an external engine. My LO Installation is using Java 1.6.0_31 and was not showing any problems so have not had to go back to 22! To set the Class Path I had to search for hsqldb.jr and found it under /opt/libreoffice/program/classes. I then copied the sample file, extracted it and renamed the files as suggested. I put them into /home/FS/Database/FilterData. I then created a New Database using JDBC with the Datasource jdbc:hsqldb:file:/home/FS/FilterData.db I set the Driver Class to org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver (And the Test Driver button says Installed correctly). I set the User Name to 'SA with no Password. I registered the Database and opened for editing. I was then asked for the location so selected that. I then get an error Box - Connection could not be established. It complains that the Properties file is not found and that Properties.new - no such file or directory. (The Properties file IS at that location but there is NO Properties.new file!!) (I made the three files in FilterData all rwx and tried again but got the same error!!) Where have the wheels fallen off?? As a last point I have my backup copy of the file running OK on the system with the embedded engine but am VERY keen to get this external method working!! Thanks guys Ian Whitfield Pretoria. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
At 12:44 19/03/2012 +, Tom Davies wrote: Side-issue = Zip To open a zip-file on Windows you need to have something like WinZip, WinRar, File-roller or something else similar. Nope. All currently supported versions of Windows include built-in support for zip files. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem (stability in long term use)
Interesting to know! For my part, by precaution, all my data are kept in separate dbf tables, linked to an odb file. Why do I use dbf? Standard format making it portable to all softs, notably GIS softwares. Old archives can also be read even if you changed your soft. There is not much information on long term use of databases, let's say more than 10 years (e.g.: keeping adresses or bibliographic data). The file can get corrupt. But worser, some data inside the file can get corrupt, without changing the structure of the dbf file,and you just notice it when you query these data. I heard once that MS-access is not stable enough in long term use. And, sometimes, odb file can get problems (for ex. shutdown of windows while some forms are open in the odb file). But, when the tables are kept in separate files, recovery is easy, using a backup copy of the odb file. Using LibreOffice 3.3.2 on windows Vista. NB: I came to openoffice several years ago mainly because of its good integration with databases (standalone use). I wonder if my way of using Base is optimal, trying to find the way among the many possibilities offered by Base and Calc. Many thanks to the developers, Paul Le 17/03/2012 11:58, Andreas Säger a écrit : Am 17.03.2012 11:41, Ian Whitfield wrote: What filter must I selct or what must I do to get my Database going again?? You need to restore your database from a backup. It is lost. This would not have happened with a true database connection. The database wrapped in a single document (embedded HSQLDB) is just fine for drafts and demo purposes. If you really want to work with this bastard you should save a backup copy whenever you take a break. Close the file, wait a moment and make copy of it before you reopen the file. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Am 18.03.2012 08:56, Mark Stanton wrote: I think the point Mark was making was to switch away from using the embedded back-end to pretty much any external one. Which is what you often suggest too. Yes indeed. Can HSQLDB be used as an external engine? I thought not, which is why I didn't include it. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... http://hsqldb.org Download the latest version. Put it somewhere in your libraries (no installation required). Point your office Java to the extracted hsqldb.jar. Extract ./database/ from your embedded database somewhere to your files. Rename your database files with a common dbname. prefix. Connect a new Base document using JDBC with an URL like this one (refer to the downloaded documentation in your libs): jdbc: hsqldb:file:/home/andreas/hsqldb-2.2.5/databases/Praxis/hsqldbdata/db0/chargen;default_schema=true;shutdown=true;hsqldb.default_table_type=cached;get_column_name=false Copy over the queries, forms and reports from your embedded thing. You get the latest version of a full featured HSQLDB without restrictions, many more functions, the access control and safety you would expect from a database application. You can write a configuration file to run a server for concurrent access. Drawbacks: - Embedded HSQL requires another Java config. I use OOo for embedded and LibO 3.3.4 for normal access. - Base can not handle user defined row filters with HSQLDB2. I use my own power filters anyway. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Some additions for anybody who wants to follow my receipt: Am 18.03.2012 10:25, Andreas Säger wrote: Extract ./database/ from your embedded database somewhere to your files. Rename your database files with a common dbname. prefix. The dbname in the below URL is chargen so I renamed the files data, properties and script to chargen.data, chargen.properties and chargen.script Connect a new Base document using JDBC with an URL like this one (refer to the downloaded documentation in your libs): jdbc: hsqldb:file:/home/andreas/hsqldb-2.2.5/databases/Praxis/hsqldbdata/db0/chargen;default_schema=true;shutdown=true;hsqldb.default_table_type=cached;get_column_name=false where chargen is the database name and the semicolon separated options improve the look and interoperability in Base. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
THANKS for that, I must admit I've gotten spoilt by lots of years on Windows now, expect one install file to set up a program, and never having to use a command line -- even for Windows the program HSQLDB still encourages people to use command lines for some things Mind you, I don't mind learning again, if one is learning to do things more reliably and or powerfully Rusty in more ways than one I'm rusty ;-) - Original Message - From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 10:25 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem Am 18.03.2012 08:56, Mark Stanton wrote: I think the point Mark was making was to switch away from using the embedded back-end to pretty much any external one. Which is what you often suggest too. Yes indeed. Can HSQLDB be used as an external engine? I thought not, which is why I didn't include it. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... http://hsqldb.org Download the latest version. Put it somewhere in your libraries (no installation required). Point your office Java to the extracted hsqldb.jar. Extract ./database/ from your embedded database somewhere to your files. Rename your database files with a common dbname. prefix. Connect a new Base document using JDBC with an URL like this one (refer to the downloaded documentation in your libs): jdbc: hsqldb:file:/home/andreas/hsqldb-2.2.5/databases/Praxis/hsqldbdata/db0/chargen;default_schema=true;shutdown=true;hsqldb.default_table_type=cached;get_column_name=false Copy over the queries, forms and reports from your embedded thing. You get the latest version of a full featured HSQLDB without restrictions, many more functions, the access control and safety you would expect from a database application. You can write a configuration file to run a server for concurrent access. Drawbacks: - Embedded HSQL requires another Java config. I use OOo for embedded and LibO 3.3.4 for normal access. - Base can not handle user defined row filters with HSQLDB2. I use my own power filters anyway. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Am 17.03.2012 11:41, Ian Whitfield wrote: What filter must I selct or what must I do to get my Database going again?? You need to restore your database from a backup. It is lost. This would not have happened with a true database connection. The database wrapped in a single document (embedded HSQLDB) is just fine for drafts and demo purposes. If you really want to work with this bastard you should save a backup copy whenever you take a break. Close the file, wait a moment and make copy of it before you reopen the file. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Ian Whitfield wrote via personal mail: *Hi Andreas* Thanks for your reply!! Appreciated - although I don't like the answer!! I thought to ask you this rather 'off-list' in case. You say I must use a Real Database Connection if I want to work with this bastard!! By Bastard I guess you mean HSQLDB. OK - I'm fine with that. I do like the front-end of Base and the ease of working with it but am happy to change the DB Engine. (or anything else but would prefer a WYSIWYG development screen like Base has) But my problem is not knowing how to do this!! Or which is the best way to go. What do you suggest I do and where can I get detailed instructions please? My Database is _VERY_ important to me and I use it every day and all day. It contains about 2500+ records of the Members of my Group including two small photos on each record. Total about 70 fields per record and it is single user - just me!! Thanks very much for your kind help. Hi Ian, HSQLDB is an excellent, extensible, cross-platform, stable and fast database engine. Base is a set of tools to connect this office suite to databases which is best used when you avoid most of its most flashy and obvious features. The HSQL database wrapped into the Base document is the bastard which deserves to be handled with a maximum of caution. [Tutorial] Avoiding data loss with built in HSQLDB http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83t=17567 Extracting an embedded HSQLDB manually under Linux: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61t=46324 I'm sure this helps, Andreas Säger -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Am 17.03.2012 21:20, Mark Stanton wrote: I would suggest replacing the bastard (are we really talking like this? :-) ) with MySQL or perhaps even better MariaDb (mebbe even Postgres). Replacing one excellent databse engine with another excellent (much bigger) database engine will not solve any problem. I run a HSQLDB server and it is the most reliable and fast little software on that Windows machine. On my Linux laptop I run the exact same Java software in cached mode, just like the embedded one but as an independent process with database files outside the Base document. The embedded HSQLDB works like an extension. Every time you access the package data, the database gets installed to office temp. When you close the last connection to the installed database, the database is repackaged into the .odb document. As the database grows, this thread consumes more and more time and during that time there must not happen anything serious to the office suite. IMHO HSQLDB is a well thought choice for a multi-platform database. However, databases should be installed as extension packages so the user data won't be shuffled this way. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem
Hi :) I think the point Mark was making was to switch away from using the embedded back-end to pretty much any external one. Which is what you often suggest too. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 17/3/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote: From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Urgent Base problem To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 17 March, 2012, 21:14 Am 17.03.2012 21:20, Mark Stanton wrote: I would suggest replacing the bastard (are we really talking like this? :-) ) with MySQL or perhaps even better MariaDb (mebbe even Postgres). Replacing one excellent databse engine with another excellent (much bigger) database engine will not solve any problem. I run a HSQLDB server and it is the most reliable and fast little software on that Windows machine. On my Linux laptop I run the exact same Java software in cached mode, just like the embedded one but as an independent process with database files outside the Base document. The embedded HSQLDB works like an extension. Every time you access the package data, the database gets installed to office temp. When you close the last connection to the installed database, the database is repackaged into the .odb document. As the database grows, this thread consumes more and more time and during that time there must not happen anything serious to the office suite. IMHO HSQLDB is a well thought choice for a multi-platform database. However, databases should be installed as extension packages so the user data won't be shuffled this way. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
