Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
Hi :) Similarly DocX promises to be cross-platform and able to be used by any relevant program. So did Rtf. Whenever these things are in the hands of single profit-making companies they don't seem to live up to promises or expectations. Ownership through a committee of a large number of profit-making companies and others seems to make things more stable as long as it's possible to pull any errant company back in-line if it fails to implement it as per agreements. Regards from Tom :) On 19 July 2014 12:50, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:16:49 +0100 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Oddly i still see a LOT of job adverts for programmers who can write Java. I'm hoping that is to help companies migrate away or to re-write existing java packages! [snip] How sad :( Java had such great promise. Java was *supposed* to be immune to all this. Instead, due to the realities of market pressures and the scourge of poor design and coding, Java has become at least as bad a word in the I.T. community as ActiveX -- possibly worse. Plus it's a PITA to code in, has horrible load times, and write once, run anywhere never did become fully real. It was bad enough under Sun. Now that Oracle owns it, I think it's doomed. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:16:49 +0100 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Oddly i still see a LOT of job adverts for programmers who can write Java. I'm hoping that is to help companies migrate away or to re-write existing java packages! [snip] How sad :( Java had such great promise. Java was *supposed* to be immune to all this. Instead, due to the realities of market pressures and the scourge of poor design and coding, Java has become at least as bad a word in the I.T. community as ActiveX -- possibly worse. Plus it's a PITA to code in, has horrible load times, and write once, run anywhere never did become fully real. It was bad enough under Sun. Now that Oracle owns it, I think it's doomed. Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
Hi :) The 1.6.0_31xx is the old branch of Java and has known issues out in the wild. Oracle keep insisting that people upgrade to their newest version of Java because all previous ones have been compromised. Often they don't even release some versions because each one gets compromised so quickly, sometimes even before the newer one gets released! In the US their Homeland Security issued a warning; https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA13-010A Oracle released another upgrade and claimed to have fixed the problem but http://www.zdnet.com/homeland-security-warns-java-still-poses-risks-after-security-fix-709785/ https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/remove_olderversions.xml http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2013/feb/08/java-remove-ask-jack-technology http://threatpost.com/oracle-java-patch-update-pushes-2013-totals-past-last-year OpenJDK is one response to all this and works well for almost everything that needs Java. http://openjdk.java.net/ It is still owned by Oracle but it does seem to have a proper community in addition to their regular programmers so it seems quite a lot more secure and less vulnerable to problems. Java has almost entirely been written out of LibreOffice but there are still some things that depend on Java. Accessibility stuff such as screen-readers are in the process of moving away from Java en-masse. Some wizards and Extensions probably still use Java. Oddly i still see a LOT of job adverts for programmers who can write Java. I'm hoping that is to help companies migrate away or to re-write existing java packages! Regards from Tom :) On 16 July 2014 03:28, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/08/2014 01:21 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: /No SDBC driver was found for the URL 'sdbc:embedded:hsqldb/ Well, nuts. Problem solved: * I just needed to go to Settings LibreOffice Advanced, and enable my installed Sun java runtime 1.6.0_31.* I had it turned off, on the premise (read on the LO list a while back) that if you didn't need it it was likely to cause problems needlessly. It appears to be need for Base, at least for the hsqldb. I see that this problem is a recurrent one, at least according to Google, although it may not be at all due to the issue I found. t. -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
Hi :) Using an external back-end might get around the Java issue. MySql/MariaDb and Postgresql don't need java do they? Also the internal HsqlDb back-end is being swapped out to be replaced by Firebird as the internal back-end. If that does work then maybe the reliance on Java will be over. Regards from Tom :) On 16 July 2014 03:13, Tom Cloyd tomcloydm...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, I've just installed LO Version: 4.2.5.2. On two different boxes I'm getting the same error as before when I try to open a db form or table. I'm NOT installing from the packages, but from the *.deb download at the LO website. So, your idea no longer makes a lot of sense to me. I've never had this error before, and can't imagine why the download wouldn't be complete. Any ideas? I rarely use Base, but when I do it's important, so I do need to get this fixed somehow. t. On 07/08/2014 01:21 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 06/07/2014 20:08, Tom Cloyd a écrit : Hi Tom, Build ID: 14ed55896fdfcb93ff437b85c4f3e1923d2b1409, on Kubuntu Linux 14.04. Check to see whether all of the LO components are installed. By default, 14.04 doesn't install the Base module and additional components. Alex -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
Le 16/07/2014 13:17, Tom Davies a écrit : Using an external back-end might get around the Java issue. MySql/MariaDb and Postgresql don't need java do they? No, using an external backend does not get around the Java issue, if you want to use the built-in Pentaho LO report builder - this is all Java and requires the Java bridge to be instantiated and working, in other words, you need to tell LO that you have a JVM somewhere (preferably one that works with LO too). Also the internal HsqlDb back-end is being swapped out to be replaced by Firebird as the internal back-end. If that does work then maybe the reliance on Java will be over. That won't make a hoot of a difference until the report builder gets replaced by a C++ or python alternative. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
On 07/08/2014 01:21 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: /No SDBC driver was found for the URL 'sdbc:embedded:hsqldb/ Well, nuts. Problem solved: * I just needed to go to Settings LibreOffice Advanced, and enable my installed Sun java runtime 1.6.0_31.* I had it turned off, on the premise (read on the LO list a while back) that if you didn't need it it was likely to cause problems needlessly. It appears to be need for Base, at least for the hsqldb. I see that this problem is a recurrent one, at least according to Google, although it may not be at all due to the issue I found. t. -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
Hi Tom, Le 16/07/2014 04:28, Tom Cloyd a écrit : I had it turned off, on the premise (read on the LO list a while back) that if you didn't need it it was likely to cause problems needlessly. It appears to be need for Base, at least for the hsqldb. I see that this problem is a recurrent one, at least according to Google, although it may not be at all due to the issue I found. Yes, I had assumed that you knew this - my bad (assuming often makes an ass out of u and me) - glad you got it sorted though :-) Java is a prerequisite for working with Base, always was (at least with LO) and will remain to be so for the foreseeable future if you want to use the built-in reporting module (written in Java). If Java can not be found, then no SDBC-JDBC bridge can be established. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
Alex, I've just installed LO Version: 4.2.5.2. On two different boxes I'm getting the same error as before when I try to open a db form or table. I'm NOT installing from the packages, but from the *.deb download at the LO website. So, your idea no longer makes a lot of sense to me. I've never had this error before, and can't imagine why the download wouldn't be complete. Any ideas? I rarely use Base, but when I do it's important, so I do need to get this fixed somehow. t. On 07/08/2014 01:21 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 06/07/2014 20:08, Tom Cloyd a écrit : Hi Tom, Build ID: 14ed55896fdfcb93ff437b85c4f3e1923d2b1409, on Kubuntu Linux 14.04. Check to see whether all of the LO components are installed. By default, 14.04 doesn't install the Base module and additional components. Alex -- ~~~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA (LMHC, WA State) Cedar City / St. George, UT, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 * t...@tomcloyd.com (email) TomCloyd.com (website) * Sleight of Mind blog: Sleightmind.com (mental health issues) * Founder: Google+ Trauma and Dissociation Education and Advocacy community ~~~ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: base error - no SDBC drive
Le 06/07/2014 20:08, Tom Cloyd a écrit : Hi Tom, Build ID: 14ed55896fdfcb93ff437b85c4f3e1923d2b1409, on Kubuntu Linux 14.04. Check to see whether all of the LO components are installed. By default, 14.04 doesn't install the Base module and additional components. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
