Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
Hi.
Do you have access (other than file sharing) to the debian server. If
not you may need to ask your admin for the owner, group and permissions
for 2 specific files (one you can edit and your boss can't, one he can
edit and you can't) to compare.
I force permissions so that the owner on the server differs from the
user and is not seen by the user.
steve
On 2012-11-10 02:05, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
The file-server runs on Debian. My network admin tried explaining
file-permissions but it went right over my head. It's nice to have the
link so i can try re-reading it until i understand it.
I do see hidden files but no ~lock file.
So, i think you are onto something with the permissions even though
other programs don't seem to have the same problem. Although if Word
or other MSO stuff does i wouldn't have noticed of course. I might
test that later.
Regards from
Tom :)
*From:* Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
*To:* users@global.libreoffice.org
*Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012, 22:20
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
Hi.
Is it a windows file server or a linux file server.
Lock files are hidden, you need to turn on show hidden files to
see them.
steve
On 2012-11-09 10:30, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Ahh, thanks. I'm not sure why it doesn't happen with other
programs but i think you are onto the answer there. I'll read
your link later.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)
From: Luuk luu...@gmail.com mailto:luu...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012, 20:13
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
On 07-11-2012 12:57, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
When i save a file onto my company's network and then reopen
it (still in Ubuntu) it all works fine. When my boss opens the
file in Windows an error-message pops-up saying that he can only
open a copy or in Read-Only mode. It's closed on my machine but
his one claims it's still open. Then my boss changes the name,
edits the document, saves and closes. Then when i open the new
version of the document it tells me i can only open in Read Only
(or a copy)!
It does have a slight advantage in that it forces my boss to
effectively make backups and i am gradually encouraging a standard
versioning system other than
filename-draft.doc
filename-final.doc
filename-FINAL.doc
filename-revised.doc
filename-final.doc
in roughly random order and sometimes without the filename
part so folders end up full of documents that could be about
anything. Draft does not always come first and may even be the
final and revised might be a revised draft or just be a draft.
Hence frequent shouts of so which one am i supposed to open?.
It's slow going but at least we seem to make occasional steps
forwards.
So, i am not sure i really want to fix the problem but it's
one of the excuses some of my colleagues use to revert to inferior
products instead of going with LO.
Regards from
Tom :)
Make sure permissions are set correctly.
If i create a document on my shared drive (a linux system) from my
Windows computer, its created like this:
(from the command-prompt on linux:)
luuk@opensuse:~/tmp ls -l test.odt
-rwxr--r-- 1 luuk users 8949 Nov 8 20:53 test.odt
You, of course, notice the '-rwxr--r--' ath the start?
The first 'rws' means the owner ('luuk') can read and write
The second 'r--' means the group ('users') can read
The third 'r--' meand the world can read
If your boss opens, and saves under a different name, the owner
of this
new file will be your boss ;)
Learn about unix rights, and your problems will solve itself.
( read:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html
)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
Hi :)
The file-server runs on Debian. My network admin tried explaining
file-permissions but it went right over my head. It's nice to have the link so
i can try re-reading it until i understand it.
I do see hidden files but no ~lock file.
So, i think you are onto something with the permissions even though other
programs don't seem to have the same problem. Although if Word or other MSO
stuff does i wouldn't have noticed of course. I might test that later.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012, 22:20
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
Hi.
Is it a windows file server or a linux file server.
Lock files are hidden, you need to turn on show hidden files to see them.
steve
On 2012-11-09 10:30, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Ahh, thanks. I'm not sure why it doesn't happen with other programs but i
think you are onto the answer there. I'll read your link later.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)
From: Luuk luu...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012, 20:13
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
On 07-11-2012 12:57, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
When i save a file onto my company's network and then reopen it (still in
Ubuntu) it all works fine. When my boss opens the file in Windows an
error-message pops-up saying that he can only open a copy or in Read-Only
mode. It's closed on my machine but his one claims it's still open. Then
my boss changes the name, edits the document, saves and closes. Then when
i open the new version of the document it tells me i can only open in Read
Only (or a copy)!
It does have a slight advantage in that it forces my boss to effectively
make backups and i am gradually encouraging a standard versioning system
other than
filename-draft.doc
filename-final.doc
filename-FINAL.doc
filename-revised.doc
filename-final.doc
in roughly random order and sometimes without the filename part so folders
end up full of documents that could be about anything. Draft does not
always come first and may even be the final and revised might be a revised
draft or just be a draft. Hence frequent shouts of so which one am i
supposed to open?. It's slow going but at least we seem to make
occasional steps forwards.
So, i am not sure i really want to fix the problem but it's one of the
excuses some of my colleagues use to revert to inferior products instead
of going with LO.
Regards from
Tom :)
Make sure permissions are set correctly.
If i create a document on my shared drive (a linux system) from my
Windows computer, its created like this:
(from the command-prompt on linux:)
luuk@opensuse:~/tmp ls -l test.odt
-rwxr--r-- 1 luuk users 8949 Nov 8 20:53 test.odt
You, of course, notice the '-rwxr--r--' ath the start?
The first 'rws' means the owner ('luuk') can read and write
The second 'r--' means the group ('users') can read
The third 'r--' meand the world can read
If your boss opens, and saves under a different name, the owner of this
new file will be your boss ;)
Learn about unix rights, and your problems will solve itself.
( read:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html
)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
Hi :)
Ahh, thanks. I'm not sure why it doesn't happen with other programs but i
think you are onto the answer there. I'll read your link later.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)
From: Luuk luu...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012, 20:13
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
On 07-11-2012 12:57, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
When i save a file onto my company's network and then reopen it (still in
Ubuntu) it all works fine. When my boss opens the file in Windows an
error-message pops-up saying that he can only open a copy or in Read-Only
mode. It's closed on my machine but his one claims it's still open. Then
my boss changes the name, edits the document, saves and closes. Then when i
open the new version of the document it tells me i can only open in Read
Only (or a copy)!
It does have a slight advantage in that it forces my boss to effectively
make backups and i am gradually encouraging a standard versioning system
other than
filename-draft.doc
filename-final.doc
filename-FINAL.doc
filename-revised.doc
filename-final.doc
in roughly random order and sometimes without the filename part so folders
end up full of documents that could be about anything. Draft does not
always come first and may even be the final and revised might be a revised
draft or just be a draft. Hence frequent shouts of so which one am i
supposed to open?. It's slow going but at least we seem to make occasional
steps forwards.
So, i am not sure i really want to fix the problem but it's one of the
excuses some of my colleagues use to revert to inferior products instead of
going with LO.
Regards from
Tom :)
Make sure permissions are set correctly.
If i create a document on my shared drive (a linux system) from my
Windows computer, its created like this:
(from the command-prompt on linux:)
luuk@opensuse:~/tmp ls -l test.odt
-rwxr--r-- 1 luuk users 8949 Nov 8 20:53 test.odt
You, of course, notice the '-rwxr--r--' ath the start?
The first 'rws' means the owner ('luuk') can read and write
The second 'r--' means the group ('users') can read
The third 'r--' meand the world can read
If your boss opens, and saves under a different name, the owner of this
new file will be your boss ;)
Learn about unix rights, and your problems will solve itself.
( read:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html
)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
Hi.
Is it a windows file server or a linux file server.
Lock files are hidden, you need to turn on show hidden files to see them.
steve
On 2012-11-09 10:30, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Ahh, thanks. I'm not sure why it doesn't happen with other programs but i
think you are onto the answer there. I'll read your link later.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)
From: Luuk luu...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2012, 20:13
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: locked in other OS
On 07-11-2012 12:57, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
When i save a file onto my company's network and then reopen it (still in
Ubuntu) it all works fine. When my boss opens the file in Windows an
error-message pops-up saying that he can only open a copy or in Read-Only mode.
It's closed on my machine but his one claims it's still open. Then my boss
changes the name, edits the document, saves and closes. Then when i open the
new version of the document it tells me i can only open in Read Only (or a
copy)!
It does have a slight advantage in that it forces my boss to effectively make
backups and i am gradually encouraging a standard versioning system other than
filename-draft.doc
filename-final.doc
filename-FINAL.doc
filename-revised.doc
filename-final.doc
in roughly random order and sometimes without the filename part so folders end up full of
documents that could be about anything. Draft does not always come first and may even be
the final and revised might be a revised draft or just be a draft. Hence frequent shouts
of so which one am i supposed to open?. It's slow going but at least we seem
to make occasional steps forwards.
So, i am not sure i really want to fix the problem but it's one of the excuses
some of my colleagues use to revert to inferior products instead of going with
LO.
Regards from
Tom :)
Make sure permissions are set correctly.
If i create a document on my shared drive (a linux system) from my
Windows computer, its created like this:
(from the command-prompt on linux:)
luuk@opensuse:~/tmp ls -l test.odt
-rwxr--r-- 1 luuk users 8949 Nov 8 20:53 test.odt
You, of course, notice the '-rwxr--r--' ath the start?
The first 'rws' means the owner ('luuk') can read and write
The second 'r--' means the group ('users') can read
The third 'r--' meand the world can read
If your boss opens, and saves under a different name, the owner of this
new file will be your boss ;)
Learn about unix rights, and your problems will solve itself.
( read:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html
)
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