Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Pedro wrote (14-01-12 00:22)


Done. Added to the wiki ;)


Thanks a lot :-)


I'm a little concerned that I can't find a similar page for 3.4.5 and it is
already available at download sites (even if it isn't announced or updated
on the LO web site).


There are 'only' bugfixes.
I guess http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.4.5/RC2
and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.4.5/RC1
supply relevant info .

Once offered at the download page, there only rests a link to a page as 
e.g. shown here  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/#LO343

Where no reference to the bugs fixed is left.
Maybe a pointer to a wiki page with those notes is relevant for that 
www.page ?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-14 Thread Pedro

Cor Nouws wrote
 
 Where no reference to the bugs fixed is left.
 Maybe a pointer to a wiki page with those notes is relevant for that 
 www.page ?
 

I really don't understand TDF's goals or methods

Those Release Notes don't say anything about the changes since the previous
version... You can just copy them and replace 3.4.4 with 3.4.5 and they are
ready to be re-used.

I'm puzzled.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-14 Thread MiguelAngel

El 15/01/12 0:06, Pedro escribió:


Cor Nouws wrote


Where no reference to the bugs fixed is left.
Maybe a pointer to a wiki page with those notes is relevant for that
www.page ?



I really don't understand TDF's goals or methods

Those Release Notes don't say anything about the changes since the previous
version... You can just copy them and replace 3.4.4 with 3.4.5 and they are
ready to be re-used.

I'm puzzled.

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In:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.0/Beta2


Reported Bugs

A list of annoying bugs still contained in this version is available 
from Bugzilla, the full list of reported bugs is here.

List of fixed bugs

Bugs fixed against Beta1
core

'Back' is misleading, use 'Revert' instead fdo#39452 ..
...


Miguel Ángel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-13 Thread Cor Nouws

Pedro wrote (11-01-12 15:00)


The Release Notes page fails to mention that LO 3.5 now supports Java 7
(1.7). In fact if you have both Java 6 and 7 you can select which one to use
in Tools, Options, LibreOffice, Java


Correct.
Release notes and marketing stuff, web pages etc. are work in progress  
all hands welcome :-)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-13 Thread Pedro

Cor Nouws wrote
 
 Release notes and marketing stuff, web pages etc. are work in progress  
 all hands welcome :-)
 

Done. Added to the wiki ;)

I'm a little concerned that I can't find a similar page for 3.4.5 and it is
already available at download sites (even if it isn't announced or updated
on the LO web site).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
This is a perfect time to post bug-reports, especially against the 3.5.0.  With 
a bit of luck some of the fixes might appear in the final release of 3.5.0 but 
if not then perhaps in 3.5.1 

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)



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From: Stephan Zietsman szi...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 12 January, 2012, 7:37

Onyeibo Oku wrote:
 Hmm, the callout leaders for comments didn't get reviewed. Sometimes comments 
 on a phrase overlap. It should be better to use highlights rather than 
 arrowheads for the 'comment' callout(balloon). I use this feature a lot :(

LibreOffice 3.5 is still in the beta phase and I think bug reports are
very welcome.  Please have a look whether or not a bug report (or
enhancement request, whatever you want to call it) has already been
filed at bugs.freedesktop.org and add your comments to it.  If not,
feel free to file a new one, with a severity of enhancement.  For
more info on bug reporting:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport.

Regards
Stephan

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[libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-11 Thread Pedro

Gérard Fargeot wrote
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5
 

The Release Notes page fails to mention that LO 3.5 now supports Java 7
(1.7). In fact if you have both Java 6 and 7 you can select which one to use
in Tools, Options, LibreOffice, Java

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
That is really good news because for previous versions of Office we have been 
stuck on a fairly old version of java.  Plenty of current stable versions of 
GnuLinux were using that older version of java but one really wants to be a 
bit safer in Windows.  

We still know there are going to be many flaws and vulnerabilites found in any 
version of java no matter how new it is but at least the newer version might 
have LESS holes!  

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Pedro pedl...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 11 January, 2012, 14:00


Gérard Fargeot wrote
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5
 

The Release Notes page fails to mention that LO 3.5 now supports Java 7
(1.7). In fact if you have both Java 6 and 7 you can select which one to use
in Tools, Options, LibreOffice, Java

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-11 Thread Onyeibo Oku
There!

3.5 is the way forward. I'm running it and I'm enjoying the experience :)
I just wish there's a better icon theme or is there a way to throw the UI open 
to system's icon theme. I use faenza on GTK3 (fedora 16, Gnome3)?

Hmm, the callout leaders for comments didn't get reviewed. Sometimes comments 
on a phrase overlap. It should be better to use highlights rather than 
arrowheads for the 'comment' callout(balloon). I use this feature a lot :(

I'm happy to 'miss' the conspicuous margin borders ... Just neat.

Java 1.7 support? Thought the idea was to liberate LibreOffice of the Java 
dependency in order to improve performance.  Great, my custom-developed 
extension works as expected. I'm glad pyuno didn't get broken. Next I'll be 
testing the speed of creating about 20sheets within a loop. 3.4 had speed 
issues there.

Until then ... Well done LibreOffice team!
:) 
-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: Pedro pedl...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:00:32 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?


Gérard Fargeot wrote
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5
 

The Release Notes page fails to mention that LO 3.5 now supports Java 7
(1.7). In fact if you have both Java 6 and 7 you can select which one to use
in Tools, Options, LibreOffice, Java

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is well worth talking with the Design Mailing List about icon sets and 
theming.  I think they have some neat tricks and good sets.  

I am not sure who deals with the contents of tool-tips or balloons.  I have a 
horrible feeling it might the the over-worked and under-staffed Documentation 
Team.  Documentation might not seem glamorous or sexy but it makes a big 
difference.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 11/1/12, Onyeibo Oku twoho...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Onyeibo Oku twoho...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?
To: Libre, Users users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 11 January, 2012, 18:06

There!

3.5 is the way forward. I'm running it and I'm enjoying the experience :)
I just wish there's a better icon theme or is there a way to throw the UI open 
to system's icon theme. I use faenza on GTK3 (fedora 16, Gnome3)?

Hmm, the call-out leaders for comments didn't get reviewed. Sometimes comments 
on a phrase overlap. It should be better to use highlights rather than 
arrowheads for the 'comment' call-out(balloon). I use this feature a lot :(

I'm happy to 'miss' the conspicuous margin borders ... Just neat.

Java 1.7 support? Thought the idea was to liberate LibreOffice of the Java 
dependency in order to improve performance.  Great, my custom-developed 
extension works as expected. I'm glad pyuno didn't get broken. Next I'll be 
testing the speed of creating about 20sheets within a loop. 3.4 had speed 
issues there.

Until then ... Well done LibreOffice team!
:) 
-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: Pedro pedl...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:00:32 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?


Gérard Fargeot wrote
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5
 

The Release Notes page fails to mention that LO 3.5 now supports Java 7
(1.7). In fact if you have both Java 6 and 7 you can select which one to use
in Tools, Options, LibreOffice, Java

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-11 Thread Spencer Graves

On 1/11/2012 10:40 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It is well worth talking with the Design Mailing List about icon sets and theming.  I think they have some neat tricks and good sets. 


I am not sure who deals with the contents of tool-tips or balloons.  I have a 
horrible feeling it might the the over-worked and under-staffed Documentation 
Team.  Documentation might not seem glamorous or sexy but it makes a big 
difference.


  AND is a place where someone can make an extremely valuable 
contribution without getting involved in the details of the code.  With 
another open source project (R, www.r-project.org), I started 
contributing by improving documentation.  It may not be as immediately 
visible as a comment on this email list, but it can have a much bigger 
impact long term.



  Spencer

Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Onyeibo Okutwoho...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?
To: Libre, Usersusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 11 January, 2012, 18:06

There!

3.5 is the way forward. I'm running it and I'm enjoying the experience :)
I just wish there's a better icon theme or is there a way to throw the UI open 
to system's icon theme. I use faenza on GTK3 (fedora 16, Gnome3)?

Hmm, the call-out leaders for comments didn't get reviewed. Sometimes comments 
on a phrase overlap. It should be better to use highlights rather than 
arrowheads for the 'comment' call-out(balloon). I use this feature a lot :(

I'm happy to 'miss' the conspicuous margin borders ... Just neat.

Java 1.7 support? Thought the idea was to liberate LibreOffice of the Java 
dependency in order to improve performance.  Great, my custom-developed 
extension works as expected. I'm glad pyuno didn't get broken. Next I'll be 
testing the speed of creating about 20sheets within a loop. 3.4 had speed 
issues there.

Until then ... Well done LibreOffice team!
:)
-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

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From: Pedropedl...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:00:32
To:users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?


Gérard Fargeot wrote

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5


The Release Notes page fails to mention that LO 3.5 now supports Java 7
(1.7). In fact if you have both Java 6 and 7 you can select which one to use
in Tools, Options, LibreOffice, Java

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-11 Thread Onyeibo Oku
 --- On Wed, 11/1/12, Onyeibo Oku twoho...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Onyeibo Oku twoho...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: re: So what's with LibO 3.5?
 To: Libre, Users users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 11 January, 2012, 18:06
 
 There!
 
 3.5 is the way forward. I'm running it and I'm enjoying the experience :)
 I just wish there's a better icon theme or is there a way to throw the UI 
 open to system's icon theme. I use faenza on GTK3 (fedora 16, Gnome3)?
 
 Hmm, the call-out leaders for comments didn't get reviewed. Sometimes 
 comments on a phrase overlap. It should be better to use highlights rather 
 than arrowheads for the 'comment' call-out(balloon). I use this feature a 
 lot :(
 
 I'm happy to 'miss' the conspicuous margin borders ... Just neat.
 
 Java 1.7 support? Thought the idea was to liberate LibreOffice of the Java 
 dependency in order to improve performance.  Great, my custom-developed 
 extension works as expected. I'm glad pyuno didn't get broken. Next I'll be 
 testing the speed of creating about 20sheets within a loop. 3.4 had speed 
 issues there.
 
 Until then ... Well done LibreOffice team!
 :) 
 -
 from twohot@device.mobile :)


On 11/01/2012 19:40, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 It is well worth talking with the Design Mailing List about icon sets and 
 theming.  I think they have some neat tricks and good sets.  
 
URL please?

 I am not sure who deals with the contents of tool-tips or balloons.  I have a 
 horrible feeling it might the the over-worked and under-staffed Documentation 
 Team.  Documentation might not seem glamorous or sexy but it makes a big 
 difference.  
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 

I wasn't talking about tool-tips.  I was talking about the COMMENT
feature (CTRL+ALT+C). I have created a quick (sloppy) scenario here:
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7671/liboevolution.png

Those icons on the toolbars don't give me joy any more.  The markers
or arrowheads used by the comment leader (the dashed lines) confuse the
readers.  Its hard to tell which text owns the comment in that phrase.
Sometimes an entire paragraph may need a general comment (in addition to
small comments targeted at small phrases or sentences within the
paragraph).  LibO still doesn't differentiate those very well.

If you have the job of reading student's reports and making comments ...
you'll frown at libO.  Its just confusing and I've introduced LibO into
our repertoire of School software in our Institution

Regards
Oku, O

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