[libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Pat Brown
Hi Guys,
   Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged'
previously) cell?  I can't seem to find such an option. If there is no
current option then is it technically possible to do so?

Paddy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Pat Brown
Thanks Alan. I need to split a single cell and work with it as two cells
(i.e. text as well as background and cell borders). Maybe the only way to
do this is to merge two columns and then split the one cell that I need to
work with. This is rather ham-fisted but may be the only solution.


On 10 August 2014 13:52, Alan B abo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Pat Brown mistyha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys,
Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged'
 previously) cell?  I can't seem to find such an option. If there is no
 current option then is it technically possible to do so?


 Paddy,

 Presuming cell content is text, the Data | Text to Columns operation can
 split the text into multiple cells.

 For splitting a single cell it may be simplest to use the Fixed width
 separator option and then mark where to split the cell content.

 If there is a column of cells that needs to be split into multiple cells
 then either Fixed width or Separated by depending on cell content would
 be the technique to use.

 To split up a column of cells as a group each cell in the column would
 need similar characteristics re: where the split should be done. e.g. each
 cell contains words separated by commas then could use the Separated by
 option, tick Comma and the contents of each cell would be split across
 multiple cells at the comma separator.

 Hope the above is the kind of solution you're looking for.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote:
Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged' 
previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. If there is 
no current option then is it technically possible to do so?


This wouldn't really make sense. One of the principal functions of a 
spreadsheet is to be able to refer to individual cells in formulae. 
If you split a single cell, how would you refer to each part of it 
separately? What would D7 now mean? D7RB for the right, bottom 
sub-cell of what was originally D7? What when you divide those cells further?


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:49 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote:
Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 
'merged' previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. If 
there is no current option then is it technically possible to do so?


This wouldn't really make sense. One of the principal functions of 
a spreadsheet is to be able to refer to individual cells in 
formulae. If you split a single cell, how would you refer to each 
part of it separately? What would D7 now mean? D7RB for the right, 
bottom sub-cell of what was originally D7? What when you divide 
those cells further?


It should in principle be possible to just renumber everything. 
After that, it doesn't seem to be different in principle from what 
happens when cells are merged.


That sounds impressive, but it's just magic! If you explained what 
you meant, you might see why it makes little sense.


If you divide D7 horizontally, do the two parts become D7 and E7? In 
that case, do columns E onward get relabelled to F and so on? And 
formulae adjusted? Since column E now has only one cell, what does a 
reference to E6 mean? Is the column now labelled D or E or D/E?


If you now happen to divide F9, does it become F9 and G9 or does it 
take advantage of the ghost of column E and label itself E9 and F9? 
Are the columns now labelled D/E and E/F?


Brian Barker 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Oogie McGuire

On Aug 10, 2014, at 7:10 AM, Pat Brown mistyha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nino, I am creating a geological time-line in Calc. Working across the
 sheet I am dividing the cells into periods. There are five different sets
 of periods. I find, after I have started, that I need to create smaller
 units than one cell. If I could split this cell it would work for me.
 Otherwise I need to evaluate the whole time line and provisionally merge
 columns in the right place in order to be able to merge the ones I need at
 a later stage.

Why are you using Calc for this? Are you doing calculations on the data  about 
each period or epoch or other subdivision? 

Might you be better served by looking at a package designed to handle duration 
and timelines? I know of one for Macintosh and Windows (Aeon Timeline) but not 
sure about other operating systems. 

Aeon allows you to define and subdivide your time with arcs and is great for 
managing what happened concurrently or sequence operations. I've used it for 
genealogy, plotting mystery novels, planning for software development, planning 
breeding schedules for a sheep flock and more. 

As to splitting a cell, I do not know of any way to do that, you would have to 
insert another column and then merge all but the split cell. 

Eugenie (Oogie) McGuire 
Desert Weyr, LLC - Black Welsh Mountain Sheep http://www.desertweyr.com/  
LambTracker - Open Source SW for Shepherds http://www.lambtracker.com
Paonia, CO USA


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Robert Funnell

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote:


At 11:49 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote:
Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged' 
previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. If there is no 
current option then is it technically possible to do so?


This wouldn't really make sense. One of the principal functions of a 
spreadsheet is to be able to refer to individual cells in formulae. If you 
split a single cell, how would you refer to each part of it separately? 
What would D7 now mean? D7RB for the right, bottom sub-cell of what was 
originally D7? What when you divide those cells further?


It should in principle be possible to just renumber everything. After that, 
it doesn't seem to be different in principle from what happens when cells 
are merged.


That sounds impressive, but it's just magic! If you explained what you meant, 
you might see why it makes little sense.


If you divide D7 horizontally, do the two parts become D7 and E7? In that 
case, do columns E onward get relabelled to F and so on? And formulae 
adjusted? Since column E now has only one cell, what does a reference to E6 
mean? Is the column now labelled D or E or D/E?


If you now happen to divide F9, does it become F9 and G9 or does it take 
advantage of the ghost of column E and label itself E9 and F9? Are the 
columns now labelled D/E and E/F?


As also mentioned by another poster, if you want to effectively split 
a single cell, you can add a row or column and then merge cells that 
you don't want to be split. (Perhaps a macro could be developed to do 
this.) Would your concerns not then be resolved?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Brian Barker

At 12:41 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote:

At 11:49 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote:
Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 
'merged' previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. 
If there is no current option then is it technically possible to do so?


This wouldn't really make sense. One of the principal functions 
of a spreadsheet is to be able to refer to individual cells in 
formulae. If you split a single cell, how would you refer to each 
part of it separately? What would D7 now mean? D7RB for the 
right, bottom sub-cell of what was originally D7? What when you 
divide those cells further?


It should in principle be possible to just renumber everything. 
After that, it doesn't seem to be different in principle from what 
happens when cells are merged.


That sounds impressive, but it's just magic! If you explained what 
you meant, you might see why it makes little sense.


If you divide D7 horizontally, do the two parts become D7 and E7? 
In that case, do columns E onward get relabelled to F and so on? 
And formulae adjusted? Since column E now has only one cell, what 
does a reference to E6 mean? Is the column now labelled D or E or D/E?


If you now happen to divide F9, does it become F9 and G9 or does it 
take advantage of the ghost of column E and label itself E9 and F9? 
Are the columns now labelled D/E and E/F?


As also mentioned by another poster, if you want to effectively 
split a single cell, you can add a row or column and then merge 
cells that you don't want to be split. (Perhaps a macro could be 
developed to do this.) Would your concerns not then be resolved?


There are no concerns to be resolved: that quite different technique 
is the right way to do this!


Brian Barker 



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