RE: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
Beyond my limited skills but presumably it is possible to run a macro from a spread sheet formula. Assuming that to be true then in col B you want something that in process terms works like “if col A is not blank then run macro ‘InsertFixedDate’ “ which would be triggered when you enter data on col A. Sent fromMailfor Windows 10 From:Dan LewisSent:03 October 2020 11:58To:users@global.libreoffice.orgSubject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time There is an option that I have found accidentally: If you want to enter the present time as static, use InsertTimeor Ctrl+Shift+; But if you want to enter the present time as dynamic use =NOW(). Dan p; On 10/2/20 22:05, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Was looking for options on this, but haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. Closest I've found is Ctrl + ; that inserts current date and Ctrl + Shift + ; that inserts the current time. Both seem to be the fixed value? But have found no way to do that in a formula?? Recall long ago in either Lotus or Quattro, you could use now() and then {Calc} and it would convert the current time to the fixed value. But that was long long ago. Macro recorder doesn't seem to record that kind of stuff, and entering formulas don't either. On 3 Oct 2020 at 10:31, Michael Manning wrote: From: Michael manningmichaelgmann...@gmail.com Date sent: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 10:31:58 +1000 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time To: libreofficeus...@global.libreoffice.org When I have needed a static date or time in Libreoffice Calc, I have found that the only way to do this is to enter the date or time directly into the spreadsheet and not to use a formula. As an example of this, I have been using Calc to measure the drift of t;timepieces compared to a time standard at weekly intervals over a 26 week period. I pre-enter the dates at which the measurements are to be made. At the required date, I simply enter the time as shown on the timepiece and the time as shown on the time standard at the same instance. These times are then converted to seconds and the difference between in seconds is then calculated and charted to show the time drift. These times and dates are static and can be used for later referral. sp; I am not sure if there is a way to use a formula or macro to enter a static ; date. If there is, it is beyond my capabilities. Entering dates and times directly seems very straightforward to me. Mike email: michaelgmann...@gmail.com Libreoffice https://www.libreoffice.org/ On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 19:41, Chimelchimel31@live.frwrote: Hi, I use the formula IF(A1t;;NOW()) copied to every cell of column B. It gives me the correct time every time I type anything on a line of column A. But this is refreshed constantly by the time of the computer, not the time I typed something in column A. I tried looking for a static version of NOW() or playing with iterations (probably not correctly) or looking for a way to stop recomputing this t;specific column to no avail. ; Is there a way to set on column B the time of the typing on each line of column A and keep it as a static time. I am usually good with formulas, but this very basic need escapes me. As far as usability is concerned, a STATICNOW() function seems much more =useful than the current NOW() function. Or inserting a 0,1 argument for staticness or something. So far, I am forced to type or insert the time manually each time. Let me repeat it: Manually each time! Me! ;) Thanks, Chimel. ; =-- Sent from: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html -- =To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? ;https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy ; -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy ++ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mi...@guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ ++ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
There is an option that I have found accidentally: If you want to enter the present time as static, use Insert > Time or Ctrl+Shift+; But if you want to enter the present time as dynamic use =NOW(). Dan On 10/2/20 22:05, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Was looking for options on this, but haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. Closest I've found is Ctrl + ; that inserts current date and Ctrl + Shift + ; that inserts the current time. Both seem to be the fixed value? But have found no way to do that in a formula?? Recall long ago in either Lotus or Quattro, you could use now() and then {Calc} and it would convert the current time to the fixed value. But that was long long ago. Macro recorder doesn't seem to record that kind of stuff, and entering formulas don't either. On 3 Oct 2020 at 10:31, Michael Manning wrote: From: Michael Manning Date sent: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 10:31:58 +1000 Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time To: LibreOffice When I have needed a static date or time in Libreoffice Calc, I have found that the only way to do this is to enter the date or time directly into the spreadsheet and not to use a formula. As an example of this, I have been using Calc to measure the drift of timepieces compared to a time standard at weekly intervals over a 26 week period. I pre-enter the dates at which the measurements are to be made. At the required date, I simply enter the time as shown on the timepiece and the time as shown on the time standard at the same instance. These times are then converted to seconds and the difference between in seconds is then calculated and charted to show the time drift. These times and dates are static and can be used for later referral. I am not sure if there is a way to use a formula or macro to enter a static date. If there is, it is beyond my capabilities. Entering dates and times directly seems very straightforward to me. Mike email: michaelgmann...@gmail.com Libreoffice https://www.libreoffice.org/ On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 19:41, Chimel wrote: Hi, I use the formula IF(A1<>"";NOW()) copied to every cell of column B. It gives me the correct time every time I type anything on a line of column A. But this is refreshed constantly by the time of the computer, not the time I typed something in column A. I tried looking for a static version of NOW() or playing with iterations (probably not correctly) or looking for a way to stop recomputing this specific column to no avail. Is there a way to set on column B the time of the typing on each line of column A and keep it as a static time. I am usually good with formulas, but this very basic need escapes me. As far as usability is concerned, a STATICNOW() function seems much more useful than the current NOW() function. Or inserting a 0,1 argument for staticness or something. So far, I am forced to type or insert the time manually each time. Let me repeat it: Manually each time! Me! ;) Thanks, Chimel. -- Sent from: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy ++ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mi...@guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ ++ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
Was looking for options on this, but haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. Closest I've found is Ctrl + ; that inserts current date and Ctrl + Shift + ; that inserts the current time. Both seem to be the fixed value? But have found no way to do that in a formula?? Recall long ago in either Lotus or Quattro, you could use now() and then {Calc} and it would convert the current time to the fixed value. But that was long long ago. Macro recorder doesn't seem to record that kind of stuff, and entering formulas don't either. On 3 Oct 2020 at 10:31, Michael Manning wrote: From: Michael Manning Date sent: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 10:31:58 +1000 Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time To: LibreOffice > When I have needed a static date or time in Libreoffice Calc, I have found > that the only way to do this is to enter the date or time directly into the > spreadsheet and not to use a formula. > > As an example of this, I have been using Calc to measure the drift of > timepieces compared to a time standard at weekly intervals over a 26 week > period. I pre-enter the dates at which the measurements are to be made. > At the required date, I simply enter the time as shown on the timepiece and > the time as shown on the time standard at the same instance. These times > are then converted to seconds and the difference between in seconds is then > calculated and charted to show the time drift. These times and dates are > static and can be used for later referral. > > I am not sure if there is a way to use a formula or macro to enter a static > date. If there is, it is beyond my capabilities. Entering dates and times > directly seems very straightforward to me. > > Mike > email: michaelgmann...@gmail.com > Libreoffice https://www.libreoffice.org/ > > > > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 19:41, Chimel wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I use the formula IF(A1<>"";NOW()) copied to every cell of column B. > > It gives me the correct time every time I type anything on a line of column > > A. > > But this is refreshed constantly by the time of the computer, not the time > > I > > typed something in column A. > > I tried looking for a static version of NOW() or playing with iterations > > (probably not correctly) or looking for a way to stop recomputing this > > specific column to no avail. > > Is there a way to set on column B the time of the typing on each line of > > column A and keep it as a static time. > > > > I am usually good with formulas, but this very basic need escapes me. > > As far as usability is concerned, a STATICNOW() function seems much more > > useful than the current NOW() function. Or inserting a 0,1 argument for > > staticness or something. > > So far, I am forced to type or insert the time manually each time. > > Let me repeat it: Manually each time! Me! ;) > > > > Thanks, > > Chimel. > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: > > http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? > > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy ++ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mi...@guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ ++ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
When I have needed a static date or time in Libreoffice Calc, I have found that the only way to do this is to enter the date or time directly into the spreadsheet and not to use a formula. As an example of this, I have been using Calc to measure the drift of timepieces compared to a time standard at weekly intervals over a 26 week period. I pre-enter the dates at which the measurements are to be made. At the required date, I simply enter the time as shown on the timepiece and the time as shown on the time standard at the same instance. These times are then converted to seconds and the difference between in seconds is then calculated and charted to show the time drift. These times and dates are static and can be used for later referral. I am not sure if there is a way to use a formula or macro to enter a static date. If there is, it is beyond my capabilities. Entering dates and times directly seems very straightforward to me. Mike email: michaelgmann...@gmail.com Libreoffice https://www.libreoffice.org/ On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 19:41, Chimel wrote: > Hi, > > I use the formula IF(A1<>"";NOW()) copied to every cell of column B. > It gives me the correct time every time I type anything on a line of column > A. > But this is refreshed constantly by the time of the computer, not the time > I > typed something in column A. > I tried looking for a static version of NOW() or playing with iterations > (probably not correctly) or looking for a way to stop recomputing this > specific column to no avail. > Is there a way to set on column B the time of the typing on each line of > column A and keep it as a static time. > > I am usually good with formulas, but this very basic need escapes me. > As far as usability is concerned, a STATICNOW() function seems much more > useful than the current NOW() function. Or inserting a 0,1 argument for > staticness or something. > So far, I am forced to type or insert the time manually each time. > Let me repeat it: Manually each time! Me! ;) > > Thanks, > Chimel. > > > > -- > Sent from: > http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 21:27:30 +0200 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > In Google Spreadsheets What does this have to do with LO? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
At 02:37 02/10/2020 -0700, Chimel Noname wrote: I use the formula IF(A1<>"";NOW()) copied to every cell of column B. It gives me the correct time every time I type anything on a line of column A. But this is refreshed constantly by the time of the computer, not the time I typed something in column A. I tried looking for a static version of NOW() or playing with iterations (probably not correctly) or looking for a way to stop recomputing this specific column to no avail. Is there a way to set on column B the time of the typing on each line of column A and keep it as a static time. This is a simple question but unfortunately does not appear to have a simple answer. But - like with your other question - you can do something using a recursive formula. Enter into B1 =IF(A1="";"";IF(B1="";NOW();B1)) Once again, you need to have Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Calc | Calculate | Iterative References | Iterations ticked. This almost works, in that if A1 is empty and you enter something there, then B1 will change to record the time. But if you now simply overtype what is already in A1, B1 will not change. There is an easy workaround, however: before typing your new value into A1, just press Delete to empty A1 (B1 will now be empty too) and then enter your new value (B1 becomes the new time). So far, I am forced to type or insert the time manually each time. No longer! I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
Some disappointment: Now I'm not so sure any more that this is possible. My idea was to check the currently selected cell, but it has two big flaws: 1: When updating cell contents, any cell can be selected. 2: ThisComponent.CurrentSelection.getValue() seems to always return 0 in a situation like that, no matter which cell is selected and no matter its value… but even if that part worked, the whole thing wouldn't work anyway, see 1. So I simply failed to make it work. Sorry. In my Google Spreadsheet, I have a script that fills in the corresponding cell in column A if one of a few cells in the same row was filled, but there doesn't seem to be any (easy) way to trigger a macro to run when a cell was changed in LibreOffice. Maybe trying with listeners, but I never studied those so I'm totally clueless about them. In Google Spreadsheets you only have to create a function and call it OnEdit(). It will run every time a cell is changed. In that function, you just write code to find out what cell was changed and if a cell in a certain column or cell range was changed, just fill in the current date and/or time value in your time- or date column at the same row as the cell that was changed. It's actually very straight forward. Anyway, odd that I couldn't find an easy way to do it in LibreOffice Calc. I'm sure it's possible, but I don't have a clue how to do it, at the moment. I'm sure I'm overlooking something. This should be easy, shouldn't it? A few simple workarounds that comes to mind: Use the pre-defined keyboard shortcuts to insert date, time or date and time. I don't remember the shortcuts now, because I changed mine (to Ctrl+↵ for date), but maybe it is Ctrl+; that is the same as in Excel? Another workaround is to use the NOW() function and when finished just select all date cells and then hit Ctrl+c Insert ↵. Ctrl+c for copying the cell range, Insert for Paste Special (or is that just another one of those keyboard shortcuts that I changed on my own setup?) and ↵ for executing the paste. Or write a macro that replaces all date cell's formulas with their values automatically and run it before saving your spreadsheet. Or maybe let the same macro also save the spreadsheet and use that macro instead of Ctrl+s for saving. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg Den fre 2 okt. 2020 kl 19:58 skrev Johnny Rosenberg : > Den fre 2 okt. 2020 kl 11:41 skrev Chimel : > >> Hi, >> >> I use the formula IF(A1<>"";NOW()) copied to every cell of column B. >> It gives me the correct time every time I type anything on a line of >> column >> A. >> But this is refreshed constantly by the time of the computer, > > > Yes, that's the point with the NOW() function. It's usually used for > calculating time, for instance how long ago a certain date was, for > instance =NOW()-A1, which you then format to whatever format you like. With > no formatting you get it in days. > > not the time I >> typed something in column A. >> > > That's correct and intended. > > I tried looking for a static version of NOW() or playing with iterations >> (probably not correctly) or looking for a way to stop recomputing this >> specific column to no avail. >> Is there a way to set on column B the time of the typing on each line of >> column A and keep it as a static time. >> > > Yes, I actually do that in a Google Spreadsheet, but it can be done in all > spreadsheets that support macros or scripts, I think. > >> >> I am usually good with formulas, but this very basic need escapes me. >> > > It's probably because there is no cell function for that. You have to > create your own. > > As far as usability is concerned, a STATICNOW() function seems much more >> useful than the current NOW() function. > > > It depends on what you want to do. See above. I find both useful, but in > different situations. > > >> Or inserting a 0,1 argument for >> staticness or something. >> So far, I am forced to type or insert the time manually each time. >> Let me repeat it: Manually each time! Me! ;) >> > > I'll experiment a bit with a macro for this. I'm back when done, if nobody > beats me to it. > > > Kind regards > > Johnny Rosenberg > > >> >> Thanks, >> Chimel. >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: >> http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> >> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy:
Re: [libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
Den fre 2 okt. 2020 kl 11:41 skrev Chimel : > Hi, > > I use the formula IF(A1<>"";NOW()) copied to every cell of column B. > It gives me the correct time every time I type anything on a line of column > A. > But this is refreshed constantly by the time of the computer, Yes, that's the point with the NOW() function. It's usually used for calculating time, for instance how long ago a certain date was, for instance =NOW()-A1, which you then format to whatever format you like. With no formatting you get it in days. not the time I > typed something in column A. > That's correct and intended. I tried looking for a static version of NOW() or playing with iterations > (probably not correctly) or looking for a way to stop recomputing this > specific column to no avail. > Is there a way to set on column B the time of the typing on each line of > column A and keep it as a static time. > Yes, I actually do that in a Google Spreadsheet, but it can be done in all spreadsheets that support macros or scripts, I think. > > I am usually good with formulas, but this very basic need escapes me. > It's probably because there is no cell function for that. You have to create your own. As far as usability is concerned, a STATICNOW() function seems much more > useful than the current NOW() function. It depends on what you want to do. See above. I find both useful, but in different situations. > Or inserting a 0,1 argument for > staticness or something. > So far, I am forced to type or insert the time manually each time. > Let me repeat it: Manually each time! Me! ;) > I'll experiment a bit with a macro for this. I'm back when done, if nobody beats me to it. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg > > Thanks, > Chimel. > > > > -- > Sent from: > http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Static vs. dynamic time
Hi, I use the formula IF(A1<>"";NOW()) copied to every cell of column B. It gives me the correct time every time I type anything on a line of column A. But this is refreshed constantly by the time of the computer, not the time I typed something in column A. I tried looking for a static version of NOW() or playing with iterations (probably not correctly) or looking for a way to stop recomputing this specific column to no avail. Is there a way to set on column B the time of the typing on each line of column A and keep it as a static time. I am usually good with formulas, but this very basic need escapes me. As far as usability is concerned, a STATICNOW() function seems much more useful than the current NOW() function. Or inserting a 0,1 argument for staticness or something. So far, I am forced to type or insert the time manually each time. Let me repeat it: Manually each time! Me! ;) Thanks, Chimel. -- Sent from: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Users-f1639498.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy