Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-07-14 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 07/12/2014 03:52 PM, Cley Faye wrote:

For my curiosity, if one of those file happen to not have any sensitive
information, would it be possible to have a copy of it? I'm curious about
this file format... It's supposed to be an editing format, but most
information indicate that there are only converters to flat image formats...



I am doing this for a lady in my building.  So it would be up to her.

I will try the software trial - though it is for 3 uses only per trial.  
Maybe that would be 3 uses per machine?  Will look into it later this 
week when I have the time.  Righ now I am running on ZERO sleep from 9 
am Sunday with typing this at 8:15 pm on Monday.


To be honest, converting the .sig files to .jpg and then using OCR 
software might work out.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-07-12 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


OK everyone, I received the USB floppy from China, today.

The files are .sig
which might be something like Printshop or other software that was out 
there in October 2005 when the files were made.  There is a cover.sig, 
p1 - p13.sig, and a toc.sig file names.


Right now I have them on my Linux desktop, but will need some conversion 
or viewer for Ubuntu/Mint or Windows 7.


Any ideas?


On 06/30/2014 10:31 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Floppy drives were notoriously unstable and kept needing to be replaced or
just left in the machine in their broken state.

It's also kinda inevitable that people have ended up with files in formats
that can't be read anymore.  It's one of the main reasons for the need for
a big push for greater use of Open formats.

I find it hilarious that the Senate decided their library was going to be
all in Rtf format as the one that would finally allow all their files to be
readable by anyone on any machine with any relevant program forever.  It's
what MS promised for the format despite all the 'accidental' troubles that
format had.  The Senate is far from being the only organisation so easily
fooled by MS.

Regards from
Tom :)






On 29 June 2014 14:27, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
wrote:


On 06/29/2014 08:36 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:


Hello Tim,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:23:56 -0400,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :

  On 06/28/2014 10:09 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:03:59 +0200,
Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a
écrit :

  Hello Tim,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :

  I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the

best ability to import really old word processor formats.

I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for
those old file formats, but I may need one of them.

I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
files to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have
to find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the
only system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to
replace it.  My main system does not even have a cable port for a
floppy drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are
the same.

So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need
to get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing
formats. The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may
have used Works or some other older package that are before
MSO .doc format became the standard format before FOSS office
packages came out.

Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I
have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed,
then I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It
would be nice to know which version of LO to install for the
conversion to the modern formats
- MSO's and ODF.

  I could actually point you to the latest version of LibreOffice

(the 4.2.5) as the project keeps on creating new filters for these
old formats.

As for recommending anything older than the currently supported
versions (4.1.6 and 4.2.5), it is just unwise to do this and we do
not do it anyway: there are some major security holes left
unpatched, and anyway the old versions are no longer supported.


To which I should add that the 4.3.0 will be released by the end of
July.

Best,

  I would be doing the work, then removing the older version in favor

of the newer ones.

Hope to download the current versions of LO, again, and all of the
info I was working on.  I lost my list of which versions supported
which formats, and will have to look into that again, with a drive
failure.


Interesting that I read a while back on the lists that some of the
older legacy formats were not going to be supported anymore.  I have
no problem with using the current version[s] of LO, if it would work
with the file format.  Once I get a working floppy drive setup to
read it.  I know that the drive is bad, since it cannot
read/write/format/etc. the blank floppies I have.

I may opt for a USB floppy drive, instead of trying to get the 12+
year old system to use a parts box floppy drive.  I had one for an
old laptop [XP era] but it dropped and stopped working.  Will work on
that. Just recovered from a 2-TB drive failure for a drive that was
10 months old.  Have backups for my large drives, but lost some work
between backups and had some backup file corrupted as the drive was
failing the night of the backup process.  New drive in and old drive
going to be replaced via warranty and used as another spare/backup
drive.  I tend to replace drives after 2 years of use and keep the
old ones offline for USB backups or system spares. Never had a new
one die in only 10 months.  I currently have three SATA 2-TB data
drives and one 250-GB IDE OS drive internal and three SATA 2-TB USB
backup drives with a spare IDE drive as 

Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-07-12 Thread Cley Faye
2014-07-12 20:10 GMT+02:00 Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com:

 The files are .sig
 which might be something like Printshop or other software that was out
 there in October 2005 when the files were made.  There is a cover.sig, p1 -
 p13.sig, and a toc.sig file names.

 Right now I have them on my Linux desktop, but will need some conversion
 or viewer for Ubuntu/Mint or Windows 7.

 Any ideas?


​You might have a hard time to get something out of them...
According to this (
http://whatis.techtarget.com/fileformat/SIG-PrintMaster-graphics-file), it
might be Printshop files, but ​there doesn't seem to exist much other
software that can open them. Even (paying) recent version of these software
are not guaranteed to be compatible with older formats (according to
wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Print_Shop).

​You can always try to feed them in imagemagick, to see if it can convert
them to something exploitable. But I don't think LO will be able to eat
that.​

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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-07-12 Thread Brian Barker

At 14:10 12/07/2014 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400, Tim Lungstrom a écrit :
I have been asked to copy files off a floppy 
drive and convert the files to be able to work with the current tech.


The files are .sig which might be something like 
Printshop or other software that was out there 
in October 2005 when the files were made.  There 
is a cover.sig, p1 - p13.sig, and a toc.sig file names.


Try The Print Shop Essentials (free trial) from
http://download.cnet.com/The-Print-Shop-Essentials/3000-6675_4-10443717.html 
. This claims to convert .sig image files to PDF.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-07-12 Thread Robert Funnell
A quick Google search indicates that your suggestion of PrintShop may 
be close to the mark. It seems that the files are probably image files 
and not word-processing files. Apparently there are image-conversion 
programmes available out there that can handle these files.


On Sat, 12 Jul 2014, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:



OK everyone, I received the USB floppy from China, today.

The files are .sig
which might be something like Printshop or other software that was out there 
in October 2005 when the files were made.  There is a cover.sig, p1 - 
p13.sig, and a toc.sig file names.


Right now I have them on my Linux desktop, but will need some conversion or 
viewer for Ubuntu/Mint or Windows 7.


Any ideas?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-07-12 Thread Cley Faye
For my curiosity, if one of those file happen to not have any sensitive
information, would it be possible to have a copy of it? I'm curious about
this file format... It's supposed to be an editing format, but most
information indicate that there are only converters to flat image formats...

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2014-07-12 20:55 GMT+02:00 Robert Funnell robert.funn...@mcgill.ca:

 A quick Google search indicates that your suggestion of PrintShop may be
 close to the mark. It seems that the files are probably image files and not
 word-processing files. Apparently there are image-conversion programmes
 available out there that can handle these files.


 On Sat, 12 Jul 2014, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


 OK everyone, I received the USB floppy from China, today.

 The files are .sig
 which might be something like Printshop or other software that was out
 there in October 2005 when the files were made.  There is a cover.sig, p1 -
 p13.sig, and a toc.sig file names.

 Right now I have them on my Linux desktop, but will need some conversion
 or viewer for Ubuntu/Mint or Windows 7.

 Any ideas?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-07-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
That is a LOT to write in a lunch break!  To be fair i often have trouble
writing shorter replies as they seem to take me longer!

Errr, does writing off list help at all?  Does your employer hang out
on the LibreOffice mailing lists?  If so is his criticism meant to be
hypocritical or an attempt at humour?  I often have trouble reading
people so sometimes find that i have taken something the wrong way.
Neurotypicals love to create that sort of confusion.

Regards from
Tom :)






On 2 July 2014 00:05, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

This was sent mistakenly to me;
since I merely responded to the initial sender, am forwarding to
 the list.



 From: William W. Austin aire...@att.net
 Date: Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy
 importing?
 To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com


 Hello,

 Apologies for replying off-list.  I'm working VO right now, and even if
 I do so while I'm at lunch, my employer tends to think I'm goofing
 off.  Hence any replies I send between 08:00 and 18:00 (M-S) are
 usually off-list.




  I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best
  ability
  to import really old word processor formats.

 Concerning the floppy drive, get a USB floppy drive.  They're not only
 easier to deal with, they're also faster than the old normal floppy
 drives.  If that isn't an option, there are floppies which use an IDE
 cable and work nicely (I think I've seen them on both NewEgg and
 Amazon). (BTW, converting things from 8 DSDD floppies is less fun than
 it sounds ... and I don't think there actually is a USB version of
 those...)

 [SNIP]

  I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
  files to
  be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have to find a
  working
  floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the only system with a
  floppy
  drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace it.  My main system
  does
  not even have a cable port for a floppy drive, and it seems all of
  the
  others I have opened up are the same.

 [SNIP AGAIN]

 I have kept a well protected copy of the 2.4 release of OOo around
 for just such tasks as reading orphaned format docs, and I also have
 a VERY old copy of StarOffice7 for the same purpose.  There may be a
 release of LO which corresponds to the OOo release I hang on to, but I
 didn't start using it until the 3.4.1rc3 release, so I don't know...
 sorry).

 Surprisingly the last release of IBM's Symphony tucks in a couple of
 items which were not in any of the OOo or LO releases I've used - or it
 did a better job on some of them (sorry - it has been 2 years since I
 did any of this, so I'm a bit fuzzy as to details).

 Occasionally I have to resort to the last Linux release of Applix, but
 it is a little bit of a pain because I have to reinstall (my own rpm) a
 set of libraries going back as far as what came with either RedHat 9 or
 Fedora FC 2 (not sure off the top of my head) - otherwise sometimes
 Applix and or WP (yes there actually was a Linux version at one
 point) bomb out while running.

 Finally I also have - on a windows xp machine (kept just for that
 purpose) copies of Framemaker and Word Perfect - again for the same
 reason.

 I had to set up all of that about 3 years ago when I inherited a
 project from someone who retired, and it included porting about 30k of
 docs from ancient formats to something readable today.

 I hope this helps...

  - wwa

 --
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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-07-01 Thread anne-ology
   This was sent mistakenly to me;
   since I merely responded to the initial sender, am forwarding to
the list.



From: William W. Austin aire...@att.net
Date: Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy
importing?
To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com


Hello,

Apologies for replying off-list.  I'm working VO right now, and even if
I do so while I'm at lunch, my employer tends to think I'm goofing
off.  Hence any replies I send between 08:00 and 18:00 (M-S) are
usually off-list.




 I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best
 ability
 to import really old word processor formats.

Concerning the floppy drive, get a USB floppy drive.  They're not only
easier to deal with, they're also faster than the old normal floppy
drives.  If that isn't an option, there are floppies which use an IDE
cable and work nicely (I think I've seen them on both NewEgg and
Amazon). (BTW, converting things from 8 DSDD floppies is less fun than
it sounds ... and I don't think there actually is a USB version of
those...)

[SNIP]

 I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
 files to
 be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have to find a
 working
 floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the only system with a
 floppy
 drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace it.  My main system
 does
 not even have a cable port for a floppy drive, and it seems all of
 the
 others I have opened up are the same.

[SNIP AGAIN]

I have kept a well protected copy of the 2.4 release of OOo around
for just such tasks as reading orphaned format docs, and I also have
a VERY old copy of StarOffice7 for the same purpose.  There may be a
release of LO which corresponds to the OOo release I hang on to, but I
didn't start using it until the 3.4.1rc3 release, so I don't know...
sorry).

Surprisingly the last release of IBM's Symphony tucks in a couple of
items which were not in any of the OOo or LO releases I've used - or it
did a better job on some of them (sorry - it has been 2 years since I
did any of this, so I'm a bit fuzzy as to details).

Occasionally I have to resort to the last Linux release of Applix, but
it is a little bit of a pain because I have to reinstall (my own rpm) a
set of libraries going back as far as what came with either RedHat 9 or
Fedora FC 2 (not sure off the top of my head) - otherwise sometimes
Applix and or WP (yes there actually was a Linux version at one
point) bomb out while running.

Finally I also have - on a windows xp machine (kept just for that
purpose) copies of Framemaker and Word Perfect - again for the same
reason.

I had to set up all of that about 3 years ago when I inherited a
project from someone who retired, and it included porting about 30k of
docs from ancient formats to something readable today.

I hope this helps...

 - wwa

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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-30 Thread anne-ology
   LO 3.4 has never caused me any compatibility problems - yet.



From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
Date: Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:23 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?
To: LibreO - Users Global users@global.libreoffice.org


I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best ability
to import really old word processor formats.

I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for those old
file formats, but I may need one of them.

I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the files to
be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have to find a working
floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the only system with a floppy
drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace it.  My main system does
not even have a cable port for a floppy drive, and it seems all of the
others I have opened up are the same.

So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to get
support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing formats.  The way
she remembers, she did not use Word, but may have used Works or some other
older package that are before MSO .doc format became the standard format
before FOSS office packages came out.

Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I have
stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed, then I will know
which legacy format I need to work with.  It would be nice to know which
version of LO to install for the conversion to the modern formats - MSO's
and ODF.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Floppy drives were notoriously unstable and kept needing to be replaced or
just left in the machine in their broken state.

It's also kinda inevitable that people have ended up with files in formats
that can't be read anymore.  It's one of the main reasons for the need for
a big push for greater use of Open formats.

I find it hilarious that the Senate decided their library was going to be
all in Rtf format as the one that would finally allow all their files to be
readable by anyone on any machine with any relevant program forever.  It's
what MS promised for the format despite all the 'accidental' troubles that
format had.  The Senate is far from being the only organisation so easily
fooled by MS.

Regards from
Tom :)






On 29 June 2014 14:27, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
wrote:

 On 06/29/2014 08:36 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 Hello Tim,

 Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:23:56 -0400,
 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :

  On 06/28/2014 10:09 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:03:59 +0200,
 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a
 écrit :

  Hello Tim,

 Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400,
 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :

  I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the
 best ability to import really old word processor formats.

 I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for
 those old file formats, but I may need one of them.

 I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
 files to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have
 to find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the
 only system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to
 replace it.  My main system does not even have a cable port for a
 floppy drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are
 the same.

 So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need
 to get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing
 formats. The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may
 have used Works or some other older package that are before
 MSO .doc format became the standard format before FOSS office
 packages came out.

 Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I
 have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed,
 then I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It
 would be nice to know which version of LO to install for the
 conversion to the modern formats
 - MSO's and ODF.

  I could actually point you to the latest version of LibreOffice
 (the 4.2.5) as the project keeps on creating new filters for these
 old formats.

 As for recommending anything older than the currently supported
 versions (4.1.6 and 4.2.5), it is just unwise to do this and we do
 not do it anyway: there are some major security holes left
 unpatched, and anyway the old versions are no longer supported.

 To which I should add that the 4.3.0 will be released by the end of
 July.

 Best,

  I would be doing the work, then removing the older version in favor
 of the newer ones.

 Hope to download the current versions of LO, again, and all of the
 info I was working on.  I lost my list of which versions supported
 which formats, and will have to look into that again, with a drive
 failure.


 Interesting that I read a while back on the lists that some of the
 older legacy formats were not going to be supported anymore.  I have
 no problem with using the current version[s] of LO, if it would work
 with the file format.  Once I get a working floppy drive setup to
 read it.  I know that the drive is bad, since it cannot
 read/write/format/etc. the blank floppies I have.

 I may opt for a USB floppy drive, instead of trying to get the 12+
 year old system to use a parts box floppy drive.  I had one for an
 old laptop [XP era] but it dropped and stopped working.  Will work on
 that. Just recovered from a 2-TB drive failure for a drive that was
 10 months old.  Have backups for my large drives, but lost some work
 between backups and had some backup file corrupted as the drive was
 failing the night of the backup process.  New drive in and old drive
 going to be replaced via warranty and used as another spare/backup
 drive.  I tend to replace drives after 2 years of use and keep the
 old ones offline for USB backups or system spares. Never had a new
 one die in only 10 months.  I currently have three SATA 2-TB data
 drives and one 250-GB IDE OS drive internal and three SATA 2-TB USB
 backup drives with a spare IDE drive as well.  I use one drive - the
 failed one - as both for data and an internal backup for the Linux OS
 drive's /user/ Home folder[s].

 That is why I have been offline these past weeks.  My LO folder, with
 all my working files, was on the failed drive.  Took some time to get
 a new one in so I could have a place to try to recover anything from
 the failed drive.   The Floppy 

Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-29 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2014-06-29 02:03, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Hello Tim,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :


I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best
ability to import really old word processor formats.

I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for
those old file formats, but I may need one of them.

I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
files to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have to
find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the only
system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace
it.  My main system does not even have a cable port for a floppy
drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are the same.

So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to
get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing formats.
The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may have used Works
or some other older package that are before MSO .doc format became
the standard format before FOSS office packages came out.

Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I
have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed, then
I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It would be
nice to know which version of LO to install for the conversion to the
modern formats
- MSO's and ODF.


I could actually point you to the latest version of LibreOffice (the
4.2.5) as the project keeps on creating new filters for these old
formats.

As for recommending anything older than the currently supported
versions (4.1.6 and 4.2.5), it is just unwise to do this and we do not
do it anyway: there are some major security holes left unpatched, and
anyway the old versions are no longer supported.

Best,




hi.
I use a USB floppy drive (3-1/2). Don't know about 5-1/4 discs
Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-29 Thread rost52
I remember having read an information that after v3.6 the number of filters for older version got 
reduced. I therefore keep a copy of 3.6.7 normal and 3.6.5 portable.


On 2014-06-28 22:23, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best ability to import really old 
word processor formats.


I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for those old file formats, but I may 
need one of them.


I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the files to be able to work with 
the current tech.  Right now, I have to find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right 
now, the only system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace it.  My main 
system does not even have a cable port for a floppy drive, and it seems all of the others I have 
opened up are the same.


So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to get support for 1990's to 
early 2000's era word processing formats.  The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may 
have used Works or some other older package that are before MSO .doc format became the standard 
format before FOSS office packages came out.


Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I have stated, as soon as I get a 
working floppy drive installed, then I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It 
would be nice to know which version of LO to install for the conversion to the modern formats - 
MSO's and ODF.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-29 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Tim,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:23:56 -0400,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :

 On 06/28/2014 10:09 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
  Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:03:59 +0200,
  Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a
  écrit :
 
  Hello Tim,
 
  Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400,
  Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :
 
  I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the
  best ability to import really old word processor formats.
 
  I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for
  those old file formats, but I may need one of them.
 
  I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
  files to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have
  to find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the
  only system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to
  replace it.  My main system does not even have a cable port for a
  floppy drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are
  the same.
 
  So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need
  to get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing
  formats. The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may
  have used Works or some other older package that are before
  MSO .doc format became the standard format before FOSS office
  packages came out.
 
  Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I
  have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed,
  then I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It
  would be nice to know which version of LO to install for the
  conversion to the modern formats
  - MSO's and ODF.
 
  I could actually point you to the latest version of LibreOffice
  (the 4.2.5) as the project keeps on creating new filters for these
  old formats.
 
  As for recommending anything older than the currently supported
  versions (4.1.6 and 4.2.5), it is just unwise to do this and we do
  not do it anyway: there are some major security holes left
  unpatched, and anyway the old versions are no longer supported.
  To which I should add that the 4.3.0 will be released by the end of
  July.
 
  Best,
 
 
 I would be doing the work, then removing the older version in favor
 of the newer ones.
 
 Hope to download the current versions of LO, again, and all of the
 info I was working on.  I lost my list of which versions supported
 which formats, and will have to look into that again, with a drive
 failure.
 
 
 Interesting that I read a while back on the lists that some of the
 older legacy formats were not going to be supported anymore.  I have
 no problem with using the current version[s] of LO, if it would work
 with the file format.  Once I get a working floppy drive setup to
 read it.  I know that the drive is bad, since it cannot
 read/write/format/etc. the blank floppies I have.
 
 I may opt for a USB floppy drive, instead of trying to get the 12+
 year old system to use a parts box floppy drive.  I had one for an
 old laptop [XP era] but it dropped and stopped working.  Will work on
 that. Just recovered from a 2-TB drive failure for a drive that was
 10 months old.  Have backups for my large drives, but lost some work
 between backups and had some backup file corrupted as the drive was
 failing the night of the backup process.  New drive in and old drive
 going to be replaced via warranty and used as another spare/backup
 drive.  I tend to replace drives after 2 years of use and keep the
 old ones offline for USB backups or system spares. Never had a new
 one die in only 10 months.  I currently have three SATA 2-TB data
 drives and one 250-GB IDE OS drive internal and three SATA 2-TB USB
 backup drives with a spare IDE drive as well.  I use one drive - the
 failed one - as both for data and an internal backup for the Linux OS
 drive's /user/ Home folder[s].
 
 That is why I have been offline these past weeks.  My LO folder, with 
 all my working files, was on the failed drive.  Took some time to get
 a new one in so I could have a place to try to recover anything from
 the failed drive.   The Floppy project was pushed back, along with a
 lot of other stuff since the failure and the heat/humidity issues
 that came up with the coming of summer.

Sorry to hear about that!
To comment on one of your points; you're right that LibreOffice did
get rid of the old StarOffice formats. However at that time it was
done for technical reasons (i.e. these filters were problematic and
causing trouble elsewhere in the code). I don't read in tea leaves but
writing a new filter for these is just what the Document Liberation
project (www.documentliberation.org) is supposed to do and I'm sure
they're considering it. 

Best,

-- 
Charles-H. Schulz 
Co-founder, The Document Foundation,
Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin
Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint

Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-29 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/29/2014 08:36 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Hello Tim,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 19:23:56 -0400,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :


On 06/28/2014 10:09 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:03:59 +0200,
Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a
écrit :


Hello Tim,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :


I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the
best ability to import really old word processor formats.

I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for
those old file formats, but I may need one of them.

I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
files to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have
to find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the
only system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to
replace it.  My main system does not even have a cable port for a
floppy drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are
the same.

So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need
to get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing
formats. The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may
have used Works or some other older package that are before
MSO .doc format became the standard format before FOSS office
packages came out.

Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I
have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed,
then I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It
would be nice to know which version of LO to install for the
conversion to the modern formats
- MSO's and ODF.


I could actually point you to the latest version of LibreOffice
(the 4.2.5) as the project keeps on creating new filters for these
old formats.

As for recommending anything older than the currently supported
versions (4.1.6 and 4.2.5), it is just unwise to do this and we do
not do it anyway: there are some major security holes left
unpatched, and anyway the old versions are no longer supported.

To which I should add that the 4.3.0 will be released by the end of
July.

Best,


I would be doing the work, then removing the older version in favor
of the newer ones.

Hope to download the current versions of LO, again, and all of the
info I was working on.  I lost my list of which versions supported
which formats, and will have to look into that again, with a drive
failure.


Interesting that I read a while back on the lists that some of the
older legacy formats were not going to be supported anymore.  I have
no problem with using the current version[s] of LO, if it would work
with the file format.  Once I get a working floppy drive setup to
read it.  I know that the drive is bad, since it cannot
read/write/format/etc. the blank floppies I have.

I may opt for a USB floppy drive, instead of trying to get the 12+
year old system to use a parts box floppy drive.  I had one for an
old laptop [XP era] but it dropped and stopped working.  Will work on
that. Just recovered from a 2-TB drive failure for a drive that was
10 months old.  Have backups for my large drives, but lost some work
between backups and had some backup file corrupted as the drive was
failing the night of the backup process.  New drive in and old drive
going to be replaced via warranty and used as another spare/backup
drive.  I tend to replace drives after 2 years of use and keep the
old ones offline for USB backups or system spares. Never had a new
one die in only 10 months.  I currently have three SATA 2-TB data
drives and one 250-GB IDE OS drive internal and three SATA 2-TB USB
backup drives with a spare IDE drive as well.  I use one drive - the
failed one - as both for data and an internal backup for the Linux OS
drive's /user/ Home folder[s].

That is why I have been offline these past weeks.  My LO folder, with
all my working files, was on the failed drive.  Took some time to get
a new one in so I could have a place to try to recover anything from
the failed drive.   The Floppy project was pushed back, along with a
lot of other stuff since the failure and the heat/humidity issues
that came up with the coming of summer.

Sorry to hear about that!
To comment on one of your points; you're right that LibreOffice did
get rid of the old StarOffice formats. However at that time it was
done for technical reasons (i.e. these filters were problematic and
causing trouble elsewhere in the code). I don't read in tea leaves but
writing a new filter for these is just what the Document Liberation
project (www.documentliberation.org) is supposed to do and I'm sure
they're considering it.

Best,


Well, we will see what happens in the near future about these filters.

Having a package, LO or other, that can take as many of the legacy 
formats and convert them into the ones that are used now is always a 
good thing to have.  Every time I changed packages, graphics or office, 
I 

[libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-28 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best 
ability to import really old word processor formats.


I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for those 
old file formats, but I may need one of them.


I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the files 
to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have to find a 
working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the only system 
with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace it.  My 
main system does not even have a cable port for a floppy drive, and it 
seems all of the others I have opened up are the same.


So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to get 
support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing formats.  The way 
she remembers, she did not use Word, but may have used Works or some 
other older package that are before MSO .doc format became the 
standard format before FOSS office packages came out.


Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I have 
stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed, then I will 
know which legacy format I need to work with.  It would be nice to know 
which version of LO to install for the conversion to the modern formats 
- MSO's and ODF.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-28 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Tim,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :

 
 I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best 
 ability to import really old word processor formats.
 
 I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for
 those old file formats, but I may need one of them.
 
 I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
 files to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have to
 find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the only
 system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace
 it.  My main system does not even have a cable port for a floppy
 drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are the same.
 
 So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to
 get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing formats.
 The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may have used Works
 or some other older package that are before MSO .doc format became
 the standard format before FOSS office packages came out.
 
 Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I
 have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed, then
 I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It would be
 nice to know which version of LO to install for the conversion to the
 modern formats 
 - MSO's and ODF.
 

I could actually point you to the latest version of LibreOffice (the
4.2.5) as the project keeps on creating new filters for these old
formats. 

As for recommending anything older than the currently supported
versions (4.1.6 and 4.2.5), it is just unwise to do this and we do not
do it anyway: there are some major security holes left unpatched, and
anyway the old versions are no longer supported. 

Best,

-- 
Charles-H. Schulz 
Co-founder, The Document Foundation,
Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin
Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-28 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:03:59 +0200,
Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hello Tim,
 
 Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400,
 Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :
 
  
  I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best 
  ability to import really old word processor formats.
  
  I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for
  those old file formats, but I may need one of them.
  
  I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
  files to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have
  to find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the
  only system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to
  replace it.  My main system does not even have a cable port for a
  floppy drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are
  the same.
  
  So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to
  get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing formats.
  The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may have used Works
  or some other older package that are before MSO .doc format became
  the standard format before FOSS office packages came out.
  
  Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I
  have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed, then
  I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It would be
  nice to know which version of LO to install for the conversion to
  the modern formats 
  - MSO's and ODF.
  
 
 I could actually point you to the latest version of LibreOffice (the
 4.2.5) as the project keeps on creating new filters for these old
 formats. 
 
 As for recommending anything older than the currently supported
 versions (4.1.6 and 4.2.5), it is just unwise to do this and we do not
 do it anyway: there are some major security holes left unpatched, and
 anyway the old versions are no longer supported. 

To which I should add that the 4.3.0 will be released by the end of
July.

Best,

-- 
Charles-H. Schulz 
Co-founder, The Document Foundation,
Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin
Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-28 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

Kracked_P_P---webmaster schrieb:


I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best
ability to import really old word processor formats.

I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for those
old file formats, but I may need one of them.


The version 3 line is the last LibreOffice version, which supports .sdw 
and the other StarDivision formats, or use OpenOffice.3.4.1.




I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the files
to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have to find a
working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the only system
with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to replace it.  My
main system does not even have a cable port for a floppy drive, and it
seems all of the others I have opened up are the same.


I keep my old notebook to be able to read the floppy disks.

There exists still offers for external floppy disks drives, for example 
DELOCK 18170.




So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to get
support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing formats.  The way
she remembers, she did not use Word, but may have used Works or some
other older package that are before MSO .doc format became the
standard format before FOSS office packages came out.

Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I have
stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed, then I will
know which legacy format I need to work with.  It would be nice to know
which version of LO to install for the conversion to the modern formats
- MSO's and ODF.



I would not focus on LibreOffice, but look for other converters too. But 
first you need to know the actual formats.


Kind regards
Regina



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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-28 Thread James Knott
On 06/28/2014 09:23 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working

One thing to bear in mind is some of those old floppies might be unreadable.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-28 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/28/2014 04:06 PM, James Knott wrote:

On 06/28/2014 09:23 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working

One thing to bear in mind is some of those old floppies might be unreadable.




It is the drive, since it does not read one that was stored properly and 
should not have gone bad.  Also, the noise the drive makes it not good.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] which version has the best legacy importing?

2014-06-28 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 06/28/2014 10:09 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:03:59 +0200,
Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :


Hello Tim,

Le Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:23:23 -0400,
Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com a écrit :


I would like to know which of the older versions of LO has the best
ability to import really old word processor formats.

I remember that LO was reducing the number of import filters for
those old file formats, but I may need one of them.

I have been asked to copy files off a floppy drive and convert the
files to be able to work with the current tech.  Right now, I have
to find a working floppy drive to access the disc.  Right now, the
only system with a floppy drive has a non-working drive, I have to
replace it.  My main system does not even have a cable port for a
floppy drive, and it seems all of the others I have opened up are
the same.

So, as soon as I get a working floppy drive working, I will need to
get support for 1990's to early 2000's era word processing formats.
The way she remembers, she did not use Word, but may have used Works
or some other older package that are before MSO .doc format became
the standard format before FOSS office packages came out.

Any idea which older version of LO would be the best to try?  As I
have stated, as soon as I get a working floppy drive installed, then
I will know which legacy format I need to work with.  It would be
nice to know which version of LO to install for the conversion to
the modern formats
- MSO's and ODF.


I could actually point you to the latest version of LibreOffice (the
4.2.5) as the project keeps on creating new filters for these old
formats.

As for recommending anything older than the currently supported
versions (4.1.6 and 4.2.5), it is just unwise to do this and we do not
do it anyway: there are some major security holes left unpatched, and
anyway the old versions are no longer supported.

To which I should add that the 4.3.0 will be released by the end of
July.

Best,



I would be doing the work, then removing the older version in favor of 
the newer ones.


Hope to download the current versions of LO, again, and all of the info 
I was working on.  I lost my list of which versions supported which 
formats, and will have to look into that again, with a drive failure.



Interesting that I read a while back on the lists that some of the older 
legacy formats were not going to be supported anymore.  I have no 
problem with using the current version[s] of LO, if it would work with 
the file format.  Once I get a working floppy drive setup to read it.  I 
know that the drive is bad, since it cannot read/write/format/etc. the 
blank floppies I have.


I may opt for a USB floppy drive, instead of trying to get the 12+ year 
old system to use a parts box floppy drive.  I had one for an old 
laptop [XP era] but it dropped and stopped working.  Will work on that.  
Just recovered from a 2-TB drive failure for a drive that was 10 months 
old.  Have backups for my large drives, but lost some work between 
backups and had some backup file corrupted as the drive was failing the 
night of the backup process.  New drive in and old drive going to be 
replaced via warranty and used as another spare/backup drive.  I tend to 
replace drives after 2 years of use and keep the old ones offline for 
USB backups or system spares. Never had a new one die in only 10 
months.  I currently have three SATA 2-TB data drives and one 250-GB IDE 
OS drive internal and three SATA 2-TB USB backup drives with a spare IDE 
drive as well.  I use one drive - the failed one - as both for data and 
an internal backup for the Linux OS drive's /user/ Home folder[s].


That is why I have been offline these past weeks.  My LO folder, with 
all my working files, was on the failed drive.  Took some time to get a 
new one in so I could have a place to try to recover anything from the 
failed drive.   The Floppy project was pushed back, along with a lot of 
other stuff since the failure and the heat/humidity issues that came 
up with the coming of summer.







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Re: [libreoffice-users] WHICH VERSION OF ORACLE REPORT BUILDER IS COMPATIBLE WITH LIBRE OFFICE BASE 3

2014-03-07 Thread Girvin Herr

Greetings,
I am using LO 3.6.7.2 under Linux, which has Report Builder (Oracle?) 
version 1.2.3 built in.  Go into your LO Extensions manager (Tools - 
Extension Manager) and look for the report builder installed.  The last 
time I checked, Report Builder 1.2.3 was the latest version.


I am also using MySQL 5.5.36 and mysql-connector-java 5.1.18 with Base.  
The built-in report builder works well for me.  It is much faster than 
previous versions, so the devs must have fixed some bugs.  However, for 
large databases it can still be a bit slow creating a report.  Just have 
patience and it will eventually complete.


HTH.
Girvin Herr


On 03/06/2014 09:08 PM, nazimspirani wrote:

WHICH VERSION OF ORACLE REPORT BUILDER IS COMPATIBLE WITH LIBRE OFFICE BASE
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[libreoffice-users] WHICH VERSION OF ORACLE REPORT BUILDER IS COMPATIBLE WITH LIBRE OFFICE BASE 3

2014-03-06 Thread nazimspirani
WHICH VERSION OF ORACLE REPORT BUILDER IS COMPATIBLE WITH LIBRE OFFICE BASE
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Re: [libreoffice-users] WHICH VERSION OF ORACLE REPORT BUILDER IS COMPATIBLE WITH LIBRE OFFICE BASE 3

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Errr, do you know which version?  Is it 3.6.6?  3.5.7?  If you open
LibreOffice and click on the Help menu and go to About (at the
bottom usually) then that should tell you which version.

LibreOffice itself can be used to generate reports.  Either in Base
itself or by using Writer or Calc.  Writer or Calc means the normal
users of the reports are in a more familiar environment and able to
use familiar tools.  Just connect the database to the document using
Edit - Exchange database   errr, not an ideal choice of menu heading
because it doesn't mean MS Exchange!!
So, do you really need to use Oracle Report Builder?

Also are you using Base to connect to an external back-end such as
MySql, Postgresql, Sqlite or are all the tables in Base built up in
Base itself?


As a side note.  When using mailing lists and forums please try to use
lower-case, or better still sentence-case, rather than all capital
letters.  All capitals looks like shouting (or sometimes emphasis)
so it's good for military and architectural drawings but not so good
for normal conversation.  Many places consider it rude but it also
means that when you DO want to emphasis something it's difficult to
find a way to do so.
Regards from
Tom :)





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which version?

2010-11-24 Thread Guy Voets
2010/11/23 Ivan Stephen sip...@vaxxine.com:
 I downloaded LibreOffice 3.3.0, but it won't open on my Mac.  I have OS
 10.4.11 on PPC (PowerPC chip).  Which is the latest version which will work,
 and from where could I download it?  Thanks.

Hello,

Looking a bit deeper into the tdf website, I found the Mac PPC version here:
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/mac/ppc/

Third on the list is the US version, if you want the dialogs in
another language, download the corresponding language pack too, then
install the program, then the pack.

HTH
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[libreoffice-users] Which version?

2010-11-23 Thread Ivan Stephen
I downloaded LibreOffice 3.3.0, but it won't open on my Mac.  I have  
OS 10.4.11 on PPC (PowerPC chip).  Which is the latest version which  
will work, and from where could I download it?  Thanks.



Regards,

Ivan Stephen
Sips Field Marketing
905-688-5270
sip...@vaxxine.com


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