Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer 4.6.2.3 Failure With Word Document

2014-10-18 Thread Stephen Morris

On 10/15/2014 10:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
The macros are very specific to that 1 specific version of MS Office.  To
use the file in MSO 2007 or 2013 or 365 then you might need to have the
macro rewritten.

If you had them rewritten for LibreOffice then you probably wouldn't ever
need to rewrite them again, except to add improvements or the fairly rare
times that a relevant bit of functionality got completely rewritten in a
different way.

Is there any chance of posting the macro's code into an email for this
public mailing list to have a look at?  People sometimes have suggestions
about what might need to be changed or even some coding suggestions
sometimes!


When Writer crashes it used to often be due to Java.  Is it possible to
turn java off for a bit?
Tools - Options - Advanced/Java
and then untick the box that enables java in LibreOffice.  If the program
grumbles about it then you can always switch it back on the same way.

Another possibility is the memory settings
Tools - Options - Memory
and just ramp everything up quite a lot.  Maybe not the number of steps you
can take back but the amount of ram per object and the total ram allowed
for the whole document seem like good ones to increase!

Regards from
Tom :)
Thanks for the reply Tom, reading your response has prompted me that 
there may be some pertinent information I had forgotten to include. 
Because the document is a work document in needed to leave it in word 
format, so I was trying to save it as a .docm document so that it could 
be used back at work. As Writer appeared not to be able to handle the 
document I opened the document in Word 2013 which handled the document 
quite happily.


Another issue I had was the document had track changes activated without 
any changes in the document having been committed. This process seems to 
function differently in each of Word 2002, Word 2010 and Word 2013 and 
Writer didn't seem to be able to handle this functionality at all. Edit 
- Changes - Show is selected by default (I'm assuming this is Writer's 
equivalent of Track Changes, if it isn't then I can't find any support 
for that) but Writer did not show any of the changes that had been done, 
it displayed the document as if all the changes had been committed. For 
example, all the text that had been deleted, instead of showing the text 
with a line through them as Word does, Writer did not display the text 
at all.
I have just done a test now with Writer using its native format, with 
Edit - Changes - Show / Record options selected and it seems to be 
recording changes by user albeit that it doesn't know who the user is 
(probably because I haven't specified that information in its 
configuration), but even though it is doing this recording if I delete 
any text I have typed in, it just removes the text rather than showing 
it as deleted.


regards,
Steve





On 14 October 2014 23:44, Stephen Morris samor...@netspace.net.au wrote:


Hi,
 I have a sensitive Architectural Design document created in Word 2010
that contains macros, hence it is a .docm file. I have opened this document
in Writer 4.6.2.3 and whenever Writer autosaves or I manually save the save
process crashes Writer. Is there anything I can look at to try to determine
why? Because of the nature of the document it is not something that I can
release.

regards,
Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer 4.6.2.3 Failure With Word Document

2014-10-18 Thread Dan Lewis

On 10/18/2014 08:41 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 10/15/2014 10:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
The macros are very specific to that 1 specific version of MS 
Office.  To

use the file in MSO 2007 or 2013 or 365 then you might need to have the
macro rewritten.

If you had them rewritten for LibreOffice then you probably wouldn't 
ever
need to rewrite them again, except to add improvements or the fairly 
rare

times that a relevant bit of functionality got completely rewritten in a
different way.

Is there any chance of posting the macro's code into an email for this
public mailing list to have a look at?  People sometimes have 
suggestions

about what might need to be changed or even some coding suggestions
sometimes!


When Writer crashes it used to often be due to Java.  Is it possible to
turn java off for a bit?
Tools - Options - Advanced/Java
and then untick the box that enables java in LibreOffice.  If the 
program

grumbles about it then you can always switch it back on the same way.

Another possibility is the memory settings
Tools - Options - Memory
and just ramp everything up quite a lot.  Maybe not the number of 
steps you

can take back but the amount of ram per object and the total ram allowed
for the whole document seem like good ones to increase!

Regards from
Tom :)
Thanks for the reply Tom, reading your response has prompted me that 
there may be some pertinent information I had forgotten to include. 
Because the document is a work document in needed to leave it in word 
format, so I was trying to save it as a .docm document so that it 
could be used back at work. As Writer appeared not to be able to 
handle the document I opened the document in Word 2013 which handled 
the document quite happily.


Another issue I had was the document had track changes activated 
without any changes in the document having been committed. This 
process seems to function differently in each of Word 2002, Word 2010 
and Word 2013 and Writer didn't seem to be able to handle this 
functionality at all. Edit - Changes - Show is selected by default 
(I'm assuming this is Writer's equivalent of Track Changes, if it 
isn't then I can't find any support for that) but Writer did not show 
any of the changes that had been done, it displayed the document as if 
all the changes had been committed. For example, all the text that had 
been deleted, instead of showing the text with a line through them as 
Word does, Writer did not display the text at all.
I have just done a test now with Writer using its native format, with 
Edit - Changes - Show / Record options selected and it seems to be 
recording changes by user albeit that it doesn't know who the user is 
(probably because I haven't specified that information in its 
configuration), but even though it is doing this recording if I delete 
any text I have typed in, it just removes the text rather than showing 
it as deleted.


regards,
Steve





On 14 October 2014 23:44, Stephen Morris samor...@netspace.net.au 
wrote:



Hi,
 I have a sensitive Architectural Design document created in 
Word 2010
that contains macros, hence it is a .docm file. I have opened this 
document
in Writer 4.6.2.3 and whenever Writer autosaves or I manually save 
the save
process crashes Writer. Is there anything I can look at to try to 
determine
why? Because of the nature of the document it is not something that 
I can

release.

regards,
Steve 
  Writer knows who is doing the editing when it is both showing 
and recording any changes being made. This information is gotten from 
Tools  Options  LibreOffice  User Data. (This is the reason why you 
should have some data entered in the User Data page.) So, when the 
person who wrote the original text deletes something, Writer deletes it. 
However, if the document is edited on a different computer, it will show 
the deletion because the User Data is different. Furthermore, the 
editing is done using a different font color. So, if three people are 
editing the same document that has both show and record changes, it will 
contain three font colors.


Dan

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[libreoffice-users] Writer 4.6.2.3 Failure With Word Document

2014-10-14 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
I have a sensitive Architectural Design document created in Word 
2010 that contains macros, hence it is a .docm file. I have opened this 
document in Writer 4.6.2.3 and whenever Writer autosaves or I manually 
save the save process crashes Writer. Is there anything I can look at to 
try to determine why? Because of the nature of the document it is not 
something that I can release.


regards,
Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer 4.6.2.3 Failure With Word Document

2014-10-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The macros are very specific to that 1 specific version of MS Office.  To
use the file in MSO 2007 or 2013 or 365 then you might need to have the
macro rewritten.

If you had them rewritten for LibreOffice then you probably wouldn't ever
need to rewrite them again, except to add improvements or the fairly rare
times that a relevant bit of functionality got completely rewritten in a
different way.

Is there any chance of posting the macro's code into an email for this
public mailing list to have a look at?  People sometimes have suggestions
about what might need to be changed or even some coding suggestions
sometimes!


When Writer crashes it used to often be due to Java.  Is it possible to
turn java off for a bit?
Tools - Options - Advanced/Java
and then untick the box that enables java in LibreOffice.  If the program
grumbles about it then you can always switch it back on the same way.

Another possibility is the memory settings
Tools - Options - Memory
and just ramp everything up quite a lot.  Maybe not the number of steps you
can take back but the amount of ram per object and the total ram allowed
for the whole document seem like good ones to increase!

Regards from
Tom :)




On 14 October 2014 23:44, Stephen Morris samor...@netspace.net.au wrote:

 Hi,
 I have a sensitive Architectural Design document created in Word 2010
 that contains macros, hence it is a .docm file. I have opened this document
 in Writer 4.6.2.3 and whenever Writer autosaves or I manually save the save
 process crashes Writer. Is there anything I can look at to try to determine
 why? Because of the nature of the document it is not something that I can
 release.

 regards,
 Steve


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