Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Objects?
On 25.09.2016 20:50, Ricardo wrote: > El 2016-09-25 20:07, Dave escribió: >> Can someone tell me what Writer defines as "Objects"? The term seems to >> be loosely and often inaccurately used in menus and the "Help" facility. >> >> For example, drawing items appear to be defined a "Objects", but then so >> do frames. >> >> According to the "Help" facility: >> "Objects;Definition >> An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to >> application data, such as text or graphics. >> Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object >> containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic >> object has commands for image editing 8<-- snip -->8 ." >> >> A totally inaccurate and contradictory "garbled" statement in itself. >> >> In the "Help" facility, the "Selecting;Objects" section also makes >> totally false, inaccurate and meaningless claims about selecting and >> grouping *ALL* those things claimed to be "Objects". >> >> AFAICT the only genuine Writer "Objects" are "Drawing Objects". Does >> anyone know of any other genuine Writer "Objects"? > > Math objects are "valid" as well. You can also insert a Calc table on > a Writer document, for example, in which case it will be an object. It > is also possible to insert a "Writer object" into Draw. > > Frames can be considered as objects in part because they can display > the content of external documents: this is how master documents work. > > A common feature of all objects is that when you try to manipulate > their content the "parent" program will open: double click on an > equation will open Math, double click on a Calc table inserted in > Writer will open Calc and so on. > > Regards, > Ricardo > >> Dave Hi Ricardo, Thanks for kindly taking the time to respond. Having been involved with this software since Sun open sourced the Star Office code in 2001, I was already aware of the the things you refer to. However, you have overlooked the point I was making: We describe all of those things as being "Objects", but then in the "Help" facility "Selecting;Objects" section we go on to tell "half truths" about selecting and grouping *ALL* of those things described as being "Objects". You can combine several graphic objects into a group so that you can use them like a single object. . In fact the only "Objects" you can select and combine are "Drawing Objects". Not graphic (picture) objects, Math objects, Calc tables, Frames, or any other inserted objects. Regards Dave -- Please address any reply to the mailing list only. Any messages sent to this noreply@ address are automatically deleted from the server and will never be read. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Objects?
El 2016-09-25 20:07, Dave escribió: Can someone tell me what Writer defines as "Objects"? The term seems to be loosely and often inaccurately used in menus and the "Help" facility. For example, drawing items appear to be defined a "Objects", but then so do frames. According to the "Help" facility: "Objects;Definition An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to application data, such as text or graphics. Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic object has commands for image editing 8<-- snip -->8 ." A totally inaccurate and contradictory "garbled" statement in itself. In the "Help" facility, the "Selecting;Objects" section also makes totally false, inaccurate and meaningless claims about selecting and grouping *ALL* those things claimed to be "Objects". AFAICT the only genuine Writer "Objects" are "Drawing Objects". Does anyone know of any other genuine Writer "Objects"? Math objects are "valid" as well. You can also insert a Calc table on a Writer document, for example, in which case it will be an object. It is also possible to insert a "Writer object" into Draw. Frames can be considered as objects in part because they can display the content of external documents: this is how master documents work. A common feature of all objects is that when you try to manipulate their content the "parent" program will open: double click on an equation will open Math, double click on a Calc table inserted in Writer will open Calc and so on. Regards, Ricardo Dave -- Please address any reply to the mailing list only. Any messages sent to this noreply@ address are automatically deleted from the server and will never be read. -- Il mio blog in italiano: https://ilpinguinoscrittore.wordpress.com/ Mi blog en español: https://elpinguinotolkiano.wordpress.com/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Writer Objects?
Can someone tell me what Writer defines as "Objects"? The term seems to be loosely and often inaccurately used in menus and the "Help" facility. For example, drawing items appear to be defined a "Objects", but then so do frames. According to the "Help" facility: "Objects;Definition An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to application data, such as text or graphics. Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic object has commands for image editing 8<-- snip -->8 ." A totally inaccurate and contradictory "garbled" statement in itself. In the "Help" facility, the "Selecting;Objects" section also makes totally false, inaccurate and meaningless claims about selecting and grouping *ALL* those things claimed to be "Objects". AFAICT the only genuine Writer "Objects" are "Drawing Objects". Does anyone know of any other genuine Writer "Objects"? Dave -- Please address any reply to the mailing list only. Any messages sent to this noreply@ address are automatically deleted from the server and will never be read. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
