Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer paragraph numbered list issue
Hi :) Yes, Steve Edmonds is making a lot of good points. Microsquish Word is good at making an unrecoverable mess of things. What you see on the surface is just the tip of the iceberg. It might be time to bite the bullet and start afresh. It'll soon save you a lot of time. What you have learned about Writer so far will help a lot so none of your struggles have been wasted. Also a quick skim-read of chapter 3 "Using Styles and Templates" in the "Getting Started with LibreOffice" guide often helps a LOT. It's available for free from here; https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications and less geekily from here; https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/getting-started-guide/read-online-5-2/ Note that these can be modified or replaced later so don't worry if things are not exactly correct to start with. LibreOffice tends to use a consistent style by default throughtout any document. When you make changes to the style the effect tends to ripple through the whole document keeping the whole document's appearance neat and consistent within itself. MS Word documents tend to have tons of different styles randomly splodged throughout, often even in a single sentence. That's one reason why unexpected font changes and indent changes and bullet-points styles and numbering systems are often such a messy headache in Word documents. In Writer all such things tends to be kept consistent throughout. So initially you might find numbered paragraphs use something weird, such as; 2. a) iii. but try to avoid stressing about that sort of thing early on. Such detail can be easily changed throughout the whole document with just a few clicks later - after you've had time to look into that specific issue. I used to use Word to collect articles from several different authors for a fairly hefty, several page, newsletter. With Word it would take the best part of a week to pull it all together when making as few changes as possible. MS Word would make radical and surprising changes without being told to. Eventually I learned to strip away all the formatting from contributers articles before even starting. Then i'd re-apply formatting to make it look the same as the article they had given me. It sounds crazy but it saved so much time that the whole newsletter took just a couple of days instead of nearly a week. Then I moved to LibreOffice and the time taken quickly dropped to just a couple of hours - and people started commenting on how much better it looked. So it is daunting but turns out to be surprisingly easy to start afresh. It has probably taken years and a lot of headaches to chase down enough rabbit holes to beat the document into shape in MS Word. Stand by to be amazed at how all that is made really easy in Writer. Suggested rough path - but you may find you do some things in a different order or don't complete one item all in one go; 1. Keep the document you have and maybe print it out to use as style reference. 2. Copy the whole document into a text-editor such as "Notepad" or GEdit or whatever (or paste as plain text) to get rid of all the hidden kludgy formatting 3. Create a new document and keep it as an odt document. Avoid using any Microsoft format! Paste the plain text into it. 4. Tidy the document as a whole. 5. Do sweeping changes using styles. 5. Add images 6. Work on specific detail for final flourish I hope this helps! Keep asking questions, preferably before looking up answers. If you find the answer before we can reply you can always drop us a hint for the next person who has the same question. Good luck and regards from a Tom :) I'm sorry to have to break it to you but Microsquish Word is good at making a horrible mess. It's good for quick little letters and first drafts of things but not for desktop publishing or good quality documents. If you want a neat well-formatted document they have a separate program for you to buy. M$ Publisher is included in some bundles of M$ Office but not others and it's horribly complicated with a steep learning curve. At first it looks familiar as it looks similar to Microsquish Word but it throws in some unexpected curved balls to help confuse and mess up documents. There are plenty of training courses you could pay for and books to buy to help learn how to use a current version but not many people use it so it's hard to get hints from people in normal conversation. On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 21:35 Steve Edmonds, wrote: > Hi. > I am doing the same as you (but not in a legal situation) all the time > and bullets or numbering from word can be variable when pasted into > writer. Some times the numbering continues from previous numbering and > sometimes it starts again. Sometimes bullets paste as graphics > characters and sometimes as a bulleted list. > > If I right click the first character after the number I get the menu > (image) below. LO 6.0.4.2 > > > If you click into the number of the
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer paragraph numbered list issue
Hi. I am doing the same as you (but not in a legal situation) all the time and bullets or numbering from word can be variable when pasted into writer. Some times the numbering continues from previous numbering and sometimes it starts again. Sometimes bullets paste as graphics characters and sometimes as a bulleted list. If I right click the first character after the number I get the menu (image) below. LO 6.0.4.2 If you click into the number of the paragraph do the numbers highlight as (image) below. If not the pasted list may have pasted the numbers as plain text. Another issue you may be facing is that the pasted text is pasted in with a style from the donor document that is different from the style that is in the recipient document. I use an intermediate document to cleanse unwanted styles from the donor document before pasting into the final recipient and this generally makes things work much better. Steve On 07/06/18 05:10, bunk3m wrote: Thank you Robert. Unfortunately neither of these two options work. On 05.06.2018 01:57, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hi bunk3m, The document goes from paragraph 1 to 11 and then should have 11.1 to 11.9 but I end up with paragraph 1 to 20. Go to paragraph, which shows '12' Right Mouseclick > Demote One Level ... and so on for all following paragraphs ... I don't have a "Demote One Level" but wish I did. Could be you have to change the numbering: Right Mouseclick > Bullets and Numbering > Customize Goto Level '2', set 'Show sublevels' and set it to '2'. Regards Robert When I go to Bullets and Numbering, Customize Goto Level 2 and show sublevels, LO Writer creates another set of bullets in front of the bullets imported from Word. Aah. This is driving me crazy. B. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer paragraph numbered list issue
Hi, There seems to be an initialization problem with your chapter numbering. In Writer, chapter levels and their numbering are defined in Tools -> Chapter Numbering. On that panel, you can define the style of the paragraph level (usually Heading 1 to Heading 10 or whatever works in your language) and the format of the level. For the second level, you should select 1,2,3... for the number and 2 for the Show Sublevels: this will show that paragraph numbering as X.Y (1.1, 1.2, 2.1, 2.2, etc.). Setup all the levels to what you want them to look like. Once this is done, set the style of the paragraph to the appropriate chapter style in your document using the Set Paragraph Style pulldown in the Formatting toolbar (actually, if the styles are correctly applied in the document before you start, the headings should set themselves up automatically). And you should now be able to promote and demote chapter headings (not standard text) by placing your cursor at the end of the line of the chapter heading (actually, I prefer selecting the style name: it's easier). I hope this helps. Rémy Gauthier. Le mercredi 06 juin 2018 à 13:10 -0400, bunk3m a écrit : > (snip) > > I don't have a "Demote One Level" but wish I did. > > > Could be you have to change the numbering: > > Right Mouseclick > Bullets and Numbering > Customize > > Goto Level '2', set 'Show sublevels' and set it to '2'. > > > > Regards > > > > Robert > > When I go to Bullets and Numbering, Customize Goto Level 2 and show > sublevels, LO Writer creates another set of bullets in front of the > bullets imported from Word. > > Aah. This is driving me crazy. > > B. > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer paragraph numbered list issue
Thank you Robert. Unfortunately neither of these two options work. On 05.06.2018 01:57, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hi bunk3m, The document goes from paragraph 1 to 11 and then should have 11.1 to 11.9 but I end up with paragraph 1 to 20. Go to paragraph, which shows '12' Right Mouseclick > Demote One Level ... and so on for all following paragraphs ... I don't have a "Demote One Level" but wish I did. Could be you have to change the numbering: Right Mouseclick > Bullets and Numbering > Customize Goto Level '2', set 'Show sublevels' and set it to '2'. Regards Robert When I go to Bullets and Numbering, Customize Goto Level 2 and show sublevels, LO Writer creates another set of bullets in front of the bullets imported from Word. Aah. This is driving me crazy. B. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer paragraph numbered list issue
Hi bunk3m, > > The document goes from paragraph 1 to 11 and then should have 11.1 to > 11.9 but I end up with paragraph 1 to 20. Go to paragraph, which shows '12' Right Mouseclick > Demote One Level ... and so on for all following paragraphs ... Could be you have to change the numbering: Right Mouseclick > Bullets and Numbering > Customize Goto Level '2', set 'Show sublevels' and set it to '2'. Regards Robert -- Homepage: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de LibreOffice Community: http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-users] Writer paragraph numbered list issue
Hi! Today I've had 2 frustrations with LO Writer (6.0.4 & 6.2a). To keep this shorter and easier to follow, I'm posting two topics This email has the second of those frustrations. I have a legal document that was originally a MS Word doc. I don't want to rebuild the complete document to fix page numbering and outline/paragraph numbering style. I would appreciate any pointers on how to fix the following issue. The legal document has numbering for paragraphs. There is a section of paragraphs that has a second level of number in the Word document. That second level of number hasn't translated over into LO properly. ie. top level is 1., second level is 1.1 This worked fine in MS Word. I've tried to change the paragraph numbering in bullet & number style but that hasn't worked. I can't get any of the numbering to change. The document goes from paragraph 1 to 11 and then should have 11.1 to 11.9 but I end up with paragraph 1 to 20. How do I change the paragraph number style and get it to stick. Thank you in advance. PS I'm on digest mode so would appreciate if you can cc me directly on any suggestions. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
