Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
As I understand it this is now official government procedure, ie law. Isn't that the case? I also understand that not all government necessarily wants to abide by its own laws, but this directive seems to be binding. Or have I misunderstod the intention? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
HI :) I don't think it's law. I think it's suggested best-practice and general guidelines. A bit like the Ferengi's Rules of Acquisition or the pirate's code, hopefully. Plenty of people will argue against using it, or make excuses or plead ignorance or just not do it = However it's still a fantastic step forwards and one i never expected to see. I'm still kinda in shock about it tbh. Did anyone else here manage to make comments during the public consultation phases? I made a 'few' at the first one but then the whole proposal vanished from view so i thought it would be the usual story. I think maybe people at MS haven't realised what it means or they underestimated it or something. I really don't understand why they didn't bulldoze it out of the way or turn it upside down by bamboozling non-IT people in government. Like i say i am pleasantly shocked and that makes me question about how effective it's likely to be in getting people to use formats that can be used by different programs on different platforms and on into the future. Maybe i am just too old and cynical but it's a bit weird to see a government doing the right thing!! Regards from Tom :) On 24 July 2014 09:08, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk wrote: As I understand it this is now official government procedure, ie law. Isn't that the case? I also understand that not all government necessarily wants to abide by its own laws, but this directive seems to be binding. Or have I misunderstod the intention? Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
More people know what ODF is. They realise they don't have to buy microsoft office at home to do school work and on it goes... On 23/07/14 15:26, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Even if it doesn't do anything else, at least it might force Microsoft into adding proper support for ODF into Office... ;-) On 22/07/14 23:21, Tim Lloyd wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
Hmm, a huge public response and A rigorous process was undertaken which included considering over 500 public comments and talking directly to users. I'd hoped huge was much bigger than that. Oh well, at least the message got across. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues Two governments in less than a week's time. Very good news! :) Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
Hi :) It is lack of government support for ODF that is one of the biggest blockers to my company migrating to LibreOffice/OpenOffice/Anything-other-than-MSOffice. It is going to be interesting to see if anyone in government takes any notice of this proposal. I'd really kinda like to know what can be done if people carry on sending documents in other formats after this is in place! Mainly because i would like to follow whatever the procedure is when they carry on. Regards from Tom :) On 23 July 2014 12:14, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues Two governments in less than a week's time. Very good news! :) Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
Hi :) I have just forwarded this to the international translators co-ordination mailing list as they were discussing the Kerala case, i've copied some of the posting under this email Regards from Tom :) Anivar Araind said: The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17, 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free Software platform using Libreoffice . Hon. Speaker announced in Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha is done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt The migration process is implimented with the support of Zyxware Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote foss and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer community working on Indian Language support and localizations See below poster . https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557 Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language press and it is available here http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716 http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/ The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments, institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in the opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP. [5] International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has brought out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6] Related Links [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/ [2] http://www.zyxware.com/ [3] http://icfoss.in [4] http://smc.org.in [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf Then these links were added; Some news links in English from today's coverage http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/thiruvananthapuram/Software-Migration-ICFOSS-Hails-State-Govt/2014/07/18/article2335680.ece http://freepressjournal.in/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/ http://www.mathrubhumi.com/english/news/kerala/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-149244.html http://www.newswala.com/India-National-News/Kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-for-its-business-68287.html http://www.bgr.in/news/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/ and from various people; http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4358/zyxware-helps-kerala-state-legislative-assembly-move-to-free-software http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/kerala-legislature-announces-smooth-transition-to-free-software/article6224551.ece [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3 On 23 July 2014 12:14, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues Two governments in less than a week's time. Very good news! :) Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and your email is rejected, please accept my apologies and let me know via my web form at http://jimsun.LinxNet.com/contact/scform.php. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction
Even if it doesn't do anything else, at least it might force Microsoft into adding proper support for ODF into Office... ;-) On 22/07/14 23:21, Tim Lloyd wrote: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted