Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-24 Thread Mark Stanton
As I understand it this is now official government procedure, ie 
law. Isn't that the case? I also understand that not all government 
necessarily wants to abide by its own laws, but this directive seems 
to be binding. Or have I misunderstod the intention?

Mark Stanton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-24 Thread Tom Davies
HI :)
I don't think it's law.  I think it's suggested best-practice and general
guidelines.  A bit like the Ferengi's Rules of Acquisition or the
pirate's code, hopefully.  Plenty of people will argue against using it, or
make excuses or plead ignorance or just not do it = However it's still a
fantastic step forwards and one i never expected to see.  I'm still kinda
in shock about it tbh.

Did anyone else here manage to make comments during the public consultation
phases?  I made a 'few' at the first one but then the whole proposal
vanished from view so i thought it would be the usual story.  I think
maybe people at MS haven't realised what it means or they underestimated it
or something.  I really don't understand why they didn't bulldoze it out of
the way or turn it upside down by bamboozling non-IT people in government.
Like i say i am pleasantly shocked and that makes me question about how
effective it's likely to be in getting people to use formats that can be
used by different programs on different platforms and on into the future.
Maybe i am just too old and cynical but it's a bit weird to see a
government doing the right thing!!
Regards from
Tom :)




On 24 July 2014 09:08, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk wrote:

 As I understand it this is now official government procedure, ie
 law. Isn't that the case? I also understand that not all government
 necessarily wants to abide by its own laws, but this directive seems
 to be binding. Or have I misunderstod the intention?

 Mark Stanton
 One small step for mankind...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-23 Thread Tim Lloyd
More people know what ODF is. They realise they don't have to buy 
microsoft office at home to do school work and on it goes...


On 23/07/14 15:26, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
Even if it doesn't do anything else, at least it might force Microsoft 
into adding proper support for ODF into Office...

;-)

On 22/07/14 23:21, Tim Lloyd wrote:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs 



the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues







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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-23 Thread Mark Stanton
Hmm, a huge public response and A rigorous process was undertaken 
which included considering over 500 public comments and talking 
directly to users. I'd hoped huge was much bigger than that. Oh 
well, at least the message got across.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-23 Thread Jim Seymour
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000
Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:

 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs
 
 the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues
 

Two governments in less than a week's time.  Very good news! :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is lack of government support for ODF that is one of the biggest
blockers to my company migrating to
LibreOffice/OpenOffice/Anything-other-than-MSOffice.  It is going to be
interesting to see if anyone in government takes any notice of this
proposal.

I'd really kinda like to know what can be done if people carry on sending
documents in other formats after this is in place!  Mainly because i would
like to follow whatever the procedure is when they carry on.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 23 July 2014 12:14, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote:

 On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000
 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:

 
 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs
 
  the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues
 

 Two governments in less than a week's time.  Very good news! :)

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 Jim
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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I have just forwarded this to the international translators co-ordination
mailing list as they were discussing the Kerala case, i've copied some of
the posting under this email
Regards from
Tom :)


Anivar Araind said:

The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17,
2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free
Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking
unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha is
done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt

The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote
foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
community working on Indian Language support and localizations

See below poster .

https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557

Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language press
and it is available here

http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/

The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order
announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in the
opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP.  [5]

International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has brought
out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]

Related Links

[1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
[2] http://www.zyxware.com/
[3] http://icfoss.in
[4] http://smc.org.in
[5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
[6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf


Then these links were added;


Some news links in English from today's coverage

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/thiruvananthapuram/Software-Migration-ICFOSS-Hails-State-Govt/2014/07/18/article2335680.ece
http://freepressjournal.in/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/
http://www.mathrubhumi.com/english/news/kerala/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-149244.html
http://www.newswala.com/India-National-News/Kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-for-its-business-68287.html
http://www.bgr.in/news/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/


and from various people;


http://www.zyxware.com/articles/4358/zyxware-helps-kerala-state-legislative-assembly-move-to-free-software

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/kerala-legislature-announces-smooth-transition-to-free-software/article6224551.ece

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3





On 23 July 2014 12:14, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote:

 On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:21:36 +1000
 Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:

 
 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs
 
  the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues
 

 Two governments in less than a week's time.  Very good news! :)

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[libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-22 Thread Tim Lloyd

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs

the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues

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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-22 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
Even if it doesn't do anything else, at least it might force Microsoft 
into adding proper support for ODF into Office...

;-)

On 22/07/14 23:21, Tim Lloyd wrote:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs 



the link says it all. Let's hope this trend continues




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