Re: [libreoffice-users] after the fact page numbers

2023-09-26 Thread Philip Jackson

Hi Chris:

On 25/09/2023 20:02, Chris J. wrote:

Hi.


Whole book, each chapter is a file. No page numbers. My bad.


Without going through each and every page, is there a way to propagate headers 
and footers on every page with the requisite page numbers and whatever else 
throughout a chapter. I realize I will likely need to do this one chapter at a 
time.


I suspect this has something to do with a style sheet. I'm unclear how to 
propagate throughout the document after the fact of the document's creation, 
i.e. I've already written the book.


Also, If I manage this miracle. will the chapter numbers be properly re 
sequenced if I concatenate all the chapters. That would really be nice. I'll be 
doing that manually in LO Writer using cut-n-paste unless there's a better more 
automated way.


Styles are really the answer to well constructed documents and they do seem 
like an overly large burden when you first start looking at them. But there is 
some very good documentation on the Open Documents website: 
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/

I imagine all your separate documents have the same basic default page style. 
If you edit your page style in the first document and activate the footer and 
then insert the page number field into one of the footers, every page will then 
have a number.

If you then open your next chapter and select all the text (Ctrl-A) and then 
copy it (Ctrl-C), you can paste this text into the bottom of the last page of 
your first chapter and all the pages of the second chapter will then have 
numbers which carry on the sequence of the first chapter.

You will probably want each chapter to start on a right hand page and that may 
require inserting a blank page at the end of a preceding chapter.

When you come to formatting the entire book, you will probably come round to 
the idea that you need several page styles. These may be for a preface with 
page numbers in roman numerals; for the first page of a chapter where you may 
not want a header and the chapter title may need to be part way down the page. 
Then any blank left hand page would be another style (possibly without header 
or footer - depending on your style preferences). And finally another style for 
any back-matter.

Each new page style is easily developed from the default page style. The difficulty 
comes in changing the style of a page. The traditional double-click used to change a 
paragraph style doesn't work, in my experience, for page styles. What you do is go to 
the bottom of the preceding page, click Insert > More breaks > manual break > 
select page break and in the drop down list, select the page style required and click OK.

This will give you an empty page of the style required. Place the cursor at the 
top of this page and hit delete. It will then be filled with the material of 
the next page in the document correctly formatted for the page style you 
inserted.

If sometime, you need to stitch two docs together and you require an unusual 
page number at the front end of the second doc, you can pre-set its number
using this sequence suggested to me a couple of years or so ago by Regina 
Henschel.

In this case, I wanted the Writer doc to start its numbering at page 2 so I 
could export it as a pdf and then stitch to it another pre-existing pdf page 
with no.1. I thought to use an off-set but it wouldn't work so Regina kindly 
showed me:


That is the wrong tool for your purpose. Go to the very first paragraph of the page. Open the properties of that 
paragraph. Go to tab "Text flow". Enable Breaks "Insert". Enable "With page style". 
Enable "Page number". Enter 2.

The tool "Offset" has a totally different use case. It is used in letter for 
the information in the footer, that this page of the letter has a following page. And for 
this use case it is the correct behavior, that it is empty for the last page of the 
letter.

hth

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] after the fact page numbers

2023-09-25 Thread Remy Gauthier
Hi,

You can activate the footer in the page style. If you then go in the
footer area and insert the page number where you want it (there are
also some tab stops on the left, in the middle, and on the right of the
page which can help you position your page number easily).

As far as having to change every chapter (document), I am assuming you
used master and sub-documents. I am unfortunately not really familiar
with how to use them so I can't help you much on that front. It would
make sense that if you were to enable the footer while in the master
document it would enable it in all chapters, but I really don not know.

I hope this helps.
Rémy.
Le lundi 25 septembre 2023 à 14:02 -0400, Chris J. a écrit :
> Hi.
> 
> 
> Whole book, each chapter is a file. No page numbers. My bad.
> 
> 
> Without going through each and every page, is there a way to
> propagate 
> headers and footers on every page with the requisite page numbers and
> whatever else throughout a chapter. I realize I will likely need to
> do 
> this one chapter at a time.
> 
> 
> I suspect this has something to do with a style sheet. I'm unclear
> how 
> to propagate throughout the document after the fact of the document's
> creation, i.e. I've already written the book.
> 
> 
> Also, If I manage this miracle. will the chapter numbers be properly
> re 
> sequenced if I concatenate all the chapters. That would really be
> nice. 
> I'll be doing that manually in LO Writer using cut-n-paste unless 
> there's a better more automated way.
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chris Johnson   rchristopherjohn...@gmail.com
> Ex SysAdmin, now, writer/No prize is worth attaining if you
> can never 
> share it, there would be no point.
> /(Ernest Littlefield, Stargate: SG-1)
> 


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[libreoffice-users] after the fact page numbers

2023-09-25 Thread Chris J.

Hi.


Whole book, each chapter is a file. No page numbers. My bad.


Without going through each and every page, is there a way to propagate 
headers and footers on every page with the requisite page numbers and 
whatever else throughout a chapter. I realize I will likely need to do 
this one chapter at a time.



I suspect this has something to do with a style sheet. I'm unclear how 
to propagate throughout the document after the fact of the document's 
creation, i.e. I've already written the book.



Also, If I manage this miracle. will the chapter numbers be properly re 
sequenced if I concatenate all the chapters. That would really be nice. 
I'll be doing that manually in LO Writer using cut-n-paste unless 
there's a better more automated way.



Thank you.


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share it, there would be no point.

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