[libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


Since there was the thread about the Book Preview, I was wondering if 
there is either an extension out there or a external program that would 
print the pages of the document in the correct order for Book Printing.


When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on 
each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages 
in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and 
suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format.


I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid 
paper.  I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages 
listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document 
printing.  I had a template for each page count version of the 
newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets.


I would like to find an extension or external package that would print 
out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets 
instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I 
could use a package for either OS.


Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread David Burleigh
For most impositions I use a very simple freeware utility called
Gimpose (http://www.noliturbare.com/) which is written for Windows but
runs  perfectly under Wine. It does the most common kinds of
impositions, including saddle-stitch booklets, two pages per sheet,
duplicate pages side by side, and cut stacks.

When I need to do more complicated impositions, I have to fire up
Windows XP in a Virtual Box and run Acrobat Pro with the Quite
Imposing plugin (which are both rather pricey).

David Burleigh

828-398-1406 

On 11/12/2012 09:16 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

 Since there was the thread about the Book Preview, I was wondering
 if there is either an extension out there or a external program that
 would print the pages of the document in the correct order for Book
 Printing.

 When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on
 each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the
 pages in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet
 and suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format.

 I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid
 paper.  I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages
 listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document
 printing.  I had a template for each page count version of the
 newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets.

 I would like to find an extension or external package that would print
 out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets
 instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I
 could use a package for either OS.

 Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread MiguelAngel

El 12/11/12 15:16, webmaster-Kracked_P_P escribió:


Since there was the thread about the Book Preview, I was wondering if
there is either an extension out there or a external program that would
print the pages of the document in the correct order for Book Printing.

When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on
each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages
in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and
suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format.

I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid
paper.  I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages
listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document
printing.  I had a template for each page count version of the
newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets.

I would like to find an extension or external package that would print
out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets
instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I
could use a package for either OS.

Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work?



LibreOffice help:

Printing a Brochure
You can print a Writer document as a brochure or a booklet. That is, 
Writer prints two pages on each side of the paper, so that when you fold 
the paper, you can read the document as a book.
When you create a document that you want to print as a brochure, use 
portrait orientation for the pages. Writer applies the brochure layout 
when you print the document.

To Print a Brochure
1. Choose File - Print.
2. In the Print dialog, click Properties.
3. In the properties dialog for your printer, set the paper orientation 
to landscape.


If your printer prints duplex, and because brochures always print in 
landscape mode, you should use the duplex - short edge setting in your 
printer setup dialog.


4. Return to Print dialog, and click the Page Layout tab page.
5. Select Brochure.
6. For a printer that automatically prints on both sides of a page, 
specify to include All pages.

7. Click OK.
If you print a document in portrait on a landscape page, two opposing 
sides in a brochure will be printed next to each other. If you have a 
printer with double-sided printing capability, you can create an entire 
brochure from your document without having to collate the pages later. 
If you have a printer that only has single-sided printing capability, 
you can achieve this effect by first printing the front pages with the 
Front sides / right pages /odd pages option marked, then re-inserting 
the entire paper stack in your printer and printing all the back pages 
with the Back pages / left pages / even pages option marked.


If LibreOffice prints the pages in the wrong order, open the Options tab 
page, select Print in reverse page order, and then print the document again.


I hope this is what you are looking for.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 11/12/2012 10:21 AM, MiguelAngel wrote:

El 12/11/12 15:16, webmaster-Kracked_P_P escribió:


Since there was the thread about the Book Preview, I was wondering if
there is either an extension out there or a external program that would
print the pages of the document in the correct order for Book 
Printing.


When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on
each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages
in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and
suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format.

I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid
paper.  I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages
listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document
printing.  I had a template for each page count version of the
newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets.

I would like to find an extension or external package that would print
out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets
instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I
could use a package for either OS.

Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work?



LibreOffice help:

Printing a Brochure
You can print a Writer document as a brochure or a booklet. That is, 
Writer prints two pages on each side of the paper, so that when you 
fold the paper, you can read the document as a book.
When you create a document that you want to print as a brochure, use 
portrait orientation for the pages. Writer applies the brochure layout 
when you print the document.

To Print a Brochure
1. Choose File - Print.
2. In the Print dialog, click Properties.
3. In the properties dialog for your printer, set the paper 
orientation to landscape.


If your printer prints duplex, and because brochures always print in 
landscape mode, you should use the duplex - short edge setting in 
your printer setup dialog.


4. Return to Print dialog, and click the Page Layout tab page.
5. Select Brochure.
6. For a printer that automatically prints on both sides of a page, 
specify to include All pages.

7. Click OK.
If you print a document in portrait on a landscape page, two opposing 
sides in a brochure will be printed next to each other. If you have a 
printer with double-sided printing capability, you can create an 
entire brochure from your document without having to collate the pages 
later. If you have a printer that only has single-sided printing 
capability, you can achieve this effect by first printing the front 
pages with the Front sides / right pages /odd pages option marked, 
then re-inserting the entire paper stack in your printer and printing 
all the back pages with the Back pages / left pages / even pages 
option marked.


If LibreOffice prints the pages in the wrong order, open the Options 
tab page, select Print in reverse page order, and then print the 
document again.


I hope this is what you are looking for.



I have two printers that prints double sided - HP Laserjet 2300, and 
Epson Artisan 810.  But sometimes the print one side for a stack and 
then print the other side can be faster.


The trick is when you are printing more than one sheet of paper per 
newsletter or small booklet.  Then the order of the pages on each sheet 
is not standard.


For a Newsletter - when you use 2 or 3 sheets of tabloid paper [8 or 12 
pages/faces], the order of the page/faces on the sheets are not the same 
as if you were to print them out as a double-sided document.


sheet 1 side 1 - page 8, 1
sheet 1 side 2 - page 2, 7
sheet 2 side 1 - page 6, 3
sheet 2 side 2 - page 4, 5

So the first tabloid page that is printed, page 8 is on the left and 
page 1 is on the right, then on the reverse side page 2 is on the left 
with page 7 on the right.  That is not the easiest thing to deal with 
manually.  I use to create a template with each side of the sheet 
showing and manually numbered each footer with the proper page number.  
I would love to have some system to do it for me.


In a different posting, David B. listed Gimpose as a package that 
should do it.


The final printout of the document was always in a PDF format for the 
printer's system to use.  They printed, collated, folded, etc., the 
sheets for us.  Most of use do not have personal access to a tabloid 
paper printer.  I have printed newsletters as unfolded letter sized 
sheets, but it looks more professional for the tabloid paper - though it 
does cost more.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread VA
Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I've printed booklets many times 
with OO and I assume Libre works the same.


I begin with US letter size paper, but in my page layout, I set up a custom 
page size, which is essentially one/half the letter size and I keep it on 
portrait.


When printing, I open the print dialog box. Under Properties, I make sure 
the printer is set on landscape.


I then click on the Page Layout tab and check the brochure option. With 
a duplex (double-sided) printer, it prints everything out perfectly and in 
order as a booklet. I then have an extra long stapler that I can use to 
staple in the middle of the letter-sized paper.


It's harder with a single-side printer because you have to either manually 
feed the pages one at a time and flip them over or figure out which order to 
put the stack in after it prints all of one side; that gets a little hairy, 
at least for me.


Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:16 AM
To: LibreO - Users Global
Subject: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?


Since there was the thread about the Book Preview, I was wondering if
there is either an extension out there or a external program that would
print the pages of the document in the correct order for Book Printing.

When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on
each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages
in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and
suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format.

I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid
paper.  I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages
listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document
printing.  I had a template for each page count version of the
newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets.

I would like to find an extension or external package that would print
out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets
instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I
could use a package for either OS.

Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


OK
I am being a bit dumb.

I did not check out the Brochure option for printing.

For me, a brochure was a single sheet of paper divided into 3 columns 
and printed on 2 sides.  It did not go beyond the single sheet.


Newsletters and booklets were more than one sheet.

So I just tested the Brochure printing out with very large numbers on 
each page, one per page representing its page order.  Used 2 pages per 
sheet and the brochure option.


Yes, it works they way I was looking for.

SO
I was all hung up with the term Brochure for a printing option. As I 
said, brochure is a single double sided sheet, and newsletter/booklet 
is for more than one double sided sheets per document.


I have not made a newsletter/booklet with LO yet, except the simple 
double sided portrait documents.  I was asked if I wanted to help with a 
8 or 12 page/face newsletter in the coming few months, so I was looking 
into the options.  Now I just have to work on the column text that 
starts on page one and then flows into page 3 or 4, like magazine and 
other articles do from time to time in newsletters and other documents 
that use a multi-column segmented article format.



On 11/12/2012 10:45 AM, VA wrote:
Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I've printed booklets many 
times with OO and I assume Libre works the same.


I begin with US letter size paper, but in my page layout, I set up a 
custom page size, which is essentially one/half the letter size and I 
keep it on portrait.


When printing, I open the print dialog box. Under Properties, I make 
sure the printer is set on landscape.


I then click on the Page Layout tab and check the brochure option. 
With a duplex (double-sided) printer, it prints everything out 
perfectly and in order as a booklet. I then have an extra long stapler 
that I can use to staple in the middle of the letter-sized paper.


It's harder with a single-side printer because you have to either 
manually feed the pages one at a time and flip them over or figure out 
which order to put the stack in after it prints all of one side; that 
gets a little hairy, at least for me.


Virgil

-Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:16 AM
To: LibreO - Users Global
Subject: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?


Since there was the thread about the Book Preview, I was wondering if
there is either an extension out there or a external program that would
print the pages of the document in the correct order for Book Printing.

When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on
each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages
in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and
suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format.

I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid
paper.  I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages
listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document
printing.  I had a template for each page count version of the
newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets.

I would like to find an extension or external package that would print
out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets
instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I
could use a package for either OS.

Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread VA
I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that older versions of OpenOffice 
had booklet instead of brochure for the printing option.


I haven't printed a booklet in several years, but I walked through it this 
morning before I sent my email and I was surprised to see brochure as the 
option. Again, I remembered it as booklet, but again, my memory may be 
playing tricks on me.


I agree that booklet is more descriptive of what we're trying to 
accomplish, so you're not a bit dumb.


Virgil



-Original Message- 
From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:07 AM
To: LibreO - Users Global
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?


OK
I am being a bit dumb.

I did not check out the Brochure option for printing.

For me, a brochure was a single sheet of paper divided into 3 columns
and printed on 2 sides.  It did not go beyond the single sheet.

Newsletters and booklets were more than one sheet.

So I just tested the Brochure printing out with very large numbers on
each page, one per page representing its page order.  Used 2 pages per
sheet and the brochure option.

Yes, it works they way I was looking for.

SO
I was all hung up with the term Brochure for a printing option. As I
said, brochure is a single double sided sheet, and newsletter/booklet
is for more than one double sided sheets per document.

I have not made a newsletter/booklet with LO yet, except the simple
double sided portrait documents.  I was asked if I wanted to help with a
8 or 12 page/face newsletter in the coming few months, so I was looking
into the options.  Now I just have to work on the column text that
starts on page one and then flows into page 3 or 4, like magazine and
other articles do from time to time in newsletters and other documents
that use a multi-column segmented article format.


On 11/12/2012 10:45 AM, VA wrote:
Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I've printed booklets many 
times with OO and I assume Libre works the same.


I begin with US letter size paper, but in my page layout, I set up a 
custom page size, which is essentially one/half the letter size and I keep 
it on portrait.


When printing, I open the print dialog box. Under Properties, I make 
sure the printer is set on landscape.


I then click on the Page Layout tab and check the brochure option. 
With a duplex (double-sided) printer, it prints everything out perfectly 
and in order as a booklet. I then have an extra long stapler that I can 
use to staple in the middle of the letter-sized paper.


It's harder with a single-side printer because you have to either manually 
feed the pages one at a time and flip them over or figure out which order 
to put the stack in after it prints all of one side; that gets a little 
hairy, at least for me.


Virgil

-Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:16 AM
To: LibreO - Users Global
Subject: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?


Since there was the thread about the Book Preview, I was wondering if
there is either an extension out there or a external program that would
print the pages of the document in the correct order for Book Printing.

When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on
each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages
in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and
suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format.

I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid
paper.  I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages
listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document
printing.  I had a template for each page count version of the
newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets.

I would like to find an extension or external package that would print
out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets
instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I
could use a package for either OS.

Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
I agree the name is a bit strange but some people do use it that way.  I tend 
to find that once i know the type of option i am looking for is likely to exist 
then it's usually possible to figure out which option it is by askign here 
and/or trying out a couple of options to see what they do.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: VA cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com; LibreO - Users Global 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 12 November 2012, 18:20
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?
 
I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that older versions of OpenOffice had 
booklet instead of brochure for the printing option.

I haven't printed a booklet in several years, but I walked through it this 
morning before I sent my email and I was surprised to see brochure as the 
option. Again, I remembered it as booklet, but again, my memory may be 
playing tricks on me.

I agree that booklet is more descriptive of what we're trying to accomplish, 
so you're not a bit dumb.

Virgil



-Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:07 AM
To: LibreO - Users Global
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?


OK
I am being a bit dumb.

I did not check out the Brochure option for printing.

For me, a brochure was a single sheet of paper divided into 3 columns
and printed on 2 sides.  It did not go beyond the single sheet.

Newsletters and booklets were more than one sheet.

So I just tested the Brochure printing out with very large numbers on
each page, one per page representing its page order.  Used 2 pages per
sheet and the brochure option.

Yes, it works they way I was looking for.

SO
I was all hung up with the term Brochure for a printing option. As I
said, brochure is a single double sided sheet, and newsletter/booklet
is for more than one double sided sheets per document.

I have not made a newsletter/booklet with LO yet, except the simple
double sided portrait documents.  I was asked if I wanted to help with a
8 or 12 page/face newsletter in the coming few months, so I was looking
into the options.  Now I just have to work on the column text that
starts on page one and then flows into page 3 or 4, like magazine and
other articles do from time to time in newsletters and other documents
that use a multi-column segmented article format.


On 11/12/2012 10:45 AM, VA wrote:
 Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I've printed booklets many times 
 with OO and I assume Libre works the same.
 
 I begin with US letter size paper, but in my page layout, I set up a custom 
 page size, which is essentially one/half the letter size and I keep it on 
 portrait.
 
 When printing, I open the print dialog box. Under Properties, I make sure 
 the printer is set on landscape.
 
 I then click on the Page Layout tab and check the brochure option. With 
 a duplex (double-sided) printer, it prints everything out perfectly and in 
 order as a booklet. I then have an extra long stapler that I can use to 
 staple in the middle of the letter-sized paper.
 
 It's harder with a single-side printer because you have to either manually 
 feed the pages one at a time and flip them over or figure out which order to 
 put the stack in after it prints all of one side; that gets a little hairy, 
 at least for me.
 
 Virgil
 
 -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:16 AM
 To: LibreO - Users Global
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?
 
 
 Since there was the thread about the Book Preview, I was wondering if
 there is either an extension out there or a external program that would
 print the pages of the document in the correct order for Book Printing.
 
 When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on
 each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages
 in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and
 suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format.
 
 I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid
 paper.  I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages
 listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document
 printing.  I had a template for each page count version of the
 newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets.
 
 I would like to find an extension or external package that would print
 out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets
 instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I
 could use a package for either OS.
 
 Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work?
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for book printing?

2012-11-12 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:07 12/11/2012 -0500, Nobody Noname wrote:
Now I just have to work on the column text that starts on page one 
and then flows into page 3 or 4, like magazine and other articles do 
from time to time in newsletters and other documents that use a 
multi-column segmented article format.


Easy:
o Create text frames at each location.
o Select the first frame - so you see the eight coloured handles.
o Click the Link Frames button in the Frame toolbar.
o Click in the second frame.
o Repeat for further linked frames.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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