Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-14 Thread anne-ology
   You're not alone -
   I too have not figured out the page numbering system;
  [I gave up when templates were mentioned]

   But there are simple solutions although not necessarily efficient;
  either (1) wait until the paper is finished then insert manually;
   or (2) insert manually as you write - in this method you'll
have to redo the numbering at times  ;-)

   or (3) skip the numbering  ;-)

   If anyone actually knows the solution to this problem, I sure wish
he'd respond on-list for all to see -
  and in simple language, please.



From: Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp
Date: Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


(2014/10/13 23:20), som wrote:


  On Monday, 13 October 2014 6:53 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp
 wrote:
 I have a (actually 3) book, where I would like to have NO page numbering
 for the first 3 pages and then start with 1. Conversion to title page
 seems to work only for the first page. Attempts at assigning a self-made
 front matter page style to the first pages fails too. They are and remain
 default style.

 create a new style; say page1.press ctrl-enter two times. now click
 insert - manual break.
 select the option page break; under style option, choose
 page1;change page number to 1.
 in the new page thus created, click on the header and insert page number.

 page number should start now from 1 from fourth page onwards.


 som ..

I am sorry, but I am not really following.
press ctrl+enter two times = naturally creates two blank pages, which I
do not want to have.

AND .. the biggest problem:
I CAN NOT choose the page style. originally it was default for individual
pages.
Now I created, following your advice a new one (called firstP and get that
style for the ENTIRE book.
Trying to select pages and apply a page style (ANY) does not work.
And even though I get a page 1 after the manual break, the three pages
before that are still numbered 1-3.

So far everything is either ALL or NONE. No selection possible.
Where am I missing what?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-14 Thread anne-ology
   and page numbering is where ???



From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net
Date: Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: ny...@hb.tp1.jp

Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
 Good evening
 I am sure, this has been asked (and answered!) before, but I cannot find
 it in the archives.

 I have a (actually 3) book, where I would like to have NO page numbering
 for the first 3 pages and then start with 1.
 Conversion to title page seems to work only for the first page.
 Attempts at assigning a self-made front matter page style to the first
 pages fails too. They are and remain default style.

 Trying to temper with text flow under paragraph styles does not help
 either.
 Either I DO get page numbers, or I DO NOT.
 But so far all attempts (reading through the official documentation) at
 setting the said numbering have failed.

 I assume, there is a little trick to achieve that and I am just too
 stupid to see it.
 Therefore, I would be grateful, if someone could give me one or two
 pointers.

 Thank you.
 Thomas



Hi Thomas,

Take a look at the Writer Guide chapters 4  5 available from here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide

Regards
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-14 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker


On 14/10/14 21:07, anne-ology wrote:

You're not alone -
I too have not figured out the page numbering system;
   


See if this works:

*How do I make my first page a cover or title page and start page 
numbering (Page 1) on the second page of my document?*




1.

   Open a new Writer document.

2.

   Enter some or all of the text that you want on your cover page (or
   simply press the Enter key a few times).

3.

   Press F11 to open the Styles and Formatting window. Choose Page
   Styles from the icons (hover with your pointer on each icon to open
   the note). Double-click on First Page for assigning the First
   Page style to the first page of your document.

4.

   Place the cursor at the end of the first page. Select Insert-Manual
   Break from the menu bar.

5.

   Select Page Break. Then choose the style to use for the next page
   (pick one from the menu - such as Default). Then mark the check
   box called Change page number. In the box below this check box the
   number 1 should appear. Click OK.

6.

   Now you should have two pages. Put the cursor in the second page,
   then select Insert-Footer-Default from the menu bar. A footer area
   will appear on the second page.

7.

   To insert the page number, select: Insert-Fields-Page Numbers. A
   number '1' should appear on the second page of the file.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-14 Thread Dave Barton
anne-ology wrote:
and page numbering is where ???

Writer Guide 4.2 Chapter 4 Page 35 has a very obscure, unrelated 
meaningless heading called Page Numbering.


 From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net
 Date: Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Cc: ny...@hb.tp1.jp

 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
 Good evening
 I am sure, this has been asked (and answered!) before, but I cannot find
 it in the archives.

 I have a (actually 3) book, where I would like to have NO page numbering
 for the first 3 pages and then start with 1.
 Conversion to title page seems to work only for the first page.
 Attempts at assigning a self-made front matter page style to the first
 pages fails too. They are and remain default style.

 Trying to temper with text flow under paragraph styles does not help
 either.
 Either I DO get page numbers, or I DO NOT.
 But so far all attempts (reading through the official documentation) at
 setting the said numbering have failed.

 I assume, there is a little trick to achieve that and I am just too
 stupid to see it.
 Therefore, I would be grateful, if someone could give me one or two
 pointers.

 Thank you.
 Thomas


 Hi Thomas,

 Take a look at the Writer Guide chapters 4  5 available from here:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide

 Regards
 Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-14 Thread anne-ology
   Thanks for responding ...
  yet when I click on that URL, all I see are these titles (listed
below) which mean next to nothing to me  ;-)
 maybe if I explain my thinking when I see this list, others too
will be helped -
 [my comments in parentheses]

  1  Introducing Writer  [I began reading this back-when - I gave up 
started using the program; the trial-by-doing-method]
  2 Setting up Writer  [but since it's already installed on the machine
??? ]
  3 Working with Text  [grammar  typing I know]
  4 Formatting Pages  [but I don't want it to re-format the whole
machine]
  5 Printing, Faxing, Exporting, and E-mailing  [ok, I understand this
one; but have no use for LO doing these functions]
  6 Introduction to Styles  [I began reading this back-when - I gave up
 started using the program; the trial-by-doing-method]
  7 Working with Styles  [???]
  8 Working with Graphics ; Working with Images  [ok, I think I
understand this one; but have no use for LO doing these functions]
  9 Working with Tables  [ok, I understand this one; but have no use
for LO doing these functions]
10 Working with Templates  [I've tried but cannot understand this]
11 Using Mail Merge  [ok, I understand this one; but have no use for LO
doing these functions]
12 Tables of Contents, Indexes, and Bibliographies  [ok, I understand
this one; but I know how to do these without the program's help]
13 Master Documents [???]
14 Working with Fields [???]
15 Using Forms in Writer [???]
16 Customizing Writer [???]
  A Keyboard Shortcuts [but shortcuts don't simplify these machines for
me]



From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net
Date: Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


anne-ology wrote:
and page numbering is where ???

Writer Guide 4.2 Chapter 4 Page 35 has a very obscure, unrelated 
meaningless heading called Page Numbering.


 From: Dave Barton d...@tasit.net
 Date: Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Cc: ny...@hb.tp1.jp

 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
 Good evening
 I am sure, this has been asked (and answered!) before, but I cannot find
 it in the archives.

 I have a (actually 3) book, where I would like to have NO page numbering
 for the first 3 pages and then start with 1.
 Conversion to title page seems to work only for the first page.
 Attempts at assigning a self-made front matter page style to the first
 pages fails too. They are and remain default style.

 Trying to temper with text flow under paragraph styles does not help
 either.
 Either I DO get page numbers, or I DO NOT.
 But so far all attempts (reading through the official documentation) at
 setting the said numbering have failed.

 I assume, there is a little trick to achieve that and I am just too
 stupid to see it.
 Therefore, I would be grateful, if someone could give me one or two
 pointers.

 Thank you.
 Thomas


 Hi Thomas,

 Take a look at the Writer Guide chapters 4  5 available from here:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide

 Regards
 Dave


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[libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-13 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz
Good evening
I am sure, this has been asked (and answered!) before, but I cannot find
it in the archives.

I have a (actually 3) book, where I would like to have NO page numbering
for the first 3 pages and then start with 1.
Conversion to title page seems to work only for the first page.
Attempts at assigning a self-made front matter page style to the first
pages fails too. They are and remain default style.

Trying to temper with text flow under paragraph styles does not help
either.
Either I DO get page numbers, or I DO NOT.
But so far all attempts (reading through the official documentation) at
setting the said numbering have failed.

I assume, there is a little trick to achieve that and I am just too
stupid to see it.
Therefore, I would be grateful, if someone could give me one or two
pointers.

Thank you.
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-13 Thread som



 On Monday, 13 October 2014 6:53 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp 
 wrote:
 G ood evening
 I am sure, this has been asked (and answered!) before, but I cannot find
 it in the archives.
 
 I have a (actually 3) book, where I would like to have NO page numbering
 for the first 3 pages and then start with 1.
 Conversion to title page seems to work only for the first page.
 Attempts at assigning a self-made front matter page style to the 
 first
 pages fails too. They are and remain default style.
 

create a new style; say page1.press ctrl-enter two times. now click insert - 
manual break.
select the option page break; under style option, choose page1;change 
page number to 1. 
in the new page thus created, click on the header and insert page number. 

page number should start now from 1 from fourth page onwards. 


 Trying to temper with text flow under paragraph styles does not help
 either.
 Either I DO get page numbers, or I DO NOT.
 But so far all attempts (reading through the official documentation) at
 setting the said numbering have failed.
 
 I assume, there is a little trick to achieve that and I am just too
 stupid to see it.
 Therefore, I would be grateful, if someone could give me one or two
 pointers.
 
 Thank you.
 Thomas
regards,

som

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Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-13 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

(2014/10/13 23:20), som wrote:



On Monday, 13 October 2014 6:53 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz ny...@hb.tp1.jp wrote:
I have a (actually 3) book, where I would like to have NO page 
numbering for the first 3 pages and then start with 1. Conversion 
to title page seems to work only for the first page. Attempts at 
assigning a self-made front matter page style to the first pages 
fails too. They are and remain default style. 

create a new style; say page1.press ctrl-enter two times. now click insert - 
manual break.
select the option page break; under style option, choose page1;change page 
number to 1.
in the new page thus created, click on the header and insert page number.

page number should start now from 1 from fourth page onwards.


som .. 

I am sorry, but I am not really following.
press ctrl+enter two times = naturally creates two blank pages, which 
I do not want to have.


AND .. the biggest problem:
I CAN NOT choose the page style. originally it was default for 
individual pages.
Now I created, following your advice a new one (called firstP and get 
that style for the ENTIRE book.

Trying to select pages and apply a page style (ANY) does not work.
And even though I get a page 1 after the manual break, the three pages 
before that are still numbered 1-3.


So far everything is either ALL or NONE. No selection possible.
Where am I missing what?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] no numbering for first pages

2014-10-13 Thread Dave Barton
Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
 Good evening
 I am sure, this has been asked (and answered!) before, but I cannot find
 it in the archives.
 
 I have a (actually 3) book, where I would like to have NO page numbering
 for the first 3 pages and then start with 1.
 Conversion to title page seems to work only for the first page.
 Attempts at assigning a self-made front matter page style to the first
 pages fails too. They are and remain default style.
 
 Trying to temper with text flow under paragraph styles does not help
 either.
 Either I DO get page numbers, or I DO NOT.
 But so far all attempts (reading through the official documentation) at
 setting the said numbering have failed.
 
 I assume, there is a little trick to achieve that and I am just too
 stupid to see it.
 Therefore, I would be grateful, if someone could give me one or two
 pointers.
 
 Thank you.
 Thomas

Hi Thomas,

Take a look at the Writer Guide chapters 4  5 available from here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide

Regards
Dave



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