Re: [SOLVED] Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-27 Thread V Stuart Foote

On 2024-03-27 10:10, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

...
Well, it seems I found a better, more elegant solution.
Only a few days I discovered "by accident" the tiny three horizontal 
bars in the upper right corner of the 'side panel'.
If you click on those, a number of options appear, the first of which 
is "properties".


HERE the funny attributes of the style (ONE incident!) that went 
haywire were displayed and could be changed!

That was all.
Isn't it funny, nobody ever mentioned this little trick?


That entire UI feature is known as the the Sidebar [1]. It hosts a 
framework of 'Decks' that can be collapsed or expanded.
And each deck can contain multiple 'Content panels'. Navigation to the 
Decks is via the vertical Tab bar--the top button is the 'Properties' 
deck.


A picture is worthwhile so see this Wiki image over to grasp the 
terminology and layout [2]


The Sidebar has several viewing modes Shown, Hidden, Collapsed to vert 
Tab bar, or undocked to float--controlled from the "hamburger" icon 
you'd clicked. Sounds like you'd had it collapsed to its vertical tab 
bar.


The 'Spotlight' checkbox mentioned earlier appears on the SB 'Styles' 
Deck, directly reachable via shortcut . While at present (24.2 and 
24.8 builds) the 'Character Direct Formatting' is only available on the 
main toolbar 'Format' -> 'Spotlight' menu.


But the associated UNO commands can be assigned via the menu Tools -> 
Customize to other Menu, Toolbar, Context-menu, or Keyboard shortcuts.

Relevant UNO commands are:
.uno:SpotlightParaStyles (since 24.2)
.uno:SpotlightCharStyles (since 24.2)
.uno:HighlightCharDF (since 7.6)

Also the SB delivers the 'Style Inspector' Deck, kind of a new feature. 
It follows the position of the Edit cursor in the document and lists the 
Paragraph, Character style applied at the cursor position. It also will 
list any Direct Formatting applied (to character or to paragraph).  
Unfortunately at present it does not provide the same colored visual 
hints as the 'Spotlight' widgets. But it is still useful especially if 
you get more advanced in working with styling your documents.


Stuart

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[1] 
https://help.libreoffice.org/24.2/en-US/text/shared/01/menu_view_sidebar.html?=SHARED=WIN
[2] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO-HIG_SideeBar-Terminology.png


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[SOLVED] Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-27 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2024/03/27 21:07, W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof. wrote:
Thomas: If upgrading to the latest version (now version 24.2) doesn't 
help, could you make the document available somewhere?


- Robert




Good evening from Japan
Well, it seems I found a better, more elegant solution.
Only a few days I discovered "by accident" the tiny three horizontal 
bars in the upper right corner of the 'side panel'.
If you click on those, a number of options appear, the first of which is 
"properties".


HERE the funny attributes of the style (ONE incident!) that went haywire 
were displayed and could be changed!

That was all.
Isn't it funny, nobody ever mentioned this little trick?

Maybe this helps if somebody else has similar problems.

Cheers
(actually, I have still more questions, but it is too late in the night 
already)

Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-27 Thread W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.
Stuart: Thanks for pointing out this new Spotlight feature. I'd somehow missed 
seeing it in the release notes. (The release notes refer to Highlight rather 
than Spotlight.) It tells you that some direct formatting exists but it doesn't 
seem to say what it is or where it is. (I have an example where it says there's 
direct formatting for some paragraphs but I can't find any format changes.)

Thomas: If upgrading to the latest version (now version 24.2) doesn't help, 
could you make the document available somewhere?

- Robert


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On 2024-03-26 22:29, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

> Using: Libreoffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10, the text is in English, but
> includes a few Chinese characters
>
> -> Well, I know only the heading style and naturally the page style.
> If there is something else somewhere, how do I find out what that is -
> and how do I correct it?

Project has implemented new Style visualization "Spotlight" for applied
Paragraph and Character styling.
Also for text spans with Direct Formatting.

Reachable from the F11 - Style deck of the Sidebar (checkbox bottom
right), and as menu entries via the main Format -> Spotlight

Available at the 7.6.0 release, so time to update. See the release
notes: 
https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.documentfoundation.org%2FReleaseNotes%2F7.6%23Writer=05%7C02%7Crobert.funnell%40mcgill.ca%7C9c8ed98bbe754ed197c608dc4e4cafba%7Ccd31967152e74a68afa9fcf8f89f09ea%7C0%7C0%7C638471338478244869%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C=FC%2BsQtD787nrzkuIEKU904VNiZ7SxbRoMraK4K5%2Fnko%3D=0<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.6#Writer>

Regards,

Stuart

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From: V Stuart Foote 
Sent: March 27, 2024 06:56
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

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On 2024-03-26 22:29, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

> Using: Libreoffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10, the text is in English, but
> includes a few Chinese characters
>
> -> Well, I know only the heading style and naturally the page style.
> If there is something else somewhere, how do I find out what that is -
> and how do I correct it?

Project has implemented new Style visualization "Spotlight" for applied
Paragraph and Character styling.
Also for text spans with Direct Formatting.

Reachable from the F11 - Style deck of the S

Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-27 Thread V Stuart Foote

Thomas, *

On 2024-03-26 22:29, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Using: Libreoffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10, the text is in English, but 
includes a few Chinese characters


-> Well, I know only the heading style and naturally the page style.
If there is something else somewhere, how do I find out what that is - 
and how do I correct it?


Project has implemented new Style visualization "Spotlight" for applied 
Paragraph and Character styling.

Also for text spans with Direct Formatting.

Reachable from the F11 - Style deck of the Sidebar (checkbox bottom 
right), and as menu entries via the main Format -> Spotlight


Available at the 7.6.0 release, so time to update. See the release 
notes: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.6#Writer


Regards,

Stuart

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-27 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Hi,

I meet this behavior from time to time.

To fix the ill-behaved paragraph, I do this:
1. Ctrl+M to clean the possible manual formatting
2. Set Body Text style
3. Set the wanted style again.

To-date, this has always worked here. YMMV.

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Le 27/03/2024 à 03:29, Thomas Blasejewicz a écrit :

On 2024/03/06 19:23, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
I am working on a book and applied
* chapter styles
* heading styles
and a few not so important other styles.

Question:
The chapter style specifies a certain font and font size, plus italic.
For each chapter the little dialog box in the left upper corner shows 
the style name, font name and font size I specified.
However I noticed, that for some chapters even though style name etc. 
is as I specified, the actually used font and font size are different.

Trying Ctrl+M and then applying my style does NOT help.

Why is it, that a certain style produces two different appearances?
What can I do to get the same style for all chapters.
That will be required later when I set up an table of contents.

Using: Libreoffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10, the text is in English, but 
includes a few Chinese characters


Yes, I did ask this before
Everything (almost) went fine for a while, now the problem reappeared.
Among all the chapter headings just ONE refuses to use the specified 
font etc.

Reapplying the style does not help.
Deleting either the heading alone or some text around it does not help 
either.
When I tried to edit = delete the style, I got the error message that 
doing so will delete ONE OF THE USED styles,

which then will affect all other places where that style is used.
-> Well, I know only the heading style and naturally the page style.
If there is something else somewhere, how do I find out what that is - 
and how do I correct it?


Thank you




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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-26 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2024/03/06 19:23, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
I am working on a book and applied
* chapter styles
* heading styles
and a few not so important other styles.

Question:
The chapter style specifies a certain font and font size, plus italic.
For each chapter the little dialog box in the left upper corner shows 
the style name, font name and font size I specified.
However I noticed, that for some chapters even though style name etc. 
is as I specified, the actually used font and font size are different.

Trying Ctrl+M and then applying my style does NOT help.

Why is it, that a certain style produces two different appearances?
What can I do to get the same style for all chapters.
That will be required later when I set up an table of contents.

Using: Libreoffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10, the text is in English, but 
includes a few Chinese characters


Yes, I did ask this before
Everything (almost) went fine for a while, now the problem reappeared.
Among all the chapter headings just ONE refuses to use the specified 
font etc.

Reapplying the style does not help.
Deleting either the heading alone or some text around it does not help 
either.
When I tried to edit = delete the style, I got the error message that 
doing so will delete ONE OF THE USED styles,

which then will affect all other places where that style is used.
-> Well, I know only the heading style and naturally the page style.
If there is something else somewhere, how do I find out what that is - 
and how do I correct it?


Thank you

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-07 Thread Philip Jackson

On 06/03/2024 15:01, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2024/03/06 22:55, Philip Jackson wrote:

When you say you have applied chapter styles, are you talking about a 
particular heading sty;le for the beginning of a chapter or are you talking 
about a particular page style for the first page of a chapter?

I would typically use a Heading 1 style for the chapter heading and would 
modify it to include things like font size and style, page break before, set up 
a larger space before the heading and set the outline level at 1. And then I 
would have a special page style for that page with no header and right hand 
only.

I don't ever recall having had the variable font output that you mention.

It would be good to see an example of your problem.

Philip


Thank you.
Yes, I used a Heading 2 style (already my custom style) to create a style for 
CHAPTER TITLES with said font and font size settings.
Sample: I don't think I can attach a file here on the list.
Would a link to a file on Google drive etc. help?
Thomas


You're right in that you can't attach files in this list.  Google docs link 
should do it.
Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-06 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2024/03/06 22:55, Philip Jackson wrote:
When you say you have applied chapter styles, are you talking about a 
particular heading sty;le for the beginning of a chapter or are you 
talking about a particular page style for the first page of a chapter?


I would typically use a Heading 1 style for the chapter heading and 
would modify it to include things like font size and style, page break 
before, set up a larger space before the heading and set the outline 
level at 1. And then I would have a special page style for that page 
with no header and right hand only.


I don't ever recall having had the variable font output that you mention.

It would be good to see an example of your problem.

Philip


Thank you.
Yes, I used a Heading 2 style (already my custom style) to create a 
style for CHAPTER TITLES with said font and font size settings.

Sample: I don't think I can attach a file here on the list.
Would a link to a file on Google drive etc. help?
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-06 Thread Philip Jackson

When you say you have applied chapter styles, are you talking about a 
particular heading sty;le for the beginning of a chapter or are you talking 
about a particular page style for the first page of a chapter?

I would typically use a Heading 1 style for the chapter heading and would 
modify it to include things like font size and style, page break before, set up 
a larger space before the heading and set the outline level at 1. And then I 
would have a special page style for that page with no header and right hand 
only.

I don't ever recall having had the variable font output that you mention.

It would be good to see an example of your problem.

Philip

On 06/03/2024 11:23, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good evening
I am working on a book and applied
* chapter styles
* heading styles
and a few not so important other styles.

Question:
The chapter style specifies a certain font and font size, plus italic.
For each chapter the little dialog box in the left upper corner shows the style 
name, font name and font size I specified.
However I noticed, that for some chapters even though style name etc. is as I 
specified, the actually used font and font size are different.
Trying Ctrl+M and then applying my style does NOT help.

Why is it, that a certain style produces two different appearances?
What can I do to get the same style for all chapters.
That will be required later when I set up an table of contents.

Thank you.
Thomas



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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-06 Thread Ian Bertram
I have had a similar issue with styles I have defined. It's been happening
irregularly for a few years, but I have never found any pattern or trigger
for this behaviour.

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, 10:40 Robert Großkopf, 
wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
> >
> > Why is it, that a certain style produces two different appearances?
> > What can I do to get the same style for all chapters.
> > That will be required later when I set up an table of contents.
>
> Please upload an example somewhere in the web, which shows this
> behavior. Or: Write in ask.libreoffice.org. There you could upload files.
>
> Regards
>
> Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-06 Thread Robert Großkopf

Hi Thomas,


Why is it, that a certain style produces two different appearances?
What can I do to get the same style for all chapters.
That will be required later when I set up an table of contents.


Please upload an example somewhere in the web, which shows this 
behavior. Or: Write in ask.libreoffice.org. There you could upload files.


Regards

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[libreoffice-users] paragraph style

2024-03-06 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

Good evening
I am working on a book and applied
* chapter styles
* heading styles
and a few not so important other styles.

Question:
The chapter style specifies a certain font and font size, plus italic.
For each chapter the little dialog box in the left upper corner shows 
the style name, font name and font size I specified.
However I noticed, that for some chapters even though style name etc. is 
as I specified, the actually used font and font size are different.

Trying Ctrl+M and then applying my style does NOT help.

Why is it, that a certain style produces two different appearances?
What can I do to get the same style for all chapters.
That will be required later when I set up an table of contents.

Thank you.
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph Style: Heading. Master Doc Inserting Unwanted Page Break Between Title on Two Lines

2016-09-25 Thread Philip Jackson
On 25/09/16 14:21, Brooks wrote:
> I'm formatting a master document.
> 
> My chapter headings are like this:
> "CHAPTER 1
> Blah Blah Blah
> 
> textbody_textbody_etc_etc"
> 
> When I update the master doc LO inserts a page break between the 2 headings
> on separate lines, so:
> "CHAPTER 1"
> .page break
> "Blah Blah Blah
> 
> textbody_textbody_etc_etc"
> 
> If I manually delete the page break, when I update the master doc it gets
> re-inserted.

Just a short query, are you really sure you need the added complexity of
a master document plus chapter documents?

I started out on this basis for a book because it seemed a nice and
logical thing to do. But then found that it was not necessary.

LO Writer can handle easily a technical document with some 15 chapters,
70 diagrams, Table of Contents with 3 or 4 levels, alphabetical index
etc with no difficulty.

Of course your requirements may well be different.

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph Style: Heading. Master Doc Inserting Unwanted Page Break Between Title on Two Lines

2016-09-25 Thread Ricardo

El 2016-09-25 14:21, Brooks escribió:

Hello (world - 1st post. Many more to come I feel:)

I'm formatting a master document.

My chapter headings are like this:
"CHAPTER 1
Blah Blah Blah

textbody_textbody_etc_etc"

When I update the master doc LO inserts a page break between the 2 
headings

on separate lines, so:
"CHAPTER 1"
.page break
"Blah Blah Blah

textbody_textbody_etc_etc"

If I manually delete the page break, when I update the master doc it 
gets

re-inserted.

So, dear community - how do I fix this please?

Cheers,

Brooks





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Definition of styles on the master have precedence over styles of the 
same name defined on sub-documents. Check the definition of your heading 
style on the master → Text flow tab to see if there is any automated 
page break set there. If that do not solve the problem, please try to 
create a minimum example (the master and one sub-document with just a 
bit of dummy text) and upload it anywhere so we can see what's going on.


Regards,
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[libreoffice-users] Paragraph Style: Heading. Master Doc Inserting Unwanted Page Break Between Title on Two Lines

2016-09-25 Thread Brooks
Hello (world - 1st post. Many more to come I feel:)

I'm formatting a master document.

My chapter headings are like this:
"CHAPTER 1
Blah Blah Blah

textbody_textbody_etc_etc"

When I update the master doc LO inserts a page break between the 2 headings
on separate lines, so:
"CHAPTER 1"
.page break
"Blah Blah Blah

textbody_textbody_etc_etc"

If I manually delete the page break, when I update the master doc it gets
re-inserted.

So, dear community - how do I fix this please?

Cheers,

Brooks





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