Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
Heh! Heh! yes force of habit clicking "Reply All" when I see multiple names, instead of "Reply to list" as I have done now, and I do use Thunderbird :-P Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 02:36 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: And you did it again. Best is to use an email client that actually supports Reply-To-List (like Thunderbird). On 2013-08-01 8:11 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: Apologies Tanstaafl, I replied to all. I must have replied directly to you as well as the list Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:51 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Please don't send to me directly, I'm on the list. Thanks On 2013-08-01 7:44 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Tanstaafl Yes, a good choice, I forgot about UltraDefrag. Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:26 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Someone had asked about a free/FOSS defragger... There is UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html I don't use it much, but thats only because disk fragmentation is not nearly as big of a problem on modern systems as it used to be. Windows7+ does a pretty good job of avoiding fragmentation all on its own. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
Hi :) It is awkward but it's the way the list has been set-up. We just need to delete twice per message rather than just once. We can't really expect people to change email-clients just in order to post to this list! That would be absurd. It might be good to start-up a petition about getting the list set-up back to the way it was when it all worked magically whichever emailer people used. Btw good call re: NOT feeding the troll. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Tanstaafl >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013, 13:36 >Subject: Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 > > >And you did it again. > >Best is to use an email client that actually supports Reply-To-List >(like Thunderbird). > >On 2013-08-01 8:11 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: >> Apologies Tanstaafl, I replied to all. I must have replied directly to >> you as well as the list >> >> Regards >> >> Andrew Brown >> >> On 01/08/2013 01:51 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> Please don't send to me directly, I'm on the list. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> On 2013-08-01 7:44 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: >>>> Hi Tanstaafl >>>> >>>> Yes, a good choice, I forgot about UltraDefrag. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Andrew Brown >>>> >>>> On 01/08/2013 01:26 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >>>>> Someone had asked about a free/FOSS defragger... >>>>> >>>>> There is UltraDefrag: >>>>> >>>>> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html >>>>> >>>>> I don't use it much, but thats only because disk fragmentation is not >>>>> nearly as big of a problem on modern systems as it used to be. >>>>> >>>>> Windows7+ does a pretty good job of avoiding fragmentation all on its >>>>> own. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
And you did it again. Best is to use an email client that actually supports Reply-To-List (like Thunderbird). On 2013-08-01 8:11 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: Apologies Tanstaafl, I replied to all. I must have replied directly to you as well as the list Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:51 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Please don't send to me directly, I'm on the list. Thanks On 2013-08-01 7:44 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Tanstaafl Yes, a good choice, I forgot about UltraDefrag. Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:26 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Someone had asked about a free/FOSS defragger... There is UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html I don't use it much, but thats only because disk fragmentation is not nearly as big of a problem on modern systems as it used to be. Windows7+ does a pretty good job of avoiding fragmentation all on its own. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
Apologies Tanstaafl, I replied to all. I must have replied directly to you as well as the list Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:51 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Please don't send to me directly, I'm on the list. Thanks On 2013-08-01 7:44 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Tanstaafl Yes, a good choice, I forgot about UltraDefrag. Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:26 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Someone had asked about a free/FOSS defragger... There is UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html I don't use it much, but thats only because disk fragmentation is not nearly as big of a problem on modern systems as it used to be. Windows7+ does a pretty good job of avoiding fragmentation all on its own. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
Please don't send to me directly, I'm on the list. Thanks On 2013-08-01 7:44 AM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Tanstaafl Yes, a good choice, I forgot about UltraDefrag. Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:26 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Someone had asked about a free/FOSS defragger... There is UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html I don't use it much, but thats only because disk fragmentation is not nearly as big of a problem on modern systems as it used to be. Windows7+ does a pretty good job of avoiding fragmentation all on its own. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
Hi Tanstaafl Yes, a good choice, I forgot about UltraDefrag. Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:26 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Someone had asked about a free/FOSS defragger... There is UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html I don't use it much, but thats only because disk fragmentation is not nearly as big of a problem on modern systems as it used to be. Windows7+ does a pretty good job of avoiding fragmentation all on its own. On 2013-07-31 6:42 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Tom No it's payware https://www.disktrix.com/ but well worth the $30.00, and only necessary for Windows. If you do want to care again, and want a very good free version then Piriform's Defraggler is a great product http://www.piriform.com/. They've recently gone to a payware model, but still keep to their freeware versions, and they have three other great tools, CCleaner, Recuva and Speccy, also freeware or payware versions. I use them all in Windows (except Defraggler on my system as this is replaced with UD) as well as for friends and clients, and have never needed their payware versions. And they have never let me down, in trashing any systems I have used them on for the last five years. Yep, my Ubuntu, with the pause at the login screen included and the fastest I can type my password, takes all of 20 seconds, shutdown about 10 seconds. Agreed Windows still has it's place, and I have to be familiar with it due to my business and support of my clients. I even have an old PowerMac to keep up to date with my few clients using Macs. Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 12:25 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Is Disktrix UltimateDefrag free? FOSS? Lol, somehow i doubt it but i keep an ear out jic. I tend to use the inbuilt Windows one. I don't really care enough anymore to go beyond that. When i did used to care i used PerfectDisk. it usually has a 1 month free trial and that was usually enough for me. Nowadays i just really prefer to just do a reasonably good job and since that is far, far ahead of the way most systems are set-up i just settle for that. I've even found a tendency for ones in England to be set to US localisation and such. If i want a fast system i just reboot into Gnu&Linux. Windows has other advantages but speed and security are not top of the list! Eskimos have a lot of words for snow and ice because they see a lot of it all. Windows has a lot of words for different security issues because it suffers from tons of different things. [shrugs] I still use Windows quite a bit though because when you know a thing's flaws it's usually easier to cope. Like going round to see a cat owner who insists their cat is always free of fleas, you just know you are going to get bitten so you just deal with it. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Andrew Brown *To:* Tom Davies *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 23:01 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi Tom Ah Ok, I see, this is the same methodology I'm using. I generally turn off the swap file for a badly defragged drive, including any hibernation files etc if active or used on a laptop, then defrag (Disktrix UltimateDefrag, possibly the best I've used to date). After a good clean-up I then set the pagefile and any hibernation files if necessary. With UD's FragProtect, this only has to be done every few months, and they are one of the few defraggers that can defrag and place the MFT at the beginning of the drive along with the folders entries, ahead of any data. But this has to be done with a reboot and MS pre-install mode (UD does it all automatically) to complete this task. And I've benched my drives on all of my systems, it certainly makes for very fast boot and shutdown times, and better stability. Regards Andrew Brown On 31/07/2013 10:52 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > wrt Virtual Memory/pagefile.sys/Swap on Windows the trick seems to be to set it as a fixed value. > > Find > "System Properties" - Advanced tab - Performance (top 3rd) Settings - Performance Settings - Advanced tab here too - Virtual Memory (bottom section) Change > There will be about 3 pop-ups open around now. > > Use the radio buttons there to change to a "Custom size". This really needs to be greater than Ram but not more than 2xRam (else it gets confused and may even reduce performance while tripping over it's own shoelaces). It has to be greater than Ram because when hibernating (perhaps sleeping too?) the contents of Ram gets written to Virtual Memory. But giving it too much just confuses space just confuses things so just under 2xRam is good but over that might get annoying. Make sure the same number is in both the top and bottom boxes. Often there is a recommendation for how
OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
Someone had asked about a free/FOSS defragger... There is UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/en/index.html I don't use it much, but thats only because disk fragmentation is not nearly as big of a problem on modern systems as it used to be. Windows7+ does a pretty good job of avoiding fragmentation all on its own. On 2013-07-31 6:42 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: Hi Tom No it's payware https://www.disktrix.com/ but well worth the $30.00, and only necessary for Windows. If you do want to care again, and want a very good free version then Piriform's Defraggler is a great product http://www.piriform.com/. They've recently gone to a payware model, but still keep to their freeware versions, and they have three other great tools, CCleaner, Recuva and Speccy, also freeware or payware versions. I use them all in Windows (except Defraggler on my system as this is replaced with UD) as well as for friends and clients, and have never needed their payware versions. And they have never let me down, in trashing any systems I have used them on for the last five years. Yep, my Ubuntu, with the pause at the login screen included and the fastest I can type my password, takes all of 20 seconds, shutdown about 10 seconds. Agreed Windows still has it's place, and I have to be familiar with it due to my business and support of my clients. I even have an old PowerMac to keep up to date with my few clients using Macs. Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 12:25 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Is Disktrix UltimateDefrag free? FOSS? Lol, somehow i doubt it but i keep an ear out jic. I tend to use the inbuilt Windows one. I don't really care enough anymore to go beyond that. When i did used to care i used PerfectDisk. it usually has a 1 month free trial and that was usually enough for me. Nowadays i just really prefer to just do a reasonably good job and since that is far, far ahead of the way most systems are set-up i just settle for that. I've even found a tendency for ones in England to be set to US localisation and such. If i want a fast system i just reboot into Gnu&Linux. Windows has other advantages but speed and security are not top of the list! Eskimos have a lot of words for snow and ice because they see a lot of it all. Windows has a lot of words for different security issues because it suffers from tons of different things. [shrugs] I still use Windows quite a bit though because when you know a thing's flaws it's usually easier to cope. Like going round to see a cat owner who insists their cat is always free of fleas, you just know you are going to get bitten so you just deal with it. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Andrew Brown *To:* Tom Davies *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 23:01 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi Tom Ah Ok, I see, this is the same methodology I'm using. I generally turn off the swap file for a badly defragged drive, including any hibernation files etc if active or used on a laptop, then defrag (Disktrix UltimateDefrag, possibly the best I've used to date). After a good clean-up I then set the pagefile and any hibernation files if necessary. With UD's FragProtect, this only has to be done every few months, and they are one of the few defraggers that can defrag and place the MFT at the beginning of the drive along with the folders entries, ahead of any data. But this has to be done with a reboot and MS pre-install mode (UD does it all automatically) to complete this task. And I've benched my drives on all of my systems, it certainly makes for very fast boot and shutdown times, and better stability. Regards Andrew Brown On 31/07/2013 10:52 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > wrt Virtual Memory/pagefile.sys/Swap on Windows the trick seems to be to set it as a fixed value. > > Find > "System Properties" - Advanced tab - Performance (top 3rd) Settings - Performance Settings - Advanced tab here too - Virtual Memory (bottom section) Change > There will be about 3 pop-ups open around now. > > Use the radio buttons there to change to a "Custom size". This really needs to be greater than Ram but not more than 2xRam (else it gets confused and may even reduce performance while tripping over it's own shoelaces). It has to be greater than Ram because when hibernating (perhaps sleeping too?) the contents of Ram gets written to Virtual Memory. But giving it too much just confuses space just confuses things so just under 2xRam is good but over that might get annoying. Make sure the same number is in both the top and bottom boxes. Often there is a recommendation for how much to set it too and it's usually not a bad idea to follow that advice. I've only seen it give a crazy suggestion once or
