Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-02-03 Thread anne-ology
   very cute responses, from a very cute responder  ;-)
   [see my further responses [] below]



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, anne-ology wrote:
>
>remote controls ...  ;-)
>>   well, to me remote controls are as silly as remote auto.
>> windows ... ... ...  ;-)
>>
>
> I know you like joshing around, all in fun. still, being able to move
> around in a room where you are giving a presentation can add life to the
> proceedings or at least startle the nodding heads.


   [wandering 'round the room ... when did he jump off the stage - did
he knock o'er the podium to get to the audience;
or are you perchance wandering 'round the schoolroom or in a
committee meeting  ;-)]


>
>
>yes, I like walking ... I like horses ... I like front-porch
>> communication ...
>>   and yes, I guess I'll always refer to these machines as
>> 'glorified typewriters'; was I born a hundred years too late  ;-)
>>
>
> I've got two typewriters from the 20's and 30's and since I've been seeing
> your phrase about 'glorified typewriters', I've been trying to figure out
> how to do calculations on them, download videos with them and send what I
> write to remote contacts instantaneously.
>

   [ah, those slide rules were not as efficient as the adding machine -
then along came the hand-held, electronic calculator;
   news reels were played in the movie houses between non-stop
showings of the movie, which stayed for about a month before moving on to
smaller towns, ... ... ... ;
   letters & packages were sent through the mails with minimal
postage - couple of cents  ;-) ]


>
> guess I'd be more inclined to say the keyboard is a 'glorified typewriter'.
>

   [well, thanks to those, my typing definitely improved -
   & it sure does help to see any errors rather than having to
re-type after erasing and/or white-inking them]


>
> I do love those typewriters though! but I don't miss them.
>

   [yep, ya' cute  ;-)]


>
> F.
>
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>
> I did not believe in reincarnation the last time either.


   [good summation  ;-)]

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-02-03 Thread Felmon Davis

On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, anne-ology wrote:


  remote controls ...  ;-)
  well, to me remote controls are as silly as remote auto. 
windows ... ... ...  ;-)


I know you like joshing around, all in fun. still, being able to move 
around in a room where you are giving a presentation can add life to 
the proceedings or at least startle the nodding heads.



  yes, I like walking ... I like horses ... I like front-porch
communication ...
  and yes, I guess I'll always refer to these machines as
'glorified typewriters'; was I born a hundred years too late  ;-)


I've got two typewriters from the 20's and 30's and since I've been 
seeing your phrase about 'glorified typewriters', I've been trying to 
figure out how to do calculations on them, download videos with them 
and send what I write to remote contacts instantaneously.


guess I'd be more inclined to say the keyboard is a 'glorified 
typewriter'.


I do love those typewriters though! but I don't miss them.

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-02-01 Thread anne-ology
   remote controls ...  ;-)
   well, to me remote controls are as silly as remote auto. windows
... ... ...  ;-)

   yes, I like walking ... I like horses ... I like front-porch
communication ...
   and yes, I guess I'll always refer to these machines as
'glorified typewriters'; was I born a hundred years too late  ;-)



On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
> There was something about being able to use Android phones as a remote
> control device for running Impress slideshows.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>   --
> *From:* anne-ology 
> *To:* Tom 
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:41
>
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to
> PowerPoint?
>
>Huh ???
>
>I've been impressed with IMPRESS over MsFt's since I found it has
> more options, including the ability to save to whatever;
> although saving to MsFt's loses some of those options - as
> audio additions, and many of IMPRESS' transitional effects are also not
> recognized by MsFt ...
>
>I don't understand the comment re. Android - I've heard the name,
> along with these fruit-names, yet have not acquired any of these yet  ;-)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
>
> Hi :)
> Have you checked your glasses for roses?  That is about the first time i
> have heard anyone saying they thought Impress is actually better in terms
> of functionality.  Especially going back a few years.
>
> I thought a lot of progress had been made over the last year and this new
> remote-control feature if it's on Gnu&Linux and you are using an Android
> all sounds intriguing.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>   --------------
> *From:* anne-ology 
>
> *To:* Gilles 
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 23:48
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to
> PowerPoint?
>
>   IMPRESS does more, has more options; and has been my favorite for
> years;
>   it also allows for saving to PP, etc. - for those who refuse to
> leave MSFT  ;-)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Gilles  wrote:
>
> Hello
> >
> > Before possibly recommending LibreOffice to a friend who needs an office
> > suite for her personal use, I need to know how  good its Impress
> component
> > is compared to PowerPoint.
> >
> > She won't need to create very sophisticated slides, and won't need to
> > import
> > PowerPoint files. It's just to create some presentations for her class.
> She
> > has regular office skills, she's not a geek.
> >
> > If you have extensive experience with both PowerPoint and Impress, would
> > you
> > say Impress is good enough or still lacking?
> >
> > Here's a review:
> > "Admittedly, PowerPoint still outperforms Impress, yet not by such an
> > extent
> > that the difference couldn't be overcome in a release or two. In fact,
> the
> > lack of improvements in Impress over the last few years -- particularly
> in
> > its audio capabilities -- suggests that for most users the deficiencies
> are
> > unimportant."
> >
> >
> >
> www.datamation.com/open-source/libreoffice-vs.-ms-office-spreadsheets-and-slide-shows-1.html
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-01-31 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There was something about being able to use Android phones as a remote control 
device for running Impress slideshows.
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Tom  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:41
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?
> 
>
>   Huh ???
>
>   I've been impressed with IMPRESS over MsFt's since I found it has more 
>options, including the ability to save to whatever;
>    although saving to MsFt's loses some of those options - as audio 
>additions, and many of IMPRESS' transitional effects are also not recognized 
>by MsFt ... 
>
>   I don't understand the comment re. Android - I've heard the name, along 
>with these fruit-names, yet have not acquired any of these yet  ;-)
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>
>
>Hi :)
>>Have you checked your glasses for roses?  That is about the first time i have 
>>heard anyone saying they thought Impress is actually better in terms of 
>>functionality.  Especially going back a few years.  
>>
>>I thought a lot of progress had been made over the last year and this new 
>>remote-control feature if it's on Gnu&Linux and you are using an Android all 
>>sounds intriguing.  
>>Regards from
>>Tom :)  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>____
>>> From: anne-ology 
>>>
>>>To: Gilles  
>>>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 23:48
>>>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?
>>> 
>>>
>>>       IMPRESS does more, has more options; and has been my favorite for
>>>years;
>>>           it also allows for saving to PP, etc. - for those who refuse to
>>>leave MSFT  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Gilles  wrote:
>>>
>>>Hello
>>>>
>>>> Before possibly recommending LibreOffice to
 a friend who needs an office
>>>> suite for her personal use, I need to know how  good its Impress component
>>>> is compared to PowerPoint.
>>>>
>>>> She won't need to create very sophisticated slides, and won't need to
>>>> import
>>>> PowerPoint files. It's just to create some presentations for her class. She
>>>> has regular office skills, she's not a geek.
>>>>
>>>> If you have extensive experience with both PowerPoint and Impress, would
>>>> you
>>>> say Impress is good enough or still lacking?
>>>>
>>>> Here's a review:
>>>> "Admittedly, PowerPoint still outperforms Impress, yet not by such an
>>>> extent
>>>> that the difference couldn't be overcome in a release or two. In fact, the
>>>> lack of improvements in Impress over the last few years -- particularly in
>>>> its audio capabilities -- suggests that for most users the deficiencies are
>>>> unimportant."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> www.datamation.com/open-source/libreoffice-vs.-ms-office-spreadsheets-and-slide-shows-1.html
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-01-31 Thread anne-ology
   Huh ???

   I've been impressed with IMPRESS over MsFt's since I found it has
more options, including the ability to save to whatever;
although saving to MsFt's loses some of those options - as
audio additions, and many of IMPRESS' transitional effects are also not
recognized by MsFt ...

   I don't understand the comment re. Android - I've heard the name,
along with these fruit-names, yet have not acquired any of these yet  ;-)



On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> Have you checked your glasses for roses?  That is about the first time i
> have heard anyone saying they thought Impress is actually better in terms
> of functionality.  Especially going back a few years.
>
> I thought a lot of progress had been made over the last year and this new
> remote-control feature if it's on Gnu&Linux and you are using an Android
> all sounds intriguing.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>   --
> *From:* anne-ology 
>
> *To:* Gilles 
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 23:48
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to
> PowerPoint?
>
>   IMPRESS does more, has more options; and has been my favorite for
> years;
>   it also allows for saving to PP, etc. - for those who refuse to
> leave MSFT  ;-)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Gilles  wrote:
>
> Hello
> >
> > Before possibly recommending LibreOffice to a friend who needs an office
> > suite for her personal use, I need to know how  good its Impress
> component
> > is compared to PowerPoint.
> >
> > She won't need to create very sophisticated slides, and won't need to
> > import
> > PowerPoint files. It's just to create some presentations for her class.
> She
> > has regular office skills, she's not a geek.
> >
> > If you have extensive experience with both PowerPoint and Impress, would
> > you
> > say Impress is good enough or still lacking?
> >
> > Here's a review:
> > "Admittedly, PowerPoint still outperforms Impress, yet not by such an
> > extent
> > that the difference couldn't be overcome in a release or two. In fact,
> the
> > lack of improvements in Impress over the last few years -- particularly
> in
> > its audio capabilities -- suggests that for most users the deficiencies
> are
> > unimportant."
> >
> >
> >
> www.datamation.com/open-source/libreoffice-vs.-ms-office-spreadsheets-and-slide-shows-1.html
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Have you checked your glasses for roses?  That is about the first time i have 
heard anyone saying they thought Impress is actually better in terms of 
functionality.  Especially going back a few years.  

I thought a lot of progress had been made over the last year and this new 
remote-control feature if it's on Gnu&Linux and you are using an Android all 
sounds intriguing.  
Regards from
Tom :)  







>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Gilles  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 23:48
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?
> 
>       IMPRESS does more, has more options; and has been my favorite for
>years;
>           it also allows for saving to PP, etc. - for those who refuse to
>leave MSFT  ;-)
>
>
>
>On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Gilles  wrote:
>
>Hello
>>
>> Before possibly recommending LibreOffice to a friend who needs an office
>> suite for her personal use, I need to know how  good its Impress component
>> is compared to PowerPoint.
>>
>> She won't need to create very sophisticated slides, and won't need to
>> import
>> PowerPoint files. It's just to create some presentations for her class. She
>> has regular office skills, she's not a geek.
>>
>> If you have extensive experience with both PowerPoint and Impress, would
>> you
>> say Impress is good enough or still lacking?
>>
>> Here's a review:
>> "Admittedly, PowerPoint still outperforms Impress, yet not by such an
>> extent
>> that the difference couldn't be overcome in a release or two. In fact, the
>> lack of improvements in Impress over the last few years -- particularly in
>> its audio capabilities -- suggests that for most users the deficiencies are
>> unimportant."
>>
>>
>> www.datamation.com/open-source/libreoffice-vs.-ms-office-spreadsheets-and-slide-shows-1.html
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-01-30 Thread anne-ology
   IMPRESS does more, has more options; and has been my favorite for
years;
   it also allows for saving to PP, etc. - for those who refuse to
leave MSFT  ;-)



On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Gilles  wrote:

Hello
>
> Before possibly recommending LibreOffice to a friend who needs an office
> suite for her personal use, I need to know how  good its Impress component
> is compared to PowerPoint.
>
> She won't need to create very sophisticated slides, and won't need to
> import
> PowerPoint files. It's just to create some presentations for her class. She
> has regular office skills, she's not a geek.
>
> If you have extensive experience with both PowerPoint and Impress, would
> you
> say Impress is good enough or still lacking?
>
> Here's a review:
> "Admittedly, PowerPoint still outperforms Impress, yet not by such an
> extent
> that the difference couldn't be overcome in a release or two. In fact, the
> lack of improvements in Impress over the last few years -- particularly in
> its audio capabilities -- suggests that for most users the deficiencies are
> unimportant."
>
>
> www.datamation.com/open-source/libreoffice-vs.-ms-office-spreadsheets-and-slide-shows-1.html
>
> Thank you.
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-01-30 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
PowerPoint is slightly in the lead imo (and from posts on the lists) but only 
by about £10-£20 worth.  Impress is developing faster so that slight edge may 
not last for long.  There are shed loads of other programs for producing 
slideshows and many are free
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentation_software

The basic concept is flawed.  Like playing a video it tends to put quite a lot 
of the audience to sleep or into zombie-like, tele-watching mode.  
Bullet-pointed assertions at best just serve to stop people thinking hard about 
the subject and neatly avoid any of the detail, "the devil is in the detail".  
Apparently the military like them for press briefings because it's style over 
content so it helps them minimise how much they tell.  On the other hand it 
seems many dislike them in mission briefings because they obscure the depth of 
information required for success.  

Flip charts are more effective at engaging the audience and getting them 
thinking.  Interactive.  

If you have a good presentation on Impress/PowerPoint/whatever then why would 
it need you?  Just upload it to YouTube.  

At events i tend to have a slideshow going on in the background in the lobby or 
in the bar.  Sometimes parts of it catch people's attention enough to help 
boost their conversation, or to distract them from going tooo far off-topic.  
But i don't use anything fancy, just a normal photo-viewer.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Gilles 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 22:32
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?
> 
>Hello
>
>Before possibly recommending LibreOffice to a friend who needs an office
>suite for her personal use, I need to know how  good its Impress component
>is compared to PowerPoint.
>
>She won't need to create very sophisticated slides, and won't need to import
>PowerPoint files. It's just to create some presentations for her class. She
>has regular office skills, she's not a geek.
>
>If you have extensive experience with both PowerPoint and Impress, would you
>say Impress is good enough or still lacking?
>
>Here's a review:
>"Admittedly, PowerPoint still outperforms Impress, yet not by such an extent
>that the difference couldn't be overcome in a release or two. In fact, the
>lack of improvements in Impress over the last few years -- particularly in
>its audio capabilities -- suggests that for most users the deficiencies are
>unimportant."
>
>www.datamation.com/open-source/libreoffice-vs.-ms-office-spreadsheets-and-slide-shows-1.html
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How good is Impress compared to PowerPoint?

2013-01-30 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Gilles  wrote:
> Hello
>
> Before possibly recommending LibreOffice to a friend who needs an office
> suite for her personal use, I need to know how  good its Impress component
> is compared to PowerPoint.
>
> She won't need to create very sophisticated slides, and won't need to import
> PowerPoint files. It's just to create some presentations for her class. She
> has regular office skills, she's not a geek.
>
> If you have extensive experience with both PowerPoint and Impress, would you
> say Impress is good enough or still lacking?
>
> Here's a review:
> "Admittedly, PowerPoint still outperforms Impress, yet not by such an extent
> that the difference couldn't be overcome in a release or two. In fact, the
> lack of improvements in Impress over the last few years -- particularly in
> its audio capabilities -- suggests that for most users the deficiencies are
> unimportant."
>
> www.datamation.com/open-source/libreoffice-vs.-ms-office-spreadsheets-and-slide-shows-1.html
>

Impress can do an excellent job. If you want to help your friend, it
is good to teach on how to prepare a presentation, how to break down
the information so that they are put on slides. This is something
people are not being taught and end up with those boring Powerpoints.

With Impress, if you set up the projector to be an extended display
(to your laptop), then you can view the current slide on the
projector, and on the laptop it will show you the current slide + the
next slide. Also can show the time.

Simos

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