Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You are not yet thinking in the LO way.  The modules/apps (such as Writer, 
Calc, Draw) are not separate programs in the way you seem to be trying to use 
them.  This is very different from MS Office.  With MSO if you open 2 of the 
apps then you pretty much double the amount of space taken up in Ram and double 
the resources used.  

Why not just create the page-breaks in Draw?  Even if you do get the Pdf into 
Writer and save as an Odt rather than an Odg it still doesn't become any more 
editable than it is as an Odg.  Pdf is made to be uneditable.  That is part of 
it's aim.  It's because it is uneditable that it appears the same on every 
machine or printer in any OS or program that displays Pdf, or at least that's 
the aim.  

You might find it helpful to skim quickly through the Getting Started Guide 
and see if soem things in there catch your eye
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013, 3:54
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer
 

I had a one page PDF file that I wanted to break into multiple pages. Opening
the PDF with LO resulted in LO Draw opening with the file nicely displayed. I
saved it as a draw image (odg) and then expected to be able to directly
import it to Writer. Unfortunately I could find no way to do that. Even using
copy/paste resulted in a black page since the image was larger than one page.
My hope was to have it come in and naturally break into multiple pages. As a
last resort I selected a portion of the image in Draw , copy/pasted it into
Writer, inserted a page break then repeated the action on multiple pages
until the entire image was in Writer. It seems as if there must be a more
elegant way to do this. I have never used Draw before so I'm just trying to
figure out the details. To be useful it seems as if there must be an easy way
to move from Draw into Writer or Calc. Can someone help me see what I'm
missing?  Thanks.

Cliff


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer

2013-07-21 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Sun, 21 Jul
2013 11:21:58 +0100 (BST)

Hi Tom,

I appreciate your thoughts. I'm sure I don't understand all the integration
of the modules. I don't have an internet connection right now so can't look
at the suggested resource, but will when I can.

Using the LO help file and trying all the menu options I can find I don't see
any way to put page breaks in a draw image. I can select different parts of
the image, but I see nothing regarding page breaks and the cursor will not
stop anywhere alongside the image to allow one to select a page break even if
there was an menu item for it as there is in Writer. Could you explain in
more detail how I would go about doing this? The best I could get from the
Help was to do it as I did with selecting portions and copy/paste into Writer.

Cliff

 Hi :)
 You are not yet thinking in the LO way.  The modules/apps (such as Writer,
 Calc, Draw) are not separate programs in the way you seem to be trying to use
 them.  This is very different from MS Office.  With MSO if you open 2 of the
 apps then you pretty much double the amount of space taken up in Ram and
 double the resources used.  
 
 Why not just create the page-breaks in Draw?  Even if you do get the Pdf into
 Writer and save as an Odt rather than an Odg it still doesn't become any more
 editable than it is as an Odg.  Pdf is made to be uneditable.  That is part
 of it's aim.  It's because it is uneditable that it appears the same on every
 machine or printer in any OS or program that displays Pdf, or at least that's
 the aim.  
 
 You might find it helpful to skim quickly through the Getting Started Guide
 and see if some things in there catch your eye
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
 Regards from 
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013, 3:54
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer
  
 
 I had a one page PDF file that I wanted to break into multiple pages. Opening
 the PDF with LO resulted in LO Draw opening with the file nicely displayed. I
 saved it as a draw image (odg) and then expected to be able to directly
 import it to Writer. Unfortunately I could find no way to do that. Even using
 copy/paste resulted in a black page since the image was larger than one page.
 My hope was to have it come in and naturally break into multiple pages. As a
 last resort I selected a portion of the image in Draw , copy/pasted it into
 Writer, inserted a page break then repeated the action on multiple pages
 until the entire image was in Writer. It seems as if there must be a more
 elegant way to do this. I have never used Draw before so I'm just trying to
 figure out the details. To be useful it seems as if there must be an easy way
 to move from Draw into Writer or Calc. Can someone help me see what I'm
 missing?  Thanks.
 
 Cliff

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sorry chap!  I was thinking that you could get the cursor beside the image in a 
page and then press 
Ctrl Enter
or from the menus do 
Insert - errr, Slide (surely that should be page as in Writer rather than 
slide as in Impress?)

When the cursor is beside a whole-page image it is not the tiny small thing it 
usually is but instead takes up the whole vertical height of the image.  

I'm actually coming around to thinking that you might have had the best method 
after all!
Apols and regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 22 July 2013, 0:43
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer
 

** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Sun, 21 Jul
2013 11:21:58 +0100 (BST)

Hi Tom,

I appreciate your thoughts. I'm sure I don't understand all the integration
of the modules. I don't have an internet connection right now so can't look
at the suggested resource, but will when I can.

Using the LO help file and trying all the menu options I can find I don't see
any way to put page breaks in a draw image. I can select different parts of
the image, but I see nothing regarding page breaks and the cursor will not
stop anywhere alongside the image to allow one to select a page break even if
there was an menu item for it as there is in Writer. Could you explain in
more detail how I would go about doing this? The best I could get from the
Help was to do it as I did with selecting portions and copy/paste into Writer.

Cliff

 Hi :)
 You are not yet thinking in the LO way.  The modules/apps (such as Writer,
 Calc, Draw) are not separate programs in the way you seem to be trying to use
 them.  This is very different from MS Office.  With MSO if you open 2 of the
 apps then you pretty much double the amount of space taken up in Ram and
 double the resources used.  
 
 Why not just create the page-breaks in Draw?  Even if you do get the Pdf into
 Writer and save as an Odt rather than an Odg it still doesn't become any more
 editable than it is as an Odg.  Pdf is made to be uneditable.  That is part
 of it's aim.  It's because it is uneditable that it appears the same on every
 machine or printer in any OS or program that displays Pdf, or at least that's
 the aim.  
 
 You might find it helpful to skim quickly through the Getting Started Guide
 and see if some things in there catch your eye
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
 Regards from 
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013, 3:54
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer
  
 
 I had a one page PDF file that I wanted to break into multiple pages. 
 Opening
 the PDF with LO resulted in LO Draw opening with the file nicely displayed. 
 I
 saved it as a draw image (odg) and then expected to be able to directly
 import it to Writer. Unfortunately I could find no way to do that. Even 
 using
 copy/paste resulted in a black page since the image was larger than one 
 page.
 My hope was to have it come in and naturally break into multiple pages. As a
 last resort I selected a portion of the image in Draw , copy/pasted it into
 Writer, inserted a page break then repeated the action on multiple pages
 until the entire image was in Writer. It seems as if there must be a more
 elegant way to do this. I have never used Draw before so I'm just trying to
 figure out the details. To be useful it seems as if there must be an easy 
 way
 to move from Draw into Writer or Calc. Can someone help me see what I'm
 missing?  Thanks.
 
 Cliff

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